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« on: November 01, 2009, 03:33:37 PM » |
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any one know what type of starter I need for my 850 reliant lump . just changed the engine complete  with the fly wheel that came with it . fitted my original starter which was a pre engaged type (the gearbox had been drilled to suit it) the starter now does not engage the fly wheel. I have checked the teeth on the fly wheel and they are all OK. so I think i must need the correct starter ... but which model number ? can anyone help please ....
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 03:35:16 PM » |
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Maybe wrong amount of teeth on the starter dog? I think you can still buy the new dog for it .
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 03:39:39 PM » |
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maybe but how do i find out what one to get as the factors dont even list the starters any more ?
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 04:46:37 PM » |
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any one know what type of starter I need for my 850 reliant lump . just changed the engine complete  with the fly wheel that came with it . fitted my original starter which was a pre engaged type (the gearbox had been drilled to suit it) the starter now does not engage the fly wheel. I have checked the teeth on the fly wheel and they are all OK. so I think i must need the correct starter ... but which model number ? can anyone help please .... [/quote are you getting just a whizzing noise??? that could be just a flat battery. try removing the starter and wiring direct to a set of jump leads and see if it throws the dog gear out as far as im aware all flywheels are the same.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 04:49:30 PM » |
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There are only 2 options, inertia or pre-engaged. The pre-engaged unit is used on mini`s too.
who`s part number do you want for reference?
Autostart A810 Bosch 0 986 020 151 or 9 004 475 314 Delco DRS3368 GKN 4091 Hella 8EA 730 207 001 Lucas LRS536 Marelli MRS525 QH FRS128 Sovereign SS810 Unipart GXE4527 Valeo VS150 XL X913368
And as a side note, I detest these modern motor factors that insist of desposing of old catalogues the second a new one is published!
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 05:54:56 PM » |
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t.bone... wasn,t the inrtia starter also used on early mini,s and moggy 1000,s ive had hold of 100,s over the years but cant remember the part no,s
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 06:11:17 PM » |
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thanks guys I knew you could help . I have hopefully solved the problem as the guy I got the engine from also still has the original starter . just need to pick it up thanks again
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 06:36:27 PM » |
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t.bone... wasn,t the inrtia starter also used on early mini,s and moggy 1000,s ive had hold of 100,s over the years but cant remember the part no,s
Sort of....although the early mini`s did use an inertia starter its not the same as the reliant, the mounting holes are closer together, 4.5" as opposed to 5", 1098 minors use the same one though.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 07:57:34 PM » |
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Aren't the flywheels different for pre-engaged & inertia starters?
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2009, 09:14:35 PM » |
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erm, i dunno. I cant see any reason for them to be different but......
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 08:36:45 PM » |
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I've never compared them, but remember a conversation with someone once when we were talking about how noisy the inertia type are -they engage with a great clang of metal on metal. Pre-engaged obviously sound a little more civilised when they start. Can't even remember who I was talking to, but they said if you switch to pre-engaged, make sure you swap the fly wheel too.
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 11:03:26 PM » |
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Probably meant the flywheel ring-gear, not the actual flywheel, Morrag
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2009, 12:36:10 AM » |
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In the dim distant past I vaguely recall that the was an engine fitted with an inertia starter, with this type of starter there is a lead on the teeth of the ring gear on the side where the pinion engages, there was a conversion to fit a pre-engaged starter that involved flipping the ring gear (in practice a new one) so there was no lead on the teeth where the pre-engaged pinion engages. Can any one remember what vehicle this was on
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