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Technical Section => HotRod Tech => Topic started by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:04:47 PM



Title: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:04:47 PM
Evening all, firstly I need thank Nick Conner, Gareth Kent, Chris Thomas and Jamie McCloed-Ross for their assistance with this project as I know it would all be a pipe dream without them.
So being recently single and time on my hands in 2013 I started messing about with foam in lounge( like you do ) and ended up with a full size bellytank 12ft10" by 36". Only have one picture of that at the moment but the lounge/house was full of bits of foam but as it was only me and the dog, who cares.
Eventually the foam body was moved to my lockup in two halves and placed on a level base where it was decided to add another 12" to the length after Gareth had CAD drawn it with some known components we intended on using.
12 Large tubs of body filler  later (£48 for 3 @reading paints) and about 6 months it was done. Thanks to Jamie ( BWM Ribs ) who came to the lockup and laid up the fibreglass for me resulting in 1 mold which was the moved to Jamies workshop.
A few days later and I had 2 halves of a tank, and yes I still have the mold and can make more. Then the two halves where moved back to my lockup by Scottie while I collected the rest of the parts.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/002_zps9pnfnyri.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:06:31 PM

Being covered in gelcoat
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/006_zpstpcxxkfv.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:08:35 PM

Mold back at Jamies with gelcoat inside
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/021_zps3mmpv67j.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:10:55 PM

Jamie laying up first layer of 300 followed by two off 600
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/028_zpswkp1yo77.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:12:12 PM

Laid up and curing
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/031_zpsdfxrmxs2.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:14:36 PM

First one popped out.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/036_zpsq6eglei4.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:19:10 PM


First one out and the 'Dag' which has a major impact on this project at a later date.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/041_zps0bu67f9z.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:20:31 PM

And then there was two.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/052_zpsox9enozi.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on October 08, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/037_zps7tbtvgca.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/037_zps7tbtvgca.jpg.html)

Got very excited at this point
Looks like your making a blue whale ( submarine ?) ::)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:23:35 PM


Back in my lockup.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Odds/070_zps29neatxs.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 06:54:45 PM


Quick mock up and the realisation this is going to be a bit different.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Odds/074_zpsb6buhkik.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 08, 2016, 08:33:38 PM
Maybe it looks like a whale on Porpoise?
I've only worked with fibreglass once & ended up wearing most of it -for about a week. Horrible, sticky, stinky, scratchy stuff. I have the utmost admiration for anyone that can actually create something useful from it. That's quite a deep looking belly tank -looks more like a road going one that a racing one  :) I wonder whether that'd be feasible through BIVA?
Was the lounge full of polystyrene the reason you were suddenly single?  :D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 08, 2016, 10:06:34 PM
When you watch someone who works with fibreglass all day and has the right tools, brushes and acetone and waxes it can actually be quite a clean process. The tank only measures about 35" tall and the tyres are about 29" but the design does involve a flat bottom anyway. As for the foam round the house, I think I enjoyed it as the ex was super house proud so I was maybe rebelling a bit. Even to this day I can still hoover up the odd bit 3 years later.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 08, 2016, 10:09:33 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Olds on October 09, 2016, 07:30:19 AM
Something completely different ! Great.
Maybe it looks like a whale on Porpoise?
 I wonder whether that'd be feasible through BIVA?
;D ;D ;D
See no reason why not. Always thought a drop-tank tadpole trike could look neat.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: poprodder on October 09, 2016, 07:58:02 AM
When you watch someone who works with fibreglass all day and has the right tools, brushes and acetone and waxes it can actually be quite a clean process. The tank only measures about 35" tall and the tyres are about 29" but the design does involve a flat bottom anyway. As for the foam round the house, I think I enjoyed it as the ex was super house proud so I was maybe rebelling a bit. Even to this day I can still hover up the odd bit 3 years later.

i worked with it for 25yrs. as you say, it can be a nice clean process. main thing is  having a big bucket of acetone, a nice wetting out board, and let the materials do most of the work not yourself. anyone with long term experience  will understand that last bit.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 08:49:23 AM
So, we have a tank and some wheels. Wheels are from an old taxi with the hubcap mounts removed and powder coated by Tom from Arndale coatings. Tyres and inner tubes from Northants Tyres and possibly the most expensive I have ever brought.
Now the name D72 = because our trabant is D71 and British Bellytank as I will be using mainly parts we had or can source locally. Now this is NOT being built to go to the states as it will not comply at all ( rollcage mainly ) nor can it be used at Pendine as non period correct parts used, we just want to build one.  Basic rules are it must look as close to a 40's 50's tank and be built in the spirit of the days, ie using what you have to hand. No big budget here.
First part found 1 sherpa front axle

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Odds/082_zpsmjqauxtp.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 08:50:36 AM

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Odds/080_zpsja0cmnqr.jpg)
1 sherpa rear axle.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 08:55:01 AM

Next you need these two, Nick and Gareth. Oh and a fully equipped workshop and some Gin.



(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Odds/100_zpsxuvpp8yq.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 09:00:45 AM
The first cut, marked up by inclining the body 3 degrees and using a laser level to remove 2" from the height.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body%20Cuts/453_zpsws3nmq7j.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body%20Cuts/101_zpsrlh0yh5b.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 09:05:34 AM

Resulting in this, a body at the right centre line height ( will be trimmed even more ).

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body%20Cuts/102_zpskut7vbf9.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 09:11:13 AM

Cut outs for rear axle as far back as possible, bottom of diff just about touching body.  Would have liked to go further back but diff would have been seen from the rear and that was not  allowed (by me)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body%20Cuts/104_zpssyxtgsxa.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 09:11:54 AM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body%20Cuts/105_zps9tx9hjdn.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 09:16:34 AM

Front axle in with tyres lining up with end of nose, and then we had our true wheel base. Was only about 2" short of Gareths CAD drawing. I think my real world hand made body is not as true as the computers

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body%20Cuts/107_zpsgr8wjomp.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 09, 2016, 09:24:16 AM
Liking the look of that already.
I've got a Sherpa axle & taxi cab wheels on the back of my Pop.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 11:07:45 AM
If  it fits and works, use it, may not be period correct but don't care. Had a complete Ford pop front end to use but turned out to be too narrow so used sherpa front aswell including calipers which fitted the taxi wheels. If they stop a sherpa we should be fine and every part is easy to replace. Andy I think the Pop front end went to your brother Steve who needed the spindles ?

Kev.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: poprodder on October 09, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
great ideas and nice work.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 07:17:38 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body/123_zpst9pvmf0x.jpg)
Popped the other half on for a better idea. Flange is about 4" at the moment will be reduced to 1.25" at later date.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 07:20:16 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body/122_zps9qtva3a3.jpg)
Nice view from front.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 09, 2016, 07:32:35 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/DSCF1566_zpssunul5fd.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/DSCF1566_zpssunul5fd.jpg.html)

Engine wise it had to be a Rover V8, which is handy as we had this to hand. Believed to be a 4.0l from a TVR and a BW65 gearbox  because Gareth had one. Engine has been rebuilt with far too many expensive parts when compared to the SBC we use in the Trabant


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 09, 2016, 07:50:50 PM
Nice combo :) Looks great from the front.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 10, 2016, 08:32:46 PM

Some of the first concept drawings by Gareth. Not all measurements were known at this time.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/287_zpsrbdrjzgq.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/292_zpsaszh3zxi.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/296_zpseokzcmbs.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/297_zpsf5lelux3.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/298_zpsvkhjysgt.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/299_zpsxuwefttg.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/308_zpspc1vnygw.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/309_zpsxrgj6g7a.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/311_zpsl8c4czwh.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20CAD/312_zpsvjv2cy6o.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 10, 2016, 08:51:50 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20chassis/Belly%20tank%20promo%203_zpsruycsfto.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20chassis/Belly%20tank%20promo%203_zpsruycsfto.jpg.html)


Bit more info fed into the model. I have no idea how this stuff  works, I fit security systems / carpets for a living and have an absolute hatred for Pc's or smart phones.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 10, 2016, 09:06:11 PM
Same here. My phone's smarter than I am. Clever stuff though isn't it.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: BikerGran on October 11, 2016, 04:58:13 PM
Reminds me a little of my brother's A7 Special.......



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 11, 2016, 11:16:05 PM
Now that I like, one day maybe..


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:17:52 PM

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/696_zpsapq53l1a.jpg)

Found some earlier pics of the buck being made before molding.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:21:26 PM


(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/695_zpsbjhp0jas.jpg)
The first part I purchased here the centre pivot steering rack.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:24:05 PM

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/154_zpss4o1f5de.jpg)

Laying up the mold


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:26:07 PM

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Mold/180_zps0oaqojp5.jpg)

And the end result before moving to Jamies workshop.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/383_zpsc6qgbwqn.png)
Now having never built a bellytank before or knowing anyone who had, the internet came up with this example.
Seemed the simplest way without using hoops for the chassis as many others had done. So this was used as a rough guide as not wanting/taking credit for someone else,s design.
Purchased 18mtrs of 1"5/8 cds for safety cell and 1"1/2 for the rest.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:47:58 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/379_zpsyq6gmyuj.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/382_zpsovs2ijta.jpg)

Bolted engine, gearbox and axle together so we could check the distance from floor to bottom of sump and to the bottom of the rear axle. Then made mounts on the chassis jig to hold axle and engine at the correct height.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:50:00 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/416_zpsg99bw23h.jpg)
Setting up on chassis jig.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:52:45 PM

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/644_zpsgeq6djd2.jpg)
Bottom tubes for safety cell.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:54:54 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/612_zpsj8tx4w48.jpg)

Bottom tube kicking up towards rear axle.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 03:59:43 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/617_zpsqtqkww6u.jpg)
And other side, here you can see the engine mounted to the jig and the rear axle supports. Loads of measuring and double checking to get them in position and then build the frame around them.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 04:03:26 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/616_zpsdsedxz8d.jpg)

Gearbox was also mounted to the chassis jig as seen here.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 04:06:30 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/IMG_52132_zpsczzu4efz.jpg)
Safety cell taking shape.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 04:09:02 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF1447_zpsvqmkjhzr.jpg)
A few braces and the rear tubes behind the seat in place.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 04:11:14 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF1448_zpstscwt6mr.jpg)
Safety cell almost finished but for the roll hoop.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 04:20:11 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20chassis/DSCF1450_zpsbnzeplrt.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20chassis/DSCF1450_zpsbnzeplrt.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 06:49:21 PM

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF1449_zpscvernurd.jpg)
Side view, tops of rear frame to do in the same style as front section.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 06:51:58 PM
One side done.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/IMG_52722_zpssa4cvqnh.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 06:53:05 PM
And the other almost done.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/IMG_52762_zpsy8czjpsj.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 16, 2016, 06:59:21 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF1497_zpsm37leywh.jpg)
Machined up a spacer for gearbox and re-drilled input flange on gearbox to match the sherpa diff so every thing is aligned. Somehow this picture makes the temp bolts look wrong but it is perfectly true.
Now we can start with the engine, gearbox and axle mounts.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 16, 2016, 07:24:22 PM
Just the kind of behind the scenes info we like to see.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 18, 2016, 09:34:12 AM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF1488_zpsbdshsgto.jpg)

Offside engine mount.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 18, 2016, 09:36:08 AM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF1496_zpstvi44dou.jpg)

A bit rough at the moment but will be cleaned up before painting.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 18, 2016, 06:49:37 PM
I called in on my brother Steve at his workshop in Wiltshire today. Dave was there too, ("The Ferret" altered? -the guy who broke his foot earlier this season when he ran it over while pushing the car). Steve's building a new rollcage for "Oblivion", the Avenger bodied funny car at the moment. They both said to say Hi.  ;)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 18, 2016, 07:23:10 PM
We were pitted next to Dave that weekend, possibly the weirdest accident ever - run over by your own car!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 18, 2016, 07:56:34 PM
 :o


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Tony oily bike on October 19, 2016, 01:01:29 PM
I called in on my brother Steve at his workshop in Wiltshire today. Dave was there too, ("The Ferret" altered? -the guy who broke his foot earlier this season when he ran it over while pushing the car). Steve's building a new rollcage for "Oblivion", the Avenger bodied funny car at the moment. They both said to say Hi.  ;)

Side trackin from the thread for a moment  ::) - remember Oblivion from way back...... UKDRN have a thread with a few pics
http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=142&start=56


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 19, 2016, 06:32:06 PM
That's the one. At my brother's 'shop for a new rollcage & a few alterations cos it's a bight of a tight fit for the current owner.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 19, 2016, 09:02:10 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF1492_zpsstzevnmg.jpg)

Gearbox mount, will have additional bracing on bracket when final welding is done.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 19, 2016, 09:05:32 PM
And rear axle mount, bit more welding required.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF1493_zpsur0xx9rz.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 19, 2016, 09:08:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Log1nea.jpg)
Front spring mount, shocks and steering rack in place.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 19, 2016, 09:43:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/udIY2SW.jpg)
Spring mounts in place, one of the few items we brought as making from scratch seemed a ball ache. Almost ready to see if chassis will fit inside the body.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 19, 2016, 10:03:58 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/F0n4Qto.jpg)
Wheels on.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 19, 2016, 10:05:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2wAh2I1.jpg)
So  far so good, we have lift off.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 19, 2016, 10:11:25 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/Ze6CTp7.jpg)
And touch down, and the first problem. The spring compressed so much the bottom of the shocks are now touching the top of the axle (Poo) so shocks will have to be repositioned.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 20, 2016, 09:25:53 AM
Same set-up as my Pop. I've got the original wish bone, split in half to make radius arms, attached through the spring mounts. Morris Minor rear lever arms, (stiffer than the front ones), on the side of the chassis with drop links to the radius arms.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 20, 2016, 12:16:46 PM
Had to read that twice to picture it my head, but I think its the same sort of set up we changed to. My terminology of parts is a bit vague as I really have no clue mechanically about what parts are really called, but am learning. ;D

Kev. 


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:07:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vTeI3iq.jpg)

So front end needed modifying but we tested the fit of the chassis inside the body while off the jig.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:10:17 AM

(http://i.imgur.com/xmKa9WI.jpg)
Top on, all fitting so far.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:13:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/DlJND3I.jpg)

Back to the front end. Had to rethink the front end as we only get one chance to drill holes in the body so left that till later.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:20:23 AM

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body%20Cuts/IMG_6244_zpszclr7tde.jpg)
With the top on roughly and knowing where the seat would now be we marked out a possible hole and then cut away the minimum required to at least get an idea for the height of the roll hoop behind driver.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:35:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/kskZC2U.jpg)

Top off and the roll hoop in place.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:46:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Klw6uyu.jpg)

With the hoop in and body back on we could now start the spine.
Made a very thin section of the body and placed over the main body before marking out with tape the rough idea of what we wanted.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:48:16 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Sq3ZMJF.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:49:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/1dJAPYg.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:52:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/qCuNqb2.jpg)

All planned, just need to make out of something.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Olds on October 22, 2016, 09:33:14 AM
Nice progress. Loving it.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 22, 2016, 10:50:52 AM
Looking great guys. I was wondering what you were doing about cooling, but see you've got a rad' laid on top of the gearbox. I kinda assumed you'd leave the bottom of the body open & lay the rad' flat underneath -obviously it'd be very vulnerable but it ain't exactly a road going vehicle, (it'd be cool if it was though). Will you be adding scoops to that new section of body?
And a motor plate between those spinning pulleys & the back of your head might be nice :)

Here's an ali' bodied 'tank racer I saw at the Rockin' Jalopys show in Holland in 2014.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on October 22, 2016, 12:01:42 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Belltank%20chassis%20mods/IMG_6244_zpsyju3pskf.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Belltank%20chassis%20mods/IMG_6244_zpsyju3pskf.jpg.html)

With the top on roughly and knowing where the seat would now be we marked out a possible hole and then cut away the minimum required to a least get and idea for the height of the roll hoop behind driver.
Where did you get that HEAD from ? Will that be your HEADLIGHT ? ::)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 01:43:47 PM
Cheers chaps, we were going to fit a rad underneath between the rails but clearance would have been tight and vulnerable, so next best place was above gearbox. A plate will be going across the seat back by the pulleys  for my own piece of mind after we have worked out the 5 point harness mounts. Everything from the firewall forward will be enclosed under the seat. Will post pics of the rest after the spine.
If there are too many pics or you see anything wrong/stupid please do say.

Kev.

 


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Tony oily bike on October 22, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
Been quietly watching this build from the side lines, and am finding it really interesting, partly from a tech perspective and partly as its properly different.

Have to say am also impressed by the rate of progress, keep up the good work!  ;)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:41:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GhIxdxF.jpg)

To make the spine I used a different method this time, instead of polystyrene I used a sheet of insulation this time as I discovered the insulation did not react with the filler, so no sealing with PVA before filling.
Used a bread knife to cut rough shapes before sticking on with 'sticks like s**t'. Honest.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:44:33 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/U7DohVj.jpg)
Way more than needed, but easier to remove now than add with filler later.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:45:57 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1563_zps3ccrimbl.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1563_zps3ccrimbl.jpg.html)

First sanding.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:47:08 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1564_zpshk66orzm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1564_zpshk66orzm.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:48:43 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1574_zpsxgpnxekh.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1574_zpsxgpnxekh.jpg.html)

Slowly reducing the rear taper but still not right.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:49:23 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1576_zpsg8rksmkj.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1576_zpsg8rksmkj.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:52:53 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1581_zps57dpcw4l.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1581_zps57dpcw4l.jpg.html)

This is the line I wanted to achieve, nice flow into the body. Now to cover in body butter (filler) and start sanding again.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:55:56 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1588_zps2uw6edak.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1588_zps2uw6edak.jpg.html)

Plod plod plod....


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 04:57:52 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1597_zps3a2wgnhc.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1597_zps3a2wgnhc.jpg.html)

Much sanding later.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 05:10:42 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1611_zpsy5gssorl.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1611_zpsy5gssorl.jpg.html)

Gave it a coat of grey paint before waxing and polishing 8 times. The paint was more as a guide for laying up the fibreglass.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 05:12:40 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1610_zps3d241mli.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1610_zps3d241mli.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 07:52:46 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1613_zpsa958lyxp.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1613_zpsa958lyxp.jpg.html)

Jamie came by the workshop and 30 mins later done. No gel goat  used in this mould, as you don't really need it for the mould only the part your making. Left it to cure for a couple of days.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 07:53:48 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1614_zps4sqzresf.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1614_zps4sqzresf.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on October 22, 2016, 08:03:24 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1615_zpsxvsdwhag.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20spine/DSCF1615_zpsxvsdwhag.jpg.html)

A couple of days later we we popped the mould of and trimmed up the edges leaving flange larger than the actual part needed.
And then once again just like the body which I had spent months shaping by hand we smashed up the buck and the temp body section and threw it in the bin.
After a tidy up placed the mould on the body to see what it may look like.
I think Mr Conner needs a booster seat. ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 22, 2016, 08:36:49 PM
 ;D And maybe a little less toe-in at the front. Looks fantastic. Make it road legal!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 01:29:44 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6177_zps4scrkend.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6177_zps4scrkend.jpg.html)

So, back to the front end. Had a problem with shocks being here as they hit the axle when the front spring compressed under the weight the first time it came off the jig.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 01:32:49 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6174_zpsxvrpt9b8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6174_zpsxvrpt9b8.jpg.html)

And moving the shocks out of the way of the axle will then affect the steering rack mounted up top here.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/DSCF1505_zpshpot1cel.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/DSCF1505_zpshpot1cel.jpg.html)

Decided to work on something else for a while, front hairpin mounts. Used the original Sherpa shock mount cut in half, rotated 90 degrees and welded back together. Mocked up with a couple of rose joints and ali tube.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 01:46:14 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6165_zpsoberzo6u.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6165_zpsoberzo6u.jpg.html)

Gareth machined up this end for the hairpins and then realised we needed 9 more. Cheers bud.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 01:49:08 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6172_zpsozopn6mp.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6172_zpsozopn6mp.jpg.html)

Parts needed for front hairpins, just need tube between them.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 01:51:12 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6208_zpslzds8srs.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_6208_zpslzds8srs.jpg.html)

First hairpin made, way longer than needed at the moment.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 02:04:18 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_66002_zpsin3426wk.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_66002_zpsin3426wk.jpg.html)

Once the hairpins were made a lot happened really quickly. The shocks got moved to new brackets behind the centre line of the axle, which then connect to mounts on top off the hairpin brackets and the steering rack was moved to the bottom of the front end which was better as you can rest your feet over it.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 02:08:11 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_63582_zps0kpxm5rs.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/IMG_63582_zps0kpxm5rs.jpg.html)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 02:18:34 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/DSCF1540_zpsigzwpi1v.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/DSCF1540_zpsigzwpi1v.jpg.html)

Brakes. Made a bracket for master cylinder?? which is mounted directly above the steering column as it is dead space and we are running out of that quickly.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 02:25:11 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/DSCF1541_zpsrvxjrpqv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/DSCF1541_zpsrvxjrpqv.jpg.html)

Little brace underneath after tweeking several times, body on/body off. There is about an inch clearance from the top off that cylinder.
The whole mount will be reshaped when we do the final welding/ tidy up.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 04, 2016, 02:30:31 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20front%20end/DSCF1536_zpswiipak0b.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20front%20end/DSCF1536_zpswiipak0b.jpg.html)

Sherpa discs, pads, calipers and flexi hoses only bit we made is the small tab on the axle which shares the fixing for the hairpin mounts. simples.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on December 04, 2016, 06:11:58 PM
Nice engineering...........


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 04, 2016, 06:25:03 PM
Nice to see another progress report on this.
A few years ago a mate & I trailered a Sherpa van all the way back from Swansea so I could cut it up & use the running gear in a T bucket. The T never happened & I ended up scrapping the van cos I didn't have the room to keep loads of parts. The rear axle's under my Pop though. Shame cos the wheels, brakes etc would've been handy.
Nice work chaps. I mentioned you to my brother, Steve Field of Black Pig Racing/FieldCraft Fabrication recently -he knows you well & said to say Hi.  :)   


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 05, 2016, 06:52:52 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1625_zpso3k4lpxa.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1625_zpso3k4lpxa.jpg.html)

Steve Field, know him well , wish I had half his talent.
Steering column mount, what a nightmare this single tube was. It fits perfectly under the nose of the body and acts as the mount for the dashboard but getting here meant lifting the body on/off several times, cutting,grinding plus rewelding/tacking in place, repeat, wrong, bugger. Then found the angle of the column will require a second UJ to line up with the steering rack. No big issue as we had room below the brake cylinder


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 05, 2016, 07:04:24 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1627_zpsjgdasupd.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1627_zpsjgdasupd.jpg.html)

Also opted for  hand operated brakes as the new steering rack position had messed up the plan for the pedal. Problem with building this is as no matter how well you plan something it always needs tweeking. This is also why everything is sort off 70% finished because you never know when you might just have to cut it off and start again.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 05, 2016, 07:18:46 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1628_zpsnhvublfr.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1628_zpsnhvublfr.jpg.html)

Steering wheel. Wanted a butterfly wheel but wow, how much!. So we decided to make one (Gareth did it) instead. Used a standard quick release boss and came up with this. Needs finishing but I think it works. Poor Gareth was so pi$$ed when he realised he had put one side of the grips opposite way round. I like it,a bit of smoothing and will be fine, shows the human input into it.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 05, 2016, 07:21:11 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1630_zpseq613oig.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1630_zpseq613oig.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 05, 2016, 07:31:28 PM
I wish his talent ran in the family.  :P
Love that semi circular dashboard tube.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: BikerGran on December 06, 2016, 05:38:49 PM
And i love the steering 'wheel'.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 06, 2016, 07:48:12 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1642_zpsdhkhpvfw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1642_zpsdhkhpvfw.jpg.html)

Made a dashboard, very rough and simple at moment may change to wood with  a couple of slight curves below for knees. All the basic items here apart from 1 more toggle switch required. May not use the voltmeter as I only fitted it because it came in the set.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 06, 2016, 07:49:34 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1634_zpssp5h3ny6.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1634_zpssp5h3ny6.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 06, 2016, 07:53:52 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1649_zpso1kc6p4m.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1649_zpso1kc6p4m.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1650_zpsxnykq14w.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1650_zpsxnykq14w.jpg.html)

As you can see space is tight so not many options for positions. They have to go there. May re-think the Kill switch as a bit too close to the frame.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 06, 2016, 07:59:01 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1653_zpslbnkhome.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF1653_zpslbnkhome.jpg.html)

All starting to get very snug up at the front here, running out of room.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 06, 2016, 08:24:53 PM
Looks great.
I assume the red button's the Start & the Kill switch is obviously Stop -so what does the black button do?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 06, 2016, 09:33:00 PM
Thank you. The black button is a green indicator lamp to show gearbox is in park via the start inhibit relay. Only 3 switched items on the car ignition, fuel pump and fan. Using a mechanical waterpump on this car so no switch needed unlike on the Trabant. Apart from the 2 kill switches, 1 in cockpit and 1 external at the rear that's about it. Maybe another for a rear light but apparently that is only required for Santa Pod.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 07, 2016, 10:18:36 AM
Inhibitor -very sensible. Seen a few incidents where they weren't fitted or didn't work, (had a scary moment with my own Pop once too, when it dropped into gear while on tickover & trundled off backwards on it's own. Only the quick reactions of a mate stopped it ploughing through a neighbour's fence).
So what class will you be racing in?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 07, 2016, 08:40:51 PM
RWYB and just hope it makes it to the end of the track in one piece  ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 07, 2016, 09:04:07 PM
 :) Will you be out in 2017? I'm not a massive drag racing fan, but always do the Hotrod Drags & Nostalgia Nationals at Shakey because they're "oldie" themed.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 08, 2016, 04:36:32 PM
That is the plan, hopefully done for Gary,s Picnic in May at Shakey.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 08, 2016, 05:03:39 PM
Great -I'll try & get along.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 05:33:50 PM
Make sure you have alternative plans as we have missed many deadlines. ;D
So in the back ground of the last few photos was the seat, or as it is now known 'The wingback bomber seat'.
It all started with a very excited Mr Conner as he could finally now start building his rocket ship.  :D
(stole that comment from someone else)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_67792_zpstjwuc2hw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_67792_zpstjwuc2hw.jpg.html)

And came up with this. Also here is the first steering wheel cross brace and Gareths first ever attempt at a butterfly wheel made in his youth. Both of which are long gone

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_67862_zpsnvmycxxi.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_67862_zpsnvmycxxi.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 05:38:33 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_0011_zps41xmamu0.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_0011_zps41xmamu0.jpg.html)

Made out of 2mm ali and held together with 4mm  nuts and bolts. Eventually we hope to cold rivet together.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 05:40:03 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_0013_zpssg8xmfhv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_0013_zpssg8xmfhv.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 05:44:45 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_0033_zpsgn7mmiqo.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_0033_zpsgn7mmiqo.jpg.html)

Once we had the seat in and a couple of bits of wood to simulate the cushion it became evident the steering wheel angle felt wrong.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 05:48:03 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_0034_zpss2yepkvm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/IMG_0034_zpss2yepkvm.jpg.html)

Seat is just sat on two brackets at the moment.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 05:50:51 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1890_zpsp1uapggr.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1890_zpsp1uapggr.jpg.html)

And two tabs at the back.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 05:57:52 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1895_zpskgidpict.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1895_zpskgidpict.jpg.html)

Put a bar across for the shoulder straps. Made sure we had enough clearance to still get a socket on the nuts for the seat mounts.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 06:02:20 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1891_zpso4egrt4p.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1891_zpso4egrt4p.jpg.html)

Decided on best place for lap belt mounts.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1894_zpsthhkimeo.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1894_zpsthhkimeo.jpg.html)

Welded in a bracket for the harness eyelet.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1892_zps89kcqjqm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1892_zps89kcqjqm.jpg.html)

Looked at the bottom mount and needed somewhere for the crotch mount and felt we needed a bit more protection,

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1893_zpsknsp8o2z.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1893_zpsknsp8o2z.jpg.html)

And put in this brace made from an old metal pallet foot. Must be 1/4" thick and runs directly under the drivers most delicate parts in case we ground out anytime.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on December 10, 2016, 06:12:32 PM
You just have got to put some holes in that front axle ? ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 06:20:55 PM
Holes in the axle was always part of the plan but may be a winter job once finished as time is running out at the moment.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 06:24:01 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1903_zpsvyj0efqf.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1903_zpsvyj0efqf.jpg.html)

Put some holes in the seat instead. ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 08:25:36 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Seat/DSCF1900_zps071gsfve.jpg)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Seat/DSCF1901_zpsa5iceikm.jpg)
Holes in the side is the start of the lapbelt slots.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1907_zpslo1snogl.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1907_zpslo1snogl.jpg.html)

Bit between cut out, will maybe make larger and flange the edges a little bit.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 08:28:19 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1946_zpsxk5epny9.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1946_zpsxk5epny9.jpg.html)

Worked out where the crotch strap mount would be in seat base.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 08:32:32 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1925_zpsjx9rqgvr.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1925_zpsjx9rqgvr.jpg.html)

Put the shoulder straps round the rear tube.

Clipped in the lap belts each side.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1924_zpsvvl3zcu0.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1924_zpsvvl3zcu0.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 08:35:27 PM
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1918_zpsiehlzvux.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1918_zpsiehlzvux.jpg.html)

Popped the seat in and fed the lap belts through the side slots.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1920_zpstzwpus04.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1920_zpstzwpus04.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 10, 2016, 08:45:47 PM
Put another eyelet through the lower seat brace which comes out the hole in the seat and connects to the crotch belt.
Job done! 5 point harness and seat to keep us safe. Bit more to finish but will do towards the end. Radiator, battery and fuel tank next.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1947_zpsbvncwsel.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1947_zpsbvncwsel.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1948_zpshmhies0i.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20seat/DSCF1948_zpshmhies0i.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 11, 2016, 09:13:51 AM
Nice. Swages look good too. Are there regulations on the clearance around the lap belt slots? Rubber edging bead to stop them chafing? A really interesting build.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 11, 2016, 04:06:38 PM
May well be regulations but not for RWYB, as long as they are there and undamaged. Have some edging to go on the seat and was going to flare the harness slots for clearance. If that fails will just make slots larger and use the edging on them.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 17, 2016, 07:26:28 PM
So working backwards, the radiator. Cant remember what car its for we just went round to the local parts place and asked to look at all the rads out the back and chose this one as it had the most suitable inlet/outlets and no other connections. £33.
Using the original mounting points made up a front and rear brackets.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1960_zpsrnwlhqj5.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1960_zpsrnwlhqj5.jpg.html)
Front bracket.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1959_zpswftnftkc.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1959_zpswftnftkc.jpg.html)
Rear bracket.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 17, 2016, 07:33:11 PM
The brackets will sit on top of the rear chassis tubes and be held down with jubilee clips.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1958_zpsue9lyfuq.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1958_zpsue9lyfuq.jpg.html)

Front bracket.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1956_zpsac2ciaez.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1956_zpsac2ciaez.jpg.html)

Rear bracket.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1957_zpstrnfxhvn.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20rad/DSCF1957_zpstrnfxhvn.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 17, 2016, 07:41:09 PM
Front rad mount, will be putting rubber bushes between the rad and the bracket holes.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20rad/IMG_6679_zpspvevj1ti.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20rad/IMG_6679_zpspvevj1ti.jpg.html)

And the rear one in place. Just have to figure out how to plumb it up, but at lest we know where we are aiming for. And the battery.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20rad/IMG_66802_zpsgtmh3vwo.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20rad/IMG_66802_zpsgtmh3vwo.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on December 17, 2016, 07:44:39 PM
We used to hold blown hemi engines in my mates funny car with the same thing? Tubing held by jubilee clips? ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 17, 2016, 07:55:02 PM
First saw that type of fixing on slingshot dragsters at the track, could not believe you were allowed to hold your engine in like that.
Then looking at all the other cars and builds realised what is and isn't needed to make a car. Apparently you can use what ever you want to build a vehicle from as long as the safety cage is sound and the car can pass tech. Was originally going to use a massive piece of carved hardwood for the front rad bracket. ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 17, 2016, 08:02:56 PM
Battery mounted in the most simple way possible, bits of angle and some 10mm studding.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20battery/DSCF1929_zpstdmgkylz.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20battery/DSCF1929_zpstdmgkylz.jpg.html)

Clamp for top made out of flatbar.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20battery/DSCF1931_zpsfihqa8fh.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20battery/DSCF1931_zpsfihqa8fh.jpg.html)

And done.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20battery/IMG_66772_zpsyzqtib2d.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20battery/IMG_66772_zpsyzqtib2d.jpg.html)

Next the fuel tank, a prime example of what was to hand...



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 19, 2016, 05:40:10 PM
And this is what we are using as a fuel tank. A pressure tank from a central heating system, Will probably hold about a couple of gallons so plenty for what we need. Will coat the inside with something (any ideas?) and the shove a piece of fuel tank foam inside to stop fuel sloshing around.



(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1934_zps5zvd9ixg.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1934_zps5zvd9ixg.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 19, 2016, 05:50:56 PM
Purchased a fuel tank cap and neck from Car Builder Solutions and made a plate to go on to tank.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1936_zpsadd8g5bj.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1936_zpsadd8g5bj.jpg.html)

Welded in a fuel outlet on the bottom as well. Tank is steel and neck is ali.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1912_zpshejkbrcd.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1912_zpshejkbrcd.jpg.html)

And done. Still need to put a breather pipe on the top and make a gasket for the Filler neck.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1937_zpsmjkg1sqd.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1937_zpsmjkg1sqd.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 19, 2016, 05:58:01 PM
That's unusual. I like it. Where will it go? Even with RWYB, the scrutineers won't allow fuel tanks directly above hot exhausts etc will they?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 19, 2016, 06:02:00 PM
And the right way up.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1938_zpswpx9iysr.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1938_zpswpx9iysr.jpg.html)

And fitted in the only space left. Made a bracket across the rear of the top rails and welded a couple of mounting studs on so we could use the tanks own mounting plate.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/IMG_6724_zps3c6omyks.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/IMG_6724_zps3c6omyks.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 19, 2016, 06:09:50 PM
Started thinking about the tank and 10/12 kilos of fuel and the way the tank mount was tack welded to the side, we modified the mount so tank is held by the neck as well.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1939_zpsdxifs1yo.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1939_zpsdxifs1yo.jpg.html)

Looks a bit more secure like that.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1940_zps8xure59m.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/DSCF1940_zps8xure59m.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 19, 2016, 06:25:04 PM
And the 3 of them together. The radiator was easy as plenty of room in the middle, the rear not so much. The battery is as far back as possible, infact we need to trim off the excess from the top of the mounting studs and the ends of the top plate as they are almost rubbing on the inside of the body and the tank, well the height of that was decided by its own mount and the cross brace. We (hopefully) made the neck to the correct height that it will sit just below a small flap at the rear of the body.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20tank/IMG_67252_zpstwuv0hfv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20tank/IMG_67252_zpstwuv0hfv.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 19, 2016, 06:34:56 PM
That's unusual. I like it. Where will it go? Even with RWYB, the scrutineers won't allow fuel tanks directly above hot exhausts etc will they?

Hot exhausts?...think zoomie's!  ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 19, 2016, 08:39:56 PM
Aah!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 26, 2016, 10:42:47 PM
Last 3 items that need mounts are the coil, the fuel pump and the expansion tank. The coil is fitted  on the top of the nearside chassis tube just behind the fire wall.

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1926_zpsynh4suhq.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1926_zpsynh4suhq.jpg.html)

And the fuel pump is on the offside lower tube just below the fuel tank. Wanted to use a Holley pump but too expensive at the moment.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1910_zpsqczoydlb.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1910_zpsqczoydlb.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 26, 2016, 10:48:50 PM
Made a couple more body mounts as it is only held in place by the outriggers. A simple stay bar for the front end

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1881_zpsvylke8wu.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1881_zpsvylke8wu.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1886_zpsvb9ehksq.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1886_zpsvb9ehksq.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 26, 2016, 10:57:37 PM
Some plates on the end of each outrigger. These stop the body moving side to side on the outriggers and may or may not have matching plates on the outside.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1884_zpsvdapvawk.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1884_zpsvdapvawk.jpg.html)

A couple more tabs each side of the rear axle.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1883_zpsmja6jkrv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1883_zpsmja6jkrv.jpg.html)

And one at the rear, work in progress at the moment while we finish the push bar at the rear.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1989_zpszg6fumbl.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF1989_zpszg6fumbl.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 26, 2016, 11:43:40 PM
Accelerator pedal was going to be floor mounted but with the steering rack moved down it now has to be fitted here.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1949_zpshx4icz43.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1949_zpshx4icz43.jpg.html)

Made a couple of tabs with possible adjustment holes and a pedal arm going down.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1953_zpsvcsiilx3.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1953_zpsvcsiilx3.jpg.html)

Little dog leg in arm so in middle of available space and a small side bracket to hold the cable end.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1985_zps8bsgkiop.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1985_zps8bsgkiop.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 26, 2016, 11:51:04 PM
Small tab on side of safety cell to hold the cable.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1984_zpsxftshhl2.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1984_zpsxftshhl2.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1983_zps3kjqaqxy.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1983_zps3kjqaqxy.jpg.html)

And the pedal and toe hook, rough at the moment but will tidy up.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1994_zpsmfa6wrhe.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1994_zpsmfa6wrhe.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 26, 2016, 11:57:23 PM
Better view of accelerator pedal. Toe hook is to allow you to pull the pedal back up in case it sticks, will also have two return springs at the other end on the carb and maybe a spring on the pedal shaft itself. Safety first.  ;)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1996_zpsckub2c6t.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20pedal/DSCF1996_zpsckub2c6t.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 27, 2016, 01:16:02 AM
Gear linkage, with the gearbox now being behind the driver instead of along side your feet the cable would not reach and there was no room for the shifter itself. So being proud owners of push rod brake bicycles we copied that idea. Had a set of 10mm linear bearings which were meant to be used on the trike for that gear linkage. fitted one by the rear outrigger and one by the front outrigger with a length of 10mm bar between.

Rear.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20gearlink/IMG_0064_zpsqahkurhr.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20gearlink/IMG_0064_zpsqahkurhr.jpg.html)


Front.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20gearlink/IMG_0065_zpsfwt08hgs.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20gearlink/IMG_0065_zpsfwt08hgs.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on December 27, 2016, 01:27:32 AM
Connected up to a simple lever.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20gearlink/DSCF1867_zpsxycqc9je.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20gearlink/DSCF1867_zpsxycqc9je.jpg.html)

Which then moved from here...

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20gearlink/DSCF1865_zpsnlyx7xga.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20gearlink/DSCF1865_zpsnlyx7xga.jpg.html)

to here.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20gearlink/DSCF1866_zpssktrjtdc.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20gearlink/DSCF1866_zpssktrjtdc.jpg.html)

Had too much travel at the top which we could sort by moving the pivot point but it just seemed wrong to use and difficult to know what gear you were in. Cut it off and start again.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 01, 2017, 10:16:53 PM
Gear linkage number 2 made and slowly evolving into number 3, will post pics when whole set up is working. Decided to make a start on the firewall. Made a template out of hardboard first before marking up some ali sheet. The firewall is made in three parts and held on a 1x1" flange on the bottom half and a 2x1" flange on the top half as this is also part of the engine cover.

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1955_zpsroagswgc.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1955_zpsroagswgc.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1954_zpsrnelznin.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1954_zpsrnelznin.jpg.html)

Templates made to overlap each other.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1961_zpskekur9gf.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1961_zpskekur9gf.jpg.html)

Test fitting and hardly any trimming needed as it should be a circle.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1963_zpsgxobpf3b.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1963_zpsgxobpf3b.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 01, 2017, 10:34:33 PM
Marked out the top section now known as the 'mushroom' and the two side sections on to the ali sheet and cut using a slit disc and steady hand.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1973_zps9blwiskq.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1973_zps9blwiskq.jpg.html)

2 side sections made with the overlap needed. Also started planning swage lines but am limited by the reach of the swager.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1975_zpsf2xs4eqq.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1975_zpsf2xs4eqq.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 01, 2017, 10:42:04 PM
Came out like this. Kept the swage lines simple as did not want to risk messing it up with too many bends.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1978_zps3rpklery.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1978_zps3rpklery.jpg.html)

One remark was 'Optimus Primes cod piece' ;D

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1976_zpsy3l3wwer.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1976_zpsy3l3wwer.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 07:59:35 AM
Fitted the lower flanges, made out of 2mm ali same as firewall. Barely fits in the shrinker at 2 mm but after a bit of work it works, will clean up the marks left by the shrinker later on.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1951_zps6pw9njmj.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1951_zps6pw9njmj.jpg.html)

Cut the holes in side panels for chassis tubes and test fitted.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1981_zpsrkylwpqp.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1981_zpsrkylwpqp.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1982_zpsphv60ehf.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1982_zpsphv60ehf.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 08:02:37 AM
And the top flanges made the same way as the lower ones just wider so they can be part of the engine cover.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1987_zpsaibnhkvv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20firewall/DSCF1987_zpsaibnhkvv.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 02, 2017, 09:41:20 AM
Reminds me of Captain America's shield, strapped to his back :)
Looks very nearly complete once you start putting panels in. Nice work Sir.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 07:20:10 PM
Can't fit the top flanges till we know where the engine cover is and cant do that till we know where the exhausts are going to exit so body back on and cut out the holes for the exhausts. Best pic at the moment, have been cut down to about 9" and a stay bar welded between them.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF1655_zpsnga75vkc.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF1655_zpsnga75vkc.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF1657_zpstwsq4pog.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF1657_zpstwsq4pog.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 02, 2017, 07:25:52 PM
Ooh, that's gonna be loud! :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Marked out where front and rear pipes should be drilled two holes and then cut the slot out between them and hoped we (me) had not ballsed it up
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/IMG_1501_zpsbr30d0sf.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/IMG_1501_zpsbr30d0sf.jpg.html)


(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2004_zps2dqrwpgz.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2004_zps2dqrwpgz.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/IMG_1502_zpsgw5lxdto.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/IMG_1502_zpsgw5lxdto.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 07:32:09 PM
Put the engine back in with the cut to length exhausts fitted and... it only fits!

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/IMG_1506_zpsw6batvc7.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/IMG_1506_zpsw6batvc7.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 02, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
Looks damn cool too!
Will you need some sort of heat shield around those? Does fibreglass melt?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 07:43:27 PM
With the exhaust cut outs we could decide how far down the engine cover would  come. Once again measured many times before cutting.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2006_zps93hkx6ef.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2006_zps93hkx6ef.jpg.html)

And the spine decided where it finished so that was the size of the cover. Making this up as we go, planning will only get you so far.
Also made hole in the top right above the carb.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2007_zpsbgmuvarm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2007_zpsbgmuvarm.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 07:51:56 PM
Looks damn cool too!
Will you need some sort of heat shield around those? Does fibreglass melt?

Thank you, it gets better. We are planning some sort of heat shield round the opening as it may well burn. 


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 07:58:20 PM
Should be enough room to work on anything important.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2008_zpsofsfzt3k.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2008_zpsofsfzt3k.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2009_zpsu1uvpd9s.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2009_zpsu1uvpd9s.jpg.html)

Marked up the spine for trimming.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2010_zpsdkhszufr.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2010_zpsdkhszufr.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2011_zps9gdfpowj.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2011_zps9gdfpowj.jpg.html)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 08:01:50 PM
Trimmed.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2012_zpsggbpc5kw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2012_zpsggbpc5kw.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2013_zpsakossanv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2013_zpsakossanv.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 09:05:10 PM
Now we can start on the firewall top flange.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2015_zpsrtoiljrb.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2015_zpsrtoiljrb.jpg.html)

Fitted using dome head allen key bolts, first piece done.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2016_zpsnjsys9ht.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2016_zpsnjsys9ht.jpg.html)

Second piece in, and yeah I am that good, they don't line up. No worries will put on to the ever growing list.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2023_zpstwzut8hj.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2023_zpstwzut8hj.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 09:14:24 PM
Third piece, can only cut lengths up to 33" in the guillotine so sides will be in two pieces.

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2025_zpsgy3f7quo.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2025_zpsgy3f7quo.jpg.html)

Fourth, shiney ;D

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2027_zpskeiwxqjp.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2027_zpskeiwxqjp.jpg.html)

Fifth, other side.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2028_zps4v9bwofv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2028_zps4v9bwofv.jpg.html)

And sixth, Tail end next.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2029_zpsmpi3vvad.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2029_zpsmpi3vvad.jpg.html)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 09:21:55 PM
Tried to shrink this section a little on the side that attaches to the body, didn't work out too well and the flange moved when tightening up. Not a major flaw but it bugs me for some strange reason more than some other problems.

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2030_zpskjeche17.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2030_zpskjeche17.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2031_zpsoowpmvlx.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2031_zpsoowpmvlx.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2032_zpsgxvgwiov.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2032_zpsgxvgwiov.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 02, 2017, 09:29:28 PM
Fitted the trimmed spine to the cover. Still need to cut vents for the carb just not sure where at the moment.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2042_zpsk1qgpvua.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2042_zpsk1qgpvua.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2041_zpshoxqhps6.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2041_zpshoxqhps6.jpg.html)

So we have a cover and a flange, will they fit nicely.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2040_zpstpmcp5c3.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2040_zpstpmcp5c3.jpg.html)

Oh yes.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2036_zpsgqsicspg.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2036_zpsgqsicspg.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 02, 2017, 09:53:19 PM
Really nice job guys. Very submarine looking!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: minimutly on January 02, 2017, 10:26:01 PM
To say I'm impessed would be an understatement!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Tony oily bike on January 02, 2017, 10:57:50 PM
Have to agree, really interesting thread, great engineering and aesthetics to match, well done sir ;)

One of the pics of the exhausts exiting the bodywork reminded me of the Auto Union Type D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 03, 2017, 01:39:58 AM
Thanks chaps, now the Auto union that I like, could build and make road legal? mudguards though spoil the look, what gearbox to get those proportions? do Audi have a V12 engine? maybe a taxi chassis and rebody..............no no no stop it finish this one first. :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on January 03, 2017, 05:39:35 AM
I see no front end ? Have you decided to just use a reliant front end instead ? ;D
Or are you drilling HOLES ? ;)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 03, 2017, 08:46:41 AM
Sorry no holes, axle is on a diet at the moment.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 03, 2017, 08:57:01 AM
On a roll with cutting holes in the body. Trimmed up the cockpit edges and made a template of the best side before transferring to the other side, looks a lot better now.

Template.

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2043_zpsajaeo1bk.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2043_zpsajaeo1bk.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2044_zpswa9leuya.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2044_zpswa9leuya.jpg.html)

Other side
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2045_zpsfplsnyd2.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2045_zpsfplsnyd2.jpg.html)

Trimmed
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2046_zpswside9ql.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2046_zpswside9ql.jpg.html)

And done, maybe put something on the edges.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2047_zpsv48joei0.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cockpit/DSCF2047_zpsv48joei0.jpg.html)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 03, 2017, 08:55:32 PM
Need to put some vents in the engine cover for the radiator.

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2042_zpsk1qgpvua.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2042_zpsk1qgpvua.jpg.html)

So marked up some cut lines with masking tape.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2048_zpspztmvnit.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2048_zpspztmvnit.jpg.html)

And cut out, all we need to do now is from the other side stick some mesh on. ;)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2050_zpslkgzwgcl.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2050_zpslkgzwgcl.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 03, 2017, 11:39:23 PM
Mesh my ar$e! Made up these vents, louvers, grills what ever you want to call them out of bits of scrap. 4" squares with little tabs spot welded on to the 2 side rails every 1.5". Why those measurements? Because that is the smallest size I could fit the end of the spot welder into. Originally there was 8 squares in each but that was too long. so reduced to 6 and about 20" in length.

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2051_zpsntgtiwl1.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2051_zpsntgtiwl1.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2052_zpsgjd6h5z4.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2052_zpsgjd6h5z4.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2054_zpsnll5tmk8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2054_zpsnll5tmk8.jpg.html)

Marked up the other side.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2053_zpszvwf9w2u.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2053_zpszvwf9w2u.jpg.html)

Other side in, need to make the end caps and fix to the cover.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2055_zpsmjqfebqm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2055_zpsmjqfebqm.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2056_zpswfim6sma.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2056_zpswfim6sma.jpg.html)

Am I the only one who can see a sad elephant?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 04, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
 :D no you're not!
I was disappointed when you said you'd use mesh. I thought if it'd been mine Id've made up louvres :)
Lookin' good -& only slightly Pachedermian.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on January 04, 2017, 04:03:14 PM
Looking good..square holes..love em !


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 04, 2017, 07:00:58 PM
Put 4 little cuts in the side rails by the edge of vents 2 and 4. You can just see where I nicked the edge of the flange between fixings 2 and 3, and 4 and 5 at the top. This allowed the vents to follow the curve slightly once bolted down this time with 5mm dome heads,then welded up the slits from the other side so it stays in that shape.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2058_zpsqrufmjvs.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2058_zpsqrufmjvs.jpg.html)


Made up some ends.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2064_zps2ceary1z.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2064_zps2ceary1z.jpg.html)

Cleaned up.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2065_zpscubj4yze.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2065_zpscubj4yze.jpg.html)

Cleaned up the holes.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2067_zpsgqekq8fn.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2067_zpsgqekq8fn.jpg.html)

And refitted.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2070_zps4bunqywh.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2070_zps4bunqywh.jpg.html)




Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 04, 2017, 07:14:14 PM
Quite pleased with how it looks so far, still have to do something for an air intake in the cowl for the carb. Will come back to that another day. Next thing to figure out will be the fuel flap and access panel at the front.
Warning!    Photo dump.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2072_zps80eatpmr.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2072_zps80eatpmr.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2073_zpsmk2tkmkn.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2073_zpsmk2tkmkn.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2074_zpsorvb8zae.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2074_zpsorvb8zae.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2075_zpsmxtrzu8m.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2075_zpsmxtrzu8m.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2078_zpsjmu6jfdj.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20engine%20cover/DSCF2078_zpsjmu6jfdj.jpg.html)

Oh, by the way this build diary is now up to date so progress may not be as fast.

Cheers

Kev.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 04, 2017, 08:21:13 PM
That's really nice, especially that last photo. Attention to detail & finish makes all the difference. Good job chaps!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 06, 2017, 08:15:44 PM
Attention to detail does make all the difference, reckon we spend longer thinking and talking about some off these parts than making them sometimes. Fuel flap next, used up some off cuts of ali and made a little hinge and bracket. Will be using same method as engine cover.
Parts needed...

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2079_zpskhiscqzx.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2079_zpskhiscqzx.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2081_zpsuxm8yosm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2081_zpsuxm8yosm.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2082_zpsabnlxo19.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2082_zpsabnlxo19.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2084_zps9o55ymrt.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2084_zps9o55ymrt.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2085_zpsnfbl0yrn.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2085_zpsnfbl0yrn.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2086_zpsz6f4zy0h.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2086_zpsz6f4zy0h.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2087_zpsfxhwmgiw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2087_zpsfxhwmgiw.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2089_zps3wpncach.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2089_zps3wpncach.jpg.html)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 06, 2017, 08:25:51 PM
Marked out the shape needed after working out where tank should be and then cut, hoping I am right as unable to see tank from inside as it is behind the diff and battery.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2091_zpshnf96op8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2091_zpshnf96op8.jpg.html)

And Hello! There you are.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2092_zpsdsyxtbpm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2092_zpsdsyxtbpm.jpg.html)

Then fixed hinge and flanges in the same way as the engine cover

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2095_zps3pf7ym5x.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2095_zps3pf7ym5x.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2096_zps9gamok0l.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2096_zps9gamok0l.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2097_zpsxkg3femi.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2097_zpsxkg3femi.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2098_zpselz2toen.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2098_zpselz2toen.jpg.html)






Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 06, 2017, 08:30:41 PM
Marked out the flap fixings and done. Not happy with the hinge at the moment, but it is a start so will fettle some more once top body is off and I can access it from both sides.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2099_zpsva7rebbd.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2099_zpsva7rebbd.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2111_zpsdxxnfubn.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2111_zpsdxxnfubn.jpg.html)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 06, 2017, 08:47:08 PM
Not happy with the edges by the  hinge at the moment, will need sorting  >:(
So going to leave for a while and do the exhaust flanges next.

 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2112_zps0kalvuoy.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2112_zps0kalvuoy.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2114_zps6joh8hp6.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2114_zps6joh8hp6.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2116_zpsf0h8r2lz.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2116_zpsf0h8r2lz.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2117_zpsfoyymurg.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20fuel%20flap/DSCF2117_zpsfoyymurg.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 06, 2017, 08:55:43 PM
Looks pretty damn good to me.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: BikerGran on January 06, 2017, 09:33:42 PM
I'm in awe!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 07, 2017, 06:13:51 PM
Thank you, right had enough of flaps at the moment so had a go at flange instead. ;D
No really, started on the exhaust flanges. Cut some strips of thin steel about an inch wide and fold down their length in half making lengths of angle. Found an offcut of tube about 62mm as a guide and start stretching.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2107_zpspnqnfjyd.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2107_zpspnqnfjyd.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2109_zpsmvsvqkfw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2109_zpsmvsvqkfw.jpg.html)

And one ready made flange kit. Bent up more than needed and cut the straight bits to 18". You can see the offcut used as a guide top right of pic.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2110_zpshs4mdm6z.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2110_zpshs4mdm6z.jpg.html)

Enlarged the slots to about 65mm and rounded out the ends.


(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2118_zps511y76at.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2118_zps511y76at.jpg.html)


Test fitted the best of the end pieces.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2119_zpsewlcwzlq.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2119_zpsewlcwzlq.jpg.html)


Fitted the top and bottom sections first in the same way as the air vents 5mm dome head allen bolts
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2121_zpstnnl5ofq.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2121_zpstnnl5ofq.jpg.html)


Then trimmed up the end pieces to match, just need to tack together before removing and final welding.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2122_zpsabnagtkw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2122_zpsabnagtkw.jpg.html)

Exhaust refitted.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2125_zpstwqxwngw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20zoomies/DSCF2125_zpstwqxwngw.jpg.html)





Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 07, 2017, 09:27:45 PM
That really is a wondrous tool isn't it -oh, how many times have I heard that over the years ...well, not that many actually.
Could've really used that on a few builds. The details are really putting this project one notch higher than most -there's been a steel belly tank racer -well, aluminium I guess, at the Dutch hotrod show I go to for the last couple of years. Very nice, but not finished to anywhere near the standard of your 'glass one.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 07, 2017, 10:36:47 PM
Thanks for the positive comments, problem with building something is you know all the little flaws which always draw your eye preventing you from seeing the whole product. Or is that just me ?
Anyways going to cut the body again next.

Kev.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 08, 2017, 09:53:00 AM
Yup. Joe Public just see a nice car, or bike, or bellytank. If you've built it you know every ripple in the bodywork, every flaw in the paint etc.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 08, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
After the fuel flap disaster we still needed another one this time at the front. This is so we can access the brake fluid reservoir and the fuse box, was never keen on this as in 5 years of racing the trabant we have at the track changed one fuse and topped up the fluid once. The others insisted it was accessible so, after many hours of just staring at it I decide to make whole front removable and using the minimum amount of cuts required.
Marked out the cuts with masking tape, carrying on the engine cover cut all the way down to the lip.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2136_zpsmh3kkap8.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2136_zpsmh3kkap8.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2140_zpswe2bpmxy.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2140_zpswe2bpmxy.jpg.html)

And two cuts behind the roll hoop.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2143_zpsahubcqi4.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2143_zpsahubcqi4.jpg.html)

Meaning this whole section from the tape forwards will be removable.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2141_zpsuqbqmzpk.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2141_zpsuqbqmzpk.jpg.html)

 


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 08, 2017, 05:07:53 PM
Removed the firewall flange.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2144_zpspeudtxwv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2144_zpspeudtxwv.jpg.html)

And cut down to the lip.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2146_zpshhef7mb0.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2146_zpshhef7mb0.jpg.html)

Did the same on the other side and then took front off before cutting away the top piece.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2147_zps3wgm91pm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2147_zps3wgm91pm.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2148_zpsbd9lq6sj.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2148_zpsbd9lq6sj.jpg.html)




Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 08, 2017, 07:24:13 PM
Ending up with this.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2149_zpse0yt2wt2.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2149_zpse0yt2wt2.jpg.html)

Or this
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2150_zpsxwyv5swc.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2150_zpsxwyv5swc.jpg.html)

Or this
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2152_zps5dtshcyu.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2152_zps5dtshcyu.jpg.html)

And together
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2151_zpsgggx3o89.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2151_zpsgggx3o89.jpg.html)


And as a little treat I put it all back together and ended up with this.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2156_zpsmlw7jecv.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2156_zpsmlw7jecv.jpg.html)

Rather pleased....still don't like the fuel flap. ;D

 


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 08, 2017, 07:42:30 PM
For a minute there I thought you were going backwards & making a huge change that might not work out -but I shouldn't have doubted you -very sensible to have the front removable & everything still seems to line up perfectly when it goes back on. In the event of a crash/fire/change of underpants etc, some quick release Dzus fasteners would mean quick access to the cockpit area -makes perfect sense.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 10, 2017, 07:05:54 PM
Front section will still be bolted together, in total 35 bolts. Will only take 5 -10 mins to remove. The others wanted 'serviceable' well I gave them 'accessible'  ;D
On with the front section, marked up with masking tape the shape of the opening around the spring and shock.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2181_zpsglsdmti1.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2181_zpsglsdmti1.jpg.html)

Cut away and checked for clearance.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2182_zpsusx5p8mh.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2182_zpsusx5p8mh.jpg.html)

Then made a template for other side.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2184_zpscxvltydg.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2184_zpscxvltydg.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2185_zpsyxyqkeqw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2185_zpsyxyqkeqw.jpg.html)

And then marked up the other side.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2186_zpscpj5beex.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2186_zpscpj5beex.jpg.html)

Cut that piece out and hoped they matched.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2187_zpswb0nt07a.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2187_zpswb0nt07a.jpg.html)

And checked back on the car, so far so good. Next more flanges.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2190_zpsyppa9ymr.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2190_zpsyppa9ymr.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 10, 2017, 07:25:21 PM
Made flanges in the same way as all the others, Little bits all shrunk and stretched to the right shape before being welded together which is not done yet as that is one thing I cannot do. No point trying as the others can all weld so leave it to the experts.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2193_zps6qhkjfmp.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2193_zps6qhkjfmp.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2194_zpsikzhy0km.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2194_zpsikzhy0km.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2195_zpsvfc6dbg9.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2195_zpsvfc6dbg9.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2197_zpsg492pp0j.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2197_zpsg492pp0j.jpg.html)

A quick check before fixing and trimming.(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2198_zpsnfokr1yg.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2198_zpsnfokr1yg.jpg.html)

And one side done.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2208_zps8bwyapgt.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2208_zps8bwyapgt.jpg.html)

Made the same for the other side.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2211_zpszsnwb92b.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2211_zpszsnwb92b.jpg.html)

Checked to see if this one fits.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2217_zpsxv0ssneb.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2217_zpsxv0ssneb.jpg.html)

And done, and they look quite equal and in line so happy with that. Next up rear axle openings and yep, more flanges.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2221_zpsz4b7yrcf.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2221_zpsz4b7yrcf.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 10, 2017, 07:30:21 PM
I do like that shrinky doofer.
What are your lever arm shocks from? Sherpa, (I cut a Sherpa van up a few years ago but can't remember what dampers it had). My Pop uses the rear lever arms from a Moggy Minor, but if I'm driving on my own, the body settles to the driver's side. I wonder if stiffer dampers would help.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 10, 2017, 07:37:53 PM
I think they came off an old ford Pop from memory and the spring is from a morris 8. Basically using what ever is tucked away in our garages.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: minimutly on January 11, 2017, 05:30:26 PM
I do like that shrinky doofer.
What are your lever arm shocks from? Sherpa, (I cut a Sherpa van up a few years ago but can't remember what dampers it had). My Pop uses the rear lever arms from a Moggy Minor, but if I'm driving on my own, the body settles to the driver's side. I wonder if stiffer dampers would help.
No Andy, shock absorbers, or dampers are just that. Springs hold you up. Fit stiffer springs, move them out, or fit an antirollbar. Maybe all 3?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 11, 2017, 05:48:20 PM
I've got a transverse leaf on the front, the same as Terry's bellytank, so can't do any of those.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 11, 2017, 09:05:26 PM
Made up the flanges for the rear axle, getting better with the shrinker/stretcher. Might even have a go at re-doing the fuel flap if there is time. Pics will explain the process. Both sides done still need to do below the front axle but will probably do the push bar next as I have removed the rear body section at this moment.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2222_zpsevbkhlpk.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2222_zpsevbkhlpk.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2224_zpsd1f2wrcj.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2224_zpsd1f2wrcj.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2223_zpsfxuiuci7.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2223_zpsfxuiuci7.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2225_zpssrhkpes6.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2225_zpssrhkpes6.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2226_zpsghtm39tb.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2226_zpsghtm39tb.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2228_zps0cd2ajac.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20flanges/DSCF2228_zps0cd2ajac.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: frozennorth on January 17, 2017, 09:23:36 PM
Just finished reading through from the beginning, this is a really nice build; looking forward to seeing the finished article.. :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 18, 2017, 09:02:19 AM
Cheers, so push bar next, now this is one item that we do not need as the car has its own starter and is geared  low enough to start from a stand still unlike a real lakester. Plus I don't believe you can push start an automatic. So a simple frame work was made to bolt on behind the fuel tank to hold the push bar.
Started with notch in the fuel tank mount so we can fit a bracket behind it.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2233_zpsui2b7ugw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2233_zpsui2b7ugw.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2234_zpsz7f5um1f.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2234_zpsz7f5um1f.jpg.html)

Cut the already bent piece to length.
 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2235_zpsfw4rckkw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2235_zpsfw4rckkw.jpg.html)

Drilled a hole in the tail for the push bar.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2237_zpskk5eiisw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2237_zpskk5eiisw.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2238_zpsdtn8xcta.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2238_zpsdtn8xcta.jpg.html)

Made the 'T' bar which is to be removable for storage reasons, 8" is valuable hoarding room in lockup.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2239_zps3qkndsui.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2239_zps3qkndsui.jpg.html)

Bolted the plate to go behind the fuel tank mount to the chassis.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2240_zpsfc1mrv07.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2240_zpsfc1mrv07.jpg.html)

Welded top of frame to the bracket that goes behind fuel tank and a lower bar from the rear axle body mount.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2249_zpsckwnqctn.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2249_zpsckwnqctn.jpg.html)

All back to the rear .(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2250_zpsllsjhpn1.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2250_zpsllsjhpn1.jpg.html)

Looking like this.(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2248_zpsxh7la4ql.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2248_zpsxh7la4ql.jpg.html)

And fuel tank back in.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2251_zpsrepwvbkb.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2251_zpsrepwvbkb.jpg.html)

We now have a mount which I will shorten and drill a hole through for a retaining bolt to hold the 'T'bar.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2254_zpstxhftde5.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2254_zpstxhftde5.jpg.html)

And done. (ish)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2253_zps0bneh7qw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2253_zps0bneh7qw.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2252_zpsigaszt5o.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20mounts/DSCF2252_zpsigaszt5o.jpg.html)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 19, 2017, 06:44:47 PM
Pushed the car outside to get a look . Even though the car is not on level ground you can see the bottom needs more trimming so pushed back in and started strip down for marking up new cut line.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank/DSCF2257_zpsc3tb5r2x.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank/DSCF2262_zpscret7qq1.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank/DSCF2263_zpssdycdwpr.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: poprodder on January 19, 2017, 07:04:59 PM
not checked in for a while, omg amazing work. looks brilliant.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 19, 2017, 07:52:04 PM
Looks fabulous. So will you be leaving the bottom open to the road/track, or adding a flat floor panel?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: scannerzer on January 19, 2017, 08:56:57 PM
speechless...looks brilliant


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 20, 2017, 04:54:42 PM
Thanks for the positive comments. The floor is going to be flat with more vents in the side of the bottom body.
Pushed car over the pit and removed most of the internal parts so a new cut line  could be marked.
 (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2265_zpsuybql1qi.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2265_zpsuybql1qi.jpg.html)

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2266_zps1g9sbtoi.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2266_zps1g9sbtoi.jpg.html)

Then made sure car was level before putting a self leveling spinning laser thingy on a tripod in the pit with the laser shinning inside the body, not the best thing to take a picture off.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2272_zpsd8lsiy3b.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2272_zpsd8lsiy3b.jpg.html)


Lights back on and pit boards back in, and the perfect new cut line for a flat bottom.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2273_zpsqiswvd9t.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2273_zpsqiswvd9t.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2274_zpsnneg9rmq.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2274_zpsnneg9rmq.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2275_zpslmkamkyw.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2275_zpslmkamkyw.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2276_zpsjqstx3lm.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Kevin_Bingham/media/Bellytank%20cuts/DSCF2276_zpsjqstx3lm.jpg.html)





Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 20, 2017, 05:19:23 PM
Most of the fabrication is done now, most problems solved so stripped the rest down for final welding/grinding/shaping and tabs. Finish all that soon then paint and start the real build up.
May not be much to post unless you really want to literally watch paint dry. ;D
Only risk now, is if I get bored/distracted by something else, this may get parked up next to the trike and left for a bit (5 years) ::)
Apparently I am showing early signs of post project blues. ;D


(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF2280_zpslsuv1fgq.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF2282_zpsoznnbbnd.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Body/DSCF2284_zpsjqmq0ba5.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Archie on January 20, 2017, 05:30:57 PM
Looks absolutely rad, you must be stoked on it.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 20, 2017, 06:55:00 PM
Looks absolutely rad, you must be stoked on it.

Err.... Yeah, sweet innit bruv , laters. ;D

Yes, I am rather pleased.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 20, 2017, 08:03:22 PM
Sorry -Archie's our resident yoof. It's in the rules -we have to have one for every 10 old fogies.

Don't abandon it now please -I'm really looking forward to watching this run at Shakey this year -if you need a tow truck I might know of a V8 Pop pick-up that'll be at the Hotrod Drags & Nostalgia Nationals.  :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on January 20, 2017, 10:28:09 PM
No chance of stopping now, but the mind does wander.
Nearly did stop the whole project about a year ago when this stupid dog of mine jumped out the bedroom window resulting in a leg like this.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Pikey%20Dag/DSCF1621_zpsdn9o8zar.jpg)

No local vets could fix it so they sent me to these nice people. Fitzpatrick referrals.  The TV supervet.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Pikey%20Dag/DSCF1622_zpsz1tovcc8.jpg)

Who did this
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Pikey%20Dag/00000000_DICOM_DX_2016_04_19_0003844276_zpsjilzdzel.jpg)

Gave me back a drugged up dog like this.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Pikey%20Dag/DSCF1638_zpsn1ovnuga.jpg)

And told me to keep him in here for 8 weeks.  Yeah right oh.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Pikey%20Dag/DSCF1645_zpszefo1nyo.jpg)


Oh and a total bill (no insurance) of £3300...... :o

Project funds took a hammering.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 21, 2017, 07:20:50 AM
Ouch!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on January 21, 2017, 03:07:09 PM
Maybe, but you have obviously got your priorities right! and your build is classic, so...all is well with the world, and what's a little time, eh?...Morrag


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: KAD on January 29, 2017, 05:12:34 PM
Even being apart of this project from the start (and ever so slightly responsible for convincing Kev to do this over a roast dinner),
I still love to look back from the start and watch it build up again, and non of us can get over what we have created when its was outside..
For me its the friendship and memories made with these guys that stick out and cannot wait for it to be done; not only to drive it but I think its my projects turn for some attention ! lol

Gareth


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 29, 2017, 06:46:28 PM
 ;D Hiya mate.
Yup, can't beat a bit of shed camaraderie.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 05, 2017, 08:49:18 AM
Much progress has been made but am unable to upload pics from photobucket . This problem has been going on for days to the point that I no longer we be updating as I will not waste any more time with stupid bloody computers. Hate them.
So you may have to wait till its at the track to see the finished car.

Regards

Kev.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 05, 2017, 09:09:35 AM
No-o-o! We need to see more!
Email me the photos & I'll post them for you if you're having problems mate.

mankymonkeymotors@gmail.com


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 07, 2017, 07:27:53 PM
So, we are back but photobucket has lost everything, all gone. Great. >:(
Finished up the welding on the parts we could not get to before and cleaned up ready for paint.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF2293_zpsfq0twr9x.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF2286_zps28u2skhh.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Chassis/DSCF2303_zpsiujp6mf0.jpg)

Cleaned, etch primed and painted. Still need to flip over and paint below.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Paint/DSCF2308_zpsgrxvgs9s.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Paint/DSCF2309_zpsdpyrgh3o.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Paint/DSCF2313_zpsybwg6l3h.jpg)

Also made a start on the axles

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Paint/DSCF2316_zpsbqrl3mec.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Paint/DSCF2325_zpss3tm8bnl.jpg)


Hopefully there may be more to follow.

Kev.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: BikerGran on February 07, 2017, 09:29:44 PM
Just seen someone say elsewhere that Photbucket has been on the blink but his photos have reappeared, might be worth having another look!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 07, 2017, 09:32:26 PM
Glad you're still with us mate.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 07, 2017, 09:46:16 PM
Am back using photobucket at the moment but  every album has gone, nothing, so am reloading old and new pics again and slowly editing the old posts with new links. May take a few months to get it all back at this rate.
Anyways, cleaned and painted a few parts and finished the frame.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Paint/DSCF2328_zpsdzy87pvh.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2331_zpst8wmodrf.jpg)

And then started working out all the different nuts bolts and washers needed. All just finger tight at the moment but hopefully this is the start of the real build now. Just like a giant meccano toy really  ;D
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2332_zps0rgxhqrn.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2334_zps2gzlfsr9.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2336_zpszr3zrprx.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2337_zpsvvcaxr0l.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 07, 2017, 09:53:09 PM
I've forgotten -what was that steering rack from again? Looks way too cool to be Sherpa!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 08, 2017, 05:29:34 AM
Steering rack is from an off-road buggy website, can't remember might be 'Joyner' or something.  £250 inc the UJ's and steering wheel boss.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on February 08, 2017, 08:33:43 AM
Looking good sir,isn't it great to start putting it all back together again..


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 08, 2017, 06:37:22 PM
It's a bit of an odd feeling really as this is the furthest I have ever got in any project. A mixture of happiness seeing it come to life but also sort of sad now the challenge is coming to an end. I suppose if it was built for competition or record attempts we would only just be getting close to even starting the whole challenge. So just aiming to get to get to the end of the 1/4mile isn't too far away.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 08, 2017, 07:09:39 PM
Well I really hope you make it to the Nostalgia Nationals or Hotrod Drags this year cos I want a good nose around this -& to see it in action!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 09, 2017, 11:23:14 PM
Don't worry it will be done. Fitted front and rear axles , and the seat tonight. Celebrated the fact its back on its wheels with Portus gin and a slice of ginger root, very nice.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2340_zpsdqqef2sg.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2342_zpscoh0dfus.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2343_zpsuzwzppg0.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2345_zps9ss0i3cm.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2346_zpswghornkb.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on February 10, 2017, 12:11:02 AM
Pretty as the "drop tank"  is, it seems a shame to cover the inner workings up!!.very nicely done.... 8)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on February 10, 2017, 09:44:08 AM
Only one thing niggling me about this build, and it's just a safety thing..I would have made the hoop that supports the steering column stronger with some bracing, either tubing or gussets ( with holes of course ) ..please don't take it as a criticism ..it's a lovely build and like Mr M says shame it's all hidden..WELL DONE SIR.. 8)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 10, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
Please don't refrain from commenting on anything you see that we may have missed, all suggestions are helpful. Will have another look at the brace in the morning as you may be right. Sometimes you are so concentrated on one item you can't see the obvious boo-boo you are about to make.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: BikerGran on February 10, 2017, 04:53:20 PM
Glad I noticed the Sssssshhhhhhhh bottle in the drinkies pic - my first thought was HOW MUCH gin?  !!

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on February 10, 2017, 07:09:42 PM
I daren't. Drink G&T while building stuff..HIC ! 8)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 10, 2017, 09:54:34 PM
They were only 'little ones' you should see the 'Track Measures' we consume at the race track. ;D
And apparently 'you and the welder become one' after a couple of drinks and welds just flow, according to Mr Conner. ;)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 17, 2017, 01:33:57 PM
Had some edge trim left over so trimmed up the edges on the floor plate and fitted into chassis.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2352_zpslnxhhg0j.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2353_zpshpofodw0.jpg)

Also collected parts from the powder coaters.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2347_zpswdv6iedj.jpg)

And bolted on the first piece.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2354_zpshjcfhjnu.jpg)

And then got carried away and threw the rest on to see how it looks.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2355_zpsl0eugo3c.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2358_zpsuerbx225.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2361_zpsuf1imgcw.jpg)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2362_zpsflaa6kpg.jpg)

And celebrated with this, very nice.

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Build/DSCF2351_zpsljphy4fq.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 17, 2017, 01:39:20 PM
Wow -I wasn't expecting red. That really works doesn't it.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on February 17, 2017, 02:51:00 PM
Once again sir, do have any bracing for the radius rods where they attach to the chassis ? Lots of stress in that area ? ;) looking good though ?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 17, 2017, 03:32:46 PM
Well spotted on the bracing, there is supposed to be a brace between the two out riggers, front to back. Has not been fitted yet as we still have the lower air intakes to fit on the body and did not want to have them in position until that was done. Was also going to put a plate below the front out rigger at the same time. The rear out riggers and arms are just for show really as the axle is solidly mounted.
Been thinking about the front steering wheel cross bar, which will be getting an extra brace as we need a couple off tabs up there for some electrical items which we forgot about anyway.
Won't take long and a bit of paint and we shall be back on track.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 19, 2017, 09:46:34 AM
Made a lovely double rack of 'Headers' last night  ;D

(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg579/Kevin_Bingham/Bellytank%20Odds/DSCF2363_zpsoxxe2wr6.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 19, 2017, 12:32:33 PM
Delicious!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on February 19, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
What sort of temp would one cook these and do they taste good ?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 25, 2017, 09:48:21 PM
Painted the fuel tank

(http://i.imgur.com/rBtWNg1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/w8Py4Or.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 26, 2017, 10:34:06 AM
This really is a rather pretty build mate. Nice.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on February 26, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
Cheers, now braces and gussets. This will please someone ;D but  needed doing.
Outriggers needed a tube between them
(http://i.imgur.com/002EWQd.jpg)

Like so.
(http://i.imgur.com/3A0C5nX.jpg)

A little bit of CAD.
(http://i.imgur.com/R9m9DCz.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/09ly50o.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/giG5dya.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KT3Xo3f.jpg)

One side done on steering wheel support, and the other side

(http://i.imgur.com/vJICvjy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/iwtu86I.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lnd6K2m.jpg)

And the front body mounts
(http://i.imgur.com/umnZ3Cd.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tlnQx1i.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/H2uDRPR.jpg)

Little clean up and paint and soon back on track, just as well as engine is coming along.

(http://i.imgur.com/TR6TLeW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/kPpJjpz.jpg)




Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: stinkey on February 26, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
Certainly pleased me at least ? ;)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on February 26, 2017, 05:17:22 PM
Very nicely done, I do like this piece, really....................... ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: BikerGran on February 26, 2017, 09:38:11 PM
Certainly pleased me at least ? ;)

I was thinking that!!!   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on March 03, 2017, 12:19:34 AM
Cleaned up and painted the new bits
(http://i.imgur.com/OogVggY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NHyhyPi.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/plDDoDq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lTMSUvB.jpg)

Also removed the front spring to clean up, didn't want to paint so used this stuff, works really well.
(http://i.imgur.com/LyYZYLU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/67D5c3d.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TZVUr80.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2bWdql6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yuKbGSv.jpg)

Trimmed up the bottom body section
(http://i.imgur.com/kcemoRq.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vRWzMXQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uLoMHxx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gvL6U4W.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/t8juDzb.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on March 03, 2017, 12:29:47 AM
Brought a new kill switch for the dash

(http://i.imgur.com/B49w9T2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/6Dt6MLV.jpg)

Still have one more switch to fit yet but decided to 'bling' it up first

 (http://i.imgur.com/ROfbpaO.jpg)

Quick spray with clearcoat and soon back together.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: BikerGran on March 03, 2017, 11:10:43 AM
Oh that dash is pretty!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: minimutly on March 03, 2017, 05:33:58 PM
What spec is the engine going to be?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on March 03, 2017, 08:09:32 PM
The grate blacking's a good idea. Hadn't thought of that. Had the same problem with mine -how do you weather proof it cos paint will just rub off when the leaves move. I ended up greasing mine up & wrapping it in a vinyl sleeve, 30s touring car style.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on March 03, 2017, 08:55:14 PM
What spec is the engine going to be?

From memory as have been slowly buying parts

Rover V8 4.0 litre which we now believe to be from a defender?
Stump Puller cam (came with the block)
Standard heads but some special type of valves?
Uprated springs caps and shims
Edelbrock Manifold
Holley 390cfm carb
Rhodes hydraulic lifters
Coyles timing chain set
ARP udjustable pushrods
ARP headset
ARP manifold bolts
ARP header bolts
MSD distributor
Maybe some other bits as well.

Block and distributor are secondhand everything else brand new but purchased over time so not to make me cry when I add it all up. ;D





Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 15, 2017, 08:58:20 PM
So, been a while, had some bad news my dad was taken ill suddenly and diagnosed with terminal cancer. Not good, could have walked away from this so easily but have decided, Sod it!, I am going to do all 3 things this year. 1 Visit my dad as much as possible (330 mile round trip) 2. Finish this car 3. Go racing as much as possible.
But, if the worse happens, who knows.
On a happy note , life came and kicked me in the balls again and my van decided to start playing up- throttle position sensor- changed it fine 2 days later back again. Not funny when van will not accelerate above tickover at all and your on the M4. And needing a vehicle to visit dad at any moment spent £3400 on a (reliable)car and insurance. All this almost a year to the day the Dag took a swan dive out the window and cost £3300.
I really should not be spending on this car, but I need to finish it.

Anyways, on with the build.

Made a template of the roll hoop for the headrest.
(http://i.imgur.com/Eh9uZcv.jpg)

Bit of CAD design
(http://i.imgur.com/SscLuE0.jpg)

Piece of Ali for the back
(http://i.imgur.com/28tPfQG.jpg)

Foam cut to size
(http://i.imgur.com/ppOi9ri.jpg)

Ply cut to size
(http://i.imgur.com/7NtwqG9.jpg)

Found the top of the curve was separating
(http://i.imgur.com/yskoI9g.jpg)

Cut another one
(http://i.imgur.com/MeLz4zZ.jpg)

Test fitted before covering in foam.
(http://i.imgur.com/4rct3tf.jpg)

Fixings will be shortened and replaced with mushroom bolts once plate has been polished up a bit.
(http://i.imgur.com/LsQ1E6E.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 15, 2017, 10:08:52 PM
There's more important things than vehicles mate.
I've got a new lady in my life, but she's currently sat in a hospital in Brighton watching her 20 year old son in intensive care, (possible rejection of a bowel transplant). Yes, I'm on call if she needs me.
Life's short & the older you get, the more acutely aware of that you become. If the car takes your mind off things & makes you smile, do it, but if you need to do other stuff, it'll still be there when you come back.
Looking good. Really hope to see it out this year.  :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 15, 2017, 10:15:19 PM
Also cut a piece for the seat with hole for the harness.
(http://i.imgur.com/bacVhBj.jpg)

Took the bottom body to Jamie's workshop to put the flat bottom in.
(http://i.imgur.com/v8PF86N.jpg)

And then had a plan for something pointless and time consuming. Popped along to H.C.S Carpetcare Ltd and got talking to the owner Adrian about it. Turns out he trained as an Aircraft engineer but ended up running a carpet binding company and was really interested in the tank and offered me a length of Italian leather at a price I could not refuse. Thank you very much. Had the plan and gathered together the parts.
(http://i.imgur.com/WT9gVaA.jpg)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 15, 2017, 10:22:49 PM
There's more important things than vehicles mate.
I've got a new lady in my life, but she's currently sat in a hospital in Brighton watching her 20 year old son in intensive care, (possible rejection of a bowel transplant). Yes, I'm on call if she needs me.
Life's short & the older you get, the more acutely aware of that you become. If the car takes your mind off things & makes you smile, do it, but if you need to do other stuff, it'll still be there when you come back.
Looking good. Really hope to see it out this year.  :)

Life can be difficult sometimes but I must admit the last few days working on the car inbetween visiting dad has really lifted my spirits some what and given me something to do instead of pondering about the future.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 15, 2017, 10:43:14 PM
Leather is 4 1/2" wide which was too wide and I need one good edge so marked out 2" line
(http://i.imgur.com/2zIQP7u.jpg)

Then stuck a length of 1" double side tape
(http://i.imgur.com/Suc7dLO.jpg)

Peel back carefully, sticks like crazy to anything
(http://i.imgur.com/21Htuon.jpg)

Fold over to line
(http://i.imgur.com/PGLnAgx.jpg)

You only get one go with this tape and the natural backing to the leather
(http://i.imgur.com/IEXbdFk.jpg)

Done
(http://i.imgur.com/uHBh8Z1.jpg)

Other side
(http://i.imgur.com/297kERH.jpg)

Marked out every 1 1/2"
(http://i.imgur.com/fiw3SP5.jpg)

Punched out
(http://i.imgur.com/hiIUNNO.jpg)

4 mm Brass eyelets fitted
(http://i.imgur.com/UC8AXjr.jpg)

And now I have a finished edge to start with
(http://i.imgur.com/9As2rb5.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 15, 2017, 10:54:45 PM
Marked out the other side but did not turn the edge
(http://i.imgur.com/2x5RUql.jpg)

Finished side like this
(http://i.imgur.com/aKZ8kAU.jpg)

Told you it took a long time ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/jYkPPy9.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 16, 2017, 12:03:17 AM
Then the planets aligned and Mr Connor announced the engine was nearly ready and could be fitted.
Stuck the flywheel, torque converter and gearbox on and offered it up
(http://i.imgur.com/c7ZHqRO.jpg)

And it was in, hopefully for the last time.
(http://i.imgur.com/8TYl5nK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ETFP3EX.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 16, 2017, 12:18:00 AM
Back to the pointless plan.
Drilled some holes

(http://i.imgur.com/XjciMK1.jpg)

Lots of holes

(http://i.imgur.com/VFERI39.jpg)

Found by chance a suitable section of tube

(http://i.imgur.com/eEgA8UP.jpg)

Split down the side

(http://i.imgur.com/flVUlG1.jpg)

So far, so good

(http://i.imgur.com/R6Yw2sX.jpg)

Can you see the plan now?

(http://i.imgur.com/0ZcahCp.jpg)





Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 16, 2017, 09:53:53 AM
Test fit of the trim piece. Using string at the moment but have a length of para cord to use eventually or a piece of leather cord. The para cord can only be sown through the eyelet once where as the leather cord could be run back through the same holes which would give a continuous sow line. Also sowing through the holes twice would line up the eyelets a bit more than the string which is not very tight.
Might try a fatter piece of pipe or some padding on the final fit but looks okay at the moment.

(http://i.imgur.com/sgkzz6i.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QpPa3Cq.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/OaSs5pp.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5aXnme9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/oslxqGu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lCrKZMP.jpg)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 16, 2017, 10:14:16 AM
I like that.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: merv on April 16, 2017, 06:06:05 PM
me to


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 16, 2017, 06:47:55 PM
Made a tray behind the dash to mount the fuses and power block on, which will also act as a drip tray for the brake master cylinder
(http://i.imgur.com/0QS9TUj.jpg)

Simply bolted to the extra braces
(http://i.imgur.com/O5MPQa4.jpg)

Put some trim on the edges
(http://i.imgur.com/AMPulRd.jpg)

And the dash edge
(http://i.imgur.com/MJaZJ8T.jpg)

Checked the clearance of the fire wall, about 1"
(http://i.imgur.com/34QAAsA.jpg)

Bit more CAD design to modify the side panels to allow for the additional braces
(http://i.imgur.com/QiW5IO6.jpg)

Now fits nicely
(http://i.imgur.com/gjHWzSl.jpg)

Started the wiring
(http://i.imgur.com/s0O6Ib9.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wkNTiTw.jpg)

Had a little helper today
(http://i.imgur.com/bg1Frsr.jpg)

Bit more wiring done
(http://i.imgur.com/va6EyOu.jpg)

Lights work
(http://i.imgur.com/wMvjrPW.jpg)

Might finish wiring tomorrow or pop along to auto jumble in Newbury.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: spanners on April 16, 2017, 06:52:57 PM
real nice interesting build ,, i like it A LOT


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 18, 2017, 03:00:16 PM
Finished off the last circuit in the wiring, the start inhibit relay.

(http://i.imgur.com/RxNjlVl.jpg)

Need to Know car is in park and cannot be started but the start inhibitor on this gearbox was knackered and I am not willing to pay £80 for a new one as only need to know 1 position, not neutral or reverse as well.
So had this problem and a plan.
(http://i.imgur.com/mGUbcxx.jpg)

Little bit of CAD
(http://i.imgur.com/4Id9jPn.jpg)


Should fit like so
(http://i.imgur.com/LALmvn7.jpg)

Marked up a bit of ali sheet
(http://i.imgur.com/4L02jjD.jpg)

Cut out
(http://i.imgur.com/lYY0HUP.jpg)

Then used this push switch picked up from the auto jumble in Newbury yesterday
(http://i.imgur.com/CTEfhy4.jpg)

And mounted to the plate. Wired up to give a closed circuit which will then earth the start relay allowing the start button to be used. Just need to make a lever of the pivot point this evening and done. Total cost £ 2.
(http://i.imgur.com/85lac3a.jpg)




Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 18, 2017, 09:15:59 PM
Lever and little spacer made and secured with a nylock nut and it works.

(http://i.imgur.com/iAUMjci.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/k26ysOa.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on April 22, 2017, 04:47:50 PM
Felt sorry for the chaps kneeling round the car all the time so sourced an off cut
 (http://i.imgur.com/cxnODq5.jpg)

Hand made in Nepal 100% wool, probably worth more than the carpets in my house, but needs must.
 (http://i.imgur.com/M4aN1ml.jpg)

Made a start on the water pipes using what was to hand.
(http://i.imgur.com/4YAZuWo.jpg)

Looks ok, nice and simple, still need to find some better rubber hose ends and make a bracket for the expansion tank. Might not be the best pipe routes for a road car but will only be running for 5 mins at a time.

(http://i.imgur.com/rq0ztmH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rMX3abN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cPSfpaF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/m2HAwyy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/oteUVJI.jpg)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on April 22, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
Y'know, the more I read of this build the more I enjoy the fact that you move on to the next task,...& just, well, get on with it! regardless of the particular skills involved to achieve a result, and bingo, jobs a good 'un. really first class sir, and a rattling good story! although I hope your dog aint the Test Pilot!!...so, once again,very nicely done,(doing?), and I look forward to the next episode.. 8) 8) 8)..Morrag


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 11, 2017, 12:02:16 PM
Been really busy collecting the last few items to finish, takes so long sometimes to find just one part, but I think we are good now. Made a few brackets for the cooling system, will post pics later, and cleaned up the rocker covers because 'shiney means fast'
(http://i.imgur.com/sTUNbyJ.jpg)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 11, 2017, 12:27:23 PM
With Jamies help we put the bottom in the tank yesterday. Now this is not how Jamie's Dad (the boss) said to do it but how I planned to do it. Andy (the boss) was going to do a proper reinforced boat floor as that is what he is used too and poo-poo'ed my plan. So ignoring Andy's 35 years of boat building we started.

 2 sheets of ali checker plate laid on the floor with duct tape over the join and holes.
Cleaned with a wire brush and acetone the 2 coats of release wax
(http://i.imgur.com/YFj2MwJ.jpg)

Glass mat cut to size, did 2 layers of 600 in total
(http://i.imgur.com/0k0DGAX.jpg)

All layed up took about 30 mins start to finish
(http://i.imgur.com/tekmLpX.jpg)

Did not bother with gel coat or colour as will be painting anyway. Was worried all the gel would run out the edge and make a mess of the edge but looks ok at moment.
 (http://i.imgur.com/ov7VDXe.jpg)

This is what it looked like this morning, did it stick ?
(http://i.imgur.com/F4Hmk4A.jpg)

Nope popped right off and there was hardly and leakage round the edge.
(http://i.imgur.com/R94J2bE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/v3vagMT.jpg)

Cleaned up the edges with a flap disc and they just need a bit of filling with fibreglass filler and done. Next up is main power cables and water ways before fire up and break the cam in on saturday.................hopefully.

(http://i.imgur.com/x6QmnPX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/s9UUxZp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZCrlB1T.jpg)





Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 11, 2017, 01:08:41 PM
Woo hoo! -just in time to bring to the Basingstoke Transport Festival on Sunday!  ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 11, 2017, 03:36:00 PM
Woo hoo! -just in time to bring to the Basingstoke Transport Festival on Sunday!  ;D
Did think about bringing the bare chassis over as only down the road, but need a day off from it now and again. Will pop along in person though and say hello.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 11, 2017, 04:01:10 PM
That'd be nice. We'll be the scruffy lot, eating cake & making the place look untidy.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Clive on May 11, 2017, 05:02:25 PM
That's some ridiculously neat, and great, work!!!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 11, 2017, 11:14:55 PM
As promised the boring little bits,

Bracket for the water pipe from the radiator, just above oil filter
 (http://i.imgur.com/YiiEMwp.jpg)

Bracket for return to radiator, on other side below distributor
(http://i.imgur.com/8fm05RO.jpg)

Holder for the expansion tank and water pipes
(http://i.imgur.com/Hntd18R.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/j2sD0gH.jpg)

Mounted the pressure regulator and fuel lines
(http://i.imgur.com/CSSMoHE.jpg)

Re-positioned the fuel pump to the correct orientation
(http://i.imgur.com/dM0n8EC.jpg)

Twin springs for the accelerator cable
(http://i.imgur.com/xQwfGpR.jpg)

Made the pigs tail for the fuel tank, still need to make a gasket.
(http://i.imgur.com/l3S3HSW.jpg)

That's all for tonight, catch can, final electrics and water hoses tomorrow and hopefully ready for fire up Saturday.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on May 12, 2017, 07:08:16 PM
Very nice terry, as ever, but possibly some anti-vibration mounts along the runs where your brackets are, spring carriers or "cotton reels", might be worth thinking about? Morrag


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: spanners on May 12, 2017, 07:23:38 PM
dont want to sound like i,m trying to teach  grandmother to suck eggs,, but  ,please,, prime the oil pump  before attemping to start her ,, best done by removing dizzy and inserting an adapter drive shive shaft and spinning the pump up with a cordless drill


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 12, 2017, 08:44:09 PM
dont want to sound like i,m trying to teach  grandmother to suck eggs,, but  ,please,, prime the oil pump  before attemping to start her ,, best done by removing dizzy and inserting an adapter drive shive shaft and spinning the pump up with a cordless drill

Did that last night till we had oil up to the top of the engine. Also found out the oil pressure gauge works but not the sender to the light, picking one up from AtoZ in morning.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 12, 2017, 08:46:38 PM
Very nice terry, as ever, but possibly some anti-vibration mounts along the runs where your brackets are, spring carriers or "cotton reels", might be worth thinking about? Morrag

Could you explain in detail so that a 'numpty like me' can understand please ?
 


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 12, 2017, 08:57:07 PM
So catch can next, used an old fire extinguisher bottle and a bit of sheet steel. Pictures tell the story.
(http://i.imgur.com/ktO1Emu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/eIeXBDH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xxQP85L.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3mirddH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TVWcSWM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4rV9uc5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9yw1fVz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/x7k3YEL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aK7YWbu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/u4pVbEJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cKa5t5D.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pWUyXPR.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2wGMk60.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SJ3xXA2.jpg)

Lick of paint and a bit of cork to seal the top and done. ;D


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 12, 2017, 09:08:44 PM
Thermostat bypass hose, also known as a pain in the @rse to find so cobbled this together for now.
(http://i.imgur.com/Q5meEt8.jpg)

Extended the expansion tank input pipe work.
(http://i.imgur.com/yXL99dh.jpg)

Radiator hoses done.
(http://i.imgur.com/LZ6yPnl.jpg)

And pressure tested, found a couple of leaks, nothing major nipped up a few bits and all was well.
(http://i.imgur.com/0ZjvAXz.jpg)

Few things to sort in the morning and then hopefully fireup and break the cam in at !3:00 hrs. :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on May 12, 2017, 09:45:44 PM
The simplest method would be to replace the top clamp of your pipe clamps with a coil, tension spring, which would allow for slight movement due to any vibration/motor shift and temperature rise expansion of the copper pipe, although for the very short time you will actually be running, It could be overkill, I suppose. The rubber mount alternative would be metal bonded rubber anti-vibration mounts, which you can get in varying degrees of "stiffness" and interpose them between clamp and engine, instead of the fixed threated mounts that you have, but like I say, possibly overkill. Wait and see how much movement is seen when up and running, just a thought for what its worth Terry....Morrag


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: spanners on May 13, 2017, 12:20:53 AM
Very nice terry, as ever, but possibly some anti-vibration mounts along the runs where your brackets are, spring carriers or "cotton reels", might be worth thinking about? Morrag

Could you explain in detail so that a 'numpty like me' can understand please ?
 

if you get some little ruggur ,,bobbins, that have rubber in the middle and a thread each end  and put them inbetween the pipe clamp and the rigid mounting point (engine block)  it will take the viabration  and allow for a small amount of expansion , the normal size are more common on the rear of exhuasts on old mini,s and have a 5/16 unf thread , later  m8 and smaller ones can be found on landrover 90/110 air filters and have an m6 thread


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 13, 2017, 04:26:32 AM
Morrag, Spanners thanks for that, will keep in mind if we have problems.
Can you post film clips to this site as may have something to show later ?


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 13, 2017, 01:22:04 PM
I usually post them on YouTube, then cut n paste the link here.
Can't wait to see this move under it's own steam! :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 13, 2017, 05:17:09 PM
https://youtu.be/rfZeeGvTNfw

Breaking in the Cam for 20 mins before testing gearbox.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 13, 2017, 05:49:26 PM
And Mr Connor having the first go, Steering rack needed adjusting as was too tight, all fine now.
Couple of leaks and a small airlock but all fixed. Oil pressure sender to gauge packed up half way through break in period so will have to fine suitable replacement. Oil light still works as on different sender, also need to modify top water tubes with bleed nipples and source better jubilee clips. But it runs and stops so paint next as less than 2 weeks to go.
https://youtu.be/_cYYwxA6Q-o


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on May 13, 2017, 06:14:33 PM
 E Bay No.( 292058831802 )  I bought some of these S/S hose/ exhaust clips on E Bay recently and found them an excellent alternative to Jubilee clips.They are called Zero clips, and UK made by Spengineering Ltd, check them out, Morrag


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: spanners on May 13, 2017, 07:01:58 PM
excellant,, :) :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 13, 2017, 07:39:20 PM
Bloomin' brilliant! :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Stix on May 15, 2017, 01:41:04 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=292058831802&_sacat=0


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: kapri on May 15, 2017, 03:19:33 PM
Look up Mikalor as they are the make .These used to be mega expensive aircraft industry only but have come down in price vastly.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: spanners on May 15, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
Look up Mikalor as they are the make .These used to be mega expensive aircraft industry only but have come down in price vastly.

i,v got an assortment of them,, found them in an odd add on ebay for motorcycle exhaust clamps/parts,, ::) ::)

they are also used alot in the food industry  in factory fittings and especially on  milk tankers


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 15, 2017, 10:14:36 PM
My garage buddy -another Postie who's into motorcycles & VWs & rents the garage opposite mine, which I used to rent, needed some clamps for his trailbike exhaust last week. I showed him the stainless Mikalor clamps on my Rover motor & he bought some. I just think they look nicer than Jubilee clips & clamp up better.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 20, 2017, 08:46:35 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions chaps. Have ordered some genuine jubilee clips for now but will order some mikalor clamps once I am sure of the correct sizes needed.
Unfortunately my Dad passed away yesterday morning. Nothing more I can do now, but one thing he said to me recently was 'do what you want to do, as long as you are happy'. So with Nick,Chris and Gareths help and in memory of Dad this car will be finished and run down the track at Gary's Picnic next weekend.
So, down the workshop and break out me favourite tool the shrinker/stretcher and made up the last of the flanges on the lower body.
(http://i.imgur.com/3vA75KA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HP2MFoZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ws5N7zg.jpg)
Also made a pair of vents for the air intakes on the lower body
(http://i.imgur.com/s4NQFfj.jpg)
And that was it, the last pieces made (hopefully) and then collected all the panels together ready to start prepping for painting on saturday morning.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 20, 2017, 09:52:46 PM
Really sorry to hear that mate. My Dad gave me exactly the same advice before he passed away. It's a shame it takes us so long to realise that's the way we should live, but if we listen to the advice then it was worth it.
Fingers crossed you get done in time & looking forward to the race report :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 21, 2017, 05:53:31 AM
Yesterday was a good day, we managed to get the whole car painted. We had a head start after working till 10pm on friday rubbing down the panels so saturday was all painting but worth it.
Bottom body prepped and with the new air intakes cut out.
(http://i.imgur.com/X5uKJvO.jpg)
And the rest of them.
(http://i.imgur.com/ggTQNJg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pi1zsGR.jpg)
Etch-primed.
(http://i.imgur.com/GTb3Odo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9JdwYVx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sLH7cXn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LOJ2cTZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4qC2Z4E.jpg)
Bottom painted
(http://i.imgur.com/uSPb0Tb.jpg)
Spine painted
(http://i.imgur.com/uC9KSYl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pMkCs9V.jpg)
Top covers getting some colour
(http://i.imgur.com/WTQpIJt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1xFT0kg.jpg)
Masking up the top sections befor adding the black.
(http://i.imgur.com/ERjxg2R.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9e2qY3j.jpg)
Have no pictures of the top being sprayed as I popped home to walk my dog and then came back to the workshop to be greeted by this.... ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/uLh5Aef.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FVYpivE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qgyDkUm.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 21, 2017, 07:35:25 AM
Cool!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 22, 2017, 09:34:35 PM
Started putting the trim on the nose this afternoon using the leather cord and doubling back through the eyelets, didn't like the look so removed and started again this time using the 3mm para-cord I originally bought. Should have stuck with my first idea but it turned out quite well in the end.
(http://i.imgur.com/IbQSQYf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jAxTc3V.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vmUV0rM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/QH2D8EK.jpg)

Took the painted body panels back to the lock up and hoisted the car in the air in order to slide the bottom piece in.
(http://i.imgur.com/bngjhZH.jpg)

And then gently placed the rest of the panels on in order to get an idea of the look of the car, camera died after 1 pic.
(http://i.imgur.com/cFJCH65.jpg)

Start bolting it all back together in the morning. Going racing Friday.


                                  Build a race car, they said. It will be fun they said......


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 23, 2017, 10:06:50 AM
 ;D You love it, you know you do!
Gary's Picnic this weekend? One of our occasional forum members, Chris, (Forgotten)'s rushing to get his Chevy S10 ready for it.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: scannerzer on May 23, 2017, 09:54:25 PM
i do like the leather trim around the cockpit opening


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 23, 2017, 10:37:20 PM
i do like the leather trim around the cockpit opening
Cheers, spent far too much time and energy on that one bit.
Busy day today, started by adjusting the outrigger plate holes before bolting them on first
(http://i.imgur.com/ysknhk4.jpg)

First bolts in
(http://i.imgur.com/1dg6qQV.jpg)

Adjusting other side
(http://i.imgur.com/Hjg6rKL.jpg)

And cleaned up
(http://i.imgur.com/LQ8QDu5.jpg)

Chose a spot for the outside kill switch
(http://i.imgur.com/tuwGz4s.jpg)

Here, fitted
(http://i.imgur.com/kWaM2cJ.jpg)

And then had a call from Tom from Adenville Metal Finishers, the parts I dropped off about 10:30 yesterday where done, it was only 9:30 the next day. 23hr turn around  ;D so dashed over to collect them like an excited school boy.
 (http://i.imgur.com/d3HAyzF.jpg)

Started bolting on the parts
Rear axle lower body

(http://i.imgur.com/iIMr1kU.jpg)

Lower air intake
(http://i.imgur.com/EkjeiH8.jpg)

Exhaust vent in upper body
(http://i.imgur.com/C5fieyP.jpg)

Front spring and shock opening in nose section
(http://i.imgur.com/v7mgNbU.jpg)

Erm.......
(http://i.imgur.com/sJpDQBh.jpg)

Front axle opening in lower body
(http://i.imgur.com/HGBrBPR.jpg)

Front body mount
(http://i.imgur.com/RNRpemc.jpg)

And then disaster, ran out of fixing and sc###fix no longer stock them any more so need to find some more asap.
More to follow.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 24, 2017, 03:47:15 PM
Drew's the Ironmonger in Reading saved the day and now have all the fixings needed to finish
(http://i.imgur.com/Ug8DROS.jpg)
Started bolting parts on again.
Rear axle on lower body
(http://i.imgur.com/N1Srt7K.jpg)

Air intake lower body
(http://i.imgur.com/UjKnQm2.jpg)

Front axle lower body
(http://i.imgur.com/Fj10L5j.jpg)

Air vent on engine cover
(http://i.imgur.com/aPnoxJU.jpg)

Fuel flap re-fitted, kind of grown on me now so will not be changing.
(http://i.imgur.com/JujtFFB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fld47pE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aeCuhpa.jpg)

Also put a piece of rubber around live terminal of battery so that it will not short out if it comes loose
(http://i.imgur.com/xXzX0Sg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/y8pqa4D.jpg)

And another bit by the starter motor terminals (not tight)
(http://i.imgur.com/zrP2VKL.jpg)

This evening I need to modify the headrest as too restrictive to air flow into the carb intake.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ru9qmm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hvdWPpu.jpg)

And put the firewall in
(http://i.imgur.com/j9atB3E.jpg)



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 24, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
Looks bloomin' brilliant!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 24, 2017, 10:26:17 PM
Tonight we had an epic battle with the firewall, not so easy with the engine and body on now. First part took ages working out the where to put the fixings and then finding out you can't get a drill in there now.
First bit
(http://i.imgur.com/5Kkn8FE.jpg)

Sussed it for the second bit
(http://i.imgur.com/n7zB2lN.jpg)

And the last bit, also reduced the size of the headrest
(http://i.imgur.com/6VvdgNx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mDH1EpD.jpg)

Still more to do but, that's for tomorrow. 


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 24, 2017, 10:37:33 PM
Lovely.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 26, 2017, 12:59:34 AM
Well that was a long day, finished at half past midnight tonight. Lots of little jobs but took so long.
Accelerator springs re-fitted on carb and everything else checked.
(http://i.imgur.com/copN14q.jpg)

System filled up and bled easily through these 2 bleed nipples we fitted to each of the water ways after the weekends test run.

(http://i.imgur.com/LuQn1My.jpg)

Fan fitted to rad with horrible little fixings supplied(may make a shroud later)

(http://i.imgur.com/OIfTiO1.jpg)

New oil pressure gauge fitted, changed from electric to capillary.

(http://i.imgur.com/KZtN1vg.jpg)

Made the air intake to the carb, not finished in this picture.

(http://i.imgur.com/kf2IjCf.jpg)

Cleaned the blue protective cover off the tyre's.

(http://i.imgur.com/thTn6Gc.jpg)

And spent the rest of the day setting up the front end, balancing the wheels and doing the tracking.
Then put the stickers on

 (http://i.imgur.com/UKvZpEo.jpg)

And done !....... but you will have to wait to see....... ;D





Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 26, 2017, 05:06:12 AM
Such a cool looking machine.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 26, 2017, 10:13:10 AM
Loaded on the truck last night, notice the time on the clock in the back ground ? Long day but worth cannot thank Nick, Chris, Gareth and Jon enough for yesterday.
Bound for Shakey. ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/1cGXaR7.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Clive on May 26, 2017, 03:00:48 PM
Outstanding work buddy!!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 26, 2017, 06:46:21 PM
Fantastic! Good luck at the track! :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Archie on May 27, 2017, 07:16:34 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/archie837/D055ECEF-1CC2-41D6-911A-7E05ABC17497.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/archie837/media/D055ECEF-1CC2-41D6-911A-7E05ABC17497.jpg.html)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: spanners on May 27, 2017, 07:20:29 PM
what did it go like ??


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 27, 2017, 09:26:48 PM
First run at 87mph.
Such a cool looking thing.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 29, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
Best time's so far 12.95s @104.6mph / 13.10 @ 106.7. ;D



Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 29, 2017, 05:49:31 PM
Fantastic!


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: BikerGran on May 29, 2017, 09:05:20 PM
..........................


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on May 30, 2017, 07:37:27 AM
https://youtu.be/P-AZhQsNIA4

First run. Mr Conner was the test pilot for the first couple of runs with Chris going next. Not that I didn't want the maiden voyage but as a thank you for their help I let the chaps have a go first. We all wear different helmets, Nick (red) Chris (black) Kev (white). Everyone's run was a buttock clencher started of with 15psi in rear wheels and then 10psi. Result- all over the place just over half track. Rear wheels back up to 25psi and a bit more tow in at the front and out again, much better at half track back end not so twitchy but at the top of the track it pulls to the left( which is fun) Started of at 17s@87mph and ended up with 13.1s@106mph. Very happy with the performance so far but we are going to be remaking the hairpin mounts so we have even more adjustment as we are maxed out at the moment.
Should only take a couple of days as we have already decided on the design. So the build continues.....


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 30, 2017, 02:35:08 PM
Excellent! :)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: morrag on May 30, 2017, 06:15:04 PM
Very well done y'all, impressive......................


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: poprodder on May 30, 2017, 07:16:53 PM
well done guys. 8)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: twisted on May 31, 2017, 10:18:13 AM
superb, well done  ;)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on June 04, 2017, 12:49:31 PM
Made a start on the modifications, had to make a cradle to support the frame as we have no jacking point at the front.
(http://i.imgur.com/r58e92p.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kV42SBm.jpg)
In the above picture you can see the toilet handle shifter which is still to be finished off. Will post more about that later.

Just needed to take some weight of the front end so the hairpin mounts can be removed
(http://i.imgur.com/T2sScCb.jpg)

Going to be using this bit of angle, nice and chunky.
(http://i.imgur.com/73Bz8jo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/knXrizU.jpg)

That's all for now have Dad's funeral tomorrow which will be tough and then get back into doing these changes as soon as possible as Nostalgia Nationals not far away and we intend on taking the Trabant racing next weekend.
Placed a car cover over the bellytank while its in the garage and could not help but to start thinking about a re-body maybe.......
(http://i.imgur.com/Qr9KqbB.jpg)


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: TerryFwit on June 13, 2017, 10:20:21 PM
Lost interest in the car, just could not be bothered at the moment. Mentioned to Nick and the others that I may not go to the Nostalgia Nationals next weekend.
Well, you could have heard a pin drop.
Group huddle, pep talk, decision made, we have 1 week to re-do the front end and go racing.
So this afternoon started on the mounts by marking out and drilling the 4 holes.
(http://i.imgur.com/eL1NYEX.jpg)
And then started trimming and shaping.
(http://i.imgur.com/uX4iSxj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CL2rccm.jpg)
Ending up with this
(http://i.imgur.com/RrPwIKR.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4Hx3HQW.jpg)
Slight difference in this version with the shock mount being moved.
(http://i.imgur.com/aqRBFE6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/OwWMsEb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YpEyNQF.jpg)
And Mr Conner had a little play with one of his favourite tools.
(http://i.imgur.com/YfudVyb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wbtC0yJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SsvQFEY.jpg)
A 5 degree wedge to go under the spring, still needs holes drilled in it yet.
Finish them off tomorrow afternoon and them give to Tom for powder coating and we should be able to reassemble and align over the weekend hopefully and then final prep and load up next Thursday.

                                  Build a race car they said, it will be fun they said.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 14, 2017, 12:33:42 PM
 ;D Looking forward to seeing it on the track next weekend.
I've got 7 degrees in the spring perch on my Pop, for normal road use.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Stix on November 01, 2017, 02:52:40 PM
Any further progress on this???
Stix


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 01, 2017, 07:03:20 PM
There's a full feature on it in the new, (December '17), issue of Custom Car magazine.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 01, 2017, 07:03:58 PM
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Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 01, 2017, 07:04:56 PM
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Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 01, 2017, 07:05:29 PM
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Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 01, 2017, 07:06:01 PM
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Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Stix on November 01, 2017, 07:58:04 PM
Cheers Andy but not seen a CC over here .


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 01, 2017, 08:12:56 PM
I can find you one & post it to you if you like.


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Stix on November 01, 2017, 10:22:29 PM
Very kind of you Andy but not for me thanks I can get most of what I want to read on the net and looking at the for sale adds will only get me wanting what I can't have.😱😱👍


Title: Re: D72 British Bellytank
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 02, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
:)