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The North
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« on: July 30, 2012, 09:07:28 PM »

I have been cleaning up a few parts for my   SCT trials car, my mate rolls up on his bike and as we are looking at the progress and generally yarning about, he mentions (quote) Why not use a battery charger and get rid of rust in salt water, i have heard some where you can.
    Well that as fatal and a good excuse to go indoors make some tea  and give it a coat of looking at on the tinternett.  Cool
    Absolute cart loads of youtube vids bits of threads on various yank and ausie hot rod forums mig welding uk site and others i cant remember.
  Anyhow i got an old storage container a five  gallons of water and 5 tablespoons of  washing soda the wife  gets from savers for  65p a KG, couple of lats and a bit of 2 core wire a old marlin u bolt and hung a A40 brake drum off a old coat hanger positive on the scrap and negative on the work  and switched on the battery charger.
    It works loads of rust bubbling about clan as a whistle like a dull blackish crud floating near the scrap metal.   Cool
 Seems i must be the only one in the world not to know about this.  Grin

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 09:14:17 PM »

Can we see some before & after photos?
You're not alone mate. I know about home plating, but not seen this before. Interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 09:25:13 PM »

 I am on the first brake drum and was not even sure it would work, when Trev went home i went for a spin on my XT and came back home full of enthusiasm and went and cobbled up that rig. so i will take some before and after pics tomorrow in daylight.  Loads of stuff on youtube about this method, and another youtube vid off an  Ausie hot rod lad sticking rusty panels in water and molasses that looked a good thing too, and on the same proses some Again an Aussie cleaning up a barbaque burnner, it looks alright that molasses idea. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 09:28:13 PM »

i,v heard about it,,,read about it,,,been told about it by someone that does it ,, threatenend to try it ,,,,but,,,as yet never done it ,,may be i ought to try it,, Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 10:04:56 PM »

This is that molasses method off that Aussie hot rod lad i was on about, this looks good to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZCFcxf5IBw&feature=player_detailpage
and another vid 2 ... same theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-gBAjEga1s&feature=player_detailpage
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 01:59:02 PM »

http://www.mankymonkeymotors.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9158.0
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 03:32:40 PM »

Blimey it is like a mirror image right down to the molasses  Grin
   By the way... I got some molasses lined up watch this space, i think that looks the best. but not sure yet. What i have done of the battery charger method is it leaves like a soft black surface stuff it wipes off dead easy like. Not anything like rust. I used a u bolt not ideal as i found out and you mention, will use a lump of plate from now on .
     See it was on here all the time why look any where else. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 05:37:31 AM »

lol i never did find that link. i work in a bottling plant and one of the guys spilt some phosphoric acid on his bunch
just whiping it up took most of the surface rust off his bench
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 09:28:01 AM »

Yes been looking at phosphoric acid from an outfit in Goole north Humberside was about 17 quid for 5 litres was  cheaper for 20 litre though  50 quid.
  Molasses looks good to me 7 quid for 5 litre and will knock a quid off per 5 litre for anything over 15 litre.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 09:47:01 AM »

Before and after .. About half an hour with the charger method. that black stuff is like a softish carbon sort of stuff  scrapes off with your nail. If you clean stuff off and give it another go it comes out cleaner each time, oil old paint etc holds back the proses some what.

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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 06:21:23 PM »

That's quite impressive. Looks as effective as wire brushing & certainly a lot less effort.
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 07:53:12 PM »

The charger method is effective to a point, if you set up a few things and a tidy suspension frame so items surround the scrap metal you could clean a lot of fiddly bits no effort at all and no abrasion. That soft black stuff you could shift with a brass brush and stick it back in for another half hour, it gets clean then. I will stick that clutch fork back in and post some more pics once that black stuff is off.. 
    Next up Molasses  Smiley I have great hopes for this method.  Then don't go thinking we are done oh no its Phosphoric acid after this .
   


The next stuff up this ....  Molasses .....7 quid for 5 litre know where i can get it cheaper give us a yell. 

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2012, 09:22:14 PM »

Got the malasses rust removing up and going last night, found this an old drill stand looked ok for tests, and some other bits and bobs added to the mix latter. Three guesses what it mixed in . Grin Grin
Long wait now though a week or even three.perhaps. Smiley

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2012, 09:44:55 PM »

Taz uses Molasses at her stable yard, but I'm not actually sure what it is -a sort of thick treacle isn't it?
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2012, 10:18:56 PM »

 Yea that's about it, totally harmless, we have used it on occasion for winter store cattle, that's how i knew where to get it straight off.  As that aussie lad on the video link says  it pongs a bit so wear gloves.
 Marmite as molasses and the kids eat crates of the stuff so must be ok  Grin   
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