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Title: Possibility of “banning the use of tyres over 10 years old” – some clarity Post by: Tony oily bike on October 17, 2019, 01:03:09 PM Chatting to some old boys at a bike shop dealing with old/oily/rusty British bikes the other day, one of the ‘greys’ started a conversation (rumour mill?) relating to the banning of tyres over 10 years of age for motorcycles.
A little bit of interweb research gave a bit of clarity as to what’s actually going on (at least for the time being!!) There’s been a consultation (now closed) to consider banning the use of tyres over 10 years old on large goods vehicles, buses, coaches and minibuses. https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/banning-tyres-aged-10-years-and-older Here’s some info from the FBHVC (Federation of Historic Vehicle Clubs) which, in IMHP, is worth a read (see page 3). https://www.fbhvc.co.uk/storage/downloads/newsletter/50/FBHVC_News_05_19.pdf With luck, the above might make things appear a little clearer............... ;) Title: Re: Possibility of “banning the use of tyres over 10 years old” – some clarity Post by: Manky Monkey on October 17, 2019, 02:13:13 PM I wonder if that's all commercial vehicles -including Ford Pop pick-ups?
Title: Re: Possibility of “banning the use of tyres over 10 years old” – some clarity Post by: Olds on October 17, 2019, 04:42:11 PM Don't think the Pop comes under the category of large commercial.
Title: Re: Possibility of “banning the use of tyres over 10 years old” – some clarity Post by: Manky Monkey on October 17, 2019, 09:11:41 PM No. True :)
Title: Re: Possibility of “banning the use of tyres over 10 years old” – some clarity Post by: Tony oily bike on October 18, 2019, 10:12:52 AM Me thinks the clue as to what the document covers is in the Consultation Description.
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/banning-tyres-aged-10-years-and-older "Consultation description The Department for Transport is seeking views on a proposed ban on tyres aged 10 years and older from certain vehicle types, to improve road safety. We want to introduce regulations that ban the use of tyres aged 10 years and older from: • heavy goods vehicles • heavy trailers • buses, coaches and minibuses We are also seeking views and evidence on whether to introduce a similar maximum age for tyres fitted to taxis and private hire vehicles." Title: Re: Possibility of “banning the use of tyres over 10 years old” – some clarity Post by: Tony oily bike on October 18, 2019, 10:35:58 AM To add a bit of background as to why there’s been a consultation.
A campaign was started following a coach crash on the A3 in Surrey (near Hindhead) in 2012, which was caused by the failure of a 19-year-old tyre on a coach’s front axle. Three people in the coach died. http://www.tyred.org.uk/problem#step-1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-18976092 Title: Re: Possibility of “banning the use of tyres over 10 years old” – some clarity Post by: BikerGran on October 18, 2019, 08:11:40 PM My daughter had a tyre fail on her Merc Sprinter campervan, on the Woodhead pass which is not a good place to get a flat. Turned out the tyre was over 10 years old and she had no idea, either that the tyre was that age, or that it mattered.
Title: Re: Possibility of “banning the use of tyres over 10 years old” – some clarity Post by: Tony oily bike on October 19, 2019, 02:08:23 PM The Gov consultation document (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/812495/older-tyres-consultation-document.pdf ) includes a statement that says they have have commissioned specific research to explore the link between age and tyre integrity.
Here’s the finding of that research,(a report by the TRL Ltd) titled “Tyre ageing: its effect on material properties and structural integrity.” Its over 200 pages (so may take a while to digest the findings! ::)) but page 104 of the PDF report identifies what the aim of the study was (and it relates to commercial vehicle tyres) The report also says that a review of already published literature revealed that most previous testing, relating to tyres and ageing effects, had been conducted on passenger car and light goods tyres. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tyre-ageing-its-effect-on-material-properties-and-structural-integrity Guessing (note – guessing) that if the findings of the previously conducted reviews (relating to tyres and ageing effects for passenger car and light goods tyres.) had concluded these ‘old’ tyres should be banned, then Jo Public would have been aware of it.................??? MoT info https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-parts-checked-at-an-mot/car-parts-checked-at-an-mot MoT inspection manual for cars and passenger vehicles etc (section 5.2 for wheels and tyres) https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles |