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« Reply #165 on: February 15, 2011, 09:51:27 PM »

Cheers Andy Wink
So how am I going to get this very long thing around  Huh well what about a very long trailer  Shocked
This 25 foot long with a 21 1/2 foot bed is being built by my friend Anthony at his company http://www.sovereignwroughtiron.com I have known Anthony for quite a few years now and used to work part time for him and a few years ago rebuild his trike and Rover V8 engine.
It is being done to my design and made to make loading and unloading easy and without having to remove the trailer from the back of the van. When I went to see it this morning there was a little problem, as they thought the back end was too floppy, they had welded in a rear cross member, I have asked them to cut it back out and move it a couple of feet forward, the gap was designed wide enough for the chassis to pass through. The ramps will be 50 inch's and will be fixed on the back.
As at the moment I don't know where the ballance point will be, the axle is fixed on both sides with two bolts, they have stamped out two long lengths of flat plate with nuts welded on top, this was then welded to the underneath of the chassis, I can now move the axle fore or aft about 18 inchs each way and if I do need to (I have had no problem with my old car and trailer with only one pair of wheels and the new car will be a couple of hundred kilos lighter), fit another axle.
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« Reply #166 on: February 16, 2011, 05:24:20 AM »

Will you be able to tow a trailer that long on an ordinary car driving licence Tone?
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« Reply #167 on: February 16, 2011, 07:42:14 AM »

Will you be able to tow a trailer that long on an ordinary car driving licence Tone?

remember I'm a oldie, looking at my licence its the weight (7 1/5 ton plus trailer) not the length and it sould be lighter than my old car and trailer. I have ordered "Long Vehicle" plates and there will be 3 markers down each side and red/white lights on top of the mudgaurds and at the back each side (Plus the normal rear lights)
Brock will tell you that this is short compaired to some and most of them are boxed.
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« Reply #168 on: February 16, 2011, 07:48:33 AM »

here you go Andy, just in with my bed at 6.6 meters (Single axle) (Always thought it was just weight) Just worked it out that with my current van it will be 13.5 m over all.
http://www.towingdelivery.co.uk/TowingRules.aspx
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« Reply #169 on: February 16, 2011, 11:12:46 PM »

Only curious Tony.  Wink
Isn't there a reg about the length of the trailer compared to the length of the towing vehicle too?
Mind you, gliders are regularly towed around the Basingstoke area by normal 4 x 4s, (Lasham airfield has a glider club). Their trailers are huge.
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« Reply #170 on: February 16, 2011, 11:26:18 PM »

Without going any further into it, a quick google about towing gliders reveals huuuuge cans of worms!

http://www.longmynd.com/HTML_pages/trailer_towing.htm

"The critical question is whether the towing vehicle/trailer combination is legal, depending on their weights, and if it is what sort of driving licence is needed. For example a NIssan X-Trail has a MAM of 2050kg and a MTW of 4050 kg so with an LS6 Cobra trailer which has a MAM of 1300kg this is a legal combination. and only a category B licence is required. The DG505 trailer though, with a MAM of 2000kg, would still be legal on the X-Trail but would require a B+E licence to tow (total MTW > 3500kg and MAM trailer > VUW X-Trail)."
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« Reply #171 on: February 16, 2011, 11:34:57 PM »

Lost me already Bobbi!  Tongue
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« Reply #172 on: February 17, 2011, 08:10:42 AM »

Same here Bobbi Shocked

This is the bit I like
3.If the overhang is more than 3.05m, an attendant must be carried and the police must be notified 2 days before commencing the journey.

Luckly mine is just needs boards (Ordered)
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« Reply #173 on: February 20, 2011, 08:02:27 PM »

Thought you might appreciate this picture (oh and I appologise at the quality, but I wasn't going to flatten it out so I could get it under a scanner!!). Just thumbing my way through the latest Rodders Journal to arrive and I came across this picture. It's of Pete Miller posing with his second incarnation of the competition coupe "Chicken Coupe" at the 1967 Winternationals, Pomona, with Ford power before at a later date changing to Chrysler power. This is the very car that ended up residing in the UK from 1970 under verious ownerships............................................
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« Reply #174 on: February 20, 2011, 08:10:16 PM »

at some point theres also going to be an overhaul of driving licenses.
even us lot that have a paper license will lose driving 7.5's and certain trailer towing.
cannot remember when this is coming in though.
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« Reply #175 on: February 20, 2011, 09:08:06 PM »

at some point theres also going to be an overhaul of driving licenses.
even us lot that have a paper license will lose driving 7.5's and certain trailer towing.
cannot remember when this is coming in though.

looking at my licence to other day got all the class's needed, but as its only going to be towed with my transit its well under weight and length.
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« Reply #176 on: February 28, 2011, 09:35:41 PM »

Thought you might appreciate this picture (oh and I appologise at the quality, but I wasn't going to flatten it out so I could get it under a scanner!!). Just thumbing my way through the latest Rodders Journal to arrive and I came across this picture. It's of Pete Miller posing with his second incarnation of the competition coupe "Chicken Coupe" at the 1967 Winternationals, Pomona, with Ford power before at a later date changing to Chrysler power. This is the very car that ended up residing in the UK from 1970 under verious ownerships............................................

Nice photo, not seen that one before, thanks for posting it.
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« Reply #177 on: March 01, 2011, 08:23:10 AM »

It was a odd weekend with lots done but not much to show. I had to get there early Sat morning as Mark Norton from the Tech crew was coming later to check Steve & Lesley's two cars and mine (I know mines only just the safety cell, but this is all that needs to be checked at the moment) Steve had run out of gas and only managed to get a bottle in at the end of the week, so the first thing to do was weld in the last of the helmet bars, we bent a cut this and while Steve welded it in I started to rub down the chassis and other bits ready to give a coat of etch primer. I started on the steering box and battery mount using scotchbrite pads,
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Then I did other parts until I ran out of paint.
When Mark turned up he started with mine, even though we had done the chassis to the sfi regs I was still surprised to find it would tag to 7.50 but needed a plate with makers name, date of make and chassis number on it. Steve is getting one made in the week and then taking the chassis to another garage where a car is being tagged by the end of the week.
Steve & Lesley’s Black Pig Too was next and they wanted a 8.50 tag, this is what they got but by changing a couple of bars and fitting a plate, this would also go to 7.50. Their new altered chassis is made of chrome moly and mark checked it down to a 6.00 tag, so they were quite happy with that.
When Mark had finished I started to finish the tinwork, the first part was the belly pan, this needed tidying up and adjusting as we had now fitted the pins for the axle stands and the wheelie bars mounts at the back, I trimmed it where needed and when happy put it to one side. Time I done this it was nearly time to finish for the day, so we arranged all 5 cars in the workshop for a photo shoot, it was tight but we got them all in.
There is the S & L’s new altered (Minor Alteration) with Black Pig sitting next to it, Black Pig Too in front with Petro’s Model A comp coupe next to that and mine in the foreground.
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We got back to The Shed about 10 the next morning and I started doing the top of the body, I marked around the front by the motor plate and trimmed it off, I sat there for ages carefully dressing the front around the edge, when happy I rubbed it down and started to mark out the cockpit area.
You have to have a wind deflector 5 x 12” so I drew a design on it until I was happy with the shape, But when I took it off to cut it I was not sure if I liked it or not, so after looking for a while I decided if I did not like it after cutting, more would have to come off so there would not be a problem.
I cut it out, cleaned it up and re fitted it to the chassis, it looked better than I thought it would and I like it, so after that took nearly all day to do it was time to make my way home.
I took the tubs and front of the body up with me this weekend, so we have decided that this is what we are going to do next time I am up, (The weekend after next) while in between this make up the wind deflector.
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« Reply #178 on: March 01, 2011, 08:54:36 AM »

Erm, question from the idiot time.....Whats tagged? what are the different numbers for? what does checking for tagging involve?

Ok 3 questions!!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #179 on: March 01, 2011, 03:34:06 PM »

I'm guessing the numbers are the times the chassis is considered safe for?
For example, a 7.5 tag means the car's certified safe for runs of up to 7 1/2 seconds for the quarter mile?
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