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Technical Section => HotRod Tech => Topic started by: the coppersmith on July 18, 2016, 04:15:46 PM



Title: hot rod build
Post by: the coppersmith on July 18, 2016, 04:15:46 PM
would this be legal? standard chassis and suspension, rebodied. I know where it is, Ive seen it before, so why aint it selling?  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1932-Ford-Pick-up-Hot-Rod-Rat-Rod-Unfinished-Project-on-Scimitar-Chassis-/142057561993?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: stinkey on July 18, 2016, 04:29:04 PM
My guess is because he's cut the chassis about ?


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: phunkie hiboy on July 18, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
My guess is because he's cut the chassis about ?

Sorry, am I missing something here? Where does it say he's cut the chassis about? Scimitars came with double "A" arm and five link suspensions as standard, so no modifications there. Also had rack and pion steering as standard.


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: poprodder on July 18, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
looks to be a straightforward rebody.


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: kapri on July 18, 2016, 07:16:04 PM


SE5 chassis

(http://www.nsra.org.uk/newforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=18647&stc=1&d=1340747750)

SE6 chassis is 6 inches wider .


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: Stix on July 18, 2016, 07:24:51 PM
It does look like the outer perimeter of the frame has been cut off.

Stix


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: kapri on July 18, 2016, 07:26:20 PM
Also says has V5 document rather than V5C , may be nomenclatureerror or not. Certianly won't be able to do a rebody IF not already in Historic class as it's been clamped right down on. IE In Historic then rebody possible if no chassis mods, if not in Historic then won't be allowed to enter if body swap already done .


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: kapri on July 18, 2016, 07:27:23 PM
It does look like the outer perimeter of the frame has been cut off.

Stix


I've 'participated' in many Scimitar chassis swaps so I know which bodies fit and how. ;)


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: Stix on July 18, 2016, 07:46:28 PM
So stinky was right this time, surprising how many cars and reliant trikes are being offloaded just recently, maybe they are starting to listen to you Kev  ;D ;D ;D

Would running boards have covered the removed parts if they have been removed??

Stix


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: scannerzer on July 18, 2016, 08:40:37 PM
so if the frame has been chopped what does that mean,it would need sva'd.it's nowhere near finished so would that be all that big a deal given the price? or am i missing something


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: poprodder on July 19, 2016, 05:54:26 AM
my mistake, sorry everyone.   :-[


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: kapri on July 19, 2016, 08:38:44 AM
So stinky was right this time, surprising how many cars and reliant trikes are being offloaded just recently, maybe they are starting to listen to you Kev  ;D ;D ;D

Would running boards have covered the removed parts if they have been removed??

Stix

Yup, seen them done using untouched chassis with a running board and full fender with a blister for front suspension. Not trad' enough for many but still a simpler way to legally have a rod. BIVA for rods isn't that difficult but can be daunting to the newcomer.


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: kapri on July 19, 2016, 08:41:05 AM
so if the frame has been chopped what does that mean,it would need sva'd.it's nowhere near finished so would that be all that big a deal given the price? or am i missing something

Most don't won't to BIVA and are wary of the cut chassis . If you are willing to actual USE BIVA then it is a cheap project . Light trucks come under N1 rules and though nowhere near as lax as the old commercial SVA  there are quite a few get outs for exterior radius.


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: stinkey on July 20, 2016, 02:34:07 PM
My guess is because he's cut the chassis about ?
i never said the chassis WAS cut ? But I couldn't see the outriggers etc ? So I GUESSED it ? ::)

Sorry, am I missing something here? Where does it say he's cut the chassis about? Scimitars came with double "A" arm and five link suspensions as standard, so no modifications there. Also had rack and pion steering as standard.


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: Olds on July 20, 2016, 05:17:11 PM
Agree with Kev here. If you are willing to go the BIVA route and are not worried about traditional looks, then it could be a good starting point. Hope whoever buys it has a realistic idea as to what it will take to finish and get it on the road.
If the price goes too high, then you know they probably don't.


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: Olds on July 30, 2016, 07:53:23 AM
Well it sold, then didn't and now it's back on ebay again.
Similar projects on ebay
 32 roadster on a similar Scimitar chassis but it does have engine and trans etc.
 32 roadster on a "pop chassis" with Viva front suspension and Jag solid axle with 4 bars and coil overs.

Wonder if folk have started to hear about modified chassis and the requirement for BIVA


Title: Re: hot rod build
Post by: stinkey on July 30, 2016, 08:01:05 AM
My son keeps saying to me. "dad look at this,what do you think ?" I just reply..it's illegal or it won't pass the test that's why it's for sale ?  I think he's seeing sense now ?