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« on: November 26, 2019, 11:24:52 PM » |
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Does any one else have this problem.when I turn my welder on wether is my mig or arch either blows the fuse in the plug or the main one on the fuse board.will it help to turn the amps right down then increase once it's running or is there another simple solution?
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2019, 11:57:15 AM » |
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Is that recent or has it always done that?
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2019, 02:15:49 PM » |
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Is it a 16amp being stepped down to normal 3 pin?
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2019, 02:22:23 PM » |
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I did have, and as said it was 16amp. I took out, bypassed the system, used the blue 240 volt plugs and a dedicated supply, no more trouble. Big cooker fuse in the board too.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2019, 11:22:08 PM » |
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It's allways been a problem with this arc welder and my mig does it too.had a old one that ran ok.today the arc blew the fuse in the shed and the house in one go I reset them both then it ran for about half an hour with no problems.when I got it it didn't have a plug on it so just put a 13amp one on??
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2019, 11:26:35 PM » |
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I've got a 150 amp MIG that runs on a 13 amp plug with no problems. How big's your welder?
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2019, 10:42:53 PM » |
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It's 190amp I wanded if it was really too heavy to run off household and should get a smaller one I never run it cranked up anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2019, 12:26:41 PM » |
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Sounds that way doesn't it.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2019, 06:36:46 AM » |
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Just bought a little inverter welder no bigger than a shoe box but so far so good.it welds a little different to my Clarke one but will get used to it.thanks for your help.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2019, 07:27:08 PM » |
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Never quite understood what an inverter welder is. Basically an arc welder?
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2019, 10:34:05 PM » |
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It's a DC welder Mr M. The inverter electronically controls and converts the mains 240v. AC supply, to DC, then steps down that DC output to welding voltage. The smaller transformer used makes more compact, Morrag PS. Peewee, put a dedicated 30 amp supply for your earlier fuse blowing probs.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2019, 07:01:14 AM » |
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No just running it of 13 amp not had any problems as yet.it doesn't seem to need that surge to get it running.someone said to me that they have a tendency to cut out if you run them for a while but not had that problem yet.
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2019, 06:31:17 PM » |
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Yes Mr M it's an arc welder, but with a DC output. I was referring to your orig. Welder probs, Peewee, not the current toy😁 The initial "strike" current spike of your other, older, welders, appears to be your problem, and just a little high for your average 13 amp. Ring main, so, a dedicated supply of 16A upwards will sort it, Morrag.
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2019, 02:29:25 AM » |
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the old transformer welders have an "inrush current" which like Morrag says is much higher then its rating by 2 to 3 times.
the inverter will be a smoother output and input. but less "tough" as the electronics wrangling the angry pixies arent as bullet proof as the transformers.
inverters can be ac/dc too.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2019, 08:33:52 PM » |
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I always suspected there were pixies involved!
I used to be quite good at welding at one time & even went to night school with Mr Flap when we were building his trike cos he wanted to learn the ways of the weld. I haven't touched my own "Ol' Sparky" though since Loony & I finished the original build of my Pop, (I took a lot of parts home to Tanya's cottage & welded them in the garden shed).
I was starting to have trouble seeing the bead through the helmet & began to wear reading glasses soon after. Not sure I could weddle anything well these days!
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