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« Reply #75 on: May 19, 2016, 06:34:33 PM » |
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I agree, we have to rely on guesswork! I never wanted in, I can't see it's done a lot of good (I'm not going to preach about the whys and wherefores) so I shall vote out. Seems to me it's as good as any other way of deciding.
And everyone else's way of deciding is just as valid too - THAT's democracy!
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« Reply #76 on: May 19, 2016, 07:28:54 PM » |
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That's a bugger about your heart Stinkey - can they fix it or treat it? Spose you won't know that till you see the man, keeping 'em crossed for you!
it's a problem iv had all my life BG..knew I'd need an OP eventually ? Just one of several health issues iv got..thanks for your concern x Politicians I don't trust them but don't lose sleep over anything they do/say ? Politics the same thing..I'm to laid back to worry about just about everything now, when I think of all the people who've been on this planet before me..they all had dreams/aspirations/worries/problems etc..and guess what they lived and they died ? Another generation came along and had the same stuff in their lives ? On and on it goes...we as a species will most likely die off through WAR/decease /disaster and the planet will carry on ..I cannot do anything about immigration/terrorism/taxes/global warming..but I can enjoy some of mans modern technology /comforts while I'm on this earth and will tinker in my workshop as long as possible..and on the 24th of June I'm sure all of us here will be fine come what may the day before ? |
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« Reply #77 on: May 19, 2016, 09:29:59 PM » |
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That's more or less what I say to Mike - he's addicted to watching the news on TV - I tell him it won't make any difference whether he watches it or not!
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« Reply #78 on: May 19, 2016, 09:59:15 PM » |
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Interesting programme on BBC earlier. Jeremy Paxman looking at the EU. Lots of rolling of eyes from him. Looked at the history of the EEC, Maastricht Treaty and its development since. If you can get it on iplayer or by other means it is worth watching. It surprised me how it was leaning towards leaving and on the BBC too! There is a lot of info on the EU referendum on the Open University website. I haven't read it yet but I would imagine it will be fairly balanced. I hope.  http://www.open.edu/openlearn/people-politics-law/so-what-eu-referendum-everybody-talking-abouthttp://www.open.edu/openlearn/people-politics-law/the-uks-eu-referendum-or-outJJ  |
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« Reply #79 on: May 19, 2016, 10:32:39 PM » |
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Definately worth watching. I think that it was the most informative, unbiased programme on the facts about the EU that has been on the television or in the newspapers. Good on you Paxo |
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« Reply #81 on: May 21, 2016, 12:30:33 AM » |
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Cheers Hunter. That was interesting. Trouble was I then went down the rabbit hole with lots of other EU related videos including an interesting one on the European Stability Mechanism or ESM. At the moment I don't think the UK is part of it but that could easily change. Got to watch a few debates too which included Nigel Farage and Dan Hannon. Both spoke very well. Informed and passionate. One of these was organised by the Spectator. Quite a long video but at the end the audience voted. Still a fair few who were undecided but the Leaves won the vote and the audience sounded fairly young. Many Swedes are not happy with the EU and I think they are hoping the UK will lead the way so others can follow and exit the EU. In the Paxman programme I mentioned in another post, it turns out the EU has built an EU Museum/Expo so people can go along and learn all about the EU. That building cost £100 million. That's on top of all the other buildings in Brussels and Strasbourg that the EU and all its components work from. You couldn't make it up!  |
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« Reply #82 on: May 21, 2016, 10:21:34 AM » |
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And the auditors haven't signed off the accounts for about 12 years or something like that - any business wouldn't be allowed to keep trading!
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« Reply #83 on: May 21, 2016, 07:48:41 PM » |
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« Reply #84 on: May 21, 2016, 07:54:20 PM » |
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I just sat and watched the full Brexit film..learnt a few new things ?
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« Reply #85 on: May 21, 2016, 11:12:02 PM » |
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Cor, it's surprising what you find when you go looking. Directly from the EU so no slant from the Leave side. It's called the The Five Presidents' Report: Completing Europe's Economic and Monetary Union. This link takes you to a pdf file. The contents page alone is worth reading. I tried to copy just that for you but with my software it wasn't allowed. Their press release at the time can be found at: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-15-5240_en.htm It looks like the above web page is using fixed frames which might make it difficult to read. There is a pdf file accessible for that as well. The actual report pdf file: https://ec.europa.eu/priorities/sites/beta-political/files/5-presidents-report_en.pdf |
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« Reply #86 on: May 22, 2016, 04:16:41 PM » |
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I've decided I really can't be bothered to read any more stuff. Most of what I've read is lies and scaremongering - from both sides!
I know which way I'm voting and I'm not going to think about it any more.
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« Reply #87 on: May 22, 2016, 06:43:49 PM » |
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« Reply #89 on: May 22, 2016, 08:17:42 PM » |
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If you like - although if I could be sure that ANY of what's being said was a fact, I might listen......... |
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