TIG WELDING DAMAGED ENGINE?? PROBABLY NOT!!!

[darklancer]

hi Terry
They took the work on because when I first spoke to them, on the basis of the info I had there only seemed to be some "bike" work to do, being a check of the engine (as she had been sitting for close to 3 years in a garage after the owner had died) and changing the rear brake from right to left leg ( I am a right leg amputee). Given that she was (so I had been told) so close to completion I took this info at face value. The crux of my issue is that as there were adaptations needed for me to ride her, the only people to ride her were the people from the bike shop and she was test ridden a number of times by them including 2 attempts to get her to MOT, the second attempt ending in the engine blowing. My view is that as they are (apparently) bike experts and have "experience" in Glodwings they should have damn well known that the engine was over-rev'ing but if they did they did NOT tell me, if they had I would have asked "why?" and done something to get it checked! The first time the over-rev'ing at low speed was mentioned was by Bruce from BB customs as per my post above, and this was after a visual check of her and THIS is the issue; THEY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED IT TO ME BUT THEY DIDNT! So, they are either stupid OR incompetent OR just didnt care but either way I am NOT happy! The shop owner was happy for her to go to Bruce for completion when it became apparent that there was some "trike" work to do and they dont have the experience to do it. You should understand that my trike was with them for nearly 9 months and she was tested a number of times so its not as if there wasnt enough time for someone to think "this trike revs high at low speed"! Its pretty basic to my mind!

[darklancer]

And yes Terry, you can see into the block!

[steven brock]

Tricky that I'd say they are covered with liability insurance if you want to go the full hog!

[darklancer]

What I want Steven is an admittance that they stuffed up and (at least) a contribution to the cost of the replacement engine AND cost of having the work to have the old one taken out and the replacement mounted, if I got that I would be prepared to call it quits. It really depends on the reaction I get from the owner of the bike shop, I have spoken with a solicitor who views that the case really centres around the fact that IF they know Goldwings as well as they profess (and I saw a couple there for work and/or servicing during the time my Trike was there) they should have known the engine and therefore even though its a trike, they should have realised something was wrong AND mentioned same to me; apparently it comes down to "due care". I dont actually want to go down the legal route though, life is too short so its really going to come down to the reaction from the owner when I speak to him which will be next week, I will let the forum know the outcome!   

[tbone]

I know bugger all about motorbike engines but shouldnt you first determine what caused the holes in the block?
Did you brief the garage on the fact that the trike had been stood for at least 3 years without being looked at?
Did you yourself check on the level or state of the oil? Did you ask the garage to do so, or was it merely the modifications that were discussed?
Engines are designed to rev, whether or not there is a load attached, this will not have blown just because of high revving, it may have contributed but other factors will be involved and i dont mean the axle.
The garage informed you that they knew nothing about trikes, maybe they assumed that the engine was supposed to rev high when converted to a trike?

 

[morrag]

As I have already stated, I'm with Mr. T, and I really don't think you will get too far with this one, unless the garage owner is something of a philanthopist!! Morrag

[Cabman77]

As I have already stated, I'm with Mr. T, and I really don't think you will get too far with this one, unless the garage owner is something of a philanthopist!! Morrag

or you and a few friends are built like brick s**thouses and have no moral compunction about doing physical harm 

[morrag]

Hey, c'mon Cab I assume your joking, for if not that's a sad statement!! really, as I'm sure you are aware, violence of that type solves nothing......................

[Cabman77]

Sorry Morrag, I thought the smiley faces might have given it away 

Although I can think of certain occasions where it would be impossible to stop me following a course of action such as this and they all involve my family and their welfare and I don`t think many would disagree with me on that.

[morrag]

My apologies Cab, I should have looked a little closer!, the reaction of an old pacifist, y'know flowers and a "splif" man, make peace not..........sure you get my drift .....Morrag

[steven brock]

Yes, thrash them with a bunch of flowers that'll do it... Fingers crossed they pollen sufferers ..

[zakboy]

COUNT YOUR LOSSES...... REPAIRE REBUILD

[nabsim]

If you aren't certain the engine was okay before you bought it everything else is guesswork anyway. Like you say, life's too short and you haven't got a good case. Don't use them again