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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2011, 09:07:36 PM » |
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The resistor's a new one, given to me by PopRodder. The coil was just an old 12 volt one. Can see me hunting for another dizzy at this rate.
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2011, 09:12:37 PM » |
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The resistor's a new one, given to me by PopRodder. The coil was just an old 12 volt one. Can see me hunting for another dizzy at this rate.
not just yet. so there was no coil with this engine.just distributor cap leads and circut board |
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2011, 10:19:02 PM » |
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No, might've been the one in the photo, might've been another. Haven't got it anymore I'm afraid -well, it was several years ago.
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2011, 10:29:40 PM » |
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Years ago when I had the Rover engine in the Mini, I went down the local factors at the time for a new coil as mine was playing up. I fitted it outside the shop and tried to drive back to the garage. All I managed to do was completely blow out one of the front silencers. I jumped into my other car and took it back and found thay had given me a points coil by mistake.  The only reason they used ballast coils with points was it inproved the spark on start up, with the electronic ignition there is a better spark anyway so its not needed. |
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2011, 10:38:27 PM » |
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Years ago when I had the Rover engine in the Mini, I went down the local factors at the time for a new coil as mine was playing up. I fitted it outside the shop and tried to drive back to the garage. All I managed to do was completely blow out one of the front silencers. I jumped into my other car and took it back and found thay had given me a points coil by mistake. The only reason they used ballast coils with points was it inproved the spark on start up, with the electronic ignition there is a better spark anyway so its not needed. yes but whats is confusing is this unit shown here is according to the rover v8 forums is a ballast resistor with electronic ignition distributor  |
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2011, 10:58:22 PM » |
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wright as i see it is i think the distributor that came with the engine and according to the v8 forums is a LUCAS OPUS 35 DE8 transistorize ignition.the alloy electronic plate is a ballast resistor what we want to know is what coil do we need and were can we get one of those ballast resistor has any one got on in there garage or yard this is the ballast resistor this is the distributor  can any one help i know we have talked about electronic ignition not have a ballast resistor so if you can identify this items from a rover sdi 3500 our leader will be grateful better still have got a full ignition distributor set up going even better |
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2011, 11:07:06 PM » |
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I'm thinking just swap the electronic dizzy for a standard points one & save ourselves some hassle. Loony has a mate who's into off-roading, mainly in cut down V8 Range Rovers. I'll see if he has a spare.
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2011, 11:12:13 PM » |
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I'm thinking just swap the electronic dizzy for a standard points one & save ourselves some hassle. Loony has a mate who's into off-roading, mainly in cut down V8 Range Rovers. I'll see if he has a spare.
if you can get the complete set up ie dizzy coil cap. might have to change the drive cog at the bottom of the dizzy. not sure any help would be appreciated |
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2011, 07:31:30 AM » |
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you cant swap a points dizzy for an electronic one without a lot of work swapping the mainshaft over the holes dont line up as the drive gears are different between early p5-p6 models. and you really dont need that ballast resistor  |
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2011, 07:40:21 AM » |
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Hi toad. yes i thought i would not be straight forward swap how can we wire it then to a coil then theres 2 wires from the dizzy a red one and a black/white one there a red wire that come out of the dizzy to what looks like a suppressor then to dizzy resistor battery then theres a white and black wire that comes out the dizzy to ? |
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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2011, 11:51:19 AM » |
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Here is the wiring diagram i posted before.
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2011, 12:11:17 PM » |
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thanks mate i have got that as well.problem is Andy has not got the resistor any more.so need to know how to wire this dizzy up with out it.as hes been told it can be done but we don't know where the wires go.i am trying to sort this out for Andy so he can hopefully take it to the ssr wheels day on the 22nd.at the moment i not sure what to do relying on info from other monkeys or the big v8 boys.
we had it running on sunday but not running right for the show to drive around
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2011, 12:34:36 PM » |
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you cannot run that dizzy correctly without the 6 wire resistor. Putting a direct 12v feed to the coil will saturate it magnetically, as well as overheat it, both these will cause a poor spark / misfire and eventually the coil will burn out.
The system is designed to be used with that box!
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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2011, 12:44:04 PM » |
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you cannot run that dizzy correctly without the 6 wire resistor. Putting a direct 12v feed to the coil will saturate it magnetically, as well as overheat it, both these will cause a poor spark / misfire and eventually the coil will burn out.
The system is designed to be used with that box!
yes i know. i have said that.  but we have been told.we dont need it. we do need it.and keep going over the same thing each time. no do this or do that |
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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2011, 01:32:46 PM » |
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Well if thats what you wanna do.....
The Black/White wire from the dizzy goes to the coil -
The Red wire to the coil +
12V feed into the coil +
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