WAYNE999
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« on: November 13, 2011, 07:34:37 PM » |
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I've just bought a very pretty 1978 Honda CG125.It was running when I said I'd have it but I went to pick it up and it wouldn't start. Very quickly found the fault to be a knackered spark plug (no spark with the original plug spark with a different plug). So yesterday changed spark plug 2 kicks it started ran for a couple of minutes then I switched it off. This morning it started first kick I thought all was well ran it for 5 minutes then turned it off This afternoon tried to start it nothing took the plug out no spark used a different plug got a spark cleaned the plug up but then it was sparking all over the place has any one any ideas could it be the condenser that's at fault?
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 07:52:19 PM » |
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doesnt sound like a condensor fault could be coil,, what colour is the spark when you have one  what gap have you got  ?? how are you ,cleaning, the plugs some wire bruhses leave metallic residue on the ,pot, in the plug causing the to short or ,fizz, also some plug blasters do the same..
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 07:56:18 PM » |
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i was about to say coil as well .
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 07:58:00 PM » |
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great ------ NO old minds think alike 
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 08:20:18 PM » |
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less of the old!
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 08:52:51 PM » |
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WAYNE999
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 08:56:29 PM » |
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doesnt sound like a condensor fault could be coil,, what colour is the spark when you have one  what gap have you got  ?? how are you ,cleaning, the plugs some wire bruhses leave metallic residue on the ,pot, in the plug causing the to short or ,fizz, also some plug blasters do the same.. the spark is a yellowy orange colour hope this helps
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WAYNE999
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 08:58:57 PM » |
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I've never heard of an ignitor where would I find it?
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 09:02:41 PM » |
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somewhere under the seat, black plastic unit. Should have two sets of leads plugging into it but as it`s a single it may only have the one plug. There is nothing you can do with them, but if you can borrow one to try it may give you an answer to the problem. One thing, if you`ve got points you won`t have an ignitor, but I`m almost certain the CG models all had them.
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 09:14:17 PM » |
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somewhere under the seat, black plastic unit. Should have two sets of leads plugging into it but as it`s a single it may only have the one plug. There is nothing you can do with them, but if you can borrow one to try it may give you an answer to the problem. One thing, if you`ve got points you won`t have an ignitor, but I`m almost certain the CG models all had them.
Its a contacter points model phew!!!! thats one thing less to worry about.Thinking about ignition service points,condenser,coil,ht lead,suppressor cap and plug just be nice to know which bit's buggered
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 09:29:54 PM » |
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somewhere under the seat, black plastic unit. Should have two sets of leads plugging into it but as it`s a single it may only have the one plug. There is nothing you can do with them, but if you can borrow one to try it may give you an answer to the problem. One thing, if you`ve got points you won`t have an ignitor, but I`m almost certain the CG models all had them.
Its a contacter points model phew!!!! thats one thing less to worry about.Thinking about ignition service points,condenser,coil,ht lead,suppressor cap and plug just be nice to know which bit's buggered suppressor type plug cap  take it off strip back half inch of bare wire and connect straight to a clean plug and see what colour spark you have now it should be clan brigh blue sort of sharp lookin also give the points a good clean and regap them at around 12 to 16 thou ,if i remember right ,, and see what youve got
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Wot ho chaps, its bloody Whitworth!!
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2011, 01:57:11 PM » |
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Those early CG's had a metal shrouded suppressor/plug cap which were forever causing intermittent spark problems. If it still has the metal cap you can peel the metal shroud off with some snipe nosed pliers.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 01:48:03 PM » |
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I remember one Yam I had always had to have new plugs. Wouldn't run on cleaned plugs, dont ask me why or how it knew the difference. Had loads of stick of a mate who kept trying to tell me they could be temramental and had to have new plugs. Was most annoying when that fixed it 
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 03:37:01 PM » |
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I used to burn the muck off my Yam stroker plug by holding it over the gas flame as just brushing didn't do the trick.
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2011, 09:57:09 PM » |
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thought to myself f*** it if i change everything i cant be wrong so new plug,cap,ht lead,coil and condensor been running daily for a fortnight with no problems
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