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Author Topic: electric fan/switch on reliant 850 engine  (Read 15762 times)
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« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2012, 06:53:41 PM »

Yeah, thats my point.
Once its open it can do nop nore, so if the water returning from the rad is the temperature that the stat allows out, as the fan is not coming on till then, wont the engine temp rise further ?
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« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2012, 09:47:40 PM »

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Originally posted by andyrennison  ;
Once its open it can do nop nore,

Correct  Smiley

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so if the water returning from the rad is the temperature that the stat allows out,

Reliant vehicles normally run best with an 88 degree thermostat and as OAB SAYS  
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The purpose of the wax stat is to allow the engine to get to an optimal working temperature before allowing the coolant to go to the rad to cool down.
The water from the open stat will be a minimum of 88 degrees when it flows from the head to the TOP of the rad .
It then drops /is sucked downwards through the rad getting cooled on the way down by the mechanical fan and the air coming in through the front of the car to the front of the rad when the vehicle is moving
The temperature in the engine bay on the 3 wheelers is quite high and with the mechanical fan on all the time this is normally enough to stop overheating when the vehicle is stationary for long periods of time in traffic jams .
Note that all Reliant engines should be run with antifreeze at the correct mix all year round { Not called Summer Coolant for nothing  Smiley}.
The water going back into the engine via the bottom hose is cooler than that going in at the top .

On an open trike you have a slightly different scenario .
{ 1 } You do not have the engine enclosed in a fibreglass box therefore , when moving , you get some air cooling on the engine as well as via the rad
{ 2 } For cosmetic { Not wanting to have to build a guard round the fan so that unattended morons and kids do not get their fingers broken  Grin } or slight power gain the mechanical fan is removed

An electric fan , if fitted , has no brains and needs to be told when to come on and off .
Picture the scenario ;
The temp from the engine to the top of the rad is a minimum 88 degrees after the thermostat opens .
The temp at the bottom of the rad is a less than 88 degrees due to being cooled by the air flowing through the rad .
If the temperature at the bottom of the rad rises that means that the temp at the top is obviously much higher .
So if you put the electric fan sensor in the bottom hose and set it to come on at a lower temp than 88 degrees then the fan will kick in .
After warming up fully and after a run , if you use one of the following to check the temp at the top hose and at the bottom hose ,you will know what temp to set the sender at { Which I assume would be set at normally a degree or so above the normal temp in the bottom hose ?}
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Non-Contact-Digital-IR-Infrared-Digital-Thermometer-With-Laser-/180906684657?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item2a1ee0f0f1
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If someone does buy one of the above digital thermometers I would be interested to know the temp difference between the water in the top and bottom hoses as I do not have a clue  Grin Grin
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« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2012, 10:39:33 PM »

The thermal switch to operate my electric fan will come on at 87deg and off at 82deg, its fitted in bottom hose.....will this be ok? Oh why didnt Reliant make an aircooled motor Roll Eyes Smiley
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« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2012, 11:09:40 PM »

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Originally posted by trikerpete  ;
The thermal switch to operate my electric fan will come on at 87deg and off at 82deg, its fitted in bottom hose.....will this be ok? Oh why didnt Reliant make an aircooled motor
Sounds about the temperature range  Smiley
If your fan comes on at 87 degrees in the bottom hose then I wonder what the temp in the top hose would be as it will obviously be hotter than that ?.
That is where we need a guinea pig to buy one of the aforementioned infra red thermometers to find out  Grin Grin
While I said that the Reliant lump is best suited to an 88 degree stat { because you get the oil up to temp and lessens the chance of mayo in the rocker cover} , some Owners run with an 82 degree stat in .
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« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2012, 07:04:43 PM »

Used to use those thermometers in the chicken sheds to measure the difference in floor temperature and ambient air temp, normally when chicks came in so we could adjust the house temp to give them the best start..

They were very accurate.
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« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2012, 08:31:47 PM »

We used them in the quarry but they were fairly expensive then
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« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2012, 09:21:48 PM »

We used them in the quarry but they were fairly expensive then
thats where the one i had came from  Wink Wink Wink
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« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2012, 12:16:20 PM »

i found a reducer on ebay 5/8x18unf male to m14x1.5 female   would fit in the head where the temp sender is then need to find a m14 fan switch
Hi O-A-B. have you a ebay link or number for this item

i know its took a while but ive found the reducer 5/8unf to m16x1.5 check....270875799967   then a mazda/subaru fan switch will fit also on ebay...130664514132
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« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2012, 02:13:49 PM »

dont think those 2 items will go together...
       Gauge adapter M16 x 1.5 Male to 5/8 UNF female. Adapts 5/8 UNF capillary water gauge pipes into M16 x 1.5 takeoffs.

the sender is also male thread M16 x 1.5

i would have thought to fit reliant motor the adaptor would need to be UNF male thread Huh
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