Manky Monkey Motors

Long story short ,engine needs ali welding and drilling for new exhaust studs but just happen to have a 125 yammy engine lying about (as you do ) so son of mine (who should be doing this write through ) decides on a full rebuild ,which I blame on all you lot on here with your fancy ideas about customising everything you can lay your hands on .So here goes

this morning

seat and tank off

dodgy wiring
how many uses for a rusty old air rifle can you think of
well this just one it saved us a lot of hard work in holding the engine up

second pic failed here we go again

heartless

and again

and here is the old heart isn't she cute

larger version I can't get the hang of this resizing lark

Ok I know some of you may be a little concerned about the elf an safe t issues here

but from this side ermmm

so here she is totally naked

don.t look ethel

question to anyone with any knowedge of the legality of this frame number
is it

if anyone has a tank suitable for this rebuild id love to here from you

new heart was laid in but woundn't sit right plates were in the right place but the i/s gap between the plates was smaller than the o/s of the lugs on the engine

t'other side

at this point in the rebuild ,remember that elf n safe t issue earlier well it decided it wasn't getting the recognition that it thought it deserved so it set about making a name for itself even though we strapped the rear end of the young lady to bench with all the jiggery pokery at the business end the erm.. chair sort of started moving and it was decided to beat a hasty retreat to ground level with her quite a good idea cos once there it can't fall any further
now talking of elf n whatsit and straps check out the working end of the angle grinder
the lesson to be learned here is never drag a power tool towards you by the lead because sometimes they don't like it and magic happens they turn themselves on and pick up anything they can to use as a weapon when they get close to you
fiendish things power tools

note bike is upside down Wayne's idea and a bloody gudun at that engine slipped

pic

old lugs had to be ground off so engine would move around in frame

As you say,is it I don't think it is all numbers are stamped directly on the frame.

bottom mount line up lovely the gap was to narrow so angle grinder out on engine an a length of 8mm threaded bar through so adjustment could be made on rest of brackets then frame was turned upright again and the top mount laid in

hunter we can't find numbers on the frame but that can soon be rectified it's just that bike is a mish mash of things but everythng seems to be legal maybe the number will be found after the paints been stripped off

top mount

then welded in place
funny if you look at it hard enough don/t it remind you of something
answers on a postcard

these are the origional plates of the yammy engine as you can see they do not fit too snuggly so wayne cut and welded the old plates to match but the welder strted to play up it didn't want do as it was told (bloody power tools) and they looked a mess but I have every confidence that in a couple of days you will see pics of the greatest workman ship that you will bow down in his presence

t'other side
last one for now more to follow
engine is now out of frame and frame is being tided up prior to painting and a few odds an sods need welding on
will post pics as we go alone
not a bad afternoons work if I do say so myself

Frame number on a pop rivetted plate was ok some years ago but they say it has to be stamped directly onto the frame now

Shes on a Q plate and registered in 1991 so it may have been ok then ??? But we shall still add the frame no to the head stock before we paint the frame

Phunkie Hiboy  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Picked up these this morning all new 5 quid for the silencer and a tenner for the rest o the bits
don't ya just love boot sales

OK peeps it's picyabrain time the chap who sold the silencer didn't know what its off so for a fiver its worth a punt whatever,so what we need to know from all you knowedgeable person out there is if its off a 2 strke would it have any effect in performance or do any damage to a 4 stroke engine

you know that magic trick where they saw a nearly naked lady in half in a box and she comes out in one piece well it don't work on motosickes

 ;D

If the pipe`s off a two stroke it might overchoke the engine and have too much back pressure.

Dont wish to appear thick but why wont a 2stroke exhaust work?

2 strokes need a lot of back pressure dont know the whys and wherefores but they won't run without it

I have two rs 125 silencers off an aprilla always thought they were 2stroke but they are straight through would i have any problems running these on my trike which is reliant based?

if it runs straight through i cant see a problem i was unsure about my 5 quid bootsale silencer but i rolled a marble down it and it come out the other side so we'll dee how it goes

four stroke exhuast just like a mans wedding ring once fitted no resistance
two stroke like a woman's wedding ring once fitted resist reist resist

ummmmmmm.. your gonna be in big troublefor sayin that!!!!!!!!lol

no 6xx for at least a month--------------------but depends on time of month  :o

new front engine mounting plates

Bit slow seeing this but my reliant trike has an ali plate with the frame numbers stamped on it pop rivetted to the frame. It isn't a Q plate either was just done and registered in the dark ages methinks. I have had it nearly 4 years and previous owner had it over 10 and it had been a trike a while before he got it so birth date unknown ;)

I think it is more critical when fitting exhaust to a 2-stroke. I know one of mine looked brill (I thought anyway) with a pair of reverse cone mega's off one of my mates olf 4 stroke brit bikes. Problem was it deafened you when you started it up and really needed pedals fitting to try and set off, top end was about 30mph :(

You can always un-rivet the end can and remove some of the baffles if it is too restrictive, well hopefully you can :)

Is the original tank off an MZ?

i thought that originally but was told its a dt 50 tank if i could find a cheap etz tank it would probably do

I must be psychic there's a mz etz tank turned up on fleabay no bids yet fiver start and only a couple of days to go.Fingers crossed

we won the etz tank it came from a bike that had it replaced under warranty due to iffy paint work the princely sum of   11.50 delivered lets see if it arrives

Sounds like a bargain.

day started off with a lovely down pour but by 9am all had cleared so WAYNE just had to get out and do some work on wotsit cos as he said on a number of occasions today "I cannot emphasise how much I want a bike back on the road"
Well driving a daddy is not my favourite thing in the whole wide world neither
so off we went
this thing needs to be a little more permenant

so danger man ? at work

stick a bit on
cut a bit off
all surplus to requirements taken off

then wafted over with stone chip looks rough but settles down on drying

101 things to do for a 12 year old lad
"here hold this while I go for a---"
on return fit damper

Start spraying engine with supposidly black (hope it darkens when cured )
Then stop suddenly as gentleman from plasticoaters turns up with some much awaited bits

so engine can wait lets get some white bits on
and get a little technical with this funny shaped thingamy
magic a thread is formed witchcraft really scares me

Oh I do like to see sparks a flyin!
Welding gloves do exist, honest, they are`nt just a figment of someones imagination  ;D

i was put on this earth to keep nhs nurses in work ;D ;D ;D

weldin gloves ????  aint that wat we av ,skin, for  ;D ;D

and eyelids instead of welding masks

ok back to the build
rear wheel in and stay bar attached

chain adjuster and tax disx fitted
front mount

and now for of that elektrikery fingy (way above my head but then again how many 30 year olds can change a set of points or know what a condenser is )

bottom fork legs
action shot on bottom fork legs

101 things to do with a 12 year old lad
thats 2 only 99 to go

this is mick our local (soon to be retired ,so you know how old he is ) galvanisher ,plasticoater ,and mudguard stripperdowner with his trusty froggie penknife whittling away
no one would have guessed that it started out as a 2000 year oak tree

done it again forgot to post a pic
last one of the day more tomorrow weather permitting

Sounds like a real team effort there Kev. Cool.

not my build andy just doing the old man bit and showing the youngs uns how to do it right

back again on a glorious sunday morning having not much to do since being excommunicated (come on rev how was I to know ?)back at the lads with camera in hand
first few whitey bits stuck on

more whitey bits

this front end is getting decidedly crowded

aint that exhaust going to be a little bit load  :D

now a real shiney shiney bit

sorted spanners 'have you heard the expression put a sock init mate,well thats what the plan is

how retro is this my old mans 58 norton has one of these ,a right pain in the harris to fit though

organised bludy choas

before use of machette and after shots

the speed you lot are working at ,,has made me wonder  ::) ::)what youre like at ,doing, trike,s ;)

thats my next project but just don't have the premises ,have got all the tackle to fill an engineering shop all sat in a garage but just don't have the money to rent one round here

ffronty rrubbery ffingy in situ looking lean and mean

thats it for today
except daddies homework
strip it
clean it
rebuild it

forgot to mention turned engine on starter and she gave a lot of healthy sparks at plug

i dont p1$$ about me ..........well not if im being watched

Surely thats the best time......when your being watched  ;D

hello mr tbone sir I gather that you saved us a hellova lotta time with the wiring which is way above my head, when wayne starts trying to explain what goes where and what does what I'm completely flumaxed
being colour blind don't help much ,also being the age that I am (not the age I feel ) I'm not much help on the lecky side of things unless it goes battery points condenser ht spark plug spark engine run
cdi don't mean a thing to me coils don't even look like coils used to do and what the hell is an engine management system
fuel injection used to be for derv engines ,but I 'm sheet hot at carbs and simple things like that
and I'm also very good at recognising a decent beer not the wishy washy rubbish that they sell in modern pubs
real ale rules
which is why the carb strip me clean me rebuild me is put off for tonight
so thank you sir for your input into this rebuild



again I can't thank you enough

No problem, surely getting some other poor sod doing all the work helping out when we can is what its all about  ;D

wish I could do all that crossing out bit that you lot can do then I could be as funny as you
but thanksalotman you have been a great help

dont worry old boy ill need you again if i need points or a condensor changing cheers again tbone

Left click & drag your cursor across the words you want to cross out to highlight them, then click on the crossy out symbol, (fourth from left, the box with the letter S with a line through it). Simples.

Like the use of white. Unusual but works really well.

theres more white to come watch this space

ooh ooh how d`you do the white thing??????? ;D ;D ;D ;D

You get married , buy a house , have kids and then stay together for the sake of the kids   ........  and then bugger off  ;D

That's so much cleaner than I was expecting Hagar!

-Manky, finger poised over the moderate button.  ;D

Surprised me too  ........   ;D

  ..  Hagar  ..   ;D

I was surprised at H's lack of rudey comments too. Are you feeling well me old mate? ;D ;D ;D
Flippin' heck, you're quick (as the barmaid said to the bishop  :o :o)
Looking very good from where I'm sat.

when your choice is getting this done or driving a volkswagen sharan it soon focuses you

Bit of a disaster lastnight.Kevsky stripped and cleaned the carb for me we fitted it tried to start her up.She would only start with air intake covered by my hand and then only run for a second.Also she dumped fuel out  of the exhaust and carb if i turned it over for too long any suggestions? 

If it's dumping fuel as you say,it sounds like float height needs setting,it's letting to much fuel through.

Changed the oil and took the carb to j.b.t. in gorleston today it was cleaned properly and he reset the float valve.Its not p1$$!ng fuel everywhere now but i cant get it to start for love or money.Sparks nice and healthy but it just wont fire.Anyway tomorrows another day wirings nearly finished hope get it done and the brakes started in the morning there should be some more piccys over the weekend when my daddy fetches his camera ;D

Try putting some fuel down the plug hole to start it, hopefully that`ll pull the fuel through for you

Change of coil would you believe it. The spark looked good when checked but there was no combustion.So on a hunch I dug up an old coil that's been kicking about the shed for a while.Immediately the spark looked stronger and now it is firing on easy start.Found another block in the carb cleared that will try to start later on today.I don't want to do it now as there is no exhaust yet and its a  bit early for the neighbours.Also another disaster the engine came with about 8" of its original pipe on trying to remove it one of the bolts snapped in the head.This was the reason I decided to get rid of the original engine.Oh well we'll have to have a look at that through the week front and back brakes on and working still but waiting on my ebay tank cant really go much further without it

ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.I cant tell you how happy that made me and how annoyed the neighbours are with the racket.Next job exhaust pipe and getting that stud out

Running and annoying the neighbours in one hit. Doesn't get any better than that! Well done matey.

one dirty dirty carb

more white bits

an alimuminiumish type thing and some black rubbery stuff
asked the man at the local takeaway what he thought
"velly rubbery "he said

yep done it again forgot to post the pic

more white bits (the shirt)

that should have been dull greyish on one side and shiny shiny ont'other bits
so plan b more white bits

ignition switch old tank and seat just to show how well wiring is hid

finally for today just a couple to show the suffering  i've had to endure this weekend while waynes been having the time of his in his back garden tinkering about

Nice view.  8)

nice day andy driven round the broads by my daughter then driven on the water by mrs k the only time she's allowed to drive me anywhere ,apart from crazy, no wheels on this type of transport

So you get to lounge languidly on the sundeck while she does all the work?
Cool.  8)

Made myself feel a bit daft last night.Fitted the gear change linkage started the her up put her into first she died.Back into neutral strated up into first she died.Turns out id cocked up the wiring a little an earth that should have gone to the frame id wired to the neutral light switch so in gear no earth DOH!!

oooh BLANDFORD FLY......um right nice kit that ;D ;D ;D

At £1.85 a bottle good value for money but when you,ve had a few on the open water theres just nowhere to go ,crossed legs time

then when ya do go yer wee smells of ginger!!!!!!!

Sounds like you should avoid this " Ginger" chappie  .........   ;D

  ..  Hagar  ..   ;D

i personaly prefere Hobgoblin............no smutty comments please Hagar

Sounds like we should also avoid this 'Hob'  'chappie'  ......

  ..  Hagar  ..   ;D

gobbling  hobs ,, bus boy ? :D :D

fairy walking through the enchanted woods stumbles upon an elf sitin on a toadstool with his head in his lap.
the fairy asks the elf, ''are you a gobblin?''
the elf replies,'' no..........................i've got a headache!''

thats the one i was tryin to remember

I've had a couple of days off work so lots been done.Broken exhaust stud removed.Exhaust made up and fitted.Singed eyebrows welding fuel tank.Tank and seat painted and fitted.Took her for a test run about 35 miles.All well apart from a little misfire at full throttle.Any suggestions? There will be more piccys if I can coax the old fella down here. ;D

Haven't seen wotsit all week so he rolls up to ours on her and I must admit I'm well im pressed with the progress

more

rear end

nice clean lines

now she really has got an identity crisis
mz filler hole welded onto yammy tank very nice job he made of it
the caps only a temp till he can source one that fits

just a little more work to do like tank decals a stainless steel strap twixt seat and tank and a wee bit of padding on seat
the ultimate finishing touch is in place maybe one of these on each side of the tank

In the pic of the swinging arm it's not obvious but the drive sprocket is missing it's plastic cover anyone know if this is legal or safe ,he has the cover but thinks it looks better without
also I'm trying to persuade him to put side panels over the holes where the battery is on show
yes or no chaps

battery could do with hiding ,yes,

how about a couple of triangle shaped pieces of ally in white one each side  a bit like the old suzuki ,beamish,, trials bike,s had

That white is very white, or is the black more grey? Nice contrast between the two, you`ve achieved a `ghostie` look.

a bit of both the tank and seat are very white the vht paint on the engine and exhaust is more of a charcoal grey

never rated trials bikes but loved the beamish with the chrome frame

Well I'm really liking the black and white  ;)

The side panels aren't happening.I do like the Beamish though.Thinking about lifting the rear suspension a bit to try to level the bike up a bit (and to stop it bottoming out because im fat)

BEFORE

AFTER

Not a little bike person myself, but great to see something different & a bit quirky. Nice.

I'VE DONE IT. I FOUND OUT WHAT SHE IS.Apparently she started off in life as a Yamaha RD 50/80.This explains why there was so little room in the frame to get the SR engine in 

Who's a clever budgie
Whats next Sherlock Jack the Ripper?

After Wotsit was stolen last year I bought a little 1978 Honda CG 125 but as is my luck lately this too was stolen last Saturday night so this as spurred my interest in getting wotsit road worthy I've been gathering parts for a few months and work will be starting this week
                               ;D ;D WATCH THIS SPACE ;D ;D

This is what i got back,but everything is straight so time to brake out the spanners

Sheesh, maybe you need to invest in a bigger padlock!

2 bikes and a scooter knicked in 6 months  >:( I'm starting to get a little paranoid now

Sounds like it's personal.

It's beginning to feel that way mate

Sounds like It's time to move.

or buy a big dog and large gun

And take your bikes into the house!

kitchen table === best workbench ,ever,,  warm,,,dry,,,, and not too far from the kettle, ;D ;D ;D

The cg has been found missing its silencer and ignition switch,otherwise not too bad.Still wotsit will be done by april just in time for the nice weather

What makes you think im for hire  :)

 ;D

I,ve just seen this on on fleabay. Item no330661938793.Will it work any advice? ???

i want one. i'm building a tot rod for the wee uns
needs a bug scoop tho

OK April was a little optamistic we are now well into May and she isn't yet on wheels.The old fella's got a few piccys so I'll see if he'll post them later on hope to see you in Basingstoke on Sunday  ;D

Ah, a genuine MMM rebuild!  - why should you be any different?   ;) ;D

I really have to get this finished projects are starting to build up now when this is done we have a gt550 trike a cb125 super dream flat tracker to do and a moto guzzi trike coming

Yup, sounds like most Manky sheds!

good on ya mate, get them in young...

bugger, he's catching me up  :'( :'( need to find some more unfinished projects to add to the barn..

Its been put on hold for a bit the guzzi trike has to have a msva test and the norwich office is closing next year so i am concentrating on that so i can get it through before the office shuts

Right its been twelve months now (this isn't a long time in the grand scheme of things Mrs. wayne has been waiting for a new back gate for 3 years now) the Guzzi trike is as finished as it's going to get until the winter,so its time to have a look at Wotsit again.
She is stripped (again) and her frame is away for blasting so that all the dodgy welding can be rectified
After my mighty cg 125 being nicked for the second time and Wotsit's yammy engine refusing to produce a spark I have decided to fit the honda engine with its direct lighting and not needing indicators I recon I'll get away with a small burglar alarm battery just to make sure the horn works properly

so here's the frame back from shot blasting without and then with it's new heart

here we have the chief mechanic showing us wannabe's how it's done

and finally for today some  engine mounting bracket thingamejigs

Lookin' good. Those mini mechanics are great aren't they. They almost fit in the toolbox.  :D

Bless her.
She is genuinely really enthusiastic  and does try hard,it took her 20 minutes to undo a single exhaust nut but she is only 5  and she managed to make her old dad really proud

 ;D Wish I'd learnt at that age. My Dad was a fantastic carpenter & general builder, but not interested in mechanical stuff at all. I've picked up what little I know from various mates & from making lots of mistakes! Catch 'em while they're young & still got their curiosity.

I find it odd,we have given my boy(14) every opportunity ,dragged him to the lock up bought him tools tried to get him interested but to no avail.
Then my eldest girl(7) came along,not a prayer if its not pink or fluffy she doesn't want to know
The youngest(5) really tries,
I honestly think a lot is nature over nurture.

Yeah, my big brother Steve, (Brock), is just as interested in things mechanical as me, (though, annoyingly, much better than me). His interest probably encouraged mine. I think it's a shared urge to be creative. We just happen to have chosen metal as our canvas. 

Being a frame of questionable ancestry I don't feel too guilty about this but I chopped the back end off
being mono shock the rear of the frame is only there so we have somewhere to put the seat
This will be replaced with a new piece set at a jaunty angle so that the arse end is up in the air a little
Ordering a cafe racer style seat next week so that the rear end can be started on
Pics to follow

This is what she looked like before work was halted to concentrate on the trike

piccies from yesterday
first one's another engine to frame holding fingy being made from two bits into one
then the torso before she was attacked and abused by an angle grinder

10 minutes and five cutting discs later the poor old thing with her ass cut off

and now with the tank on
the top rail line is to follow the line of the base of the petrol tank (not my idea)

It's a dinky little thing in't it!

My dad got me interested in spannering - I was passing the spanners and learning the difference between AF and Whitworth at an early age.  Thanks Dad - it's led me into a lot of fun even if I've not actually built anything!

Little bikes are great fun the most fun you can have a 50mph

Yeah, Loony always says that. I started on a 200cc Honda & never went any smaller, but some of my old biking buddies had very fond memories of their first "Fizzies".

You can ride a mighty cg 125 at full throttle weaveing in and out of town centre traffic with a wacking great grin on your face. ;D ;D ;D
Try that with a yammy R1 or a gixxer thou you,d end up soiling yourself

Yam RXS100!

Ride it, rally it, continental tour it, rev the nuts off it!

100% FUN!

Suzuki TS125. Had it since 86 and it still makes me smile when I take it out for a ride.
Small bikes are a hoot.

Pay day tomorrow so I'll be ordering one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Cafe-Racer-Seat-suitable-for-use-with-Monkey-Bike-Motorcycles-/190847803220?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2c6f6a5f54
The pipe for the rear part of the frame came in yesterday 22mm o/d with a 2.5mm wall 7.5 metres long the princely sum of £9.50 bargain

A couple of piccys of the front end the yokes have been dropped down the forks quite considerably to level up the bottom rails of the frame and the headlight is a reject from the guzzi trike

looking good....is that an x7 tank....it suits it well

Lookin' kinda funky!

Well spotted that man
A slightly modified Suzuki X7 tank bought a an auto jumble in Ipswich early last year
I thought it looked cafe racer-ish
I was a little undecided about the headlight but the more I look at it the more I like it we'll see what it looks like when its painted

My shiney new seat arrived today but I had no time to do anything tonight but we got a couple of pics with my boy holding everything in place

I'm not really a "little bike" person -but I really like that!

These are the hybrid honda/yamaha front engine plates welded together and cleaned up.
Also the new seat frame rails made at work today

The work didn't stop there oh no.
The new seat frame was made and tacked to the frame also the seat trial fittemed
I just have to make a loop for the rear of the frame

that's kinda funky in a streetfighter sorta way

that looks really cool....ive got a dr650 engine thats just waiting to be slotted into a frame the same as that.

I honestly don't think anything much bigger would go in.
I haven't altered the main part of the frame at all and when we fitted the last engine (a yammy sr125) there was very little clearance between the head and the frame.

Any how work is continuing with the rear mudguard fitted.I also went to see my MOT chap who said I don't need indicators.and I only need a brake light on one brake so that should simplify the wiring

 ;)Nothing to photograph this weekend I've been on daddy duties
just the seat unit bolted down
I'll get some pics of the progress through the week

Couple of photos rear light fitted holes for the rivets drilled by my youngest wished I had the camera with me  Foot peg mounting plates made and tacked to frame
Also a start made to the exhaust although this may very well change as I picked up some freebie tube bends from the place we get our pipe bent for work

It looks teeny weeny but I love it!  :)

I can't wait to ride her she's definitely differant to her 1st and 2ND incarnations

Some more pictures
The first attempt at the exhaust was a bit pap so I managed to cadge some 32mm o/d pipe and an assortment of bends from a local tubular furniture makers,so myself and the boy went to the garage and this is what we came up with

And another just because the boy wanted to get his mug on show

I like this a lot and it's giving me silly ideas about small bikes.
Too old for a café racer so maybe a full out 70s chop. Long forks, prism tank, king-queen seat and a tiny CG125 engine.
Now where's that bantam frame ?

Go for it Dave!
Looks great with someone aboard it.

prism tank in my shed  ;)

I have an early cg 125 rolling chassis rather than scrapping a Bantam
The old fella (Kevsky) would shout hieratic if you chopped an old bantam up

Don't panic. I wouldn't cut up a BSA frame. It's easier to make one from scratch. Though being pre 60......

Thinking about a vinyl wrap for the tank and rear of the seat and found this whilst flicking through Ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200776869655?var=500068682345&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Wouldn't it be easier just to get the tank painted in a flip paint?

It would probably be easier but I'm no painter and i want to do as much myself as possible.
Also this is a genuine poverty build with most of the parts being dug out of the shed and scrap pile.
The only parts I've bought are the seat and rear light everything else I already had

 :)

Exhaust is welded up and fits lovely
She is stripped again and the frame is at work being welded up and having gussets fitted
Hopefully she will be blasted and powder coated within the next couple of weeks

Gussets are in and frame is all welded up we have some gates and railings going to the powder coaters so I'm going to chuck it in with them,the last time I did this it cost me £7 yes £7 to get it coated

Just a quick piccy of the frame before powder coating

OK I've been away for a while a lots happened and I ended up married but let's have a look at wotsit

Hello you! Congratulations!
Is that a Q plate I see there?

She was on a q when I first bought her  and I just used the same vin and reg as its only the rest of the frame that holds the seat that has been altered
Having trouble insuring her bikesure want £850 to insure my 17 year old son and its only a cg125 lump in there

Little shot of her on the road runs sweet but had to free the clutch up