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Technical Section => HotRod Tech => Topic started by: Olds on July 13, 2018, 11:23:03 AM



Title: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: Olds on July 13, 2018, 11:23:03 AM
Spotted on a well known auction site a Series 1 Land Rover that's not !
To build just like it ...
Take an old Range Rover chassis. Cut and shut it to make it shorter. Find a late model Land rover engine and a 1970's gearbox. Assemble then fit  Series one body panels on top. Pretend it's a 1950's Series one as far as DVLA are concerned (registration,tax exempt etc.) Then sell for lots of money.
BTW this is a fresh build, being sold by a long established motor dealer who must know how iffy this is.


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: The North on July 13, 2018, 11:44:19 AM
Land rovers are truly a nightmare in every way imaginable, Such or similar vehicles have been doing the rounds for close to 4 decades now.
  Some are more covert in nature than others, but some are blatantly obvious, and some look remarkably New EVERYWHERE, and being a sceptic i tend to think the worst of such vehicles. 


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 13, 2018, 12:23:18 PM
You can buy brand new galvanised chassies for Land Rovers. I'm sure people must build a vehicle up on those without even thinking about re-registering.


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: Olds on July 13, 2018, 01:10:32 PM
You can buy brand new galvanised chassies for Land Rovers.
Generally that's considered OK and re registering is not required as long as the chassis is made to the original design, for that model, which most from reputable companies are.

A very simple check on Series Land Rovers is, does it have leaf springs. If it has coil springs, which many have,  then it's a wrong'un.


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 13, 2018, 09:37:03 PM
Isn't the vehicle identity in the chassis then?


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: Olds on July 14, 2018, 07:20:09 AM
Yes and it can be a bit of a minefield when changing the chassis.
Not checked recently but DVLA never were consistent on procedure. For peace of mind you can tell the DVLA of the change but.... ::)
Replacement of like for like parts means that the original registration can be retained.  "Chassis, monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit) or frame - original or new and unmodified (direct from manufacturer)"
 There was some debate on whether the manufacturer had to be the original manufacturer of the vehicle, but that's not explicitly stated. 
 I heard of at least one manufacturer who would stamp a new chassis with the original chassis number if given proof of ownership.



Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: paulywombats on July 14, 2018, 12:32:38 PM
There is some very dodgy characters out there, tis a good job we is all onest ure onur.

"send him down 10 years in the scrubs"


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 14, 2018, 12:42:25 PM
 :) When Taz & I were rebuilding her '69 Charger & replacing every single body panel, (it was a monocoque), we often wondered at what point it would stop being the original vehicle.


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: stinkey on July 15, 2018, 07:18:00 AM
Soon has you change the broom handle methinks ? ::)


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 15, 2018, 01:39:58 PM
 :)


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: spanners on July 17, 2018, 10:39:25 PM
:) When Taz & I were rebuilding her '69 Charger & replacing every single body panel, (it was a monocoque), we often wondered at what point it would stop being the original vehicle.

When you cut the giggling pin of the lavvy shaft


Title: Re: How not to rebody a vehicle.
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 18, 2018, 02:55:10 AM
 :)