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Author Topic: Reliant Rialto Trike - Near Completion - Advise Required  (Read 13190 times)
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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2012, 11:10:39 AM »

I think if the worst happens they just tell you to MSVA it don't they? If it is well built and everything working okay it will only be a problem if it gets pulled by VOSA won't it?

The whole modified vehicle area seems a bit grey to me.

I know it isn't right for people to sell these on as correct but there must be lots that were built years ago where the builder just sent off docs as rebodied. I was always a bit concerned because my V5 said Jawa ans a tricycle, Jawa newer did a trike and it doesnt say anything about it being a kit/special just normal V5. I know it has been on the road as a trike for over 15 years though but it doesn't have a Q plate.

What if someone put a bolt on conversion onto a bike, isn't it only a inspection that is a quick look over? If you then decided to change it from being a bolt on to a rigid/IRS whatever, how would any new owners know if it was correct or not, is there something on the log book to say?

Even with a Q plate you can change things and people wouldnt know unless you told them. I don't think anyone can be certain unless they either do it themselves or have full build pictures and documentation with anything they buy.

Welcome to the forum Dan Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2012, 11:43:38 AM »

looks tidy, and Im not a fan of car engined trikes

not being too rude but what sort of money did you pay for it?


also as the others have said, double check that V5C etc, tricycle class on there doesnt mean its all good

basically the frame number should start with SABTV in my experience even when converting trikes years back they always issued a new VIN

bung up the Reg number and I see what I can find for you
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« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2012, 04:29:37 PM »

the worst is if vosa pull you over and impound it,(if its on a rat plate) which they can, the mot is invalid and so is the insurance,
vosa treats em as a rung vehicle,
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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2012, 04:50:17 PM »

I thought vosa makes you either msva them or take them off the road ?
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« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2012, 05:00:16 PM »

I thought vosa makes you either msva them or take them off the road ?

they do but if the catch you again it might get taken off you too
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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2012, 10:25:06 PM »

Hey guys,
Thanks for all the advise,going to have a hunt around the frame for correct markings to see if been mava'd but very doubtful!
No big deal I suppose just have to get it msva'd and re-reg'd.
Not in the least bit impressed with the seller who said everything was a ok on it
Wonder if I'll bump into him at a rally haha!!
Does anyone know the nearest place to get msva,in Middlesbrough or nearest
Thanks again think i could do with all your help over the next few weeks!
Danny
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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2012, 03:23:08 PM »

there is a place at beverley dont know if there is anywhere closer
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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2012, 04:29:23 PM »


Not in the least bit impressed with the seller who said everything was a ok on it
Wonder if I'll bump into him at a rally haha!!


i saw yours on ebay, i mailed him to ask about the msva, no reply, so he knew
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« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2012, 11:02:57 PM »

There is an msva at Gosforth but id use Beverly as thy seem more clued up on trikes THAT'S WERE ONE OF MY MATES IS ON THE 28TH WITH HIS FORD BASED TRIKE
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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2012, 11:50:23 AM »

Hi again all!
Once again thanks for all the hints and tips regarding MOT,MSVA etc etc.
Just been looking through the paperwork, it was MOT'd as a trike and also taxed as one, does this mean that it doesnt then need MSVA, surely the previous owner coudl'nt have gotten an MOT without MSVA
It a K reg, but not sure which year it was 'triked'
It does have a frame number stamped on the frame, starting SBC I believe (Currently at work so cant quite remember the full thing)
Again any help would be good
I've already printed out MSVA guide and started on working through it though just in case
Another though is, if someone will MOT it and it's tax'd, how am I to know it had to go through MSVA Mr Police Officer, as far as im concerned i bought a trike, mot'd and tax'd, and im insured  Wink..... just a thought
Thanks Cheesy!
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« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2012, 11:54:30 AM »

well the MOT test doesnt matter what it is, the tester just tests what he is presented with

the woman in the post office just sells you a tax disc based on the info presented to her

the simplest thing to ask is what does the V5C say under the sections manufacturer and model, also bodytype

registered properly it should have had an MSVA and thus the VIN would normally start SABTV, and would have a Q plate

whats the reg number and I will tell you 99% whats the score with it
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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2012, 12:05:15 PM »

The V5c says its a Reliant Rialto
Class : Tricycle
Dont know the reg no and am currently at work but will PM to you later on
i still think it will need to be msva'd anyway and want to do the right thing, just going to take a year to read the msva manual let alone the mods i'll need to make lol!
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« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2012, 12:10:30 PM »

ok so V5 says reliant Rialto

simples question

is it a reliant Rialto?

just print off the relevant MSVA parts, its actually a very very simple test, break it down into parts and work one bit at a time, done 2 now and only thing you should possibly have trouble with is sound level, but with a reliant engine its probably easier, I always done bike engines

the manual is gospel, if it says you can or cant do something then thats it, if its not mentioned then its fine, common sense is all you need.

heres a laugh for you, you can pass the MSVA with bald tyres, and no mudguards, so long as tyres are of the right speed rating

you can pass the MOT with no mudguards

but you cant take it on the road like that as its illegal LOL

MSVA test is £104, add on £55 I think it was for registration, and £40.70 for 6 months tax

but then you got no MOT for 3 years as its classed as a new registered vehicle
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« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2012, 12:18:29 PM »

Yes the engine is a reliant rialto, as is the gearbox, exhaust system, axle, all off the same vehicle
Harley front end, and just your bog standard trike frame.
I'll have a full skeg over the MSVA manual and just use my bonce abit, thanks for the help once again Cheesy!
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« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2012, 12:26:16 PM »

the identity remains with the chassis/frame, make any structural alterations and its time to re reg, and I think that throwing it away and building a completely new one from tube counts as a modification LOL

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