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« Reply #585 on: July 25, 2012, 04:43:47 PM » |
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I can under stand why folk would think that the swing arm would kind of articulate Pete, but using them in this application they don't they stay straight
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« Reply #586 on: July 25, 2012, 10:37:14 PM » |
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I tend to favour your view of Rose joints in this situation Pete,and because of the very limited amount of angular movement at the pivot point, I prefer to use "Metalastic" or similar, bushes,Transit void bushes being a usefull and available size,the rest of the unit is pretty standard fare,and fine, Morrag
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« Reply #587 on: July 26, 2012, 03:58:28 AM » |
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I'm sorry i must have miss under stood Pete's concerns i thought his concerns with rose joints was to much movement at the swingarm, I'm sure void bushes are used but there not for me they do have disadvantages used in there normal application so it would personally leave me to pause for concern to using them my self, most void bushes i have come across don't appear to have a bigger center hole of more than 12mm...12mm bolt at the main mounting point of the swingarm  mm i don't know, again not for me i don't think i would be happy to risk my a** on 12mm. Disadvantages void bushes in normal application Rubber bushings can deteriorate quickly in the presence of oils (e.g., motor oil, mineral oil) and extreme heat and cold. The flexibility of rubber also introduces an element of play in the suspension system. This may result in camber, caster, or toe changes in the wheels of the vehicle during high-load conditions (cornering and braking), adversely affecting the vehicle's handling. disadvantage of rose joints please let me know......... seriously  |
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« Reply #588 on: July 26, 2012, 10:03:04 AM » |
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been into dvla this morning with paper work for the xv, got to go back at 2.20 for inspection...very quick
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« Reply #589 on: July 26, 2012, 10:17:21 AM » |
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blinkin heck,thats quick zakboy,and on the subject of rose joints,i use them and can,t fault them,no unwanted movement and hard wearing,just my personal opinion.
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« Reply #590 on: July 26, 2012, 02:59:02 PM » |
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rose joints have been used in heavy industry for years, getting far more abuse than you will give em, good things, and can be bought in sizes from a few mm to over 100 mm holes
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« Reply #591 on: July 26, 2012, 03:19:33 PM » |
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I have no problem with rose joints as such......
but imagine one bolted to a clockface (instead of the hands),
stand in front of clock and you can rotate the joint around the 360deg, but I'm sure it can also be pulled towards you and pushed away from you. Or am I wrong??
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« Reply #592 on: July 26, 2012, 04:15:31 PM » |
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yes you are right Pete, but when you use them as i have for my swingarm one at the end of each main rails because the other end of each rail is bolted solid to the axle and there are two brace bars across the swing arm one front and one rear joining them together, then with the bolts though the rose joints at the pivot come mounting points tightend up they don't move from side to side...... trust me they don't do what you first think and imagine they will do, i also put a locking nut on to stop any slight camber not that a bit of camber dose any arm...... even if you put misalignment spacer beetween the rose joints witch are designed to make rose joints turn at a bigger angle they will still stay straight and not move |
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« Reply #593 on: July 26, 2012, 04:19:27 PM » |
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blinkin heck,thats quick zakboy,and on the subject of rose joints,i use them and can,t fault them,no unwanted movement and hard wearing,just my personal opinion.
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« Reply #594 on: July 26, 2012, 04:38:12 PM » |
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well thats the inspection done and dusted and and the vx is now legal.... its not even finished yet i was told by the dvla inspecter and two other members of dvla staff while at dvla today that all local dvla local offices will be closed by.... two of the staff said march 2013 and the inspecter said the cut of date is december 2013
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« Reply #595 on: July 26, 2012, 04:45:59 PM » |
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Congrats. That seemed painless
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« Reply #596 on: July 26, 2012, 05:14:20 PM » |
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Congrats. That seemed painless
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« Reply #597 on: July 26, 2012, 06:27:31 PM » |
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Wow talk about fast build and legal
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« Reply #598 on: July 26, 2012, 07:08:53 PM » |
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Nice one Kev,
you done another real sweet job on that Virago buddy.
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« Reply #599 on: July 27, 2012, 02:24:07 AM » |
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Wow talk about fast build and legal
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