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« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2018, 06:44:52 PM »

After washing the car today, it was so dirty with all the salt Derby Council has been plying on the roads, I ventured down the garages.

It was so cold I didn't stay long at all, freezing, or is it me getting older?
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« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2018, 07:26:00 PM »

I feel your pain mate. I've now got small camping heaters in each lock-up garage. They run on butane cylinders & are enough to take the chill off. I've also insulated the roof of the Pop garage with loft lagging. Again, doesn't make it warm, but definitely takes the edge off the cold.
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« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2018, 04:22:01 PM »

The garages have a plasterboard ceiling with access, I think a layer of insulation and a heater is the way to go.

Will only need to insulate one for working in.
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« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2018, 01:50:30 PM »

Good sunny day here in Derby, light breeze so feeling less cold than of late.

I have two garages next to each other.

Moved the Deauville into one after a good tidy up, long over due.

Now trike resides ib it's own space, should have done this ages ago. Had a box trailer in one garage, so took up all the space. Trailer now sold.

Now realise I have only 2 jobs left on the trike, fit mudguards and connect wiring. I am well on with the bracket stays for the mudguards and the wiring is run to a terminal box near axle. happy days.

On the down side, I forgot to remove battery. This is now connected to my oxford in the house, hope it not too far gone.

Could be MOT time soon for the trike.




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« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2018, 10:36:30 AM »

Hi Paul
What size wheels and tyres did you use on your trike ?
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« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2018, 01:24:11 PM »

Hi Merv

I have 17" Rover MG ZR Alloys, they came with new tyres 205/45/17 which is 21.26" diameter ( engine revs may be too high ). However not having the trike on the road yet, I don't know how these will fair with the 'A' axle.3.23 ratio.

Using the calculator on here for tyre sizes etc, these tyres would be better suited to a 'B' axle. 2.78 ratio.

Final drive on the Pan is 2.8333

Early days on this subject for me.I used this site for calculations. http://www.advanced-ev.com/Calculators/TireSize
May be better with 15" rims and tyres, but I'm not sure. Anyone help? 195/45/15 tyres give a diameter of 21.91"

Best info on the web puts the Pan at 3652 rpm @ 70 mph which equates to a 20.82" diameter tyre, 3.23 ratio axle diff.
Nearest tyre I can find is a 195/45/15, which is 21.91" diameter.
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« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2018, 04:54:33 PM »

On my gl1000. final diff at 2.4. I ran 205/55/15 wheels and tyres with a 2/78 diff and the revs were low about 3000 at 70 and sluggish .  change to a 3.23 made a big difference on performance and ride 3600 at 70 rpm the throttle was more responsive

On the gl1500 final diff at 2.8 I ran 205/55/15 wheels and tyres with a 2.78 diff and the revs were 3100 at 70 again the rpm didn't seam right but went well.
I changed the diff to a 3/23 that brought the rpm up to 3.700 at 70 better throttle response and ride

on the jag axle 3.05 the rpm is 3500 at 70 it shifts for a 450+ kg trike
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« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2018, 06:55:26 PM »

Hi Terry
I believe i have an A axle and Paul says the final drive on the pan is 2.8333, so on that information what wheel and tire size would you recommend
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« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2018, 07:31:39 PM »

Again Merv that's not an easy one to answer.
as a bike the wheel size is all sorted by the manufacture. so on the pan the rear wheel is app 655mm diameter and the diff of 2.88.
So looking that a trike will have more drag with that extra wheel and to keep the revs up to suit will be is I don't know what size wheels to use Huh

All I can say is on my 1500 which has the same final drive and very close gear ratios to the pan. I ran with a 3.23 reliant axle on 205/55/15 wheels with a 606mm diameter
and that rode and performed fine. so I would start with those sizes. some one may have a different opinion on wheel sizes and tyres 
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« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2018, 09:25:11 PM »

Thanks for your reply Terry, i shall get some wheels from the scrap yard to get started before i get the final ones for the trike. at least then ill have wheels for it to sit on  Cheesy. In the mean time i got enough to do sorting the swing arm  Grin. Meant to ask, are you able to make a bung for the prop ?.
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« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2018, 10:37:52 PM »

The difference in the calculator between Terry's 15" and my 17" is only 50 rpm, so pretty close.
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« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2018, 11:48:44 PM »

Hi Paul
Are you saying i should be alright with 15s because if so i already have a pair of  15s
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« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2018, 05:56:14 AM »

I would use the 15s, especially if you have already got a pair.

It's not so much the rim size, but the outside diameter of the tyre. What ever size you have can be tweaked later, if necessary.

Don't forget to post your pics. We MM's need pics, some of us find reading words makes us heads hurt.
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« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2018, 07:50:35 PM »

Like Paul said as you have 15s use them.
Is this what  you want Merv
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« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2018, 10:54:29 PM »

Hi Terry
Yes please
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