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Technical Section => HotRod Tech => Topic started by: poprodder on May 12, 2015, 05:22:11 PM



Title: "Old Dorg"
Post by: poprodder on May 12, 2015, 05:22:11 PM
 :o



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 12, 2015, 05:44:57 PM
Ooooh! I'm interested already.  :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 12, 2015, 06:05:07 PM
would love to fit dual wheels at the rear.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 12, 2015, 07:44:01 PM
been offered free engine and box  ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 12, 2015, 08:25:08 PM
Wow, that's a result!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 12, 2015, 08:27:06 PM
just got to sort logistics to pick it up. its north of birmingham.

strange considering rolling chassis is coming from south birmingham tomorrow!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 12, 2015, 09:02:48 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: scannerzer on May 12, 2015, 09:06:50 PM
would love to fit dual wheels at the rear.


ohhhh do it !! 8)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 12, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
trying to find out if theres a 2wd gearbox that fits the 2.25 petrol engine.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: scannerzer on May 13, 2015, 06:09:36 AM
they arn't permenent 4wd so i'de leave it but a transit engine and box maybe and also twin wheel back axle. im pictureing some thing from mad max!

oh or something from these guys  http://www.welderup.com/ (http://www.welderup.com/)



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 13, 2015, 09:26:41 AM
i might go for a homemade body. :o


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 13, 2015, 06:02:00 PM
British truck cab? Cheaper than American if you can a decent one. Scottie the hotrod haulier's building a Bedford J series with shortened bed.
One of these.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 13, 2015, 07:20:46 PM


chassis delivered today, in far better condition than expected.

repair needed on n/s chassis rail on inside and bottom. think it'll be a tad easier to repair than the 2cv!!!

heres a few pics, battery was placed on there to show some progress!!!!  lol

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c11d73d.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c18613c.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c1b8fd1.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c1f343c.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c2f25b3.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c3d3e2a.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c39b4a0.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 13, 2015, 07:26:09 PM
room for lowering?

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c235d85.jpg)

repairs needed on n/s chassis rail inside and underneath.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c418a4d.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c4534d5.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55553a0c48b96e.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: scannerzer on May 13, 2015, 07:46:11 PM
not bad at all mine needs much the same but on the rh rail at the spring hanger but i want to save it if i can as it's original


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 13, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
Looks alright. Please, please keep this one!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 13, 2015, 08:44:52 PM
Yes dad!!! Lol


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 14, 2015, 04:06:38 PM
started stripping springs and shocks off chassis so i can turn it over to repair.
no pics yet, no progress now until tomorrow afternoon as wedding anniversary today so got to be a good boy tonight!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 16, 2015, 06:07:43 PM
i spent some of the afternoon(after work) dismantling the chassis.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a5105b2.jpg)
axles and springs!!!!


(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a459bda.jpg)
and chassis, seperated. its a heavy old bugger to move on ya own!!!!


(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a4c881d.jpg)
little bit of chassis rot!!!!


(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a577204.jpg)
and more!!!


(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a5af46f.jpg)
hole near rear spring hanger.


(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a425ce4.jpg)
and the only other bit i could find.


(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a375b13.jpg)
steel ready to start repairs.


(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a491164.jpg)
got a free wheeling hub on one side.


(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555783a3e577b.jpg)
and this on other!!!!! got a replacement on the way, think i might need to renew bearings as well!!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 18, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555a146315982.jpg)
a bit of rust.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555a1463642d8.jpg)
hole!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555a146397104.jpg)
clean inside.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555a1463ca5f8.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555a14640a9d9.jpg)
not pretty but does the job.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555a14643e74a.jpg)


just a small repair on other side then one near rear shackle mount.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: BikerGran on May 19, 2015, 01:20:30 PM
There seems to be a mysterious magnetic attraction between you and rust!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 19, 2015, 01:43:32 PM
There seems to be a mysterious magnetic attraction between you and rust!


 ;D

soon be gone, just doing the rear spring hanger at the moment.
then clean and paint, turn over weld other side, clean then paint etc.
soon be back on its wheels.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 19, 2015, 02:07:28 PM
All looks a bit more do-able than the Citroen anyway.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 19, 2015, 04:40:41 PM
sure is andy.

bit more progress, this is not a mega money build, so after welding(forgot pics of rear spring hanger repair, but it got ratrher involved!!!) i started cleaning chassis up, and out came paint and brush. had 2 tins on the shelf so thought why not.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555b6523844e1.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555b65231526b.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5555b65507cba2.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 19, 2015, 07:07:03 PM
Nice colour!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 19, 2015, 07:24:04 PM
i thought so, hope i've enough as had tins on shelf for a few years!!! hammerite smooth aubergine.
don't know if they still do the colour.

just got an original steering column and mount, just to find a front bulkhead and seat base.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 20, 2015, 05:08:52 PM
more cleaning and painting done, (mrs at work so won't get a bollocking for stinking house out lol!!!!)

found out that hammerite don't do the colour now!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 20, 2015, 05:36:51 PM
Yeah that figures! Maybe do it in black Hammerite, then blow a couple of coats of something more colourful over the top afterwards?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 20, 2015, 05:51:57 PM
might get some stone chip black, never going to be a show queen!!!!!! that purple is rather shocking!!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 20, 2015, 07:34:21 PM
Isn't that the point? Be different.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 22, 2015, 02:27:42 PM
got the chassis turned over, cleaned up area to be welded, found another bad repair near rear so cleaned that off.
welded 75% of that then ran outa wire!!! bumhats.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on May 22, 2015, 09:21:14 PM
the ,boys, gone mad ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,TOTALLY MAD  ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 23, 2015, 05:10:40 PM
found a pic of the rough look i'm going for.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55560b36ee5089.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55560b36e766be.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 23, 2015, 07:08:43 PM
also welding repairs finished on chassis.
got to clean and paint axles, springs etc and fit new bushe,s to get back to a rolling chassis.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 23, 2015, 07:41:57 PM
Have you got a body for it then Chris?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on May 23, 2015, 08:45:39 PM
chris  send v8jimmy a pm  on the other channel  he had a cab but dont think it had doors ,, but do you really need em   :D :D :D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 25, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
back on its wheels, been working out body dimensions. not going to be to bad.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 26, 2015, 02:22:32 PM
Suppose I had better get the ball rolling on the paperwork!!! i hate paperwork.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55564817f5ea92.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on May 26, 2015, 04:08:44 PM
 Hmm may be a few gaps in the report at the moment. Most folk would get to the rolling chassis with engine stage, before starting that Chris, or have you been a busy boy and not told us. ;) ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 26, 2015, 04:23:58 PM
thought i'd make a start on it, rather than leave everything until last.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 29, 2015, 02:25:46 PM
got the v5c back, found chassis number on chassis. everything matches.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 29, 2015, 05:49:50 PM
That's a good start. All looking good so far.  :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 31, 2015, 01:25:01 PM
oops...............just ordered more steel!!!! ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: JayJay on May 31, 2015, 01:33:00 PM
... battery was placed on there to show some progress!!!!  lol

Nearly finished then!  :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 31, 2015, 04:28:58 PM
 :D  yep  ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on May 31, 2015, 06:04:25 PM
steering box/column mounted.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556b4b90ad508.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556b4b907a4f7.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556b4b90461ed.jpg)

and some parts for doors!!!!! 

chrome handles have been on shelf for 10yrs plus. hinges and latches are cheap budget items. no mega bling stuff here!!!!!  lol

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556b4b90e4452.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: kapri on May 31, 2015, 08:20:15 PM
I LIKE the hinges, where were they sourced Europa ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 01, 2015, 04:30:27 AM
hi kev, no off ebay, £9 a pair. user name kitcar.crazy

a little cheaper than europa.

cheers chris.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 01, 2015, 04:39:24 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221762417616?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

i believe same as shaun used on his pop.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 01, 2015, 04:57:02 AM
Look like moggy traveller rear hinges, but with those there is a slight angular difference between top and bottom though.
£9 a pair, is a good price.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: markju on June 01, 2015, 07:59:27 AM
They look very much like the door hinges on my old landrover 90 I used to have. And those larger catches definitely look like landrover bits.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 01, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
Somewhere I should have layout drawings for fitting a Morris 1000 body on a series III chassis. Though God knows where they are now, as they were done in the early 80s.
I know where the chassis drawings are (I think  :-\) but can't recall if it was a SWB or a cut down LWB. 


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 02, 2015, 11:24:19 AM
Kev, I've got 4 of those hinges in my spares box if you want them. Also fitted to Mini van & Morris Minor van rear doors. They have a brass ball fitting in the middle so you can fit them against angled surfaces.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: minimutly on June 02, 2015, 05:54:17 PM
They used to make an ascending pitch "creeaaak" noise when opened if I recall


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 02, 2015, 07:28:40 PM
question for Mr Rooney,

can i chop the battery stand/holder off?

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556e03652fe1a.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556e0364f0d80.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556e0364aff78.jpg)

i'm guessing no as its welded to the chassis.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: kapri on June 02, 2015, 08:15:07 PM
Kev, I've got 4 of those hinges in my spares box if you want them. Also fitted to Mini van & Morris Minor van rear doors. They have a brass ball fitting in the middle so you can fit them against angled surfaces.

YES PLEASE Andy :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 02, 2015, 08:34:41 PM
question for Mr Rooney,

can i chop the battery stand/holder off?
i'm guessing no as its welded to the chassis.

Kev will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand things, you can remove non structural items such as body mount brackets, fuel tank mounts etc. and in this case the battery mounting. Just make sure that anything you remove is not also acting as bracing between structural members.
On a Landy chassis this is fairly easy to see but on modern unitary construction, working out what is structural or not can be difficult.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 02, 2015, 08:48:27 PM
Kev, I'll dig them out from the lock-up garage in the next couple of days & get them down to you.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: kapri on June 02, 2015, 09:30:38 PM
question for Mr Rooney,

can i chop the battery stand/holder off?
i'm guessing no as its welded to the chassis.

Kev will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand things, you can remove non structural items such as body mount brackets, fuel tank mounts etc. and in this case the battery mounting. Just make sure that anything you remove is not also acting as bracing between structural members.
On a Landy chassis this is fairly easy to see but on modern unitary construction, working out what is structural or not can be difficult.

It's a bit of a minefield to be honest. From speaking with Tech at VOSA ( DSVA now ) they really expect anything shown on a factory chassis diagram to remain there BUT will allow removal of small body mounts , fuel tank supports depend on how big what and where they are. The small brackets on the back of a Herald chassis , and also on Realiant Scimitar that servo no purpose other than tank supports can definitely NOT be removed whilst undergoing the rebodying process. Unitary / Monococque items tend to be much more clearcut .For instance you CAN'T remove an engine mount from the body and they would expect you to make an adaption between block and monococque.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 02, 2015, 09:50:48 PM
cheers kev, it will stay then, but battery relocated.

thanks chris.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: ROD on June 03, 2015, 05:01:55 AM
Envious of the speed some of these things come together,must have a lot of spare time.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 03, 2015, 05:04:33 AM
question for Mr Rooney,

can i chop the battery stand/holder off?
i'm guessing no as its welded to the chassis.

Kev will correct me if I'm wrong,

It's a bit of a minefield to be honest. From speaking with Tech at VOSA ( DSVA now ) they really expect anything shown on a factory chassis diagram to remain there BUT will allow removal of small body mounts , fuel tank supports depend on how big what and where they are. The small brackets on the back of a Herald chassis , and also on Realiant Scimitar that servo no purpose other than tank supports can definitely NOT be removed whilst undergoing the rebodying process. Unitary / Monococque items tend to be much more clearcut .For instance you CAN'T remove an engine mount from the body and they would expect you to make an adaption between block and monococque.


I stand corrected. Thanks Kev.
 Must be hell for special commercial/military vehicle builders these days, but then again we had manufacturers chassis drawings, that specified allowable major modifications.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: kapri on June 03, 2015, 06:58:41 AM
Everything has to go through IVA on the built from new chassis cab Coachbuilt side nowadays. You can do mods to already built stuff on a chassis cab like say remove a horsebox and put on a pick up body using the rebody rules providing no chassis mods. Even after an almost 5 year lead in would you believe their are Coachbuilding comapnies who still hadn't heard that they needed to comply ? Amazes me how many specialist body / chassis builders simply don't keep up with legislation that would stop their business dead?

I recently got involved with one specialist lorry that needed to comply but couldn't that was over £250,000 worth!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 03, 2015, 07:30:17 AM

I recently got involved with one specialist lorry that needed to comply but couldn't that was over £250,000 worth!

holy s**t!!!! head in sand syndrome?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 03, 2015, 07:32:28 AM
Envious of the speed some of these things come together,must have a lot of spare time.

i've not done alot realy, just bolt on stuff. body will take longer, just had email saying only half order for steel sent out, grrrrrr......


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 03, 2015, 06:37:57 PM
as the steel did'nt turn up today for the body, thought i would start on the front wheels.

started with a wheel.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556f446e03bcc.jpg)

which ended up with this bit that i don't need.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556f446d8459a.jpg)

and this bit that i do.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556f446e3a252.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5556f446dbd4da.jpg)

glad i've only got front two to do!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 03, 2015, 10:12:59 PM
Hmm, interesting.
Are you building your own body for this ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 03, 2015, 10:20:18 PM
Kev, hinges sorted out. I'll get them in the post to you on Friday.  ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: kapri on June 03, 2015, 10:27:17 PM
Chris, were they rivetted together or did you drill though the spotwelds ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 03, 2015, 10:37:34 PM
rivetted kev, used 5/8 hole saw without bit in middle.

new rims are were spotwelded.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 03, 2015, 10:38:30 PM
Hmm, interesting.
Are you building your own body for this ?


yes. but will not be  as classy as yours!!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 04, 2015, 06:54:55 AM
Not sure I'd call it classy. It doesn't even have doors, or for that matter, much of anything.
Spend plenty of time at the planning stage and it will save a lot of time and effort later on.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 04, 2015, 08:15:42 AM
Not sure I'd call it classy. It doesn't even have doors, or for that matter, much of anything.
Spend plenty of time at the planning stage and it will save a lot of time and effort later on.

i've never taken so many measurements!!!!! still waiting on engine/box.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 04, 2015, 11:08:05 AM
fedex, what a total bunch of useless, lieing c...s!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 04, 2015, 02:39:24 PM
narrow 15" rim.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55570621ccb61e.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55570621c71600.jpg)

all welded, needs cleaning painting. then crossply tyres mounting.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55570621d5af8e.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 04, 2015, 07:13:02 PM
steel arrived this afternoon for body frame work.  ;D

 :o don't expect much as the mrs is home from 1st week of a 4 week course away tomorrow evening so i'll be dust fairy when i've finished work tomorrow.  ::)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 04, 2015, 07:29:58 PM
Wheels spinning nice & true Chris? Don't think I could trust my measuring/welding skills to get it spot on.  :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 04, 2015, 07:34:13 PM
at most 1mm runout which i've been told is ok.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: markju on June 04, 2015, 07:34:55 PM
:o don't expect much as the mrs is home from 1st week of a 4 week course away tomorrow evening so i'll be dust fairy when i've finished work tomorrow.  ::)

So that explains how you've managed to crack on a bit this week. Surprising the amount you can get done when you're left in peace and quiet :)



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 04, 2015, 07:36:56 PM
 ;D



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 06, 2015, 04:34:53 PM
started on the body this afternoon, blimey its eating some steel!!!
swallowed up over 12metres just doing part of sides!!!!

no pics yet as nothing worth showing yet.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 06, 2015, 05:27:34 PM
You're not building a tank are you?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: markju on June 06, 2015, 05:37:32 PM
You're not building a tank are you?

Or maybe something like this


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 06, 2015, 07:43:52 PM
started on the body this afternoon, blimey its eating some steel!!!
swallowed up over 12metres just doing part of sides!!!!

Yep, if you don't make a cutting list, then it comes as a bit of a surprise (or shock) just how much material is required.
Will this be skinned in steel or aluminium?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 06, 2015, 08:13:32 PM
Skinned in steel.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 08, 2015, 04:40:53 PM
right, no one laugh. this is how far i've got with the body. first time at doing this.
got one door outer frame in hole, need to get more steel for other side.
got the cowl and front bulk head to start yet, which i think will change the looks making it not seem so wide.

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_5575c42c5d5b1.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_5575c41c15cf5.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_5575c43369634.jpg)

steering column/box will need dropping a couple of inches.



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 08, 2015, 07:04:32 PM
You have got a lot done on this ! :o  :)
Hope you remembered skinning allowance and swing gap around the doors.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 08, 2015, 08:31:54 PM
Something like this Chris?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 09, 2015, 04:16:58 AM
yes andy.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 09, 2015, 06:04:29 AM
I admire your courage in going with a hard top, for your first body build Chris.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: kapri on June 09, 2015, 12:58:20 PM
The A's and T of that period are probably the 'easiest 'to reproduce as they were actually built in small pieces at the factory as initially they didn't have the big presses. Hence why early cars have big fabric roof inserts ;)  Looking good Chris :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 09, 2015, 04:04:10 PM
cheers kev, its certainly a learning curve.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 09, 2015, 05:11:49 PM
short video of some prat doing something!!!!!  :-[ :-[ :-[

https://www.facebook.com/chrisdralph/videos/vb.100004235734054/503698759781311/?type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 09, 2015, 06:36:56 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 10, 2015, 01:46:05 PM
just ordered more steel. thats about 20metres gone, with another 12 on way!!!

not even thought about steel sheet yet!!!!

may need advice on thickness. must be in mm as cannot understand them old fashioned numbers for sheet thickness!!! lol


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: lunatic on June 10, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
Standard body steel from a motor factors is 0.9 mm, I use this and 1.1/2 ish for more structural areas and floors.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 10, 2015, 05:08:04 PM
thanks.  so 1mm will be ok on body as nearly all flat. floor will be anything thats going cheap!!!! lol



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: lunatic on June 10, 2015, 05:38:17 PM
Yeah, I'd go with the slightly thicker stuff if it's mostly flat or large curves. Floor doesn't have to be that thick if it's got enough bracing under it or some stiffening beads or ribs rolled/pressed/bashed into it.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: kapri on June 10, 2015, 08:00:24 PM
just ordered more steel. thats about 20metres gone, with another 12 on way!!!

not even thought about steel sheet yet!!!!

may need advice on thickness. must be in mm as cannot understand them old fashioned numbers for sheet thickness!!! lol

In my 27T 'somewhere' is 120 feet of 3mm wall 1" x  1" tube!!  Takes 4 people to lift the grp body , I think i may have over engineered it a bit ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 10, 2015, 08:13:38 PM
just ordered more steel. thats about 20metres gone, with another 12 on way!!!

not even thought about steel sheet yet!!!!

may need advice on thickness. must be in mm as cannot understand them old fashioned numbers for sheet thickness!!! lol

In my 27T 'somewhere' is 120 feet of 3mm wall 1" x  1" tube!!  Takes 4 people to lift the grp body , I think i may have over engineered it a bit ?
Just a bit ! :D

For floor panels you could consider marine ply (WBP)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 11, 2015, 04:26:58 AM
proper marine ply is bs1088.  used thousands of sheets in my time.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 11, 2015, 06:59:46 AM
Used exterior grade ply on mine, as it's going to be fully sealed anyway, and it was a lot cheaper (already had it  :D )


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 12, 2015, 09:07:45 AM
ordered 6sq m of sheet steel to start with.
thats me skint!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 12, 2015, 02:37:21 PM
whilst waiting for steel to arrive thought i would drill the other front wheels to part centres from rims, one burnt out drill later there both apart!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 12, 2015, 07:08:29 PM
finished welding up the last front wheel for the ratrod tonight, gloves on, picked it up to put on floor.................ouch thats fuc... hot!!!!   i drops it then BANG!!!! chopped power lead in two!!!! doh.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 12, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
So, going well so far then.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 12, 2015, 07:27:16 PM
yeah, just waiting for third thing today!!!! 

shower and bed. ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 12, 2015, 07:28:08 PM
So, going well so far then.
;D ;D ;D
Time to call it a night perhaps (before you break something else)  :D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 13, 2015, 12:05:05 PM
i did strip the teeth of a hole saw earlier yesterday, so it was 3 things!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 16, 2015, 07:18:55 PM
not got a lot done lately, got two panels on rear of cab, plenty more strengthening pieces to be fitted. will look similar to a ford model A cab rear. but higher and slightly bigger window.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555807324bd1b4.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555807324f0e6c.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55580732569560.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555807325361cb.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 16, 2015, 08:52:19 PM
I take it the sheet steel has arrived. :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 18, 2015, 04:45:53 PM
mocking up ideas for cowl shape.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55582f53dbaca0.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 18, 2015, 08:07:42 PM
done a bit more tonight.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558323f45b717.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558323f4a3ce4.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558323f4da03c.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 19, 2015, 04:29:48 PM
done a bit more this afternoon, challenging and very time consuming, other side to do tomorrow.

done with welder,grinder and couple of hammers.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558442dd70c18.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558442dd2cc1a.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: the coppersmith on June 19, 2015, 07:46:42 PM
thats progressing well, I can see what your aiming at, well done


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: scannerzer on June 19, 2015, 07:52:52 PM
looks good Chris ,i can imagine it being a pain to get that curve


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 19, 2015, 09:02:41 PM
Keep at it mate -looking good!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 20, 2015, 06:56:00 AM
Coming along nicely. :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: ROD on June 20, 2015, 11:15:42 AM
Looking good mate.If only I still had your enthusiasm and motivation!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: morrag on June 20, 2015, 08:34:01 PM
Know what you mean, Rod, but I generally have no lack of "mojo" early on in a project, its towards the end that It sets in with me! and judging by the number of "almost" finished projects that seem forever to be for sale, I suspect its a common malaise ;D ;D ;D ;D..Morrag


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 21, 2015, 07:08:35 PM
 not much done today, work, time with the mrs before she departs for another week away. i've bent metal for other curve of cowl. back on it tomorrow afternoon.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 22, 2015, 07:33:15 PM
no updates tonight, apart from weld, weld weld.

and putting frame work for cowl on 1" higher than other side ................doh  ::)

2 days off now so could be a little bit of progress ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 22, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
 ;D It's not just me that does stuff like that then!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 23, 2015, 07:13:11 AM
i struggled to get it to line up, then stood back when i had finished an thought that looks a bit on the pee!!!! it was just a little!!!
school run, then back on it.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 23, 2015, 11:36:26 AM
At least you noticed before trying to skin it. :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 23, 2015, 08:21:51 PM
more progress, skinned other side of cowl.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55589bd846b43c.jpg)

also planning where rear window will sit.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55589bd84db0f5.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55589bd83a1ec2.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55589bd83d54a9.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55589bd84a3287.jpg)

and my new favourite tool(?) to use.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55589bd8322262.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 23, 2015, 09:34:01 PM
That cowl makes a basic metal box into something surprisingly car-like doesn't it!
Now you need to explain the copper to the non welders.  ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 24, 2015, 05:56:49 AM
thank you andy, its not the same shape each side but i guess thats what you get with doing it in ya garage with a handfull of tools.

the flattened copper pipe is used when welding. you put it behind a butt joint/gap in steel on the sheet steel, it then stops the weld burning through but does not stick to copper. end result is holes filled in. it does get mighty hot though so a wooden handle is good.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 24, 2015, 06:41:36 AM
thank you andy, its not the same shape each side but i guess thats what you get with doing it in ya garage with a handfull of tools.
Helps if you make both sides of the frame at the same time. Doesn't look too far out though.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 24, 2015, 06:46:27 AM
guess its us builders who will know the faults are there!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 24, 2015, 08:27:00 AM
There's nothing symmetrical from one side of my Pop to the other, but it left the factory like that.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 24, 2015, 10:26:00 AM
this mornings progress, evrything just tacked in at moment.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558a8545420e8.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 24, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
bit more progress this afternoon.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558ad1a4093f6.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558ad1a4577c9.jpg)

put infill in above door but ended a little bit wavy!!!!!!

and ignore the s**t welding!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558ad1a49bd24.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5558ad1a4e995b.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Mendalot on June 24, 2015, 05:22:27 PM
Is good to see it taking shape as the build progresses ........ keep going sir :)     I should be working on my project instead of sitting here with a beer, watching you, but cant get the enthusiasm at the moment ::) 


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 24, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
i'm lucky that i get 2 days off a week, plus i work 6am till maybe 1pm then have afternoon to do as i wish.
and i don't drink.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 26, 2015, 07:54:00 PM
bit more progress this afternoon.
put infill in above door but ended a little bit wavy!!!!!!

Try folding the panel top edges before welding them in place.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 27, 2015, 08:05:17 PM
good idea, but was'nt heat that warped it, me cutting with snips!!! yes all sheet cut by hand.

think i'm sorted with an engine. ;D

turbo and auto!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on June 28, 2015, 04:49:56 AM
Bulk buy thin cutting disks. You are going to need them !
 


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 28, 2015, 08:37:02 AM
So... what's the engine Chris?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 28, 2015, 12:47:03 PM
one of these.

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ghQw2oue4Zs/maxresdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 28, 2015, 01:08:09 PM
I have no idea what that is.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 28, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
toyota 2.4 turbo diesel.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on June 30, 2015, 08:20:04 PM
just been sent video of engine running. all good.

looks like i will have to put my electrical head on as even the gearbox is ecu controlled, but some have said it only tells you your speed.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Ooh, scary black magic stuff.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 06, 2015, 06:31:26 PM
no engine yet, but bought some more steel sheet, for roof, and thicker sheet for doors as they'll sit over bodywork like model a fords.(no door gaps to fiddle with!!!)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 07, 2015, 03:42:52 PM
just had delivery of some steel, oops thats bigger than i expected.

going to be used as belt line along doors(from handle) around back to other side.

don't know if it will look to chunky? its ...kin heavy!!! the doors will shut with a clunk!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5559bf2de6f765.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5559bf2deaf5be.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5559bf2dee0be6.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5559bf2df1deda.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: markju on July 07, 2015, 04:03:34 PM
That section looks very much like what they use for handrails. Sure is heavy stuff


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 07, 2015, 04:52:16 PM
advertised as 40mm x 6mm. was very disapointed when it arrived. 40mm x 12mm!!!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271174767249?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=570148026301&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on July 07, 2015, 05:08:41 PM
Get them to take it back (as long as you haven't cut it up ). They may just refund the money rather than send a courier.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 07, 2015, 05:14:52 PM
i've already sent them a message, and no not cut it up.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 07, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
I actually don't think it looks bad -you've got a lot of very flat bodywork & it'd help to break it up a bit. Once it's painted body colour it won't stand out so much.
Have you tried clamping a length along the door or across the back & standing back to see how it looks? Can we see how it looks? I drilled the body panels on my Pop & welded the swage-line rod from the back to keep it tidy. Think mine's about 12mm wide, but that was to match the original Pop lines, (mine's actually made from lengths of curved profile bar from a set of French window locks, supplied by forum member Afghan Man, from his French farmhouse).


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 07, 2015, 07:23:20 PM
i've just ordered some different(very different :D ) and smaller steel. got a use for the current stuff.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 07, 2015, 07:29:06 PM
this is what i've ordered, 20x6mm  ;D

(http://www.ironfinials.co.uk/images/DECORATIVE_BAR/decorative_bar_B.jpg)  


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on July 07, 2015, 07:48:43 PM
Hammered edge bar. Should be a third of the weight of the convex square edge you have. Unusual too.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 08, 2015, 07:08:50 PM
looks like i'm going to have more bar than i know what to do with, as i'm being sent a smaller replacement!!!!

also got pair of these today, saves me making something up.(£8 pair delivered)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5559d757b1f1c2.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 08, 2015, 08:22:56 PM
Erm... door latch striker plate?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 08, 2015, 08:46:12 PM
yes, landrover ones!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 10, 2015, 04:35:55 PM
got some welding done today!!!! fighting for space at moment as got 2 sheets of steel, one for roof. and a thicker sheet for door skins, front bulkhead and floor.

need to clear up though as engine/box + whatever else is needed to run it will arrive next week.

oh and i sort of bought this.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDgw/z/luYAAOSw2VJVgLrm/$_57.JPG)

gonna hear the turbo whistle with that  ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on July 11, 2015, 07:33:34 AM


oh and i sort of bought this.
gonna hear the turbo whistle with that  ;D

 :D
What thickness steel are you using Chris ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 11, 2015, 11:53:07 AM
0.9 for roof, and 1.5 for doors, they'll overlap like ford model A.   but they are straight with no curves.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 17, 2015, 06:07:42 AM
spoke to the guy selling engine and box last night(cool laid back great guy off britchopper forum) he has removed everything i will need, delivery will be next week sometime.
but and this is a big but. i don't think i want the engine etc. i've said yes to it and i'm not the type of person to go back on my word, but reading up on them i think something more simple would be better.  i'll wait for it to be delivered then make my mind up. :-\ 


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on July 17, 2015, 04:46:47 PM
think something more simple would be better.  i'll wait for it to be delivered then make my mind up. :-\ 
Good idea.

Funnily enough, a land rover engine might fit.  ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 17, 2015, 09:19:22 PM
Rover V8.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on July 18, 2015, 07:13:13 AM
Rover V8.
Would be perfect. I've had three V8 110's and if the engine is not restricted, they can be surprisingly quick.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 22, 2015, 09:53:47 PM
right guys i need some advice.

i was going for crossplys, but also got ideas for big chunky 4x4 tyres rear with smaller but still chunky for front.

there is also third option of putting van tyres on.

 ???  :-\  ::)



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 22, 2015, 10:06:02 PM
I've got skinny crossplies all round on the Pop, mainly for the vintage look. They're fine as long as you know their limitations -not much grip so longer braking distances, more careful cornering & no high speed motorway driving in the rain.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on July 23, 2015, 05:38:35 AM
They're fine as long as you know their limitations
Agreed. In the 70s, I ran crossplys on a pinto engined,  Mk1 Cortina. Highly entertaining on wet roundabouts.
You really have to decide what you want the vehicle to look like as well as it's usage. Unless you have got to the wings stage, I would concentrate on getting the body finished, before laying out cash on tyres, so you have more of an idea of the overall look.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 24, 2015, 04:32:02 AM
rolled outside for first time, rear bed will be steel not wood!!!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b1be128cbfb.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b1be13ea4b8.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b1be1310800.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b1be134448f.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b1be137e758.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b1be13b537e.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b1be12c73a1.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on July 24, 2015, 09:10:38 AM
Very intriguing build you've got going here sir,..have you any idea how your going to do the front end or will you leave it exposed in some way ? I think keep skinnies on the front but not crossplys ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 24, 2015, 04:44:04 PM
Nice to be able to stand back & have a good look at it Chris.
Love the scuttle/cowl -could you maybe radius some of the other corners in the same way to make it a little less boxy? (the back corners of the cab, gutter rails & perhaps add a curved sill panel under the doors?)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 24, 2015, 05:11:15 PM
thanks everyone. i actualy prefer the boxy look.

engine and gearbox arrived this afternoon.

sitting just a tad high at the mo!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b270b631411.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555b270b66cfb6.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Mendalot on July 24, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Wow, that's a lump an half :o  should be a giggle getting it all in the right place. Great stuff.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on July 24, 2015, 05:27:06 PM
Lots of pipes and wires to have hours of fun with !


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 24, 2015, 05:52:32 PM
Sheesh! I don't even know what half of those do!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 24, 2015, 06:01:57 PM
some connect to the ecu i've got.

just to find out how to remove the transfer box to run 2wd.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 28, 2015, 07:15:39 PM
decided to sell engine and box.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 28, 2015, 07:29:34 PM
? Going for something simpler Chris?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 28, 2015, 08:29:14 PM
yes, landrover hopefully.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 28, 2015, 08:44:16 PM
Makes complete sense.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on July 30, 2015, 07:47:54 PM
engine sold. paid for and collected. thats 95% of me money back ;D

just to sell gearbox and parts.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: goose on July 31, 2015, 06:17:39 PM
liking the look of that mate..


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 07, 2015, 02:33:18 PM
a little progress,

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555c4c03ef2da7.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555c4c03f673de.jpg)

bit of primer to protect it.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555c4c03f99c38.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555c4c0400da72.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555c4c03fcc0e4.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 07, 2015, 06:04:25 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on August 07, 2015, 06:17:18 PM
Looks like you've been busy with the angle grinder as well Chris. Any luck with an engine ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 07, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
yes been busy with welder and grinder. no luck on engine yet(got eye on one local  ;)  )


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on August 07, 2015, 07:29:19 PM
A bit late for the areas that you've already done, but you can save time and effort by welding on the insde where it won't be seen. Much less dressing of the seen surfaces.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 08, 2015, 04:20:13 AM
theres only about an hours work there.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 11, 2015, 07:50:43 AM
no progress, but could be picking an engine up in next couple of days.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 11, 2015, 07:04:09 PM
picked engine up this afternoon, picks to follow. :D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 11, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
went and picked the engine that will be in it for a while, landrover 2.5na diesel, not the quickest but needs must.

80mile round trip with it in back of an astra was a bit of an experiance.

me and the boy managed to get it in the engine bay tonight, sits further back than i expected, but i can live with that. need to sort engine mounts.

and find a gearbox.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555ca5eaed9673.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555ca5eb027888.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555ca5eaf99c17.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555ca5eaf62ab9.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555ca5eafdb1e7.jpg)

need to find out how people deal with engine mounts putting a 2.5 (90 swb) into a swb series chassis. i think you change chassis mount on o/s and space them up by about 2", then the battery tray can stay, cutaway at moment to allow engine to sit roughly in place.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555ca5eb0974a0.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555ca5eaf24b7b.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 11, 2015, 10:10:16 PM
Interesting.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 12, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
connected a battery up and had it turning over on the starter. ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 12, 2015, 08:40:46 PM
On the road by the weekend then!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 13, 2015, 07:34:25 PM
which?

suppose to be going on hoilday saturday, but not feeling the love for it. so could be on here with a injury or two!!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 13, 2015, 11:49:11 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 27, 2015, 05:31:41 PM
no progress at all. lots of problems at home, plus need new boiler, washing machine etc etc.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 27, 2015, 06:21:22 PM
Life just gets in the way sometimes mate. Keep plugging away, when you can.  ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: BikerGran on August 28, 2015, 09:27:33 AM
Isn't it always the way - as soon as one thing gets fixed a couple more start making problems!

Keep putting one foot in front of the other!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: No Sound on August 28, 2015, 08:36:30 PM
Son lives in Australia now. Best phase is "No worries Mate" I like that. Andy


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 03, 2015, 04:53:55 PM
not much progress lately, but managed a couple of hours this afternoon. lots of welding and grinding, and primer to protect it.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555e87a36af13b.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555e87a36e1434.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555e87a366da23.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555e87a373414b.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 03, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
Looks like lots of progress to me.  :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on September 03, 2015, 09:12:34 PM
Where have you hidden the holes ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 05, 2015, 07:09:40 PM
this is giving me ideas!!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555eb3db2c9e3b.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 05, 2015, 07:29:22 PM
with a series 1 grille?

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555eb425e0c3d7.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 05, 2015, 07:53:23 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 14, 2015, 06:34:30 PM
mothballed, but boiler is working and we have a new washing machine.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 17, 2015, 05:15:46 PM
so much for leaving it alone,

got passenger door frame made and hung, also made decision to have slidy windows.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555faf326b272c.jpg)

the door skin(2mm) will overlap onto body, with a small rubber seal behind. the hinges allow this.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555faf32889dab.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555faf329baea7.jpg)

the skin will move away from body when door opens.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/555faf32924216.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 18, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
no pics, but spent a few hours today experimenting with door catches, got it mocked up after lots of measuring, drilling, bolting then welding. then grinding. door catches real nice and closes.

hopefully do some more tomorrow, along with door skin hopefully.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 18, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
Your doors fit better than mine!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on September 20, 2015, 06:52:16 AM
Sliding windows is a great idea. Really simplifies the doors as there is so much less to go wrong than having window winder mechanisms.

the door skin(2mm)

You sure youre not building an APC ? ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 20, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
after looking at it i think its 1.5!!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 22, 2015, 04:10:48 PM
more progress,

work to do on door skin but getting there.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560179ea77616.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560179eb17aa6.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560179ecf3445.jpg)

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(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560179ec57e7f.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/556017b8d642a8.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/556017b8e09cec.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/556017b8eb25a0.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/556017b8f52675.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/556017b8fdeaf6.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 23, 2015, 05:34:50 PM
put some primer on door to protect it.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55602dda9714a1.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55602ddaa24382.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55602ddaad1ee6.jpg)

also think i'll continue metal trim along cowl side.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55602ddab7f6dd.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 28, 2015, 07:58:21 PM
100 mile road trip this evening to pick up a gearbox, not good trying to find a house in the middle of the wilds in the dark with only scribbled address on paper, no sat nav,no map !!!! the fun of it!!! lol


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on September 28, 2015, 08:21:57 PM
what g/box 2wd or 4wd


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 28, 2015, 08:29:23 PM
4wd mike, all £50 worth!!!!

thats 2 months project money!!!! yes things are tight. :-[


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on September 28, 2015, 11:25:40 PM
2, 2a, or 3,,,


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 29, 2015, 06:42:15 AM
3, i hope!!!!

will get some pics. i've noticed series parts are starting to sell for good money now.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 29, 2015, 06:49:26 AM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5NVgxNjAw/z/-WMAAOSwKIpV~Gtj/$_57.JPG)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on September 29, 2015, 08:05:05 AM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5NVgxNjAw/z/-WMAAOSwKIpV~Gtj/$_57.JPG)

re-con exchange  2a by the look of it


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 29, 2015, 08:44:06 AM
so no synchro on 1st only? or 1st and 2nd?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
and it will fit a 2.5?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 29, 2015, 08:49:44 AM
got this plate on it.

great knowledge there mike.

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Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on September 29, 2015, 09:45:49 AM
chuck youre rover 2.5 in the skip,,

go and look for a late bmc 2.5 badged as leyland with the narrow serpentine fan belt ====far better lump  ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on September 29, 2015, 09:51:46 AM
Think Spanners is right about it being a 2a box. Most had no syncro on first but very lates ones did. If so it should have an S prefix to a number stamped on the top cover.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on September 29, 2015, 10:05:29 AM
words of advice

strip down clean up and free off the 4wd dog in the nose where the front prop fits it will be a job well done as they only rely on a spring to engage the dog when you pull the pin up if it isnt nice and free it wont engage 4wd or only partly engage  and chew itself up  or jamb in 4wd

guess how i know   ::)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 29, 2015, 10:09:34 AM
cheers dave and mike.

big font of knowledge

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Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on September 29, 2015, 05:42:38 PM
trial fit.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560aca16b5fa4.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560aca1859fcd.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560aca1901695.jpg)

going to move engine forward a little(must make sure grill still sits ok)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560aca17b2eb5.jpg)

so the engine is'nt inside the cab!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5560aca1996027.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 06, 2015, 04:42:10 PM
the engine is going back to its orignal position.

makes registering easier(in case of inspection) plus i can buy new propshaft off the shelf for about £60 and it will fit with no messing.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 06, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Sounds like a sensible move.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on October 06, 2015, 05:35:29 PM
the engine is going back to its orignal position.

makes registering easier(in case of inspection) plus i can buy new propshaft off the shelf for about £60 and it will fit with no messing.

which prop do you need  ,,north lincs clear out will unearth a couple ,, ;) ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 06, 2015, 08:00:22 PM
rear mike.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 08, 2015, 07:57:27 PM
back to original plans, engine/box now mounted 5 1/2" forward!!!
chassis mounts not altered.
onto steering and pedals. blimey space is tight, got steering box bolted onto stock mounts. err........ steering wheel rather
close to driver!!! plans to cure that.
got a pedal box from a discovery. thats now been chopped into two and now has a big hole drilled between clutch/brake pedals to slide down column. the throttle cable actually fits onto the original mount and fixing on injecter pump which is rather handy!! guess thats a good thing with keeping everything landrover.

no pics yet.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 08, 2015, 08:51:38 PM
Here's a pic for you. Saw this flat roofed pick-up on FaceBook & thought of you.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 09, 2015, 04:33:48 AM
very nice, but why do they always put bling wheels on?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on October 09, 2015, 07:19:49 AM
very nice, but why do they always put bling wheels on?
because he had them lying about somewhere no doubt ? A posh rat rod ?  I wonder if any of them have passed the BIVA test ? ::)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 09, 2015, 03:14:19 PM
been mocking up stuff, got steering box mounted, has caused a few problems as you can see!!!

mocked seat up.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55617d7f4954f9.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55617d7f538e61.jpg)

as you can see, wheel is a tad too high and in ya face!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55617d7f68a92e.jpg)

the only thing in right place is gearstick!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55617d7f5e739a.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 09, 2015, 05:52:21 PM
Easy enough to shorten the steering column?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 09, 2015, 05:56:59 PM
yes, and hopefully keep it looking stock!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: No Sound on October 09, 2015, 09:14:06 PM
A bit of foam would be nice on the seats, cracking build. Andy


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 11, 2015, 04:43:42 AM
just done a quick tally up of the bigger bits i need for ratrod truck...........................oh dear!!!!

won't be finished anytime soon!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on October 11, 2015, 06:01:03 AM
That's the worse thing to do ? :-\
Just plod on and buy what you can when you can ? Every project takes longer /more money than you hope..ask everybody  :'(


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on October 11, 2015, 06:49:50 AM
Very true. It's so easy to forget to allow for all those smaller items, such as electrical components, refurb parts, engine.   ;)  They all add up.
Starting with a bare rolling chassis, does tend to mean, that a few items may be missing. :D
 It's a hobby, and not a cheap one, so you do what you can, when you can and when finances permit.
Keep at it Chris.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 11, 2015, 10:21:09 AM
It's definitely an all engrossing pastime -all my available spare cash goes into either my truck or my bike. I'm on holiday at the moment & if it weren't for this hobby I could be sitting on a beach in the sun somewhere. I enjoy creating stuff though. The building bug's a bit of a curse really -but at least I'll have something to show for it when they're done.
Keep plugging away Chris. We all know how you feel! Any progress is still progress.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: No Sound on October 13, 2015, 09:55:47 PM
Not one for posting this sort of comment but why is it on ebay? I have to say I am disappointed and that you really need to finish a project, but then again its non of my business so I am off. Andy 


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 13, 2015, 10:01:06 PM
there is a genuine reason, one that i don't realy want to discuss at moment.

don't worry i'm not going away. but might disapear for a while.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: merv on October 13, 2015, 10:24:47 PM
there is a genuine reason, one that i don't realy want to discuss at moment.

don't worry i'm not going away. but might disapear for a while.


That would be a shame  :(


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on October 14, 2015, 06:05:17 AM
Selling the truck is up to you, just don't dissappear.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: No Sound on October 14, 2015, 07:46:16 PM
Like others have said no need to disappear itís only a project. I was a bit hard on you with my last post which I apologise for but it was only because I was enjoying the build. Anyway I hope things turn out ok and you find a project you are happy with and make sure you post it to keep us all up to date. Andy


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 14, 2015, 08:22:03 PM
Got to agree with Andy -this one showed promise, (though Id've put a few more curves in it myself). I was looking forward to seeing how it turned out.
Life just gets in the way sometimes though & there are more important things than cars & bikes, (I'm told). Don't go wandering off too far matey.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on October 14, 2015, 10:23:52 PM
My son never finishes his projects for one reason or another ? You'll be back ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on October 15, 2015, 12:44:03 AM
OK,,OK,, so whats going to slow this build ????  PM,,me


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 15, 2015, 01:01:09 PM
i'm still here,

(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd505/Brusskins8/Hello%20Tags/3d-Animasi-Monkey-Wave-Hand-Animated.gif~original)

just struggling with everything at the moment. not a good time of year. plus my medication has been changed.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 16, 2015, 04:42:36 PM
well its time to give the facts as they are.

i've no money. yep even though me and mrs poprodder are both working, i've not a dime spare.(or enough for that matter!!!)
lost all interest in rods etc, no idea why, not just a phase but not been to our local club meet for nearly 2yrs, don't miss it. no interest to go in garage, when i do, i have to force myself to do anything.

its no good me mothballing the pick up in garage, its going, along with garage!!!

need to take a step back and finish house repairs etc.

i'll keep popping in on here, but don't think i'll keep a pressence so much on other forums.

chris.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Mendalot on October 16, 2015, 05:51:30 PM
I often get like that Chris. But what ever you get rid of, just make sure you keep all your tools ..... dont get rid of anything, as hopefully after you have given it a rest for a while you will get the urge to tinker again.  ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 16, 2015, 06:51:18 PM
will never sell me tools, 26yrs as a boatbuilder i accumulated a fair old collection.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 16, 2015, 08:12:51 PM
I've been there quite a few times over the years & actually got rid of my tools & given up rented garages several times.
I decided a while ago that my current 2 projects will be my last. Not giving up on the scene, just want to get out & enjoy the vehicles I've got rather than constantly working on new ones. It's an age thing I think -several of my mates are thinning their project collections at the moment.
Always welcome here Chris.  ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on October 16, 2015, 11:11:09 PM
Sold my lathe,sold my compressor ,selling my harley..may sell the chop project ..will try n keep the trike..had enuff of hotrods/chops..but will always have the passion..feel the same as Andy some days..rock on dude regardless  8)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: kapri on October 17, 2015, 07:33:54 AM
I often get like that as well Chris . I'm trying hard to thin my stuff down and , Like Andy , would love to just have a couple that meet my needs and not be forever building. Having said that I actually need to keep moving as my back gets worse if I do nothing :(


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on October 17, 2015, 07:56:17 AM
Same here. Next year I will probably be selling my bikes but can't imagine ever selling the trike. These days I can only work for an hour at a time but not doing anything makes things worse.
Take a long break from it all Chris and the enthusiasm may come back. Perhaps a project that takes less time, space and cash may be the way to go. I found motorcycles to be profitable (the trike was funded by bikes) and gave me something to do.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on October 17, 2015, 08:33:30 AM
Iv rarely found hotrods/trikes/bikes profitable ?  :-\


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: morrag on October 17, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
I must agree with Dave, I have usually managed to make sufficient profit from bikes/trikes etc. to at least fund the next "vision", and that's over quite a long lifetime, (to date ;D), but like everyone, enthusiasm, interest, and direction comes and goes, and ain't that the way of things, so, sit out a spell, until driven back! often by boredom, to more of the same... :D :D Morrag


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 17, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
how about this for a message sent on ebay!!!

"sorry i fail to see where you are going with this, is it all in your head or do you have some photos / ideas to share?"

this was my reply, no idea why i bothered!!!

"?,  i guess you've no imagination of your own.
look up hotrodding on google.
and please stop wasting peoples time with silly questions!!!!!"


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 17, 2015, 02:50:35 PM
apparently he was asking a valid question!!!!!  lol

got this reply.

"Plenty of imagination thanks but was thinking you might engage in conversation about the project, was actually interested in the idea of buying it but you attitude just sunk any ideas of that. Your loss"


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on October 17, 2015, 04:26:24 PM
We can't really comment on your eBay messages good sir,with out having privy to the whole conversation ..but yes we all get some funny messages? ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 17, 2015, 05:11:45 PM
that is the whole conversation!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on October 17, 2015, 05:17:30 PM
Oh well..obviously one of life's stranger types ?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 17, 2015, 05:56:22 PM
yep, stranger than me!!!!! lol


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 17, 2015, 06:35:50 PM
Keep your cool & just take their money Chris.
What they choose to do with your vision is up to them -never gonna be the same as yours, whatever the vehicle is.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 17, 2015, 07:04:28 PM
trouble is andy they wanted to know my vision!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on October 18, 2015, 11:55:22 PM
EBAY LINK   ????? had no idea you had it on the bay  >:(


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 19, 2015, 06:39:12 AM
(http://www.ecommercebytes.com/cab/abn/y10/m07/i26/images/ebay_3rd_party_checkout.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 19, 2015, 05:07:43 PM
(http://jamesellison.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/back_soon-216x209.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 19, 2015, 05:10:25 PM
 :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 19, 2015, 05:20:17 PM
don't expect much this side of christmas.

still on ebay.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: stinkey on October 19, 2015, 05:43:42 PM
Nowt selling at the moment


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 19, 2015, 05:53:25 PM
your right there.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on October 19, 2015, 06:41:45 PM
tried to sell myself  buyer asked for a refund before they paid  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 19, 2015, 09:35:35 PM
tried to sell myself  buyer asked for a refund before they paid  ::) ::) ::)
i offered myself to charity but was declined!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on October 20, 2015, 01:06:08 AM
tried to sell myself  buyer asked for a refund before they paid  ::) ::) ::)
i offered myself to charity but was declined!!!!

medical science/experiments ?????


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 21, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252123593650?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: melosman on October 22, 2015, 08:45:27 AM
It could be that people don't like that amount of repair work to the chassis and it hasn't been ground down which people prefer. Just trying to be objective.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 22, 2015, 09:28:43 AM
but most end up knee deep in mud.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 27, 2015, 04:30:37 PM
i've been working with cardboard and sticky tape. doe'snt weld well though!!!! lol



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 27, 2015, 06:01:28 PM
You keeping it now Chris? Cardboard's cheap & you can do plenty of planning & problem solving with it while you save your pennies.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 27, 2015, 06:05:49 PM
lots of planning(yes) and problem solving(erm...............pass on that one!!!lol)

but not many pennies to save.

and yes its staying.  mainly cos its so fugly no one wanted it!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 27, 2015, 06:29:19 PM
Just means you can show 'em your vision was right :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on October 27, 2015, 06:34:44 PM
Or go to plan B. Stick a Moggy thou body on it.  ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 27, 2015, 06:49:58 PM
you guys don't want to know what plan B was!!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: merv on October 27, 2015, 08:01:53 PM
Go on try us  :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Mendalot on October 27, 2015, 08:18:38 PM
Course we do, but only if its legal ::)       ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Baychimp on October 27, 2015, 08:20:03 PM
I don't mind even if its illegal. :D :D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 27, 2015, 08:36:26 PM
erm.....................no...

ok an 80's motor!!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: No Sound on October 27, 2015, 08:40:14 PM
Go for it. I am watching  :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Baychimp on October 27, 2015, 08:43:00 PM
No! not a Mini Metro. Or (heavens forbid) a Austin Allegro?


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: No Sound on October 27, 2015, 08:49:15 PM
No! not a Mini Metro. Or (heavens forbid) a Austin Allegro?

Why not best of BL. The maxi rod (in brown please)  ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 27, 2015, 08:50:30 PM
same family...................ish!!! last of its breed plus a bit of jap!!!

but would also have been my daily, as everything would have been sold.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Baychimp on October 27, 2015, 09:01:52 PM
Triumph Acclaim.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: scannerzer on October 28, 2015, 07:08:45 AM
they are a cracking motor if you can find a good'un


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on October 28, 2015, 03:40:04 PM
could still happen.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: No Sound on October 29, 2015, 08:28:50 PM
Update please


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Baychimp on October 29, 2015, 08:33:13 PM
I worked in a Leyland garage when they first came out,it was the best car we had on the forecourt at that time. We sold loads of them. If you can get a goodun it would make nice little runaround.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: minimutly on October 31, 2015, 01:06:06 PM
Good luck, rust, rust,rust....


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 04, 2015, 05:30:36 AM
this is the end.

sold on ebay for peanuts, oh well.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 05, 2015, 06:41:25 PM
Next!  :)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 05, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
 ;)   :D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 05, 2015, 09:00:15 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12189850_565219673629219_2246171061735199458_n.jpg?oh=9f15f2b16d38be06b9f21c853f969c09&oe=56C1702B)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189059_565219720295881_2276105044632538799_n.jpg?oh=d7a4d268e71a755868cab95e8aa290ff&oe=56B5CDEC)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on November 06, 2015, 05:33:30 AM
You still working on this ? Firewall starting to look good.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 06, 2015, 05:40:30 AM
yes, my 16yr old son gave me a bollocking!!! and cancelled ebay order!!!



Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 06, 2015, 05:43:08 AM
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5563c3d52ab661.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5563c3d5353505.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5563c3d53ed765.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5563c3d5494666.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Mendalot on November 06, 2015, 08:15:46 AM
Good on your Son, us oldens need a kick up the arse every now and then ;D  Nice to see some more progress buddy.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 06, 2015, 01:39:10 PM
old!!!! i'm only 43!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 06, 2015, 06:34:57 PM
Maybe we need that lad to join the forum & share some of his youthful vigour.  :)
I'm glad you haven't given up Chris. Doesn't matter how long it takes, just chip away at it when the mood takes you. Curvy bulkhead looks nice.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: morrag on November 06, 2015, 07:07:48 PM
Old, I don't remember being 43 when I was 43!! :( :( :( :( :( :(.... ;D


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: morrag on November 06, 2015, 07:10:06 PM
PS....and I admire your effort and perserverance Pop.R.... ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 06, 2015, 07:37:19 PM
Curvy bulkhead looks nice.

i'm sitting here now looking at it and thinking why the hell did i do it like that!!!!! going to be fun matching it up on the inside.

thanks guys, patterned out the n/s floor tonight, cut and tacked it in, only for the welder to decide it wanted to eat the new wire liner!!! grrrrr!!!!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 11, 2015, 03:27:02 PM
well thats me buggered, plastic parts in welder worn up(it is 20yr old) cannot get replacements so will need to buy a new one.
this is a no go.
ho hum.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: BikerGran on November 11, 2015, 06:20:01 PM
There must be something you can sell - something you don't need as much as you need a welder!


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 11, 2015, 08:04:19 PM
got lots of stuff for sale, not a lot selling.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on November 11, 2015, 08:19:43 PM
What has worn out ? Perhaps it can be remade if no longer available.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 11, 2015, 09:22:47 PM
i've found a supplier of said part!!!! in america, add postage and its 3/4 the cost of new machine!!!

(http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!BrY,nJQCGk~$(KGrHqIOKk!Eu,vS04)CBLzc3iOQSw~~_12.JPG)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: spanners on November 11, 2015, 09:43:01 PM
try ,,brookside welding in  macclesfield in cheshire  youlle be suprised what they can get and sort out


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 11, 2015, 10:17:05 PM
cheers mike, trouble is this machine has had 2 complete updates since i've had it. most parts for sale seem to for the last or latest model.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: hunter on November 11, 2015, 10:21:48 PM
What make and model is this welder.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 11, 2015, 10:33:36 PM
same as this one.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55643c211a05db.jpg)


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: Olds on November 11, 2015, 10:47:04 PM
Weldequip have the same feed unit but it's £49.75 + £6.95 P&P
Might be better looking for a spares /repair one to canibalise. My 90EN has a different (later ?) unit but fixings etc look the same, so I imagine that most of these may be interchangeable.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: triker_Chewie on November 11, 2015, 11:08:38 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mig-Welder-Wire-Feed-Motor-Mig-Wire-Motor-Mig-Wire-feeder-24VDC-Wire-Feeder-/111135995700?hash=item19e038b734:g:nmcAAOxylpNTVflh


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: mouse on November 12, 2015, 08:23:08 AM
Tel: 0871 410 1270
Fax: 0871 410 1275
Email: parts@machinemart.co.uk

Parts Department
Machine Mart Ltd
211 Lower Parliament Street
Nottingham
NG1 1GN


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: hunter on November 12, 2015, 09:03:57 AM
That's the same as a Cebora-Snap-on 130 Turbo.
I may have one i will look this morning.
I know i have a torch.


Title: Re: Rat Rod Rover!!!!!
Post by: poprodder on November 12, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
after some decorating today i thought i would have another tinker with the welder. tried to mend it late yesterday but it still played up, so i realy took it apart this time. seems the plastic clamp bit is not holding the wire liner tight enough, so when the wire is feeding through it pushes the liner up the torch hose(!?!)   here comes the idea bodge to try and cure it. i pulled the liner out a little and wrapped some masking tape around it so when i pushed it back it it stopped. also put acouple of turns of tape around liner where the clamp holds onto it.

i've now welded up some of the floor and all seems well at the moment.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* ok that last one was a bit much!!!!!!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: hunter on November 12, 2015, 07:10:15 PM
Well i must have thrown out the one i had. >:(


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 12, 2015, 07:15:22 PM
thanks for looking, hopefully the bodge will last a while.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 13, 2015, 10:45:36 PM
part of drivers floor in, go pedal fitted, all good so far.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 13, 2015, 10:49:48 PM
Let's have a look then.  :)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 13, 2015, 11:08:20 PM
no pics yet.
had to go pick daughter up after performing for children in need.
so proud to see her on tv singing in the choir. yes i did  :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: merv on November 14, 2015, 08:43:19 AM
Good for you, nothing to be a shamed of


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 14, 2015, 09:20:24 AM
 :'( :'( again this morning, don't think i need to say why.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 14, 2015, 09:36:10 AM
and because of the love here, i'll only post updates on MMM.

had far too much s**t on other forums.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Olds on November 14, 2015, 10:33:42 AM
and because of the love here, I'll only post updates on MMM.

Here and the metalshapers forum on FB are the only ones I bother with. They are both places where help, information, encouragement and helpful criticism are freely given, without all the nastiness that is usually found on forums. Life is too short to waste time deriding other peoples views or work (or reading such).


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 14, 2015, 10:58:26 AM
i think thats my problem, taking too much from peoples unwanted criticism.
onwards and upwards.

money is tight but i'll keep plodding on.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Sid_Vicious on November 14, 2015, 03:21:47 PM
Following this silently, but with interest here from my corner of the world. So far it looking good.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: BikerGran on November 14, 2015, 08:19:50 PM
I follow many of these posts fairly silently, I'm so impressed with all these builds!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 14, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
thank you.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: kapri on November 14, 2015, 08:46:11 PM
i think thats my problem, taking too much from peoples unwanted criticism.
onwards and upwards.

money is tight but i'll keep plodding on.

Criticism that they would never say to your face either. :(


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 14, 2015, 08:53:03 PM
thats so true kev.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: BikerGran on November 14, 2015, 09:37:25 PM
And oiften from people who couldn't do what you do!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 14, 2015, 09:49:36 PM
 :-[


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 15, 2015, 12:15:14 AM
Less talking, more building!  ;D


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 16, 2015, 06:29:24 PM
got some enthusiasm to do some work, metal cut, weld weld weld.....................then ran outa wire. ho hum.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 16, 2015, 11:13:43 PM
D'oh!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 16, 2015, 11:19:33 PM
day off tomorrow(yes back one day after a week off to then have a day off  8) ) so will go get some wire.

halfords seem cheapest around for 5kg roll  £20, cheaper than local motorist shop!!!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 17, 2015, 01:30:20 PM
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5564b2bb93ebf0.jpg)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 17, 2015, 04:35:21 PM
well theres some progress, not pretty mind.

started on floor passenger side as i'll need to turn it around to do drivers side door, floor etc.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5564b55d01fcea.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5564b55cfdf673.jpg)

heres the bench seat base mocked up.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5564b55cfa00b6.jpg)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 17, 2015, 09:17:13 PM
On the road for the Spring Chris?


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 18, 2015, 05:21:11 AM
doubt it, i'm about to rip the roof off!!!!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Olds on November 18, 2015, 05:37:03 AM
 :o ?
Rag top or new roof ?


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 18, 2015, 05:41:00 AM
reprofiled roof.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 29, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
not much progress. ::)

roof is staying, gained headheight another way.

i have purchased one of these, a steering relay, as the one fitted is completely siezed and will have to be destroyed to be removed from chassis.
this will also explain the real tight steering when we moved it a while ago. must remember to fill with oil.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5565b1d210aa51.jpg)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 29, 2015, 08:48:50 PM
Care to explain what that is for those of us that are hard of thinking.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on November 29, 2015, 08:56:24 PM
heres a diagram, far better than i can explain.(plus i'm off to bed!!!)

(http://www.seriesdiesellandrover.com/wpimages/wp74420ce2_06.png)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: scannerzer on November 29, 2015, 09:26:59 PM
when you look at that it's no wonder the steering a vague on a landy


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: spanners on December 01, 2015, 01:58:09 AM
heres a diagram, far better than i can explain.(plus i'm off to bed!!!)

(http://www.seriesdiesellandrover.com/wpimages/wp74420ce2_06.png)

remember to ,,time up,, that relay as regards the top and bottom arm positions it makes a whole world of differance to how she will feel on the steering


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on December 01, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
?


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Olds on December 01, 2015, 08:41:11 PM
Making sure that the arms are at the optimum relative positions.
Think it's 90 degrees to the rod that each arm is attached to at the straight ahead position.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on December 01, 2015, 08:45:26 PM
thanks dave.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on December 15, 2015, 05:52:11 PM
some progress!!!!! not a lot though!!!

seat base. back rest just temporary.
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5567050c073480.jpg)

view from passenger seat, going to be a split screen.
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5567050c16ff4f.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5567050c0e9559.jpg)

decided to roll the window surrounds, and fit sliding windows further inside to hopefully give it a better shape.
got to weld and dress along the edge.
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5567050c133441.jpg)

pedal assembly, adapted from a discovery.
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5567050c0ad584.jpg)

and just an idea at present.
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5567050c1a8c1b.jpg)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 15, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
More progress than I've made on mine recently Chris. keep plugging away at it mate.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on December 15, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
cheers andy, after the boy gave me a bollicking for wanting to sell it, the daughter has got at me for not working on it!!!!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Olds on December 15, 2015, 08:53:01 PM
I see you got your extra head room. :)
That disco pedal assembly look handy Chris. I assume there wasn't room for the standard accelerator pedal.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on December 16, 2015, 04:39:14 PM
I see you got your extra head room. :)
That disco pedal assembly look handy Chris. I assume there wasn't room for the standard accelerator pedal.

you noticed the extra headroom then?  lol  seemed easier than raising the roof!!!!

throttle cable connects straight up, so bonus there.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 07, 2016, 08:42:32 PM
if you read my facebook page you will know how this is going.
don't expect any updates for a long while.
just cannot afford new tools/materials that have been ruined by the rain that came through roof when it let go when i
was at work this morning.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 07, 2016, 08:59:31 PM
Take a break from it mate -but don't sell it! :)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Olds on January 08, 2016, 07:20:39 AM
Hope your tools manage to survive the dousing with water. Remove the battery's from anything like meters or power tools and take the covers off things like your mig and let it all dry out.  A hair drier or fan heater helps.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: BikerGran on January 08, 2016, 03:37:37 PM
And the airing cupboard is a good place to put them (tell her I said so!  ;)  )


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 12, 2016, 05:47:49 PM
clean up continues ::)
and i've ordered more steel. ;D


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 12, 2016, 08:10:53 PM
Pleased to hear it Chris. How's the roof?


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 13, 2016, 05:32:45 AM
covered in polythene at moment(inside and out)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 13, 2016, 06:33:43 PM
When I lived with Tazet & the shed roof felt got ripped off in a storm, I ended up putting up an old gazebo inside the shed to keep everything dry. It was still there when we split up a couple of years later.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 13, 2016, 07:10:43 PM
fitted new stair carpet today so brownie points gained.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 19, 2016, 04:32:34 PM
started back on the rusty wreck!!!!

got some floor and infill panels on drivers side cut and part welded in, then run outa gas.  >:( ::)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Olds on January 19, 2016, 06:56:18 PM
started back on the rusty wreck!!!!
 then run outa gas.  >:( ::)

Ain't that always the way.  :)
Have you fixed the roof yet ? Snows a coming ! ;)


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 19, 2016, 08:29:59 PM
no not yet. having to keep things covered at the moment.
got nice (real!!!  :D )  patina on the truck roof!!!!! :o


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on January 19, 2016, 09:19:15 PM
I feel your pain Chris -got the same on my Pop.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 28, 2016, 07:55:50 PM
got some work done today, no pics.

and i've lost all my pics from laptop due to having to re-boot.  >:(


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Olds on January 28, 2016, 08:18:19 PM
Shame. At least you can copy and save ones from this site and facebook etc, back onto your computer.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 28, 2016, 08:33:11 PM
yep, but lots of others gone, thought i had them backed up, but no.

some were very important to this build, ho hum.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on January 31, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
i'm on holiday this week, could be some work done.

trouble is payday is not until next friday  ::)

hope i don't need or break anything this week.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 07, 2016, 05:57:38 PM
should have some news to post soon.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: spanners on March 07, 2016, 06:00:37 PM
should have some news to post soon.
  SOLD   ::) ::)



















 :D :D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on March 07, 2016, 07:21:14 PM
Oh Gawd, you know if one Monkey passes a project onto another it upsets the natural order of things? There'll be a rift in the time space continuum & we'll all be sucked into oblivion. Don't say I didn't warn you.  :o


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: spanners on March 07, 2016, 07:24:20 PM
Oh Gawd, you know if one Monkey passes a project onto another it upsets the natural order of things? There'll be a rift in the time space continuum & we'll all be sucked into oblivion. Don't say I didn't warn you.  :o


ha,,ha,,  fooled ya,,


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 07, 2016, 07:49:25 PM
part of it will be!!!!!  :o

but the body is staying  ;D  i'm more low life than high life!!!! :D


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 07, 2016, 07:50:20 PM
Oh Gawd, you know if one Monkey passes a project onto another it upsets the natural order of things? There'll be a rift in the time space continuum & we'll all be sucked into oblivion. Don't say I didn't warn you.  :o

 :D ;D


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: hunter on March 07, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
 ???


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 08, 2016, 02:29:47 PM
chassis and running gear being sold, to be replaced with something a tad lower!!!!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 09, 2016, 04:12:30 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252306445873?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 15, 2016, 07:25:27 PM
well i've been suffering with terrible tooth ache for the past few days, real banging head against wall pain.  following visit to dentist, i had the lovely job of removing body from chassis, for rolling chassis to be collected tomorrow(going to that big london!!!)  the boy give us a hand. on the hunt for a replacement. must be low.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on March 15, 2016, 08:13:25 PM
Scimitar?


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 15, 2016, 08:31:25 PM
maybe, not going to rush into it.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Baychimp on March 15, 2016, 10:41:47 PM
Go kart! doesn't get much lower than that.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 16, 2016, 07:45:04 PM
big gokart!!!!!  lol

well its gone, my god i need to tidy up. the garage should be twice the size for amount of crap in there!!!


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on March 31, 2016, 04:56:30 PM
well i've gone and bought a retro motor, so the pick up body is for sale. i'm never going to finish it(not in a short time span anyway) plus i think rules and regs are going to spoil things shortly.

https://www.facebook.com/chrisdralph/posts/630750713742781


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on March 31, 2016, 07:45:30 PM
Brave decision Chris, but entirely understandable.


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: spanners on April 05, 2016, 04:30:54 PM
what have you gone and bought chris ? ?


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2016, 06:52:15 PM
30yr old volvo. not worthy of this great forum.

you can have a laugh look here.

http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/188156/1987-volvo-340?page=1&scrollTo=2193267


Title: Re: hotrod land Rover.
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 05, 2016, 08:08:23 PM
You change cars like I do girlfriends.


Title: Re:rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 11, 2016, 07:23:47 PM
well the body is still in the garage, on the look out locally for a cheap later modeled chassis vehicle,
so not given up on it.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on December 03, 2016, 06:37:50 PM
going to get back onto this in new year, been putting shout out for a rolling chassis but no luck yet. why do people think they're worth a million pound!!!!  not talking anything old, just 90's vehicles!!! think there's a lot of dreamers out there. 


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 04, 2016, 08:48:44 AM
Find yourself a cheap Scimitar & pull it apart mate. Or bite the bullet & build from scratch for BIVA testing?
I had my Pop chassis rails welded up by Jimmy at Valley Gas Speed Shop in Berkshire, (now in Hampshire), for 500 quid. One off, basic side rails & front & rear cross members with front spring perch, although we later dropped the front lower & extended the back. I ain't rich, so it was a lot of cash to find, but Loon & I weren't confident we could build it level & true so it was worth getting right to give us a good base to start from.
Glad to hear you haven't given up on this one Chris. Personally I think your cab roof could do with some curves, but I love the bulkhead. It'll be interesting to see where you go with it.  ;)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on December 04, 2016, 08:58:16 PM
project is going to carry on as a father - son build.
he won't let me sell it(or my daily!!!!) he's only 17,


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on December 04, 2016, 09:10:07 PM
Good for him!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on December 04, 2016, 09:45:21 PM
i seem to be a taxi at the moment as he's at sixth form(2nd yr) and working.
he wants to get a advanced apprenticeship when finished his advanced b-tec.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: BikerGran on December 04, 2016, 11:04:41 PM
That's what happens when kids have parents who DO stuff - they want to do stuff too!  Good for him and good for you!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on February 02, 2017, 06:50:30 PM
well, an old project could be returning, is that a good idea?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 02, 2017, 07:56:40 PM
I think you need to install a roundabout on your driveway!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on February 02, 2017, 08:14:50 PM
I think you need to install a roundabout on your driveway!


lol, yes i do!!!!! ::)
got to go have a look at previous vehicle. depends how much of it is left!!!!! :o


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on March 31, 2017, 02:58:01 PM
well previous vehicle is beyond saving.

but a major update on this one within the next week.



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on March 31, 2017, 08:22:27 PM
So which previous one was it Chris?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: spanners on March 31, 2017, 08:39:34 PM
So which previous one was it Chris?

MINX,,??????


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 01, 2017, 03:32:31 AM
So which previous one was it Chris?
the brown one!!!!!  lol


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 01, 2017, 03:34:50 AM
So which previous one was it Chris?

MINX,,??????

that is for sale mike, but its had a bare metal respray and engine rebuild!!!!

(http://media6000.dropshots.com/photos/1101204/20161012/b_130147.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 01, 2017, 07:08:36 PM
new parts ordered, going to take a couple of weeks to turn up as being made to order!!!!! 


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 02, 2017, 12:43:31 PM
garage all cleaned for tomorrow!!!!! 


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: spanners on April 02, 2017, 02:12:32 PM
garage all cleaned for tomorrow!!!!! 

so,,,, tell us whats going in it


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2017, 04:17:59 PM
(http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/Q2IAAOSwll1Wzvua/s-l225.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 05, 2017, 04:24:21 PM
Tease!
The brown one ...Citroen or Pop? 


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2017, 04:26:05 PM
new vehicle andy. for rebody using my part built cab.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2017, 04:27:54 PM
(http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/9nYAAOSwYHxWFnM-/s-l225.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Baychimp on April 05, 2017, 06:45:30 PM
Its a Vauxhall of some description.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2017, 07:29:12 PM
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/558e5453f2685d.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/558e5453fac997.jpg)



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2017, 07:38:08 PM
any reason why the reg would be non transferable? not that i want to, just wondering why,

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/558e5454045b55.jpg)



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: BikerGran on April 05, 2017, 07:57:42 PM
Is it an imported vehicle?  - I mean a grey import that wasn't originally built for the british market?  If it was imported and allocated a reg number that could be it.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2017, 08:22:48 PM
uk market model.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: BikerGran on April 05, 2017, 09:10:09 PM
In that case I have no idea.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 05, 2017, 09:59:11 PM
I'd leave it like that -I like that!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 06, 2017, 06:05:45 AM
I'd leave it like that -I like that!

strange you say that andy, the more i look at it i'm thinking the same!!!!! plus it runs, drives, stops etc, just not been mot'ed since 2012!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 06, 2017, 05:42:22 PM
well the strip down has started,
removed steering column, brake and clutch pedals which look ideal to swap straight over.
speedo, switches etc.
wiper motor and linkages.
anything i can remove that could be useful is being removed.
luckily there's no airbag, but plenty of electricals!!!
some how it runs and drives ok with the immobiliser ecu removed!!!! no idea how.

managed to find a diagram to show where the ten bolts are that hold body on.

hope to get it removed by next week end.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 06, 2017, 08:35:55 PM
So what engine does that have then Chris?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 07, 2017, 04:22:55 AM
2litre, 8v nothing crazy.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 11, 2017, 06:53:08 PM
still stripping, my god theres some crap in modern vehicles.

dashborad area, erm its gone!!!!!!
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/558ed2185747b6.jpg)

the body is very solid, thought for a while it was to good to strip down.
(http://media6000.dropshots.com/photos/1101204/20170411/r90_x_190532.jpg)

trying to use as much of donor as possible, pedals, along with braking system will all be used.
(http://media6000.dropshots.com/photos/1101204/20170411/r90_x_190658.jpg)

going to try to use steering column complete, even removed mounting bar,plates etc.
(http://media6000.dropshots.com/photos/1101204/20170411/r90_x_190726.jpg)

been told this bit is very important!!!!
(http://media6000.dropshots.com/photos/1101204/20170411/x_190745.jpg)

these will be have to be cut of as siezed solid. only 10 to find!!!!!
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/558ed218812bd5.jpg)

got to finish removing wiring loom, drain, remove radiator then a few odds and sods, should then be lift off!!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 14, 2017, 06:18:53 PM
so 7 chassis bolts removed, 4 cut off, 3 removed at rear, fighting with a stubborn one that i think will shear off.

just got front bumper to remove then last 2 bolts. radiator etc,

then last few bits of wiring along with rear seat belts.

should then be body off.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 14, 2017, 06:55:00 PM
Oh my Gawd! He's done it again!  :D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 20, 2017, 04:49:11 PM
body still on, as suffering with trapped nerve in shoulder also don't help that i load vans at work.
i've got a 6inche drop just from wheel and tyre change(mostly tyres!!!) 9 1/2 inches stock, will come down to 3 1/2" ish soon. could be  a little higher due to less body weight. torson bars at front so can easily raise(or lower!!!) it an inche if required.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 20, 2017, 08:43:54 PM
Get well soon matey -so we can follow your progress.  ;)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 24, 2017, 04:57:48 PM
still no work done, got sent home from work early today. been to docs this afternoon.
muscle and nerve damage, been told to take a few days of work.
put on diazepam, said it will take at least ten days to start to feel better.
 


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 24, 2017, 07:34:07 PM
Bugger.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 24, 2017, 08:20:14 PM
just abit, been told i MUST rest.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 26, 2017, 10:34:47 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pre-order-All-metal-All-new-1930-Ford-Pickup-Truck-Roadster-Pickup-Hot-Rod-Body-/361946372621?roken=cUgayN

3 1/2 grand, but a bunch of handy reference photos for you there Chris.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 27, 2017, 07:35:38 AM
thats handy andy!!!!!(  ::) )   :D

will give it alook. cheers.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 27, 2017, 01:45:39 PM
back to docs tomorrow, in left shoulder as well now.  :(


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 28, 2017, 12:49:43 PM
thats me signed off for 9 days!!!! not happy. but then struggling to lift coffee cup at times.
guess i should stop moaning as lots of people far worse than me.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: scannerzer on April 28, 2017, 07:38:03 PM
if it's rotator cuff I have been suffering for about 3 months now with not much improvment >:(


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on April 28, 2017, 10:10:50 PM
all i've been told is its muscle related, on new medication, making me sleepy rather than feeling pissed!!!!! baclofen?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 01, 2017, 07:04:23 AM
so want to get on with this. grrrrr.......


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: BikerGran on May 01, 2017, 08:35:23 PM
Baclofen - never heard of it soi I googled it - hope you've read the info leaflet........


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 01, 2017, 09:26:33 PM
I thought he said Bacon.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 01, 2017, 10:13:22 PM
Baclofen - never heard of it soi I googled it - hope you've read the info leaflet........
i had to look on net as no info leaflet.
can be lots of side effects!!!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: BikerGran on May 02, 2017, 04:18:21 PM
Yeah, same with most drugs - it's the interactions that I look at!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 02, 2017, 04:34:06 PM
well i've got the tyres here.
going to be using original alloys sprayed matt or satin black with lower profile tyres fitted.

could only manage to lift one tyre into garage. my boy had to move the others.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 09, 2017, 01:23:06 PM
i'm back to work, but boy am i struggling. physically and mentally.

ok enough of my minor problems back to the build.

not done a thing, no motivation. but a question.

rebody, does it matter if tyres are changed? wheels original but a change of rubber. would i be
best to leave originals on for finished pics then change?
cheers.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 09, 2017, 03:00:50 PM
Surely it'd be alright wouldn't it? If it's legal to change tyres on a normal car, it should be on yours shouldn't it?
As you say though, maybe wait till after the inspection.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 09, 2017, 03:23:38 PM
no inspection andy, form filling(v627/1) and photo's hopefully unless they have moved the goalposts again.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: kapri on May 09, 2017, 07:40:58 PM
Same goalposts at the mo still Chris.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 09, 2017, 07:52:51 PM
good to hear kev, one problem i have is body colour does not match v5c(been hand painted) do i send v5 off with colour change? i guess that would rule out one problem that they could pick up on.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 09, 2017, 10:39:02 PM
Send a black & white photo! :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: kapri on May 10, 2017, 02:15:19 PM
Yup, update the V5C now Chris.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 10, 2017, 02:45:37 PM
cheers kev, i guessed that would be a wise move.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 10, 2017, 02:50:33 PM
https://www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-details-registration-certificate/changes-youll-need-to-update

******** just looking at this but never noticed this before? *******

Changes you need to update
You must update your V5C if you change any of the following:

colour
engine
cylinder capacity (cc)
fuel type
*******  chassis or bodyshell (replaced or modified)   ******
seating capacity
weight of a large vehicle, eg goods vehicle or campervan


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 10, 2017, 03:47:02 PM
So what constitutes "modified"? How far can you go before you need to notify them?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: stinkey on May 10, 2017, 06:43:02 PM
Anything apart from wipers and bulbs ? :D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 10, 2017, 07:37:13 PM
no idea, don't know if its ever been written anywhere by dvla? kev? i know you've said about bulkheads and gearbox tunnel plus rear quarters. i guess it is written some where. there were some great links and write ups on the old ACE site.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: kapri on May 10, 2017, 09:32:08 PM
Yes they was good info but no one paid any attention to it and it was costing all the  guys money to keep it all up there . Those words have been on the DVLA site for around 5 years now ;)  Same words used to be used on an info leaflet that used to be supplied with old V5s. Wouldn't have made any difference as back then unless it was a glaring modification the phone answere would have said " No, you don't need to notify us cos there is nowhere on the form to do it ".

This where DVLA sould be brought to task for creating so many problems for themselves.

There is what is currently still discussion that DVLA will draw a line in the sand on modified Historics and anything already done will be regarded as part of the cars Historic nature . I'll wait til I see it in writing and EXACTLY what they mean by it before celebrating ut it does seem the simplest way to put the toilet seat down.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 11, 2017, 07:42:44 PM
going to take someone with big ones and deep pockets i think kev.

i've been back on it today, first time in about 3+weeks.
wiring now stored away, engine loom in one box, everything else in another.
everything out of interior that could be usefull(yes i know most will never ever be used!!!) has also been stored.
ended up cutting of last rear chassis bolt, still got 2 more at front which will also have to be cut as they have been inline of fire from mud,water etc for over 20yrs!!!! but need to remove bumper first which again will need bolts cutting.
i cut inner wing on drivers side to help when lifting to clear brake master/servo.
handbrake will be the last thing to disconnect due to it keeping the vehicle inside the garage!!!!lol

i know i need to take a picture of chassis number, do i also need vin plate photo?



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 11, 2017, 08:31:05 PM
We need a photo of your naked chassis!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: spanners on May 11, 2017, 09:56:58 PM
We need a photo of your naked chassis!

OI,, this is a family friendly forum   :D :D :D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 21, 2017, 01:48:27 PM
suppose i better put a pic up, not a lot has happened, cut the front of which will save us lifting body up over engine. just handbrake to disconnect(and keep to re-use)
the body does lift up from chassis so all good there.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/559219d9d1274f.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 25, 2017, 06:10:15 AM
body coming off today, will try to grab some pics later.
need to get the boy out of his pit soon!!!!! lol


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Olds on May 25, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
Good luck with the body lift Chris. There is usually a cable, earth strap or pipe that somehow got overlooked. :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 25, 2017, 01:05:15 PM
Yup, & it'll suddenly become the strongest cable in the World! :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 25, 2017, 02:23:24 PM
well me and the boy could'nt have had enough weetabix this morning as body still on!!!!!
had to postpone collection tomorrow. ::)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 25, 2017, 03:39:57 PM
What's the hold up Chris?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on May 25, 2017, 03:44:37 PM
erm....................muscle!!!!!  lol


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 25, 2017, 04:29:50 PM
 :D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 05, 2017, 03:15:23 PM
just some random pics of as things are at moment.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5593573d90152f.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5593573d880d74.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5593573d8bebfd.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5593573da5690a.jpg)

and who knows what these are? don't think there is a production vehicle fitted with these anymore, i was surprised these were still fitted into the 21st century!!!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5593573d9da1e2.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: the coppersmith on June 05, 2017, 03:38:21 PM
are they torsion bars ?? only speaking of them today for a project funny enough.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 08, 2017, 06:54:22 PM
well this lot going tomorrow afternoon.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/559399c5137e39.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/559399c5079137.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/559399c50b6755.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/559399c50f2dd8.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/559399c503919b.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 08, 2017, 08:47:59 PM
You know you'll scrap the one irreplaceable bit you'll realise you really, really need don't you :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 09, 2017, 02:12:08 PM
seems like no one wants to collect without v5c!!!!!
think i'll dump it all out back an watch the vultures decend!!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 09, 2017, 09:56:22 PM
:)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 15, 2017, 06:53:36 PM
hi everyone,
been some progress today, thanks mostly to my son greg for the help, even got him on the spanners!!!

this happened.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55942d60048d4e.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55942d6008bf84.jpg)

took a couple of hours, bit of swearing etc but we got there in the end.

this is what is left. seems really solid, need to make up some new brake and fuel lines.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55942d5ff7192a.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55942d5ffb601c.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 16, 2017, 09:46:12 AM
Rent a skip & bung the body in there? Must be someone on the internet who can dispose of a body for you?!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: the coppersmith on June 16, 2017, 10:06:19 AM
people will move in if you dont watch out  :D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 16, 2017, 12:46:31 PM
body gone thank god. do need to check nothing has been left though!!!!!  lol


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 16, 2017, 03:40:32 PM
well this happened this afternoon!!!! should'nt have done it on my own but hey ho.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55943fa9e8859e.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55943fa9d8e198.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55943fa9d46d9e.jpg)

and if andy can do it!!!!! but i'm not quite model material!!!! lol

and glad sun was shinning!!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55943fa9dd101f.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 16, 2017, 05:10:31 PM
 :D Ha ha!! Lookin' good Chris!
It's practically finished -on the road next week!
So -for the stoopid among us, (yeah, me), this is a re-body. Totally legit? No BIVA required? VOSA inspection needed when it's finished? Or literally send the V5C back to DVLA to change the body type? Just to clarify for other readers.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: the coppersmith on June 16, 2017, 05:26:11 PM
I like that, I did wonder what you were going to do, but yeah, that's good. cool 8) 8)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 16, 2017, 05:38:46 PM
need to fill in a v627/1 form (built up vehicle report)
pics of vehicle with number plate showing before tear down, then no/plate with rolling chassis, and finally one of finished vehicle with no/plates showing.
send with v5c(i think? kev?) to dvla.
make of vehicle stays the same but model has to be changed.(new name) ie. "vauxhall poprodder" for example.
if they are happy no inspection, but if not inspection by sgs.

hope i've got that all correct.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 16, 2017, 09:46:59 PM
SGS?
We do try to inform once in a while, so it's all useful info for readers, (we get a lot who read but don't ever post).
As you were. Carry on  :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 17, 2017, 03:14:52 AM
sgs are contracted by dvla to do vehicle inspections.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 17, 2017, 07:27:36 AM
O.K, thanks.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Baychimp on June 18, 2017, 01:25:58 AM
 Slimy government slugs. ;D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: merv on June 18, 2017, 07:41:46 AM
Slimy government slugs. ;D

 

 ;D



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 18, 2017, 08:03:09 AM
Probably best not to call 'em that when you take your trike for testing!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on June 18, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
why is it when i want to work on it, its like a sauna in there!!!!
sweating buckets just from looking at it!!! lol
i'm also not one for sitting on beach or walking around in the sunshine(yes i really am a miserable git!!!!)
guess i'll make a parts list up.

i used plastic fuel lines on my minx, thinking about them on this, in my mind just as good as copper.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 02, 2017, 04:27:27 PM
well where do i start. (facebookers will know most of this)

i've had a couple of bad months with the black dog, plus family medical problems(mrs poprodder)  which have really tested/nearly broke  us,
long nights talking, hospital visits etc, everything is ok for now but it really frightened me, like really, really.

onto automotive things.
 
my daily is an auto and i've been trying to swap it for a manual, but i've been fussy and like the car.
so i've started collecting parts to convert to manual.
this has diverted my interests so decided to see if i could sell some rod parts, i've lost all interest in rods etc.

i've sold the pick up body!!!!!!! collection later in the week.

i've also had an offer on chassis and running gear, don't know if i'll part with that yet.
but garage space could be turning into decking area etc.  as i evaluate family life etc.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 03, 2017, 07:06:32 AM
Glad to hear Mrs P's alright mate.
Often takes a wake up call like that to make you take stock of your life & decide what's most important. They're only vehicles.
However it works out, you'll always be welcome here :)  


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Olds on September 03, 2017, 07:55:08 AM
Family comes first mate.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on September 07, 2017, 03:34:04 PM
cheers guys.

well the body has gone, down essex way.

chassis still here, will chase up the buyer(waster?) but no hurry there.



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on November 25, 2017, 04:01:34 PM
i'm on look out for a very cheap body to put on chassis, i'll consider anything but must be cheap cheap.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 25, 2017, 09:01:51 PM
Another chapter in the saga? :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on November 25, 2017, 09:12:24 PM
yes, not rushing, been on look out for a while.
still got rolling chassis.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 25, 2017, 10:19:34 PM
Glad to hear you've stuck with it. Is the chassis too big for something like a '27 T body? (Just thinking they're about the cheapest 'glass bodies around).


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on November 25, 2017, 10:30:45 PM
i think so, i did have t body dimensions somewhere.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on April 12, 2018, 06:19:35 PM
got  a lead onto a very cheap pop body, already cut up which won't matter.
problem is its just a body with no doors etc!!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: spanners on April 12, 2018, 09:10:43 PM
got  a lead onto a very cheap pop body, already cut up which won't matter.
problem is its just a body with no doors etc!!!!

You don't really need doors  ,, do you ???


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 12, 2018, 09:27:06 PM
No doors on mine at the moment either! :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: spanners on April 12, 2018, 09:29:51 PM
No doors on mine at the moment either! :)

Good job ,, we  are going to have a heat wave ,,lol,


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 13, 2018, 10:52:05 AM
Good -I want to put the final paint on next week.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: spanners on April 13, 2018, 11:12:46 AM
Good weather from Monday onwards for one week


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 13, 2018, 11:59:01 AM
'bout bloomin' time!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: spanners on April 13, 2018, 12:09:23 PM
'bout bloomin' time!
Might give me a chance to build a new shed ,,, ready for the week after when it peees. It down again ,lol,


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on June 07, 2018, 06:11:05 PM
bid put on body on ebay, lets see what happens.


its prewar design.
:-X


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 07, 2018, 10:07:58 PM
Hmm, curious!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on June 09, 2018, 07:56:27 PM
well thats end of that ::)

but maybe a new direction, i've been in garage working :o :o

yes i realy have!!!  ;D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 09, 2018, 09:31:47 PM
O.K -curious & confused.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on July 03, 2018, 05:14:11 PM
still heading in different direction, buying parts as and when, pre-war design with a big twist.
certainly going to be marmite!!!! lol


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 03, 2018, 08:57:18 PM
Seriously mate, you can't build a car out of Marmite. No structural integrity at all.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Baychimp on July 03, 2018, 11:20:58 PM
He's right you know,try Bread sticks and Cream Cheese. ::)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 03, 2018, 11:31:19 PM
Now you're talkin'!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: The North on July 06, 2018, 09:16:54 PM
What are you doing poproder  Fabricating a body from scratch or looking to  piece together body parts you can find.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on July 07, 2018, 07:05:29 PM
erm............ok, looking at doing something like this.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Aon71oGpMmQ/TfGvI6QgznI/AAAAAAAABqg/O6-XWfMk8Lw/s1600/Jeep+YJ+Miata+Meep+drag+racing.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: The North on July 07, 2018, 09:02:44 PM
 ;D Is that a kit car body or a made up or moded original.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on July 07, 2018, 09:10:18 PM
just an example, prefer willys jeep tub,
that pic is body panels attached to a mx5!!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: stinkey on July 08, 2018, 08:18:14 AM
Interesting ? Will it pass the test ?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on July 08, 2018, 08:43:23 AM
i'm doing a re-body on swb frontera.
one above is in usa.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Olds on July 08, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Genuine Willys jeep tubs go for big money and are hard to find. Mahindra or Jago might be easier, but the design is so simple it would be fairly easy to make. The Jeep was a lot narrower than the Frontera so widened wings/flares or a wide body. If doing a self build body, using a modified series Land Rover bulkhead/screen might save a lot of work.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: spanners on July 08, 2018, 06:39:12 PM
i'm doing a re-body on swb frontera.
one above is in usa.

Got a real good frontera here


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on July 08, 2018, 09:11:24 PM
got rolling chassis mike,
body will be scratch built where possible, been looking at "owner type jeeps"

look on google for pics.

(https://www.myboracayguide.com/info/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Mainland-Tour-Custom-Jeep-Rental-00.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: The North on July 12, 2018, 07:56:03 AM
Like the idea but think i am with olds a mahindra or better still the jago jeep idea its less fraught with registration difficulties too how i see it.



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on July 12, 2018, 01:24:05 PM
registration will be rebody.

using a v627/1 built up vehicle report form.

chassis and running gear,engine etc will be stock.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: The North on July 12, 2018, 03:20:31 PM
so no test required for that then. Right? 8)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: stinkey on July 12, 2018, 09:16:11 PM
I'm sure you will still need to test it ?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: The North on July 12, 2018, 10:20:45 PM
I'm sure you will still need to test it ?

I meant a test other than MOT, or will it indeed need just such a test?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: Olds on July 13, 2018, 05:00:30 AM
As far as I'm aware, if kept within the rules then it shouldn't require full BIVA testing, but may need to be inspected and it's best to build to BIVA standards just in case.
Remember NO alterations to the chassis. Best to keep as much of the driveline, suspension, steering and brakes, as standard as possible. Obviously no sharp edges etc, and you need to keep to, or exceed standards that were applicable when the vehicle was originally made, on items such as seat belts, glass and lighting.
Steering and brakes are areas on older vehicles, where the 8 point rule and BIVA can come into conflict. To keep them as originally built, means that building to BIVA standards is impossible, but that shouldn't affect anything originally made from the 70's on.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: stinkey on July 13, 2018, 07:42:52 AM
As Olds said..it's going to need some sort of test..unless it was simply left registered as original ? But those days are coming to an end? :o


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: The North on July 13, 2018, 07:47:19 AM
Ok thanks for the explanation appreciated i am largely in the dark and certainly negative in attitude when it comes to these Tests, i really should get my act together and do the research on what is what! at least then my ignorance on such matters wont be as obvious.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: poprodder on July 13, 2018, 10:47:39 AM
yep, could well need an inspection by sgs if dvla are anyway unhappy, (only sending the minimuim required, photo's etc)
once documents are all updated it will then need an MOT.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod **NEWS***
Post by: The North on July 13, 2018, 11:55:14 AM
I have downloaded the IVA book and saved the detail pages off the GOV site, and plan to inwardly digest it, it looks to be changing in september this year.
  My Devon will be stock chassis and body and i think i need to do more research before i decide on the mechanicals  to avoid complications.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on July 23, 2018, 09:09:34 PM
ok, bought some parts today, not going jeep route but will be some type of hotrod(just don't ask me what yet!!! lol)

some of you will no doubt know what these are off.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180723/b_170755.jpg)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 23, 2018, 11:50:32 PM
Ooh, interesting.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: stinkey on July 24, 2018, 06:25:28 AM
Me likes Hotrods 8)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on July 24, 2018, 07:06:51 PM
searching for a body, will be a pick up. couple on ebay.

and yes i know i had a part built one.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 02, 2018, 12:17:42 PM
little bit of progress, body being delivered tomorrow afternoon ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 02, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
and its 1954, but not stock.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 02, 2018, 03:06:59 PM
Oooooh! :)
Can't wait to see it now!


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 02, 2018, 03:07:47 PM
and not complete!!!  :o ::)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Olds on August 02, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
When you say "not complete' do you mean it's missing some trim, or, you've bought a pair of doors ? ;)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 02, 2018, 04:56:35 PM
need a pair of doors!!!!!  lol
thats no bad thing to start with as they will be in the way.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: stinkey on August 02, 2018, 07:14:43 PM
So does Andy ? ::)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 03, 2018, 11:47:55 AM
seems none of us have a complete body!!!! lol


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 03, 2018, 02:13:02 PM
sitting here like an expectant dad, please hurry up with my new plaything. :D :D :D


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 03, 2018, 03:40:58 PM
its on the way!!!!!!   ;D
                                   ;D
                                        ;D
                                             ;D
                                          ;D
                                               ;D 


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Olds on August 03, 2018, 03:54:46 PM
You found someone to pick it up then.  :) That was quick. :)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 03, 2018, 04:03:32 PM
You found someone to pick it up then.  :) That was quick. :)

yep, return journey home so cheap cheap ;D


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 03, 2018, 04:58:34 PM
 :-\ :-\ :-\
stuck in traffic, redilvery monday.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 03, 2018, 08:27:48 PM
D'oh!


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Olds on August 03, 2018, 09:02:27 PM
That's a shame.
As for a lack of doors, as far as I'm aware, there's nothing in the construction and use regs to say that doors are required. You and Andy could start a new trend.  ;)  ;D


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 04, 2018, 08:01:00 AM
I did actually wonder about that! MOT legal then?


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Olds on August 04, 2018, 03:30:58 PM
Seems that a lack of doors is not a MOT failure point. Though a safety strap (willys jeep) might be a good idea. :)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 05, 2018, 10:17:35 AM
will have doors as this could if ever finished become a daily(ish) due to 4 pot engine and standard drive train.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 05, 2018, 07:56:10 PM
Looking forward to seeing this one :)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 06, 2018, 09:55:19 AM
well this happened this morning.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180806/b_054650.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180806/b_054652.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180806/b_054653.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180806/b_054655.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180806/b_054656.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180806/b_054658.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180806/b_054659.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180806/b_054701.jpg)



Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Olds on August 06, 2018, 10:12:35 AM
The dog arrived then. :) Didn't take long to drop it onto the frame.
Think you might need bigger wheels (& some doors, wings, bonnet,................................................) ;)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 06, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
10mins!!!! then 1 1/2hr to get back inside!!!! me and boy wringing wet after that!!!! i've now got a long shift at work. great fun. lol


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 06, 2018, 05:09:06 PM
Dog, as in Rover?


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 06, 2018, 05:21:42 PM
Dog, as in Rover?

yep.
p4 but i've no idea of year!!! lol 54 to 64


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 11, 2018, 12:50:43 PM
if things go to plan(ok silly ideas!!!) it won't be a pick up.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 11, 2018, 01:27:04 PM
Huh? Small van? Or have you bought the back half of a P4 too?!


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 11, 2018, 03:00:04 PM
trying to buy a back half, making a very swb coupe!!!!(which thinking about it is way out of my skill set)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: paulywombats on August 11, 2018, 04:58:37 PM
you'll be fine....what could possibly go wrong? Answers on a post card to MMM no later that 12th of this month.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: BikerGran on August 11, 2018, 05:22:01 PM
D'you know, I can't think of anything to say!

 :o :o


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 11, 2018, 05:37:16 PM
D'you know, I can't think of anything to say!

 :o :o


think that will be my new signature!!!!!




Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: BikerGran on August 11, 2018, 09:19:37 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Olds on August 11, 2018, 10:27:09 PM
 ;D
A tray back ute might be the easiest route.
Before worrying about the back, think I'd at least try to find some front wings to determine how far back the body needs to sit on the chassis. That or some very careful measuring.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 13, 2018, 05:42:20 AM
got a call last night from a local club member, having a chat he say's i hear your looking for some p4 parts? yes say's i,
i'm awaiting another call this morning as said person is breaking 2 p4's!!!!! result. this is just 15 mile up the road!!!!
happy days.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 13, 2018, 10:07:36 AM
going to have a look when on holiday in 2 weeks time.


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 13, 2018, 01:39:16 PM
How lucky is that :)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 13, 2018, 07:43:50 PM
i know!!!! got offered pair of doors and bonnet through another local club member
but these looked like they had been on a banger racer!!!!  :o :o :o

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180813/b_154032.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180813/b_154033.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180813/b_154034.jpg)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 13, 2018, 09:17:05 PM
"May require some cosmetic work" :)


Title: Re: Rebodied Hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 14, 2018, 04:11:45 PM
i've been trying to use as many frontera parts as possible.
got the steering column roughly in place, this will save a lot of work.

this is roughly stock position on the rover.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180814/b_115823.jpg)

length is near enough spot on but does depend on front wing position but there is some movement in wheel position now.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180814/r270_b_115824.jpg)

and wheel position, with wheel fitted, i've done this style of car before and i'm going there again!!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180814/b_115822.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180814/b_115821.jpg)




Title: Re: Down Boy!!!!
Post by: morrag on August 14, 2018, 05:06:42 PM
Is that the metal version of a "patchwork" quilt?......... ??? ???


Title: Re: Down Boy!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 14, 2018, 05:17:08 PM
Is that the metal version of a "patchwork" quilt?......... ??? ???

erm yes, and its all going!!!!!


Title: Re: Down Boy!!!!
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 14, 2018, 09:07:56 PM
So, I hear we're going sky high with this one?


Title: Re: Down Boy!!!!
Post by: poprodder on August 15, 2018, 03:19:29 AM
So, I hear we're going sky high with this one?

yes!!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 21, 2018, 06:59:11 PM
box steel ordered, already got steel sheet for floor

floor coming out, new box frame being made up which will also have body mounts to match chassis mount positions,
then new floor.
got to replace brake lines and fuel pipes which will be done once frame work is made.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 21, 2018, 08:54:19 PM
Progress! We like progress :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 23, 2018, 09:46:00 AM
waiting in all morning for a delivery,

wow parcel force can deliver on time!!!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180823/b_054219.jpg)

i better go get on with it!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 23, 2018, 03:24:14 PM
:)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 23, 2018, 04:25:51 PM
The joys of mock up fab work. Measure ten times, then sit and look, measure another ten times then maybe cut!!!! Lol yes that patch work floor is going, to be replaced by framework and new floor 100mm higher. #channelled #lowslow #ratrod

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180823/b_122035.jpg)

Patch work floor to be replaced in ratrod. Body was on a car with separate chassis (as it still will be)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180823/b_122037.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180823/b_122034.jpg)

the floor is same both sides,



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 28, 2018, 11:26:17 AM
Slowly building framework up for body channel, same for other side then body will sit 5inches lower on chassis. Floor panels will be last so I can access underneath.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180828/b_072508.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 28, 2018, 12:41:15 PM
So do they hang along either side of the chassis, like a ladder?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 28, 2018, 01:14:51 PM
will bolt to original 4 body mounts as can be seen through hole in floor,

artistic impression(ish!!!!!  lol)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180828/b_091341.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 28, 2018, 01:18:02 PM
a bit overkill but should be a tad stronger than whats there now.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 28, 2018, 08:30:34 PM
more progress, frame work tacked in on passenger side,

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180828/r90_b_162551.jpg)

put body on its back, floor really is a mess.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180828/b_162548.jpg)

then started cutting floor out.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180828/b_162546.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 28, 2018, 10:12:47 PM
Does the body have enough structure to cut the whole floor out without it distorting? Might be worth adding a few temporary braces?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 28, 2018, 10:41:29 PM
the back panel is made from 2mm steel plate!!!
its really rigid with frame work inside. i'm amazed with how much steel isin front scuttle/bulkhead.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 28, 2018, 10:50:22 PM
:)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 29, 2018, 11:55:46 AM
Roof leaking, things have got a bit wet!!!  :( :( ::) ::)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 30, 2018, 10:15:32 AM
a bit of progress this morning.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_061245.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_061246.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_061247.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 30, 2018, 01:08:28 PM
rest of floor removed.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_090021.jpg)

bottom of cab back will be trimmed level with floor.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_090023.jpg)

just other side to do now!!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_090024.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 30, 2018, 02:07:12 PM
located front doors, awaiting delivery confirmation.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 30, 2018, 05:14:24 PM
I had doors once :(


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 30, 2018, 06:35:29 PM
not the best but not a lot to choose from, early alloy ones as well.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/x_143216.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/x_143217.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/x_143219.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 30, 2018, 06:35:58 PM
any news on your doors Andy?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 30, 2018, 06:51:45 PM
finished welding this side, cleaned bottom of cab level, then splashed some paint on, yes shiny!!!! lol

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_144717.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_144715.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180830/b_144713.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 30, 2018, 07:49:52 PM
:) Nope.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 30, 2018, 08:00:12 PM
:) Nope.

thats not good.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 30, 2018, 09:27:29 PM
 :) I made the mistake of saying there was no rush for them & he said he'd fit them in between other jobs. Not holding me up at the moment, but I'll have to chase him up at some point.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on August 30, 2018, 10:03:39 PM
can remember customers at boatyard saying no rush, biggest mistake they could make.
2yrs later boats were still unfinished due to other so called rush jobs coming in.
imo you need to get onto him now Andy.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 31, 2018, 08:50:37 AM
Yes Sir :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 01, 2018, 08:55:02 AM
not much progress yesterday,
cut floor pan out on other side,

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180901/b_044558.jpg)

welded where needed.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180901/b_044600.jpg)

need to trim front of floor and finish welding.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180901/b_044601.jpg)

once painted i will sit it back onto chassis and start making mountings to fix to original frontera body chassis mounts.
don't know whether to use original rubber mounts or metal to metal.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 01, 2018, 08:55:58 AM
and yes my welder is over 20yrs old and really past its best!!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 01, 2018, 04:22:36 PM
Body back down on chassis, needs to go lower at back by about 3inches.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180901/b_121629.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180901/b_121631.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180901/b_121632.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180901/b_121633.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180901/b_121634.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 01, 2018, 08:19:25 PM
Ahh, now I see how the framework works :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 01, 2018, 10:44:56 PM
a few alterations to do but to be expected as no way to know how it will sit until its all in.
doors not here until 10th, plenty to do though. body needs to be lower, body mounts once its in correct position, got frontera steering and pedals to fit.
brake lines to replace and some fuel lines. its nice not having to deal with suspension and chassis work, but i have got electrics to do as engine is fuel injection. going to see if i can delete transfer box and propshaft. really want to take out front axle(seperate hubs like a fwd) but that can wait. got an idea for exhaust, most will hate it(which i like)  most are going to hate the whole thing anyway :D ;D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: stinkey on September 02, 2018, 08:44:59 AM
So what's the look (sketch/drawing?) your going for sir? Because I'm perplexed /intrigued as to what your trying to achieve here ?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 02, 2018, 11:08:18 AM
 a ratrod pick up, lowered by channeling body.
no sketch or drawing(would end up looking like a 5yr olds car pic!!!) all in my head!!! yes a dangerous place to be!!!
 


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: stinkey on September 02, 2018, 06:02:43 PM
Well it certainly qualifies as a RAT  :D I was kinda hoping for something else,but not sure what ? ???


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 02, 2018, 08:39:19 PM
I'm not hating it at all. I'm intrigued to see how this one turns out :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 02, 2018, 08:55:04 PM
I'm not hating it at all. I'm intrigued to see how this one turns out :)
i'm intrigued as well!!!! lol

nothing done today, spent day with wife, shopping, lunch, cooked dinner together, now sitting here after watching f1.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: stinkey on September 02, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
Quite a few of us ARE  ;D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 04, 2018, 09:47:35 PM
little bit of progress today,
rear of floor frame altered to lower body at rear. lots of work, does the job.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180904/b_173403.jpg)

started on body mounts, in kit form!!! lol mostly frontera parts.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180904/b_173408.jpg)

o/s mounts finished, nothing amazing but will do the job.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180904/b_173406.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180904/b_173405.jpg)

got this hell to sort out!!!! :o :o :o ??? ??? ???

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180904/b_173632.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180904/b_173633.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Stix on September 05, 2018, 11:07:34 AM
Holy cr*pthe very best of luck with that birds nest. :o


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 05, 2018, 12:16:59 PM
hope to disect the engine loom out of it,
straight forward really as each wire has a plug on the end which will only plug into one place.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 05, 2018, 05:43:55 PM
You're flying along Chris! Good progress.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 05, 2018, 07:14:47 PM
thanks Andy.

still long way to go.

got the body mounts done on n/s, got to chop out and alter part of front floor frame as its nearly sitting on top of catalytic converter.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144528.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144529.jpg)

started cutting floor panels, amazingly both sides are the same size!!! lol

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144530.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144531.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144641.jpg)

started mocking up seat, steering pedals etc.  notes on pad are dimensions from my daily civic, so should be a comfortable seating position. the seat is only for mock up.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144642.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144644.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144645.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144831.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144832.jpg)

last night i drew out an idea for rear windows, don't know really if i like this, also might have exhaust up the middle.

will need input on this i think.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144833.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144834.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144835.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 06, 2018, 08:06:50 AM
Ooh, that'd be loud!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 06, 2018, 08:15:05 AM
not really with all existing silencers in place.  someone mentioned putting it out the bonnet!!!! thats a no due to noise and having to keep the cat.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 06, 2018, 05:40:17 PM
a big ole appeared!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180906/b_132502.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180906/b_132503.jpg)

to be filled with this.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180906/b_132505.jpg)

said item in hole.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180906/b_132506.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180906/b_132507.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180906/b_132508.jpg)

problems to sort, but all of that is stock frontera.




Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: stinkey on September 06, 2018, 06:05:15 PM
At this rate..soon be done


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 06, 2018, 09:55:15 PM
Now I'm confused -is that the brake servo or power steering?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 06, 2018, 10:16:10 PM
brake servo Andy, thats how its mounted in frontera, tried to keep it as is.
pedal is mounted in black metal part, where rusty bolt is on pic with it on seat.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 06, 2018, 10:25:12 PM
(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos6000/photos/1101204/20170411/r90_x_190658.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 07, 2018, 05:22:41 AM
Aah.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 09, 2018, 11:11:55 PM
not much done over past few days,

but i've got pedals!!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180909/b_190531.jpg)

mount for brake servo(part of pedal mount)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180909/b_190532.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180909/b_190533.jpg)

and steering wheel!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180909/b_190535.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 10, 2018, 08:23:13 AM
That's a step forward.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 10, 2018, 01:08:16 PM
We have doors!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180910/b_090634.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180910/b_090635.jpg)


Total pick up body cost less than £400(so far), which I think is good looking at prices today.(That includes all delivery charges!!!)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 10, 2018, 03:37:47 PM
Better condition than my Pop doors. Nice.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 10, 2018, 04:08:51 PM
 aluminium  ;D

not so good though to repair, modify etc :o


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 13, 2018, 11:33:13 AM
back on it.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 13, 2018, 05:34:16 PM
Not a lot to show for a days work, but steering column can be removed from inside, got to mount clutch master yet.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180913/b_132939.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180913/b_132941.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180913/b_132942.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180913/b_132943.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 13, 2018, 09:23:02 PM
You're certainly cracking on Chris! :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 14, 2018, 01:22:16 PM
yep, need to get a new welding mask(only got handheld) as had arc eye since 2am.
glad my shift was only 5hrs this morning.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 14, 2018, 03:18:16 PM
had to pick daughter up so grabbed this on the way.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180914/b_111640.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 14, 2018, 07:53:17 PM
Feels horrible doesn't it.
A wise investment


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 15, 2018, 06:56:22 PM
tried passenger door in hole today, oh my days, square peg and round hole springs to mind. :-\


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 15, 2018, 07:43:28 PM
:) I've got to do that yet, but mine have to fit a fully painted body!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 15, 2018, 08:33:46 PM
also had to have another go at steering column position due to a problem that would bug me but no one else would know about,


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 16, 2018, 08:49:23 AM
?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 16, 2018, 10:24:53 AM
wheel on the p*ss ::), not by much but enough,1/2" maybe.
having to alter mount inside car. not much work but still a pain.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 16, 2018, 11:14:19 AM
The Pop one's offset slightly, but if it wasn't I wouldn't be able to get my hand between the wheel & the door.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 16, 2018, 11:49:43 AM
gaining the 1/2" has moved wheel about 2" away from door!!!!
but a bit more room in p4 cabin as it could seat 3 upfront!!!! 


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 16, 2018, 05:03:48 PM
:)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: stinkey on September 16, 2018, 06:18:29 PM
Most steering columns are offset methinks  ;D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 20, 2018, 06:29:03 PM
clutch and brake master mounts finished.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180920/b_142659.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180920/b_142700.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 20, 2018, 07:51:02 PM
:)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 21, 2018, 03:23:48 PM
We have a working clutch and brake, steering that turns the wheels and key!!!(no not had it running  lol)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180921/b_112202.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180921/b_112204.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 21, 2018, 08:25:39 PM
I wish mine was moving along as fast as yours!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: stinkey on September 22, 2018, 02:13:39 PM
That's a very clear photo ?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 22, 2018, 09:18:55 PM
That's a very clear photo ?
Only phone camera.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 24, 2018, 07:16:51 PM
i've decided on what front end to use, going to be very marmite, infact more against than for it!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 24, 2018, 07:18:31 PM
Rover P4? :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 24, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
no, fully fendered though. will shock a lot of people.
but most will say why?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on September 24, 2018, 08:05:15 PM
It's always good to shock people  :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: the coppersmith on September 25, 2018, 01:20:05 PM
most will say why? better then WTF though  ;D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on September 25, 2018, 05:37:08 PM
both i reckon!!!! lol


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 12, 2018, 07:25:17 AM
this is the last p4 body work part to buy,

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181012/b_031710.jpg)

Aluminium bonnet to match the doors, also wings, etc.(but thats getting ahead of things)



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 12, 2018, 07:26:25 AM
this is also week 2 off work with a torn muscle in my shoulder. doc's at 10am this morning.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 12, 2018, 11:11:11 AM
Ouch!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 12, 2018, 01:07:54 PM
signed off till 28th, apparently its not me shoulder but me neck, got to have physio, doc told me i have to take it easy and must look after myself. might have to look for a less physical job  :(


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 12, 2018, 03:43:03 PM
I know that feeling.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 12, 2018, 05:17:32 PM
25yrs lifting stuff i should'nt has done me no good.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 12, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
32 years of carrying Mail bags plus 4 of working on building sites :(


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 12, 2018, 06:43:52 PM
if people did'nt know i'm looking for land rover series wings, grill panel plus front lower and swb rear tub.
plus 2 front bumpers. any condition.

i said people are going to go WTF!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181012/x_144233.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 13, 2018, 09:22:41 AM
Nah, it kinda makes sense. They're very simple bolt together panels, but not very curvy. Loony's got Flap's old Landy, (series 3 maybe?), but I've never looked in the engine bay -is there some sort of framework to support the panels or are they self supporting?
There's a big Landover show somewhere in the Midlands isn't there? If all else fails, you must be able to buy repro parts.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 13, 2018, 04:53:46 PM
new panels are easily purchased, which i think could be the way to go.

paddock spares one of the biggest companies.

https://www.paddockspares.com/


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: spanners on October 13, 2018, 09:17:53 PM
new panels are easily purchased, which i think could be the way to go.

paddock spares one of the biggest companies.

https://www.paddockspares.com/
I,v been buying of paddocks since I wasv14 years old and the top woman is supposed to have retired but she still knows what go,s on ,,good old ,glyne,s,


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Olds on October 13, 2018, 10:01:00 PM
I can see it. Transition tween front of doors and wing might take some work. Remember that original series Land rover panels aren't aluminium  but Birmabright BB2 or BB3, an alloy of aluminium, manganese and magnesium. So take more care to anneal before trying to reshape anything as it work hardens really easily.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 13, 2018, 10:25:10 PM
had a series 3  a lot of years ago, that was bad enough doing body and respray.

ignore bull bar, was the "in thing" 25 ish years ago!!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180622/r270_b_194943.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180622/r90_b_195219.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 14, 2018, 05:57:37 PM
Visited my Mum in Christchurch, Dorset today. This was in the next street.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 14, 2018, 05:58:02 PM
.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 14, 2018, 06:30:23 PM
very nice.

ordered l/r series hinges and fixings for doors.

figured it would be easier than trying to find p4 parts.

(https://www.paddockspares.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/x/mxc8282_1.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: spanners on October 14, 2018, 09:31:50 PM
very nice.

ordered l/r series hinges and fixings for doors.

figured it would be easier than trying to find p4 parts.

(https://www.paddockspares.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/x/mxc8282_1.jpg)
Did you order the top hinges with mirror mounts ??


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 15, 2018, 07:36:10 AM
very nice.

ordered l/r series hinges and fixings for doors.

figured it would be easier than trying to find p4 parts.

(https://www.paddockspares.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/x/mxc8282_1.jpg)
Did you order the top hinges with mirror mounts ??

no mike, going to mount these on the doors.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181015/b_083335.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Olds on October 15, 2018, 10:57:34 AM
Hmm. This should be interesting.
 I assume you are going to make a steel frame to mount the hinges on, in lieu of the LR bulkhead.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 15, 2018, 02:21:34 PM
yes, going to be welded on outside of a-pillar, between door and wing.



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 15, 2018, 02:31:17 PM
a big parcel arrived today, so glad mrs poprodder was here as i could'nt manage it.

the outside was covered in shrink wrap and parecel tape.

then under that was a little cardboard.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181015/r90_x_151258.jpg)

which then had foam under that, along with a roll of parcel tape!!! lol

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181015/r90_x_151350.jpg)

once removed revealed this!!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181015/r90_x_151359.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 15, 2018, 05:35:49 PM
:) I could see flat topped Landover wings working with that.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Olds on October 15, 2018, 06:39:16 PM
Me too. The tops of P4 wings are quite flat front to back. It's the front/sides that have all the curves. Think a 90/110 grill and front panel might be easier to mate to the bonnet but wouldn't be quite so distinctive.

That was a lot of packaging for a box of light bulbs.  :D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 15, 2018, 07:09:55 PM
sorry about dogs arse!!! lol


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 15, 2018, 07:52:29 PM
Sorted with wings.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 15, 2018, 08:39:11 PM
(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181015/b_163658.jpg) (https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181015/b_163659.jpg)



Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 16, 2018, 09:42:35 AM
short road trip tomorrow with the boy to sudbury to pick up.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 17, 2018, 04:51:51 PM
Collected wings today, crap journey, rain there and back.
Wings look ok,  had a measure and everything looks like it will fit with a bit of fettling
What's legality of 3 head lights? Middle one for main beam only.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Olds on October 17, 2018, 06:43:50 PM
Nope, as far as I know you can't do a central main beam.  But....The P4 Rover Cyclops (up to 52) had a spotlight mounted centrally in the grill and there doesn't seem to be anything in the modern IVA manual with reference to front spotlights so you might be OK, as long as it's switched with warning lamp and can only work with main beam.  


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 17, 2018, 07:02:37 PM
cheers, spot light it will be then.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 17, 2018, 08:27:00 PM
just sat on corner, not looking too far out.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181017/x_195804.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181017/x_195757.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181017/x_162329.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 20, 2018, 05:17:27 PM
lots of work to do but its going to work.

lots will not like it, but thats tough.

front of wing will be max 10" from ground, front bumper will sit lower.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181020/r180_x_143651.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181020/r90_x_143749.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181020/r180_x_143658.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181020/r90_x_143726.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181020/r90_x_143713.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 26, 2018, 04:54:50 PM
oh dear, i do apologise but i've been sidetracked by selling my daily and buying something a little older to use!!!
yes i should know better, but.........oh sod it heres a pic. bit young to be on here as a project.(which its not, its a daily!!!)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181026/b_085841.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181026/b_085843.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181026/b_090022.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181026/b_090232.jpg)

but i have made a decision on paint colour!!!! yes i know that don't help.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 26, 2018, 06:43:40 PM
Another?!!
You change cars more times than I change socks! :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 26, 2018, 07:27:10 PM
other one needed £900 in parts alone for flywheel and clutch!!!!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on October 26, 2018, 08:01:59 PM
:) The Post Office depot I work at has just scrapped several vans. They were 10 years old & needed over £1000 worth of work to pass the MOT, but were only valued at £600.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 26, 2018, 09:08:30 PM
years ago i'dhave bought the parts and done it, not now.
it slipped very slightly in 6th gear at erm........the legal limit ;)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Olds on October 26, 2018, 09:21:50 PM
By eck he's bought a Ronda or is it a Hover.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on October 27, 2018, 08:50:46 AM
hope i have better luck than last one i had!!!!

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181027/b_044950.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 03, 2018, 04:43:18 PM
right back onto the proper project.

bonnet bolted to hinges after freeing them off.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181103/b_123232.jpg)

with door in the hole, started trimming wings and its not going to take too much work to look half decent.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181103/b_123229.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181103/b_123057.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181103/b_123055.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181103/b_123059.jpg)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181103/b_123226.jpg)

wheel to be changed.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 03, 2018, 04:50:11 PM
Please take that horrible bit of chequer plate off!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 03, 2018, 04:59:13 PM
yes thats going!!!! lol


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 03, 2018, 05:01:43 PM
grill on the way, another piece that will be, wtf?

to be chopped and changed.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 05, 2018, 08:33:40 PM
well this is type of grill on the way, bought for £8, but then i'm cutting it up a little!!!

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SfUAAOSwcSFbNlZM/s-l640.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 05, 2018, 09:06:31 PM
Is that the later plastic type?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 06, 2018, 01:25:31 PM
yes, series 3.

will look a little different once 2/3 of it is cut away.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 06, 2018, 01:57:05 PM
Apparently when LandRover changed from metal to plastic, the Aussie market complained cos they used to take them off & use them as BBQ racks! :)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 06, 2018, 07:32:25 PM
 going to need a name for it. wings, doors, bonnet and rear tub will be raw aluminium, cab will be purple. rover p4 cab & bonnet. with the rest being series land rover parts.

just reached my free limit on photo hosting site........bugger.


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 06, 2018, 07:45:29 PM
Removed chequer  plate from wing top, bit rough under but no bigy.
wing sitting in better position now, will sit about 3 inches lower than on tape, with bumper sitting lower.
looks like panels will clean up ok. sorry for lots of pics.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be1ed310a468.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be1ed30c217a.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be1ed307a3df.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be1ed38aaed6.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be1ed3668a48.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be1ed3668a48.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be1ed37e9d5f.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be1eed0389c3.jpg)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: BikerGran on November 06, 2018, 07:58:01 PM
I really can't imagine what's in your mind for the finished look - I guess that's why you keep posting pics of little bits of, to keep us guessing! - It works!


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 06, 2018, 10:10:18 PM
I think I'd just run a couple of horizontal slats across the rad opening -nothing too complicated, & my vote would be for a single colour on the lot -but that's why it's your build & not mine :)
"Junkyard Dog" surely, as it's made from a mixture of Rover parts?


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 07, 2018, 04:35:38 AM
if i painted it black, it would be "the black dog"


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 07, 2018, 10:44:49 AM
:)


Title: Re: rebodied hotrod
Post by: poprodder on November 08, 2018, 07:25:50 AM
"Crazy Mongrel"


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: poprodder on November 08, 2018, 07:48:54 PM
Series 3 grill, which will have 2/3rds removed,
and bottom off bonnet shut line will be folded upwards so bonnet sits flat on wings.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be4920b60b46.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be4920b8cbd2.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be4920bcc8b5.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be4920dc68b9.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be4920e03a57.jpg)


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 08, 2018, 08:26:21 PM
Morris Minor type horizontal slat grille :)


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 08, 2018, 09:40:13 PM
Reminds me of early Ford trucks.


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: poprodder on November 09, 2018, 03:30:46 PM
started on the a-post for hinge mounts. no pics but going to be fiddly but doable.


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: poprodder on November 10, 2018, 06:43:30 PM
problems!!!!! hinges i cannot use as i think they look crap.
and the wheels i was going to use stick out of arches too much, bum holes.


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: spanners on November 10, 2018, 07:25:53 PM
problems!!!!! hinges i cannot use as i think they look crap.
and the wheels i was going to use stick out of arches too much, bum holes.

pm on way


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: stinkey on November 10, 2018, 09:15:36 PM
Surely no problem to widen the wings ?


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: Olds on November 10, 2018, 10:46:01 PM
90/110/Defender arches perhaps.


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: poprodder on November 11, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
i was thinking the same thing, only prefer alloy ones, more like a jdm style.


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: poprodder on November 11, 2018, 05:01:26 PM
had another look today in daylight with a clear head, not so bad, can get them to sit parallel fairly easily.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be85d2a76b0e.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be85d6fb4e11.jpg)

this is the wheels i was going to use, frontera alloys i was planning to spray matt black.
thinking the 15" modular steels will look better or l200 steel wheels.
 
also wing needs to be moved back by a few inches.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be85d6ec7cfd.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be85d7079fdc.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be85d6caba47.jpg)

L200 wheels.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be861999240a.jpg)



Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: poprodder on November 19, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
not  much happened, did poke me head into garage today and yes its still there  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: BikerGran on November 19, 2018, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: poprodder link=topic=14835.msg237932#msg237932 date=154195568

L200 wheels.

[img width=600 height=450
http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55be861999240a.jpg[/img]



They're the ones - love 'em!


Title: Re: "Crazy Mongrel"
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 20, 2018, 05:44:52 PM
:) Those steels should look O.K shouldn't they. Chrome hubcaps?


Title: Re: "Old Dorg"
Post by: poprodder on April 04, 2019, 06:29:39 PM
 :-[ :-[ :-[

still here, got some mad ideas.


Title: Re: "Old Dorg"
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 05, 2019, 12:22:44 AM
Let's do it! :)


Title: Re: "Old Dorg"
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2019, 01:23:04 PM
trying to work out the wiring on this, c20ne, engine loom seperate, just need live feeds etc to it.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/56811325_1573872909430552_2563960398990540800_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_eui2=AeFx4BEKVQmnoGMuYuXYFe9vrag7QhLucC6XBHcXceWfmBUBVbMN--NNpl5ahL6BppouXElfkEIlW3-s7Z6gPdDAg7yEAOrtDWXqN_cuzfIY4w&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=6738d46b0b3db48be7856bd6c05774ec&oe=5D4330E8)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/56182369_1573873002763876_3325861728712916992_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_eui2=AeF0SVTgnSTiDmsbB5xuf2N730onxTjNGUAcXfxO_pDmkQm8sE1PzuxBPre9GFzaVSrjSiVNGxb7eqZad8yIF_nZL_ES7zOFwXQSqHGIQRAZJw&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=b73bce3ffc6419ec835ade46bed64265&oe=5D384EC9)


Title: Re: "Old Dorg"
Post by: poprodder on April 05, 2019, 01:39:32 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/56440236_1575952625889247_6791318291206897664_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_eui2=AeGi1vpRk0RzicsCe7ilLCOi8NHRLrzqbU0ZAi2wZVqL-4CT3qtv8iuMaAgjU9pndnrHLRZa4-E0ba65UTs77fl2pPYcurCvZOdBdytGXq-yrA&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=d0bd14cad094e6ff8f67192c5456e2b7&oe=5D38B627)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/56386445_1575952762555900_4921719538359205888_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_eui2=AeE6h96KcIurt3Hm4_sbixjvYRf4xySDX9POttdrRT4qHlR7MrLvbLnCWTeFpVQg7jbZNqbAeRUn3giNwspveBKXdN11JXsYz9QJU2_srf7DBw&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=2a2a5cea1bc8e241c6bf3283b44ee8d5&oe=5D4A6FF1)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/56899668_1575952875889222_6312888157389979648_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_eui2=AeG6DTBIALXmSbghROcbC0bwEJu_ozfAqpqcESrGyxtpjH45-sWtlEFyt6Zf4HKqHrnHnsyQxO6kuVA62eancvfqZkApy-CO9hriTXM0z5NN2A&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=8953a1b676046aae136faef270c3f517&oe=5D4E5BBE)


Title: Re: "Old Dorg"
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 05, 2019, 03:12:52 PM
Utterly beyond me!


Title: Re: "Old Dorg"
Post by: poprodder on May 13, 2019, 09:01:02 PM
the way she looks at moment.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60073918_1645499798934529_4334951027754139648_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=a8e94889257b53feeae91c2cff6feebb&oe=5D5BF4E2)


Title: Re: "Old Dorg"
Post by: Manky Monkey on May 14, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
I've got one that looks just like that!