Manky's Pop.

[Manky Monkey]

They do, but the Sherpa front axle's way wider than we want & is a very heavy cast beam. Doesn't look easy to narrow & has no means of fitting a transverse spring. I was going to try & use it cos I thought the Pop one would be too lightweight for a Rover powered car, but everyone I talk to says it'll be fine -loads of rod & drag car drivers use 'em.

[VALLEYSBOY]

ar right then back to the plot

[brock]

   just out of interest, have you pulled the Sherpa hub apart to check bearing sizes and spacing ?

[Manky Monkey]

Aha! Now there's an idea that hadn't occurred to me, (very few ideas do). I'm told there isn't a disc set up that'll bolt straight onto a Pop axle -they all require some degree of machine work. So using the Sherpa hub & retaining the same bolt pattern front & back would be a good thing.

[panthershaun]

I'm told there isn't a disc set up that'll bolt straight onto a Pop axle -they all require some degree of machine work.

Not what I've been told Manky Triumph spitfire hubs are apparently a straight swap, all you need is a spacer turned up to locate the hub on the spindle and fit inside the oil seal

[Manky Monkey]

all you need is a spacer turned up to locate the hub on the spindle and fit inside the oil seal

-isn't that "some degree of machine work"?

[panthershaun]

OK OK you win birthdayboy 

[Manky Monkey]

 

[madron]

triumph herald discs swap straight over using pop inner bearing and herald outer or using a small backing spacer viva go on or cortina mk3 will fit using a small stepped spacer behind and under the rear bearing if memory serves me but all will need a caliper mount fabricating   phew that was a lot of brain matter to remember as havnt done one for years

[brock]

   pretty much what I thought, they all seem to need at least one spacer or stepped sleeve so might it make sense to keep the stud pattern common and look into using what you have, no idea if it will work just interested really 

[Manky Monkey]

Precisely. I've got a Sherpa axle sat outside Loony's workshop. I haven't got a set of Marina, Cortina or Herald hubs about my person. So it makes sense to recycle what I've got, if they're gonna need as much machining as anything else.

[panthershaun]

check out this link, you may have already seen it but it is very helpful.

http://www.flatheadv8.freeserve.co.uk/martsframes.htm

 

[panthershaun]

the link doesn't take you straight in, after the home page, go to index and look at the bottom right hand list and you will see a picture of old rusty, under that is the link to Unfinished Pop, try page 6 on that link.

phew

[Manky Monkey]

Interesting.
Measured up the axles today. Richard's front Pop beam, with Marina hubs & 4 bolt wheels, (Wolsey maybe), is 53 inches wide from outside edge to outside edge of the tyres.
My Sherpa rear axle's 64 inches. The extra width looks right though cos the bodywork curves out from the front -the nose of a Pop's very narrow once you take the big flared arches off. The Sherpa front axle was definitely too wide though.
Today Taz, Lunatic & I drove over to Valley Gas Speed Shop in Newbury, Berks, clutching a scrap of paper with a few scribbled measurements. Amazingly, Jimmy actually seemed to think he could build us a chassis from that. Should be ready within the next two weeks. 

[poprodder]

hi,
easy way to mount axle under spring on a pop is to use model y spring perches.
gasser style!!!!