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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2011, 10:57:12 AM »

Hi Steve, thank you for taking the trouble but......
I am now the owner of another machine (well i will be later when i collect it).
This one is again undoubtably from the far east, but the company that sells them is local to me, so any issues and at least I can talk face to face with someone. The company and its machines have a good reputation over on the Mig Welding forum, so i`m hopeful.
This one was nearly double the price of the first, so not cheap! but at least it should be wired correctly.
Stay tuned for an update after I`ve tried her out!
Thanks again Steve.
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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2011, 02:32:02 PM »

Hope you have better luck with this one tbone.
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« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2011, 02:37:53 PM »

Can any one tell us or me cause i don't know.what the different size and colour tungsten are for.
and what the numbers on the side of the nozzle mean Huh
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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2011, 04:17:40 PM »

The tungsten size is straightforward, the thicker it is, the more amps you can put through it.
So for a 1mm thoraited tungsten you`d be working between 15 & 80 amps, a 1.6mm will be ok in the 70 to 150 amp range ect ect.

I have a chart that shows what the different colours are, in short though, they depict what the rod is made up from, as most tungstens are actualy an alloy. Certain alloys will also conduct the current better than others and so will be more suited to ac polarity than dc.
This link will explain.........http://www.aglevtech.net/faq.html

 The number on the ceramic cup refers to the size, not sure how they are measured but a larger cup will give better shielding but hinder visability of the weld.
I think on a butt joint you`d be ok with most, but with something like a fillet, you`d need a small cup to be able to access the run.

Now wait for Brock to turn up and answer this properly  Grin
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« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2011, 06:32:08 PM »

   will you hell as like, good information right there. That's a huge spec on a machine for that sort of money, I'm jealous. For what it's worth , Paul's is a little 140A Butters machine, adequate is what it is.
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« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2011, 07:22:05 PM »

size of rod's and cup's ooohhhaaa
sorry guy's am I on the right forum
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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2011, 08:58:21 PM »

just had a look to see what size tungsten and collets i got in my tig welder.
1.6 grey tungsten.1.6 collet.and a 3.2 collet body.is that right or will it affect the welding flame  Huh
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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2011, 12:03:28 AM »

   The grey tip is ( I think) 2% ceriated, one day I will look that up and see what it actually means  Roll Eyes, however to my simple mind, grey tip-general purpose, seems to weld anything. Red tip- 2% thoriated, for most steels. White tip- someting else in it and used for any alloys.

   I am useing 1.6mm for everything at the moment, I have 3.2's in the drawer ready for bridge building someday. Are you saying you have a mismatched collet set or is the 1.6 collet body already installed in the torch head ?
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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2011, 09:12:02 AM »

Hi brock. yes they were in it when i brought it.been using the arc.just started to look at the tig.
the collet that screws into the torch head is   3.3 mm
the other collet that the tungsten slides into is 1.6 mm
the tungsten is 1.6 mm
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« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2011, 11:06:45 PM »

Grey tipped ones are contain Ceria 2%.

White tip ones are contain zircon. and are therefore Zirconated.

I use the ceriated ones mostly but I do have some Thoriated ones too!
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« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2011, 11:09:40 PM »

Thoriated =Thorium=radioactive?
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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2011, 09:22:57 AM »

Thoriated =Thorium=radioactive?

Mildly radioactive.

No direct evidence of it being a problem but wear a mask when grinding the tungsten to be sure.

A dust mask not a halloween one  Grin
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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2011, 11:41:48 AM »

dont need haloween mask......me ugly enough already!
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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2011, 07:54:15 PM »

Thoriated =Thorium=radioactive?

Have you never heard of Tig Finger? It makes your hands glow a deep yellow colour!  Grin

Nothing to report on the Tig side yet, I havent been able to borrow the Argon cylinder i scrounged before and can`t sort my own supply until payday  Angry

I have however been Arc welding and am very pleased with the result. The last attempt i had at stick was many many years ago and found it to be very fierce.
Can`t say for sure that it`s the machine or the rods but it`s a lot smoother than i remember although the weld bead still looks `industrial` when compared to the Mig.
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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2011, 08:37:00 PM »

Hi tbone.you will find the arc welding better.these are inverter welders.
just ordered some new tungstens and collets for mine
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