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« Reply #1125 on: March 13, 2009, 12:52:32 AM » |
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The doors are still welded shut so with the roof panel removed we get our first proper look at the interior.
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« Reply #1126 on: March 13, 2009, 12:54:35 AM » |
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It's actually roomier than you'd think. Plenty of leg room, just a bit tight on foot room, so good job it's an auto & only has 2 pedals. Now we can start working out the position of the seats, steering wheel, pedals, gearshift etc.
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« Reply #1127 on: March 13, 2009, 12:56:47 AM » |
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Brummm, rumpitty, rumpitty, rumpitty, bruuummmm -can't wait.  |
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« Reply #1128 on: March 13, 2009, 01:23:22 AM » |
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Didn't know that sun roofs had been invented back in the pop's day. Looking good matey, keep it up.
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« Reply #1129 on: March 18, 2009, 12:09:17 AM » |
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Another tiny step forward today.
The Moggy Minor steering column needed shortening by around 6 inches to fit the Pop cab. Although it's not needed for the Commercial SVA test, we thought it'd be wise to add a collapsible section to the column. So on my way home from work today, I took a detour to "Beetlelink" in Farnham, Surrey. They flogged me a second hand Beetle steering column for 15 quid, giving me a honeycombed collapsible bit.
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« Reply #1130 on: March 18, 2009, 12:20:35 AM » |
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Unfortunately, the honeycomb section was too long, If I'd just cut the Moggy column, removed 6 inches, then welded in the collapsible bit, it would've ended longer than the original. So I had to cut the end from the section & shorten it, then splice it into the Moggy column. Very fiddly, using slugs inside each end, but it seems O.K. Not entirely sure the honeycomb bit is now long enough to be effective, but it's as long as I could make it. Column shortened from 30 inches long to 26.
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« Reply #1131 on: March 18, 2009, 08:27:49 PM » |
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Hmm. We ran into our first real problem today & it's got us a bit stumped.
The whole steering train's now hooked up, from the steering wheel, through a Moggy Minor column & Rover intermediate shaft to a modified Pop steering box, then a drag link across under the engine to the opposite wheel. Fine -except it doesn't work.
It's almost as if the Pop steering box isn't man enough for the job. If we jack the front wheels off the ground everything's fine -turn the steering wheel & the wheels turn. Let it back down & it doesn't want to know. Feels as if the steering box is locked up. The front wheels are 15" Hillman Minx ones on skinny crossplies, so not much different in size to the original Pop ones. The big difference though is in the weight of the engine. A 3 1/2 litre Rover V8 must weigh a hell of a lot more than an old Ford sidevalve, even if the Rover is aluminium.
So how do we cure our lack of direction?
Would a longer arm on the steering box give more leverage? Should we be looking at power steering of some sort? Are we missing something very basic here?
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« Reply #1132 on: March 18, 2009, 08:56:26 PM » |
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any pics?
what angle have you on ya joint(s?)?
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« Reply #1133 on: March 18, 2009, 09:06:50 PM » |
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Would a longer arm on the steering box give more leverage? I would think that would make it worse |
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« Reply #1134 on: March 18, 2009, 09:23:41 PM » |
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That's what we wondered CP.
Very hard to get photos with it all fitted in place. There are 2 universal joints, each running at less than the recommended max of 30 degrees. You can see the steering box further back in this thread. The drag link runs from the steering box, under the sump, to the far end of the cross link, where it attaches to a lug cast into the top of the ball joint. I wonder whether we'd get more leverage with it attached to an A arm on the back of the hub, as normal? At the moment it's pulling on the cross link, about 3 inches out from the back of the hub.
We haven't tried rolling the car forward while turning the wheel. Presumably that would be much easier. I know trad' rods tend to have basic, heavy steering, but we did expect to be able to turn the wheels while at a standstill.
I'll carry on knocking up a hanging bracket to mount the steering column to the underside of the dashboard while we figure this out.
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« Reply #1135 on: March 19, 2009, 12:12:35 AM » |
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does this help,   Manky's Pop. |
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« Reply #1136 on: March 19, 2009, 10:47:29 AM » |
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would a moggy steering box not work better
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« Reply #1137 on: March 19, 2009, 05:16:22 PM » |
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I'm not even sure Moggies have boxes Tony -are they rack & pinnion? I owned 3 of them so should know but can't remember. Not that I've got a spare Morris knocking about anyway.
Stupidly, I didn't even check the UJs were aligned when I slotted it all together. I'll check tomorrow, but can't see it would make any difference as everything works when the car's jacked up. I'll try & get some pics tomorrow.
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« Reply #1138 on: March 19, 2009, 06:45:25 PM » |
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Never realised that stearing was so complicated!
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« Reply #1139 on: March 19, 2009, 06:51:59 PM » |
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stupid me,moggiies dont have steering box,i ment robin ,sorry
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