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« Reply #1020 on: July 14, 2016, 07:23:35 AM »

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Just purchased a set of 8" rear brakes from a mk2 Escort. The idea is to adapt these to fit the front axle so that the brakes will be self adusting yet still look period. Really wanted 9" ones as fitted to Capri and RS2000 but they now go for silly money. These should still be better than the originals.
They will need a full refurb but I will wait to see how the conversion goes before doing that.
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« Reply #1021 on: July 14, 2016, 07:58:00 AM »

I'm so glad I'm not doing these type of mods to cars/trikes etc now,but certainly enjoy your thread good sir Smiley
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« Reply #1022 on: July 14, 2016, 08:14:52 AM »

Thanks. Smiley
Oh it's so much fun trying to get a 80 year old vehicle design, to pass modern regs. not !
Hardest part is trying to keep everything looking like it has come from a pre war car, yet function like a modern one.

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« Reply #1023 on: July 14, 2016, 10:10:21 AM »

I keep looking in the mirror and think the same thing ? Sad
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« Reply #1024 on: July 15, 2016, 07:37:42 PM »

Hey sir. I have a question ..my trike has 3-54 gears in the axle, I'm running 26 tall tyres behind my little reliant engine/box ..do you think it's going to struggle for top end ?
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« Reply #1025 on: July 21, 2016, 07:34:48 PM »

Sorry sir, I've been away. 26" seems a bit tall for a 3.54 diff. When I was looking into doing a vintage style trike with 19" wheels (26.5" tyres) I figured that I would need the Regal 4.35:1 diff. (3.23:1 is a little high for 22.5" tyres but liveable with.)
Is that a Ford axle you have ?
26"   3.54:1    70 MPH = 3200 RPM.  So fourth would be more like an overdrive gear.

Started on the front brake conversion today. Luckily the existing bolt holes in the back plates are at 30 degrees to the new ones. No point in de rusting and painting anything untill (or if  Undecided) it works.
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« Reply #1026 on: July 22, 2016, 04:44:13 PM »

Front brakes continued.
Hub machined down to match the centre bore of the Ford drum and the drum redrilled to match the stud pattern of the hub.
As expected I will have to make a 1.6mm spacer to go behind the back plate. All appears to run true, so things seem to be going to plan. Cheesy
The brake drum isn't really as rusty as it looks. Actually it's in very good condition, I just hadn't cleaned all the crud off of the outside when I took the pics.
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« Reply #1027 on: July 22, 2016, 05:19:22 PM »

It's a jag axle...and you have a plan ? Don't plans go wrong ? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1028 on: July 22, 2016, 06:38:26 PM »

Don't plans go wrong ? Roll Eyes
Frequently. That, coupled with changing my mind on what I am going to do, means a very slow build. But it keeps me busy. Grin
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« Reply #1029 on: July 22, 2016, 09:07:46 PM »

Sorry I interrupted you this afternoon Dave, but looks like you still got plenty done.
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« Reply #1030 on: July 22, 2016, 09:30:19 PM »

You are always welcome around here Andy.
Started to modify the adjuster. Handbrake lever end cut off. Was contemplating having front parking brakes but it's a complication I don't need. Will need to lock the remaining section with a tack weld so I can check the width is correct, before welding it up fully.
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« Reply #1031 on: July 23, 2016, 01:15:24 AM »

You are always welcome around here Andy.
Started to modify the adjuster. Handbrake lever end cut off. Was contemplating having front parking brakes but it's a complication I don't need. Will need to lock the remaining section with a tack weld so I can check the width is correct, before welding it up fully.

ok but,,, how are you going to adjust as it wears the linings

that type of ford/bendix brake relie,s on h/brake use to adjust it

don,t realy want to throw a,,spanner,, in the works  but an expander from a land rover or dumper truck trans brake , in the place of the fixed shoe anchor point mabe the answer
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« Reply #1032 on: July 23, 2016, 05:39:54 AM »

The reason for changing the brakes is not to increase efficiency (a nice bonus) but to add the self adjusting feature. The original brakes had manual adjusters fitted.

The idea that the hand brake adjusts the brakes is a common misconception with this adjuster Mike. Pulling the HB lever section, increases the distance between the shoe levers, opening up the brake shoes but does nothing as far as the adusting ratchet is concerned. When the slave cylinder pushes out the shoes, it's the shoes themselves, pushing apart the levers, that operates the ratchet increasing the width between the levers when adjustment is needed.
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« Reply #1033 on: July 23, 2016, 10:53:46 AM »

Yes it works !  Grin
Not tried it with hydraulics but spreading the shoes as if done by the cylinder operates the adjuster perfectly. Grin
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« Reply #1034 on: July 23, 2016, 08:50:03 PM »

Glad that plan works then sir,well done Smiley
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