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RODeo
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« on: December 28, 2011, 09:23:08 PM »

After seeing the TRIKING trike (2 front wheels,one driven rear wheel,morgan lookalike) at the MSVA place,I looked on u tube where there ar a few vids of this type of thing,it got me thinking.........
  s'pose Im going a lot deeper into the bike thing of which I know naff all,by using a bike engine. Im thinking something like a Locost type (2 seats side by side( front half of chassis with a bike engine in rear behind seats ,chain driven,with suspension swing arm at the rear,single rear wheel.Obviously theres a lot more to it than that..........
 Which bike engines are available reasonably cheap and have grunt (and easy on the pocket for spares?)
 Would a stock width bike tyre have enough grip(footprint?) for the weight it has to push,or should it have a wider tyre,and therefore a custom hub using the existing bikes sprocket and disc(s)?
Would it have to have some sort of stronger or double chain to take the strain from pushing the weight?
 Im assuming cheaper to buy a whole bike to get all the odds and sods?
If using the existing bike tyre,could I use the orig swing arm?
 Dont know whether this will all come to fruition,but you never know!
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 10:51:48 PM »

you would get a better footprint by using a car tire as you would have more contact than a bike tire that is rounded on the sides  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 11:07:50 PM »

Why use chain,It's a lot more work. if you use a shafty you could use the complete rear end off donor bike.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 12:08:04 AM »

mmmmm  MMMMMMM   mmmmmmmmmm  lets keep thinkin,,,, Wink
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 12:12:11 AM »

why not use a fwd car? much cheaper on parts.
rear wheel is just a caster then
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 07:40:25 AM »

BigD ,thats what I was thinking.
Yeah,did think of that myself Chewie,but saw a couple on the net and they looked very bulky at the front. Im looking for a sleek low look.The reason I mentioned Locost type front of chassis was that I may be able to source a part finished Locost project . There seem to be a few around for sale,where people have given up. Or p'raps not,as they probably aint been built square anyway! The A-arms and suspension are easy to build theres plenty of info,and stuff out there.
 Hunter,I did think of the whole rearend idea ,but I think it will need a beefed up trailing arm with wider apart pivot points to take the cornering strain. Was thinking I could copy all the mounts and positions of the bike frame/engine mounts onto the new chassis,so that it didnt look a 'bitsa'.The shaft drive is a good one,(still in go kart mode =chain and sprockets Grin) I can see that the shaft drive would save a lot of time,but would I be able to get a wider hub/tyre on there with the clearances of the shaft down the side of the tyre? Looks like this may call for a visit to a bike breakers for a shufty at the different types ! OOPS! here we go again!
Im thinking 2x1 box bottom rail all round the perimeter of the body,cut off square behind seats. This would make an easy mounting for the trailing arm and also the bottom front a-arms. On top of this rail would be round tube which would sort of be the top rail of the body perimeter,spaced about 12/18 inches up.A roll hoop as part of the seat back frame.Seats from shaped f/glass. All a bit sketchy ,but you never know...........
 One last thing for now..I would need a water cooled bike? What cc do you reckon?Are there some with easier to adapt gear change mechanisms?
 Hmmm...... all very interesting!Keep the comments coming please!!
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 10:28:17 AM »

4wd subarru locking the rear diff and using one side to drive the rear, 3 wheel drive!
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 05:36:24 PM »

Can't offer much help, but here's a few snaps of some of three wheelers that can be found at NHCA (National Hillclimb Association) events, and these machines have to get the power down and handle!

http://www.nhca.co.uk/Pictures/Trikes/Trikes.htm

Engine wise - if you want strong and powerful, worth thinking along the lines of Suzuki GSXRs or or maybe Kawasaki Zs, and maybe check out what the hill climb and drag folk use.

Grinall make/made (?) a three wheeler powered by a BMW K series engine
http://www.grinnallcars.com/scorpion-III-sports-car-specification.html

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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2011, 06:50:17 PM »

Thanks for those Tony!
Also just found out that the Locost builders site has a build section on this type of 3 wheelers as well .Looks like I got a lot of reading and viewing to do!
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2012, 08:30:02 PM »

Now found lots of info from various sites. All very interesting and also very confusing..the choices of powerplant etc are endless! Grin

 Think I'm going to change tack slightly ,still 3 wheeled ,but very basic old styling.. Still researching it,will let y'all know the outcome of my research.
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2012, 08:55:30 PM »

Hi.I dont own a trike but,I would suggest something good and powerful....Hayabusa, gsxr thou, R1,Blackbird or kawasaki zzr.Only problem is,is that they are chain driven,but theres plenty of websites to show you how to get round that.Or you could probably go another way and use a shaft drive engine with a little less power. Kawasaki gtr1000, any big bmw flat twin or the bmw k series engine which is a triple.   
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2012, 05:01:01 PM »

All powerful engines,and thats the problem..so confusing! All too much high techiness for me! And also very expensive !So heres my plan............... Im now going to build (if Im allowed! ...*looks around to see if SWMBO is watching me type*  Grin A  VELOREX ..cant do links 'n' stuff,so google it! Its a chekoslovack/russian fabric bodied car(trike) from around the 50's. Not fancy and quite ugly to the point of being cute!(well thats how my missus describes me) ,but could be fun chugging along!Always fancied open top again after my Locost! Its dead easy,3 wheeled so only MSVA,and only requires a cheapish 250cc or so engine,plus I've only got to make it look loosely like the real thing,so plenty of scope for c**k ups!. My prob at the moment is researching sliding pillar front suspension!I need this to keep the track narrow,and cheap! I found that the early Robin Hood 2b cars had it ,and a lot of owners are swapping to wishbone type,so may be lucky finding summat.
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2012, 07:42:14 PM »

Erm, have you considered a Reliant engine?
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2012, 08:07:27 PM »

Ok, ive just looked at the velorex......hhhmmmm. On google images,type in  citroen 2cv three wheeler. Yet another alternative.
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2012, 08:19:30 PM »

I looked at a lot of 2cv based stuff and like some. Then I looked at prices for 2cv base vehicles and the project cost went way out of my league!
 Im hooked on that Velorex now!Its quirky and will be real cheap to do . Making serious enquiries about the front susp. Going to get most of the bits together before starting the build,so could take a while to collect everything..at least a couple of weeks  Grin Grin
 Reliant engine would mean a totally different concept .
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