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It will make ecu makers install a 2 map system - mot and performance, some do allready.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2018, 10:42:37 PM » |
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Hi All.
I have put the Ford V6 build on the back burner, and am going to finish a rear engined trike. I am wondering if a modern engine will be able to be used in a new build? Are the rules going to even themselves out, or is it cut and dried?
It's annoying as I was thinking about rebuilding a Reliant lump to sell with the rest of the bits I have spare as well.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2018, 10:54:18 PM » |
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As far as I know, there's a consultation period at the moment, but it's very short -something like 28 days. As Kapri said elsewhere, that's not even enough time for everyone affected by it to discover the proposals exist, let alone oppose them. "More a statement of intent than consultation" he said.
I haven't heard any mention of trikes or bikes, but presumably trikes would be treated the same as cars?
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2018, 09:29:31 AM » |
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Just for info The title of Section 4 is “Proposed changes to emissions standards for new vehicles using national schemes” is part of the document “Road vehicles - Improving air quality and safety”. The section talked about in this post is on page 16, entitled Kit Cars, and consists of 4.10, 4.11, 4.12 and 4.13. Link to the uk Gov website and the document (pdf) https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/678209/road-vehicles-improving-air-quality-and-safety.pdf |
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2018, 08:14:49 PM » |
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But generally, requirements for trikes are allong the lines of bikes - aren't they? Certainly that's how I saw the sva requirements?
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2018, 10:11:02 PM » |
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I'd assume something along the lines of a standard Reliant would be treated more like a car than a bike?
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2018, 09:56:07 AM » |
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2018, 02:01:05 PM » |
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I had this conversation with BayChimp yesterday Kev -he's wondering whether his Reliant trike is now worth finishing -?
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2018, 08:00:28 PM » |
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Do I carry on with mine ? My sons sold his this week ?
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2018, 08:43:33 PM » |
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Good question Steve.
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2018, 09:49:40 PM » |
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I dragged out the Nissan Micra engine and box which I have had in the garden for a few years, with an idea of building the frame I have around it instead, and getting a 1.3 lump later on. They are very cheap at the moment. I am hoping that using a lump with all the gear on will get around the new ruling, but it still won't look the same as a Ford V6.   |
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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2018, 10:25:45 PM » |
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Or-  More bad news for modified vehicles |
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2018, 11:48:35 PM » |
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I'd be very interested to see a fully eco friendly, ECU'd, CATT'd low emission custom of any wheel configuration. I wonder what the best current vehicle would be to use as a donor? Who's going to build the first electric trike, bike or hotrod?
We're all trying to build with big, musclebound engines, but the whole point of modifying to begin with was simply to make the thing quicker wasn't it? My little modern commuter car's probably quicker than the 3 1/2 litre V8 in my truck. Perhaps we just need to start thinking a bit more outside the box?
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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2018, 02:05:44 AM » |
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If it was going in the front, it would need a five speed box. If so I am looking at a Bedford Rascal/Suzuki Carry gearbox, and if doing that I/we might as well look for a Suzuki Jimny/Carry 1.3 lump and box. I would even be tempted to keep the box and run a shaft off the side, but then there would be two diff's to drive through.
If going in the back, any size of modern front wheel drive engine and drivetrain will go in there. I looked at a Micra because it was here, but on nosing through Gumtree I saw a 1.3 auto micra with 60,000 miles for 200 quid.
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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2018, 10:55:01 PM » |
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If you want power, with low emissions, stick a turbo on it! Plus of course the injectors, cat and dual map ecu to get it through the test.
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