Manky Monkey Motors

 :o

Ooooh! I'm interested already.  :)

would love to fit dual wheels at the rear.

been offered free engine and box  ;D

Wow, that's a result!

just got to sort logistics to pick it up. its north of birmingham.

strange considering rolling chassis is coming from south birmingham tomorrow!!!!

 :D

ohhhh do it !! 8)

trying to find out if theres a 2wd gearbox that fits the 2.25 petrol engine.

they arn't permenent 4wd so i'de leave it but a transit engine and box maybe and also twin wheel back axle. im pictureing some thing from mad max!

oh or something from these guys  http://www.welderup.com/ (http://www.welderup.com/)

i might go for a homemade body. :o

British truck cab? Cheaper than American if you can a decent one. Scottie the hotrod haulier's building a Bedford J series with shortened bed.
One of these.

chassis delivered today, in far better condition than expected.

repair needed on n/s chassis rail on inside and bottom. think it'll be a tad easier to repair than the 2cv!!!

heres a few pics, battery was placed on there to show some progress!!!!  lol

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room for lowering?

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repairs needed on n/s chassis rail inside and underneath.

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not bad at all mine needs much the same but on the rh rail at the spring hanger but i want to save it if i can as it's original

Looks alright. Please, please keep this one!

Yes dad!!! Lol

started stripping springs and shocks off chassis so i can turn it over to repair.
no pics yet, no progress now until tomorrow afternoon as wedding anniversary today so got to be a good boy tonight!!!!

i spent some of the afternoon(after work) dismantling the chassis.

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axles and springs!!!!


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and chassis, seperated. its a heavy old bugger to move on ya own!!!!


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little bit of chassis rot!!!!


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and more!!!


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hole near rear spring hanger.


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and the only other bit i could find.


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steel ready to start repairs.


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got a free wheeling hub on one side.


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and this on other!!!!! got a replacement on the way, think i might need to renew bearings as well!!!!!

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a bit of rust.

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hole!!!

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clean inside.

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not pretty but does the job.

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just a small repair on other side then one near rear shackle mount.

There seems to be a mysterious magnetic attraction between you and rust!

 ;D

soon be gone, just doing the rear spring hanger at the moment.
then clean and paint, turn over weld other side, clean then paint etc.
soon be back on its wheels.

All looks a bit more do-able than the Citroen anyway.

sure is andy.

bit more progress, this is not a mega money build, so after welding(forgot pics of rear spring hanger repair, but it got ratrher involved!!!) i started cleaning chassis up, and out came paint and brush. had 2 tins on the shelf so thought why not.

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Nice colour!

i thought so, hope i've enough as had tins on shelf for a few years!!! hammerite smooth aubergine.
don't know if they still do the colour.

just got an original steering column and mount, just to find a front bulkhead and seat base.

more cleaning and painting done, (mrs at work so won't get a bollocking for stinking house out lol!!!!)

found out that hammerite don't do the colour now!!!

Yeah that figures! Maybe do it in black Hammerite, then blow a couple of coats of something more colourful over the top afterwards?

might get some stone chip black, never going to be a show queen!!!!!! that purple is rather shocking!!!!!

Isn't that the point? Be different.

got the chassis turned over, cleaned up area to be welded, found another bad repair near rear so cleaned that off.
welded 75% of that then ran outa wire!!! bumhats.

the ,boys, gone mad ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,TOTALLY MAD  ::) ::) ::) ::)

found a pic of the rough look i'm going for.

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also welding repairs finished on chassis.
got to clean and paint axles, springs etc and fit new bushe,s to get back to a rolling chassis.

Have you got a body for it then Chris?

chris  send v8jimmy a pm  on the other channel  he had a cab but dont think it had doors ,, but do you really need em   :D :D :D

back on its wheels, been working out body dimensions. not going to be to bad.

Suppose I had better get the ball rolling on the paperwork!!! i hate paperwork.

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 Hmm may be a few gaps in the report at the moment. Most folk would get to the rolling chassis with engine stage, before starting that Chris, or have you been a busy boy and not told us. ;) ;D

thought i'd make a start on it, rather than leave everything until last.

got the v5c back, found chassis number on chassis. everything matches.

That's a good start. All looking good so far.  :)

oops...............just ordered more steel!!!! ;D

Nearly finished then!  :)

 :D  yep  ;D

steering box/column mounted.

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and some parts for doors!!!!! 

chrome handles have been on shelf for 10yrs plus. hinges and latches are cheap budget items. no mega bling stuff here!!!!!  lol

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I LIKE the hinges, where were they sourced Europa ?

hi kev, no off ebay, £9 a pair. user name kitcar.crazy

a little cheaper than europa.

cheers chris.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221762417616?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

i believe same as shaun used on his pop.

Look like moggy traveller rear hinges, but with those there is a slight angular difference between top and bottom though.
£9 a pair, is a good price.

They look very much like the door hinges on my old landrover 90 I used to have. And those larger catches definitely look like landrover bits.

Somewhere I should have layout drawings for fitting a Morris 1000 body on a series III chassis. Though God knows where they are now, as they were done in the early 80s.
I know where the chassis drawings are (I think  :-\) but can't recall if it was a SWB or a cut down LWB. 

Kev, I've got 4 of those hinges in my spares box if you want them. Also fitted to Mini van & Morris Minor van rear doors. They have a brass ball fitting in the middle so you can fit them against angled surfaces.

They used to make an ascending pitch "creeaaak" noise when opened if I recall

question for Mr Rooney,

can i chop the battery stand/holder off?

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i'm guessing no as its welded to the chassis.

YES PLEASE Andy :)

Kev will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand things, you can remove non structural items such as body mount brackets, fuel tank mounts etc. and in this case the battery mounting. Just make sure that anything you remove is not also acting as bracing between structural members.
On a Landy chassis this is fairly easy to see but on modern unitary construction, working out what is structural or not can be difficult.

Kev, I'll dig them out from the lock-up garage in the next couple of days & get them down to you.

It's a bit of a minefield to be honest. From speaking with Tech at VOSA ( DSVA now ) they really expect anything shown on a factory chassis diagram to remain there BUT will allow removal of small body mounts , fuel tank supports depend on how big what and where they are. The small brackets on the back of a Herald chassis , and also on Realiant Scimitar that servo no purpose other than tank supports can definitely NOT be removed whilst undergoing the rebodying process. Unitary / Monococque items tend to be much more clearcut .For instance you CAN'T remove an engine mount from the body and they would expect you to make an adaption between block and monococque.

cheers kev, it will stay then, but battery relocated.

thanks chris.

Envious of the speed some of these things come together,must have a lot of spare time.

Everything has to go through IVA on the built from new chassis cab Coachbuilt side nowadays. You can do mods to already built stuff on a chassis cab like say remove a horsebox and put on a pick up body using the rebody rules providing no chassis mods. Even after an almost 5 year lead in would you believe their are Coachbuilding comapnies who still hadn't heard that they needed to comply ? Amazes me how many specialist body / chassis builders simply don't keep up with legislation that would stop their business dead?

I recently got involved with one specialist lorry that needed to comply but couldn't that was over £250,000 worth!

holy s**t!!!! head in sand syndrome?

i've not done alot realy, just bolt on stuff. body will take longer, just had email saying only half order for steel sent out, grrrrrr......

as the steel did'nt turn up today for the body, thought i would start on the front wheels.

started with a wheel.

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which ended up with this bit that i don't need.

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and this bit that i do.

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glad i've only got front two to do!!!!

Hmm, interesting.
Are you building your own body for this ?

Kev, hinges sorted out. I'll get them in the post to you on Friday.  ;)

Chris, were they rivetted together or did you drill though the spotwelds ?

rivetted kev, used 5/8 hole saw without bit in middle.

new rims are were spotwelded.

yes. but will not be  as classy as yours!!!!!

Not sure I'd call it classy. It doesn't even have doors, or for that matter, much of anything.
Spend plenty of time at the planning stage and it will save a lot of time and effort later on.

i've never taken so many measurements!!!!! still waiting on engine/box.

fedex, what a total bunch of useless, lieing c...s!!!!

narrow 15" rim.

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all welded, needs cleaning painting. then crossply tyres mounting.

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steel arrived this afternoon for body frame work.  ;D

 :o don't expect much as the mrs is home from 1st week of a 4 week course away tomorrow evening so i'll be dust fairy when i've finished work tomorrow.  ::)

Wheels spinning nice & true Chris? Don't think I could trust my measuring/welding skills to get it spot on.  :)

at most 1mm runout which i've been told is ok.

So that explains how you've managed to crack on a bit this week. Surprising the amount you can get done when you're left in peace and quiet :)

 ;D

started on the body this afternoon, blimey its eating some steel!!!
swallowed up over 12metres just doing part of sides!!!!

no pics yet as nothing worth showing yet.

You're not building a tank are you?

Or maybe something like this

Yep, if you don't make a cutting list, then it comes as a bit of a surprise (or shock) just how much material is required.
Will this be skinned in steel or aluminium?

Skinned in steel.

right, no one laugh. this is how far i've got with the body. first time at doing this.
got one door outer frame in hole, need to get more steel for other side.
got the cowl and front bulk head to start yet, which i think will change the looks making it not seem so wide.

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steering column/box will need dropping a couple of inches.

You have got a lot done on this ! :o  :)
Hope you remembered skinning allowance and swing gap around the doors.

Something like this Chris?

yes andy.

I admire your courage in going with a hard top, for your first body build Chris.

The A's and T of that period are probably the 'easiest 'to reproduce as they were actually built in small pieces at the factory as initially they didn't have the big presses. Hence why early cars have big fabric roof inserts ;)  Looking good Chris :)

cheers kev, its certainly a learning curve.

short video of some prat doing something!!!!!  :-[ :-[ :-[

https://www.facebook.com/chrisdralph/videos/vb.100004235734054/503698759781311/?type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed

 ;D

just ordered more steel. thats about 20metres gone, with another 12 on way!!!

not even thought about steel sheet yet!!!!

may need advice on thickness. must be in mm as cannot understand them old fashioned numbers for sheet thickness!!! lol

Standard body steel from a motor factors is 0.9 mm, I use this and 1.1/2 ish for more structural areas and floors.

thanks.  so 1mm will be ok on body as nearly all flat. floor will be anything thats going cheap!!!! lol

Yeah, I'd go with the slightly thicker stuff if it's mostly flat or large curves. Floor doesn't have to be that thick if it's got enough bracing under it or some stiffening beads or ribs rolled/pressed/bashed into it.

In my 27T 'somewhere' is 120 feet of 3mm wall 1" x  1" tube!!  Takes 4 people to lift the grp body , I think i may have over engineered it a bit ?

Just a bit ! :D

For floor panels you could consider marine ply (WBP)

proper marine ply is bs1088.  used thousands of sheets in my time.

Used exterior grade ply on mine, as it's going to be fully sealed anyway, and it was a lot cheaper (already had it  :D )

ordered 6sq m of sheet steel to start with.
thats me skint!!!!

whilst waiting for steel to arrive thought i would drill the other front wheels to part centres from rims, one burnt out drill later there both apart!!!

finished welding up the last front wheel for the ratrod tonight, gloves on, picked it up to put on floor.................ouch thats fuc... hot!!!!   i drops it then BANG!!!! chopped power lead in two!!!! doh.

So, going well so far then.

yeah, just waiting for third thing today!!!! 

shower and bed. ?

;D ;D ;D
Time to call it a night perhaps (before you break something else)  :D

i did strip the teeth of a hole saw earlier yesterday, so it was 3 things!!!!

not got a lot done lately, got two panels on rear of cab, plenty more strengthening pieces to be fitted. will look similar to a ford model A cab rear. but higher and slightly bigger window.

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I take it the sheet steel has arrived. :)

mocking up ideas for cowl shape.

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done a bit more tonight.

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done a bit more this afternoon, challenging and very time consuming, other side to do tomorrow.

done with welder,grinder and couple of hammers.

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thats progressing well, I can see what your aiming at, well done

looks good Chris ,i can imagine it being a pain to get that curve

Keep at it mate -looking good!

Coming along nicely. :)

Looking good mate.If only I still had your enthusiasm and motivation!

Know what you mean, Rod, but I generally have no lack of "mojo" early on in a project, its towards the end that It sets in with me! and judging by the number of "almost" finished projects that seem forever to be for sale, I suspect its a common malaise ;D ;D ;D ;D..Morrag

 not much done today, work, time with the mrs before she departs for another week away. i've bent metal for other curve of cowl. back on it tomorrow afternoon.

no updates tonight, apart from weld, weld weld.

and putting frame work for cowl on 1" higher than other side ................doh  ::)

2 days off now so could be a little bit of progress ;D

 ;D It's not just me that does stuff like that then!

i struggled to get it to line up, then stood back when i had finished an thought that looks a bit on the pee!!!! it was just a little!!!
school run, then back on it.

At least you noticed before trying to skin it. :)

more progress, skinned other side of cowl.

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also planning where rear window will sit.

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and my new favourite tool(?) to use.

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That cowl makes a basic metal box into something surprisingly car-like doesn't it!
Now you need to explain the copper to the non welders.  ;)

thank you andy, its not the same shape each side but i guess thats what you get with doing it in ya garage with a handfull of tools.

the flattened copper pipe is used when welding. you put it behind a butt joint/gap in steel on the sheet steel, it then stops the weld burning through but does not stick to copper. end result is holes filled in. it does get mighty hot though so a wooden handle is good.

Helps if you make both sides of the frame at the same time. Doesn't look too far out though.

guess its us builders who will know the faults are there!!!

There's nothing symmetrical from one side of my Pop to the other, but it left the factory like that.

this mornings progress, evrything just tacked in at moment.

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bit more progress this afternoon.

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put infill in above door but ended a little bit wavy!!!!!!

and ignore the s**t welding!!!

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Is good to see it taking shape as the build progresses ........ keep going sir :)     I should be working on my project instead of sitting here with a beer, watching you, but cant get the enthusiasm at the moment ::) 

i'm lucky that i get 2 days off a week, plus i work 6am till maybe 1pm then have afternoon to do as i wish.
and i don't drink.

Try folding the panel top edges before welding them in place.

good idea, but was'nt heat that warped it, me cutting with snips!!! yes all sheet cut by hand.

think i'm sorted with an engine. ;D

turbo and auto!!!

Bulk buy thin cutting disks. You are going to need them !
 

So... what's the engine Chris?

one of these.

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I have no idea what that is.

toyota 2.4 turbo diesel.

just been sent video of engine running. all good.

looks like i will have to put my electrical head on as even the gearbox is ecu controlled, but some have said it only tells you your speed.

Ooh, scary black magic stuff.

no engine yet, but bought some more steel sheet, for roof, and thicker sheet for doors as they'll sit over bodywork like model a fords.(no door gaps to fiddle with!!!)

just had delivery of some steel, oops thats bigger than i expected.

going to be used as belt line along doors(from handle) around back to other side.

don't know if it will look to chunky? its ...kin heavy!!! the doors will shut with a clunk!!!

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That section looks very much like what they use for handrails. Sure is heavy stuff

advertised as 40mm x 6mm. was very disapointed when it arrived. 40mm x 12mm!!!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271174767249?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&var=570148026301&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Get them to take it back (as long as you haven't cut it up ). They may just refund the money rather than send a courier.

i've already sent them a message, and no not cut it up.

I actually don't think it looks bad -you've got a lot of very flat bodywork & it'd help to break it up a bit. Once it's painted body colour it won't stand out so much.
Have you tried clamping a length along the door or across the back & standing back to see how it looks? Can we see how it looks? I drilled the body panels on my Pop & welded the swage-line rod from the back to keep it tidy. Think mine's about 12mm wide, but that was to match the original Pop lines, (mine's actually made from lengths of curved profile bar from a set of French window locks, supplied by forum member Afghan Man, from his French farmhouse).

i've just ordered some different(very different :D ) and smaller steel. got a use for the current stuff.

this is what i've ordered, 20x6mm  ;D

(http://www.ironfinials.co.uk/images/DECORATIVE_BAR/decorative_bar_B.jpg)  

Hammered edge bar. Should be a third of the weight of the convex square edge you have. Unusual too.

looks like i'm going to have more bar than i know what to do with, as i'm being sent a smaller replacement!!!!

also got pair of these today, saves me making something up.(£8 pair delivered)

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Erm... door latch striker plate?

yes, landrover ones!!!!

got some welding done today!!!! fighting for space at moment as got 2 sheets of steel, one for roof. and a thicker sheet for door skins, front bulkhead and floor.

need to clear up though as engine/box + whatever else is needed to run it will arrive next week.

oh and i sort of bought this.

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gonna hear the turbo whistle with that  ;D

 :D
What thickness steel are you using Chris ?

0.9 for roof, and 1.5 for doors, they'll overlap like ford model A.   but they are straight with no curves.

spoke to the guy selling engine and box last night(cool laid back great guy off britchopper forum) he has removed everything i will need, delivery will be next week sometime.
but and this is a big but. i don't think i want the engine etc. i've said yes to it and i'm not the type of person to go back on my word, but reading up on them i think something more simple would be better.  i'll wait for it to be delivered then make my mind up. :-\ 

Good idea.

Funnily enough, a land rover engine might fit.  ;)

Rover V8.

Would be perfect. I've had three V8 110's and if the engine is not restricted, they can be surprisingly quick.

right guys i need some advice.

i was going for crossplys, but also got ideas for big chunky 4x4 tyres rear with smaller but still chunky for front.

there is also third option of putting van tyres on.

 ???  :-\  ::)

I've got skinny crossplies all round on the Pop, mainly for the vintage look. They're fine as long as you know their limitations -not much grip so longer braking distances, more careful cornering & no high speed motorway driving in the rain.

Agreed. In the 70s, I ran crossplys on a pinto engined,  Mk1 Cortina. Highly entertaining on wet roundabouts.
You really have to decide what you want the vehicle to look like as well as it's usage. Unless you have got to the wings stage, I would concentrate on getting the body finished, before laying out cash on tyres, so you have more of an idea of the overall look.

rolled outside for first time, rear bed will be steel not wood!!!!!

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Very intriguing build you've got going here sir,..have you any idea how your going to do the front end or will you leave it exposed in some way ? I think keep skinnies on the front but not crossplys ?

Nice to be able to stand back & have a good look at it Chris.
Love the scuttle/cowl -could you maybe radius some of the other corners in the same way to make it a little less boxy? (the back corners of the cab, gutter rails & perhaps add a curved sill panel under the doors?)

thanks everyone. i actualy prefer the boxy look.

engine and gearbox arrived this afternoon.

sitting just a tad high at the mo!!!

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Wow, that's a lump an half :o  should be a giggle getting it all in the right place. Great stuff.

Lots of pipes and wires to have hours of fun with !

Sheesh! I don't even know what half of those do!

some connect to the ecu i've got.

just to find out how to remove the transfer box to run 2wd.

decided to sell engine and box.

? Going for something simpler Chris?

yes, landrover hopefully.

Makes complete sense.

engine sold. paid for and collected. thats 95% of me money back ;D

just to sell gearbox and parts.

liking the look of that mate..

a little progress,

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bit of primer to protect it.

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 :)

Looks like you've been busy with the angle grinder as well Chris. Any luck with an engine ?

yes been busy with welder and grinder. no luck on engine yet(got eye on one local  ;)  )

A bit late for the areas that you've already done, but you can save time and effort by welding on the insde where it won't be seen. Much less dressing of the seen surfaces.

theres only about an hours work there.

no progress, but could be picking an engine up in next couple of days.

picked engine up this afternoon, picks to follow. :D

went and picked the engine that will be in it for a while, landrover 2.5na diesel, not the quickest but needs must.

80mile round trip with it in back of an astra was a bit of an experiance.

me and the boy managed to get it in the engine bay tonight, sits further back than i expected, but i can live with that. need to sort engine mounts.

and find a gearbox.

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need to find out how people deal with engine mounts putting a 2.5 (90 swb) into a swb series chassis. i think you change chassis mount on o/s and space them up by about 2", then the battery tray can stay, cutaway at moment to allow engine to sit roughly in place.

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Interesting.

connected a battery up and had it turning over on the starter. ;D

On the road by the weekend then!

which?

suppose to be going on hoilday saturday, but not feeling the love for it. so could be on here with a injury or two!!!!!

 :D

no progress at all. lots of problems at home, plus need new boiler, washing machine etc etc.

Life just gets in the way sometimes mate. Keep plugging away, when you can.  ;)

Isn't it always the way - as soon as one thing gets fixed a couple more start making problems!

Keep putting one foot in front of the other!

Son lives in Australia now. Best phase is "No worries Mate" I like that. Andy

not much progress lately, but managed a couple of hours this afternoon. lots of welding and grinding, and primer to protect it.

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Looks like lots of progress to me.  :)

Where have you hidden the holes ?

this is giving me ideas!!!!

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with a series 1 grille?

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 ;D

mothballed, but boiler is working and we have a new washing machine.

so much for leaving it alone,

got passenger door frame made and hung, also made decision to have slidy windows.

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the door skin(2mm) will overlap onto body, with a small rubber seal behind. the hinges allow this.

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the skin will move away from body when door opens.

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no pics, but spent a few hours today experimenting with door catches, got it mocked up after lots of measuring, drilling, bolting then welding. then grinding. door catches real nice and closes.

hopefully do some more tomorrow, along with door skin hopefully.

Your doors fit better than mine!

Sliding windows is a great idea. Really simplifies the doors as there is so much less to go wrong than having window winder mechanisms.


You sure youre not building an APC ? ;)

after looking at it i think its 1.5!!!!!

more progress,

work to do on door skin but getting there.

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put some primer on door to protect it.

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also think i'll continue metal trim along cowl side.

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100 mile road trip this evening to pick up a gearbox, not good trying to find a house in the middle of the wilds in the dark with only scribbled address on paper, no sat nav,no map !!!! the fun of it!!! lol

what g/box 2wd or 4wd

4wd mike, all £50 worth!!!!

thats 2 months project money!!!! yes things are tight. :-[

2, 2a, or 3,,,

3, i hope!!!!

will get some pics. i've noticed series parts are starting to sell for good money now.

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re-con exchange  2a by the look of it

so no synchro on 1st only? or 1st and 2nd?

and it will fit a 2.5?

got this plate on it.

great knowledge there mike.

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chuck youre rover 2.5 in the skip,,

go and look for a late bmc 2.5 badged as leyland with the narrow serpentine fan belt ====far better lump  ;)

Think Spanners is right about it being a 2a box. Most had no syncro on first but very lates ones did. If so it should have an S prefix to a number stamped on the top cover.

words of advice

strip down clean up and free off the 4wd dog in the nose where the front prop fits it will be a job well done as they only rely on a spring to engage the dog when you pull the pin up if it isnt nice and free it wont engage 4wd or only partly engage  and chew itself up  or jamb in 4wd

guess how i know   ::)

cheers dave and mike.

big font of knowledge

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trial fit.

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going to move engine forward a little(must make sure grill still sits ok)

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so the engine is'nt inside the cab!!!

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the engine is going back to its orignal position.

makes registering easier(in case of inspection) plus i can buy new propshaft off the shelf for about £60 and it will fit with no messing.

Sounds like a sensible move.

which prop do you need  ,,north lincs clear out will unearth a couple ,, ;) ;)

rear mike.

back to original plans, engine/box now mounted 5 1/2" forward!!!
chassis mounts not altered.
onto steering and pedals. blimey space is tight, got steering box bolted onto stock mounts. err........ steering wheel rather
close to driver!!! plans to cure that.
got a pedal box from a discovery. thats now been chopped into two and now has a big hole drilled between clutch/brake pedals to slide down column. the throttle cable actually fits onto the original mount and fixing on injecter pump which is rather handy!! guess thats a good thing with keeping everything landrover.

no pics yet.

Here's a pic for you. Saw this flat roofed pick-up on FaceBook & thought of you.

very nice, but why do they always put bling wheels on?

because he had them lying about somewhere no doubt ? A posh rat rod ?  I wonder if any of them have passed the BIVA test ? ::)

been mocking up stuff, got steering box mounted, has caused a few problems as you can see!!!

mocked seat up.

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as you can see, wheel is a tad too high and in ya face!!!

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the only thing in right place is gearstick!!!

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Easy enough to shorten the steering column?

yes, and hopefully keep it looking stock!!

A bit of foam would be nice on the seats, cracking build. Andy

just done a quick tally up of the bigger bits i need for ratrod truck...........................oh dear!!!!

won't be finished anytime soon!!!

That's the worse thing to do ? :-\
Just plod on and buy what you can when you can ? Every project takes longer /more money than you hope..ask everybody  :'(

Very true. It's so easy to forget to allow for all those smaller items, such as electrical components, refurb parts, engine.   ;)  They all add up.
Starting with a bare rolling chassis, does tend to mean, that a few items may be missing. :D
 It's a hobby, and not a cheap one, so you do what you can, when you can and when finances permit.
Keep at it Chris.

It's definitely an all engrossing pastime -all my available spare cash goes into either my truck or my bike. I'm on holiday at the moment & if it weren't for this hobby I could be sitting on a beach in the sun somewhere. I enjoy creating stuff though. The building bug's a bit of a curse really -but at least I'll have something to show for it when they're done.
Keep plugging away Chris. We all know how you feel! Any progress is still progress.

Not one for posting this sort of comment but why is it on ebay? I have to say I am disappointed and that you really need to finish a project, but then again its non of my business so I am off. Andy 

there is a genuine reason, one that i don't realy want to discuss at moment.

don't worry i'm not going away. but might disapear for a while.

That would be a shame  :(

Selling the truck is up to you, just don't dissappear.

Like others have said no need to disappear it’s only a project. I was a bit hard on you with my last post which I apologise for but it was only because I was enjoying the build. Anyway I hope things turn out ok and you find a project you are happy with and make sure you post it to keep us all up to date. Andy

Got to agree with Andy -this one showed promise, (though Id've put a few more curves in it myself). I was looking forward to seeing how it turned out.
Life just gets in the way sometimes though & there are more important things than cars & bikes, (I'm told). Don't go wandering off too far matey.

My son never finishes his projects for one reason or another ? You'll be back ;)

OK,,OK,, so whats going to slow this build ????  PM,,me

i'm still here,

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just struggling with everything at the moment. not a good time of year. plus my medication has been changed.

well its time to give the facts as they are.

i've no money. yep even though me and mrs poprodder are both working, i've not a dime spare.(or enough for that matter!!!)
lost all interest in rods etc, no idea why, not just a phase but not been to our local club meet for nearly 2yrs, don't miss it. no interest to go in garage, when i do, i have to force myself to do anything.

its no good me mothballing the pick up in garage, its going, along with garage!!!

need to take a step back and finish house repairs etc.

i'll keep popping in on here, but don't think i'll keep a pressence so much on other forums.

chris.

I often get like that Chris. But what ever you get rid of, just make sure you keep all your tools ..... dont get rid of anything, as hopefully after you have given it a rest for a while you will get the urge to tinker again.  ;)

will never sell me tools, 26yrs as a boatbuilder i accumulated a fair old collection.

I've been there quite a few times over the years & actually got rid of my tools & given up rented garages several times.
I decided a while ago that my current 2 projects will be my last. Not giving up on the scene, just want to get out & enjoy the vehicles I've got rather than constantly working on new ones. It's an age thing I think -several of my mates are thinning their project collections at the moment.
Always welcome here Chris.  ;)

Sold my lathe,sold my compressor ,selling my harley..may sell the chop project ..will try n keep the trike..had enuff of hotrods/chops..but will always have the passion..feel the same as Andy some days..rock on dude regardless  8)

I often get like that as well Chris . I'm trying hard to thin my stuff down and , Like Andy , would love to just have a couple that meet my needs and not be forever building. Having said that I actually need to keep moving as my back gets worse if I do nothing :(

Same here. Next year I will probably be selling my bikes but can't imagine ever selling the trike. These days I can only work for an hour at a time but not doing anything makes things worse.
Take a long break from it all Chris and the enthusiasm may come back. Perhaps a project that takes less time, space and cash may be the way to go. I found motorcycles to be profitable (the trike was funded by bikes) and gave me something to do.

Iv rarely found hotrods/trikes/bikes profitable ?  :-\

I must agree with Dave, I have usually managed to make sufficient profit from bikes/trikes etc. to at least fund the next "vision", and that's over quite a long lifetime, (to date ;D), but like everyone, enthusiasm, interest, and direction comes and goes, and ain't that the way of things, so, sit out a spell, until driven back! often by boredom, to more of the same... :D :D Morrag

how about this for a message sent on ebay!!!

"sorry i fail to see where you are going with this, is it all in your head or do you have some photos / ideas to share?"

this was my reply, no idea why i bothered!!!

"?,  i guess you've no imagination of your own.
look up hotrodding on google.
and please stop wasting peoples time with silly questions!!!!!"

apparently he was asking a valid question!!!!!  lol

got this reply.

"Plenty of imagination thanks but was thinking you might engage in conversation about the project, was actually interested in the idea of buying it but you attitude just sunk any ideas of that. Your loss"

We can't really comment on your eBay messages good sir,with out having privy to the whole conversation ..but yes we all get some funny messages? ;)

that is the whole conversation!!!

Oh well..obviously one of life's stranger types ?

yep, stranger than me!!!!! lol

Keep your cool & just take their money Chris.
What they choose to do with your vision is up to them -never gonna be the same as yours, whatever the vehicle is.

trouble is andy they wanted to know my vision!!!

EBAY LINK   ????? had no idea you had it on the bay  >:(

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 :)

don't expect much this side of christmas.

still on ebay.

Nowt selling at the moment

your right there.

tried to sell myself  buyer asked for a refund before they paid  ::) ::) ::)

i offered myself to charity but was declined!!!!

medical science/experiments ?????

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252123593650?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649

It could be that people don't like that amount of repair work to the chassis and it hasn't been ground down which people prefer. Just trying to be objective.

but most end up knee deep in mud.

i've been working with cardboard and sticky tape. doe'snt weld well though!!!! lol

You keeping it now Chris? Cardboard's cheap & you can do plenty of planning & problem solving with it while you save your pennies.

lots of planning(yes) and problem solving(erm...............pass on that one!!!lol)

but not many pennies to save.

and yes its staying.  mainly cos its so fugly no one wanted it!!!!

Just means you can show 'em your vision was right :)

Or go to plan B. Stick a Moggy thou body on it.  ;D

you guys don't want to know what plan B was!!!!!

Go on try us  :)

Course we do, but only if its legal ::)       ;D ;D ;D ;D

I don't mind even if its illegal. :D :D

erm.....................no...

ok an 80's motor!!!!!

Go for it. I am watching  :)

No! not a Mini Metro. Or (heavens forbid) a Austin Allegro?

Why not best of BL. The maxi rod (in brown please)  ;D

same family...................ish!!! last of its breed plus a bit of jap!!!

but would also have been my daily, as everything would have been sold.

Triumph Acclaim.

they are a cracking motor if you can find a good'un

could still happen.

Update please

I worked in a Leyland garage when they first came out,it was the best car we had on the forecourt at that time. We sold loads of them. If you can get a goodun it would make nice little runaround.

Good luck, rust, rust,rust....

this is the end.

sold on ebay for peanuts, oh well.

Next!  :)

 ;)   :D

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You still working on this ? Firewall starting to look good.

yes, my 16yr old son gave me a bollocking!!! and cancelled ebay order!!!

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Good on your Son, us oldens need a kick up the arse every now and then ;D  Nice to see some more progress buddy.

old!!!! i'm only 43!!!!

Maybe we need that lad to join the forum & share some of his youthful vigour.  :)
I'm glad you haven't given up Chris. Doesn't matter how long it takes, just chip away at it when the mood takes you. Curvy bulkhead looks nice.

Old, I don't remember being 43 when I was 43!! :( :( :( :( :( :(.... ;D

PS....and I admire your effort and perserverance Pop.R.... ;) ;) ;)

i'm sitting here now looking at it and thinking why the hell did i do it like that!!!!! going to be fun matching it up on the inside.

thanks guys, patterned out the n/s floor tonight, cut and tacked it in, only for the welder to decide it wanted to eat the new wire liner!!! grrrrr!!!!

well thats me buggered, plastic parts in welder worn up(it is 20yr old) cannot get replacements so will need to buy a new one.
this is a no go.
ho hum.

There must be something you can sell - something you don't need as much as you need a welder!

got lots of stuff for sale, not a lot selling.

What has worn out ? Perhaps it can be remade if no longer available.

i've found a supplier of said part!!!! in america, add postage and its 3/4 the cost of new machine!!!

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try ,,brookside welding in  macclesfield in cheshire  youlle be suprised what they can get and sort out

cheers mike, trouble is this machine has had 2 complete updates since i've had it. most parts for sale seem to for the last or latest model.

What make and model is this welder.

same as this one.

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Weldequip have the same feed unit but it's £49.75 + £6.95 P&P
Might be better looking for a spares /repair one to canibalise. My 90EN has a different (later ?) unit but fixings etc look the same, so I imagine that most of these may be interchangeable.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mig-Welder-Wire-Feed-Motor-Mig-Wire-Motor-Mig-Wire-feeder-24VDC-Wire-Feeder-/111135995700?hash=item19e038b734:g:nmcAAOxylpNTVflh

Tel: 0871 410 1270
Fax: 0871 410 1275
Email: parts@machinemart.co.uk

Parts Department
Machine Mart Ltd
211 Lower Parliament Street
Nottingham
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That's the same as a Cebora-Snap-on 130 Turbo.
I may have one i will look this morning.
I know i have a torch.

after some decorating today i thought i would have another tinker with the welder. tried to mend it late yesterday but it still played up, so i realy took it apart this time. seems the plastic clamp bit is not holding the wire liner tight enough, so when the wire is feeding through it pushes the liner up the torch hose(!?!)   here comes the idea bodge to try and cure it. i pulled the liner out a little and wrapped some masking tape around it so when i pushed it back it it stopped. also put acouple of turns of tape around liner where the clamp holds onto it.

i've now welded up some of the floor and all seems well at the moment.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* ok that last one was a bit much!!!!!!

Well i must have thrown out the one i had. >:(

thanks for looking, hopefully the bodge will last a while.

part of drivers floor in, go pedal fitted, all good so far.

Let's have a look then.  :)

no pics yet.
had to go pick daughter up after performing for children in need.
so proud to see her on tv singing in the choir. yes i did  :'( :'( :'(

Good for you, nothing to be a shamed of

 :'( :'( again this morning, don't think i need to say why.

and because of the love here, i'll only post updates on MMM.

had far too much s**t on other forums.

Here and the metalshapers forum on FB are the only ones I bother with. They are both places where help, information, encouragement and helpful criticism are freely given, without all the nastiness that is usually found on forums. Life is too short to waste time deriding other peoples views or work (or reading such).

i think thats my problem, taking too much from peoples unwanted criticism.
onwards and upwards.

money is tight but i'll keep plodding on.

Following this silently, but with interest here from my corner of the world. So far it looking good.

I follow many of these posts fairly silently, I'm so impressed with all these builds!

thank you.

Criticism that they would never say to your face either. :(

thats so true kev.

And oiften from people who couldn't do what you do!

 :-[

Less talking, more building!  ;D

got some enthusiasm to do some work, metal cut, weld weld weld.....................then ran outa wire. ho hum.

D'oh!

day off tomorrow(yes back one day after a week off to then have a day off  8) ) so will go get some wire.

halfords seem cheapest around for 5kg roll  £20, cheaper than local motorist shop!!!

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well theres some progress, not pretty mind.

started on floor passenger side as i'll need to turn it around to do drivers side door, floor etc.

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heres the bench seat base mocked up.

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On the road for the Spring Chris?

doubt it, i'm about to rip the roof off!!!!

 :o ?
Rag top or new roof ?

reprofiled roof.

not much progress. ::)

roof is staying, gained headheight another way.

i have purchased one of these, a steering relay, as the one fitted is completely siezed and will have to be destroyed to be removed from chassis.
this will also explain the real tight steering when we moved it a while ago. must remember to fill with oil.

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Care to explain what that is for those of us that are hard of thinking.

heres a diagram, far better than i can explain.(plus i'm off to bed!!!)

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when you look at that it's no wonder the steering a vague on a landy

remember to ,,time up,, that relay as regards the top and bottom arm positions it makes a whole world of differance to how she will feel on the steering

?

Making sure that the arms are at the optimum relative positions.
Think it's 90 degrees to the rod that each arm is attached to at the straight ahead position.

thanks dave.

some progress!!!!! not a lot though!!!

seat base. back rest just temporary.
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view from passenger seat, going to be a split screen.
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decided to roll the window surrounds, and fit sliding windows further inside to hopefully give it a better shape.
got to weld and dress along the edge.
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pedal assembly, adapted from a discovery.
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5567050c0ad584.jpg)

and just an idea at present.
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More progress than I've made on mine recently Chris. keep plugging away at it mate.

cheers andy, after the boy gave me a bollicking for wanting to sell it, the daughter has got at me for not working on it!!!!

I see you got your extra head room. :)
That disco pedal assembly look handy Chris. I assume there wasn't room for the standard accelerator pedal.

you noticed the extra headroom then?  lol  seemed easier than raising the roof!!!!

throttle cable connects straight up, so bonus there.

if you read my facebook page you will know how this is going.
don't expect any updates for a long while.
just cannot afford new tools/materials that have been ruined by the rain that came through roof when it let go when i
was at work this morning.

Take a break from it mate -but don't sell it! :)

Hope your tools manage to survive the dousing with water. Remove the battery's from anything like meters or power tools and take the covers off things like your mig and let it all dry out.  A hair drier or fan heater helps.

And the airing cupboard is a good place to put them (tell her I said so!  ;)  )

clean up continues ::)
and i've ordered more steel. ;D

Pleased to hear it Chris. How's the roof?

covered in polythene at moment(inside and out)

When I lived with Tazet & the shed roof felt got ripped off in a storm, I ended up putting up an old gazebo inside the shed to keep everything dry. It was still there when we split up a couple of years later.

fitted new stair carpet today so brownie points gained.

started back on the rusty wreck!!!!

got some floor and infill panels on drivers side cut and part welded in, then run outa gas.  >:( ::)

Ain't that always the way.  :)
Have you fixed the roof yet ? Snows a coming ! ;)

no not yet. having to keep things covered at the moment.
got nice (real!!!  :D )  patina on the truck roof!!!!! :o

I feel your pain Chris -got the same on my Pop.

got some work done today, no pics.

and i've lost all my pics from laptop due to having to re-boot.  >:(

Shame. At least you can copy and save ones from this site and facebook etc, back onto your computer.

yep, but lots of others gone, thought i had them backed up, but no.

some were very important to this build, ho hum.

i'm on holiday this week, could be some work done.

trouble is payday is not until next friday  ::)

hope i don't need or break anything this week.

should have some news to post soon.

  SOLD   ::) ::)



















 :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Oh Gawd, you know if one Monkey passes a project onto another it upsets the natural order of things? There'll be a rift in the time space continuum & we'll all be sucked into oblivion. Don't say I didn't warn you.  :o

ha,,ha,,  fooled ya,,

part of it will be!!!!!  :o

but the body is staying  ;D  i'm more low life than high life!!!! :D

 :D ;D

 ???

chassis and running gear being sold, to be replaced with something a tad lower!!!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252306445873?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649

well i've been suffering with terrible tooth ache for the past few days, real banging head against wall pain.  following visit to dentist, i had the lovely job of removing body from chassis, for rolling chassis to be collected tomorrow(going to that big london!!!)  the boy give us a hand. on the hunt for a replacement. must be low.

Scimitar?

maybe, not going to rush into it.

Go kart! doesn't get much lower than that.

big gokart!!!!!  lol

well its gone, my god i need to tidy up. the garage should be twice the size for amount of crap in there!!!

well i've gone and bought a retro motor, so the pick up body is for sale. i'm never going to finish it(not in a short time span anyway) plus i think rules and regs are going to spoil things shortly.

https://www.facebook.com/chrisdralph/posts/630750713742781

Brave decision Chris, but entirely understandable.

what have you gone and bought chris ? ?

30yr old volvo. not worthy of this great forum.

you can have a laugh look here.

http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/188156/1987-volvo-340?page=1&scrollTo=2193267

You change cars like I do girlfriends.

well the body is still in the garage, on the look out locally for a cheap later modeled chassis vehicle,
so not given up on it.

going to get back onto this in new year, been putting shout out for a rolling chassis but no luck yet. why do people think they're worth a million pound!!!!  not talking anything old, just 90's vehicles!!! think there's a lot of dreamers out there. 

Find yourself a cheap Scimitar & pull it apart mate. Or bite the bullet & build from scratch for BIVA testing?
I had my Pop chassis rails welded up by Jimmy at Valley Gas Speed Shop in Berkshire, (now in Hampshire), for 500 quid. One off, basic side rails & front & rear cross members with front spring perch, although we later dropped the front lower & extended the back. I ain't rich, so it was a lot of cash to find, but Loon & I weren't confident we could build it level & true so it was worth getting right to give us a good base to start from.
Glad to hear you haven't given up on this one Chris. Personally I think your cab roof could do with some curves, but I love the bulkhead. It'll be interesting to see where you go with it.  ;)

project is going to carry on as a father - son build.
he won't let me sell it(or my daily!!!!) he's only 17,

Good for him!

i seem to be a taxi at the moment as he's at sixth form(2nd yr) and working.
he wants to get a advanced apprenticeship when finished his advanced b-tec.

That's what happens when kids have parents who DO stuff - they want to do stuff too!  Good for him and good for you!

well, an old project could be returning, is that a good idea?

I think you need to install a roundabout on your driveway!

lol, yes i do!!!!! ::)
got to go have a look at previous vehicle. depends how much of it is left!!!!! :o

well previous vehicle is beyond saving.

but a major update on this one within the next week.

So which previous one was it Chris?

MINX,,??????

the brown one!!!!!  lol

that is for sale mike, but its had a bare metal respray and engine rebuild!!!!

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new parts ordered, going to take a couple of weeks to turn up as being made to order!!!!! 

garage all cleaned for tomorrow!!!!! 

so,,,, tell us whats going in it

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Tease!
The brown one ...Citroen or Pop? 

new vehicle andy. for rebody using my part built cab.

(http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/9nYAAOSwYHxWFnM-/s-l225.jpg)

Its a Vauxhall of some description.

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any reason why the reg would be non transferable? not that i want to, just wondering why,

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Is it an imported vehicle?  - I mean a grey import that wasn't originally built for the british market?  If it was imported and allocated a reg number that could be it.

uk market model.

In that case I have no idea.

I'd leave it like that -I like that!

strange you say that andy, the more i look at it i'm thinking the same!!!!! plus it runs, drives, stops etc, just not been mot'ed since 2012!!!

well the strip down has started,
removed steering column, brake and clutch pedals which look ideal to swap straight over.
speedo, switches etc.
wiper motor and linkages.
anything i can remove that could be useful is being removed.
luckily there's no airbag, but plenty of electricals!!!
some how it runs and drives ok with the immobiliser ecu removed!!!! no idea how.

managed to find a diagram to show where the ten bolts are that hold body on.

hope to get it removed by next week end.

So what engine does that have then Chris?

2litre, 8v nothing crazy.

still stripping, my god theres some crap in modern vehicles.

dashborad area, erm its gone!!!!!!
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the body is very solid, thought for a while it was to good to strip down.
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trying to use as much of donor as possible, pedals, along with braking system will all be used.
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going to try to use steering column complete, even removed mounting bar,plates etc.
(http://media6000.dropshots.com/photos/1101204/20170411/r90_x_190726.jpg)

been told this bit is very important!!!!
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these will be have to be cut of as siezed solid. only 10 to find!!!!!
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/558ed218812bd5.jpg)

got to finish removing wiring loom, drain, remove radiator then a few odds and sods, should then be lift off!!!!

so 7 chassis bolts removed, 4 cut off, 3 removed at rear, fighting with a stubborn one that i think will shear off.

just got front bumper to remove then last 2 bolts. radiator etc,

then last few bits of wiring along with rear seat belts.

should then be body off.

Oh my Gawd! He's done it again!  :D

body still on, as suffering with trapped nerve in shoulder also don't help that i load vans at work.
i've got a 6inche drop just from wheel and tyre change(mostly tyres!!!) 9 1/2 inches stock, will come down to 3 1/2" ish soon. could be  a little higher due to less body weight. torson bars at front so can easily raise(or lower!!!) it an inche if required.

Get well soon matey -so we can follow your progress.  ;)

still no work done, got sent home from work early today. been to docs this afternoon.
muscle and nerve damage, been told to take a few days of work.
put on diazepam, said it will take at least ten days to start to feel better.
 

Bugger.

just abit, been told i MUST rest.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pre-order-All-metal-All-new-1930-Ford-Pickup-Truck-Roadster-Pickup-Hot-Rod-Body-/361946372621?roken=cUgayN

3 1/2 grand, but a bunch of handy reference photos for you there Chris.

thats handy andy!!!!!(  ::) )   :D

will give it alook. cheers.

back to docs tomorrow, in left shoulder as well now.  :(

thats me signed off for 9 days!!!! not happy. but then struggling to lift coffee cup at times.
guess i should stop moaning as lots of people far worse than me.

if it's rotator cuff I have been suffering for about 3 months now with not much improvment >:(

all i've been told is its muscle related, on new medication, making me sleepy rather than feeling pissed!!!!! baclofen?

so want to get on with this. grrrrr.......

Baclofen - never heard of it soi I googled it - hope you've read the info leaflet........

I thought he said Bacon.

i had to look on net as no info leaflet.
can be lots of side effects!!!!!

Yeah, same with most drugs - it's the interactions that I look at!

well i've got the tyres here.
going to be using original alloys sprayed matt or satin black with lower profile tyres fitted.

could only manage to lift one tyre into garage. my boy had to move the others.

i'm back to work, but boy am i struggling. physically and mentally.

ok enough of my minor problems back to the build.

not done a thing, no motivation. but a question.

rebody, does it matter if tyres are changed? wheels original but a change of rubber. would i be
best to leave originals on for finished pics then change?
cheers.

Surely it'd be alright wouldn't it? If it's legal to change tyres on a normal car, it should be on yours shouldn't it?
As you say though, maybe wait till after the inspection.

no inspection andy, form filling(v627/1) and photo's hopefully unless they have moved the goalposts again.

Same goalposts at the mo still Chris.

good to hear kev, one problem i have is body colour does not match v5c(been hand painted) do i send v5 off with colour change? i guess that would rule out one problem that they could pick up on.

Send a black & white photo! :)

Yup, update the V5C now Chris.

cheers kev, i guessed that would be a wise move.

https://www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-details-registration-certificate/changes-youll-need-to-update

******** just looking at this but never noticed this before? *******

Changes you need to update
You must update your V5C if you change any of the following:

colour
engine
cylinder capacity (cc)
fuel type
*******  chassis or bodyshell (replaced or modified)   ******
seating capacity
weight of a large vehicle, eg goods vehicle or campervan

So what constitutes "modified"? How far can you go before you need to notify them?

Anything apart from wipers and bulbs ? :D

no idea, don't know if its ever been written anywhere by dvla? kev? i know you've said about bulkheads and gearbox tunnel plus rear quarters. i guess it is written some where. there were some great links and write ups on the old ACE site.

Yes they was good info but no one paid any attention to it and it was costing all the  guys money to keep it all up there . Those words have been on the DVLA site for around 5 years now ;)  Same words used to be used on an info leaflet that used to be supplied with old V5s. Wouldn't have made any difference as back then unless it was a glaring modification the phone answere would have said " No, you don't need to notify us cos there is nowhere on the form to do it ".

This where DVLA sould be brought to task for creating so many problems for themselves.

There is what is currently still discussion that DVLA will draw a line in the sand on modified Historics and anything already done will be regarded as part of the cars Historic nature . I'll wait til I see it in writing and EXACTLY what they mean by it before celebrating ut it does seem the simplest way to put the toilet seat down.

going to take someone with big ones and deep pockets i think kev.

i've been back on it today, first time in about 3+weeks.
wiring now stored away, engine loom in one box, everything else in another.
everything out of interior that could be usefull(yes i know most will never ever be used!!!) has also been stored.
ended up cutting of last rear chassis bolt, still got 2 more at front which will also have to be cut as they have been inline of fire from mud,water etc for over 20yrs!!!! but need to remove bumper first which again will need bolts cutting.
i cut inner wing on drivers side to help when lifting to clear brake master/servo.
handbrake will be the last thing to disconnect due to it keeping the vehicle inside the garage!!!!lol

i know i need to take a picture of chassis number, do i also need vin plate photo?

We need a photo of your naked chassis!

OI,, this is a family friendly forum   :D :D :D

suppose i better put a pic up, not a lot has happened, cut the front of which will save us lifting body up over engine. just handbrake to disconnect(and keep to re-use)
the body does lift up from chassis so all good there.

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body coming off today, will try to grab some pics later.
need to get the boy out of his pit soon!!!!! lol

Good luck with the body lift Chris. There is usually a cable, earth strap or pipe that somehow got overlooked. :)

Yup, & it'll suddenly become the strongest cable in the World! :)

well me and the boy could'nt have had enough weetabix this morning as body still on!!!!!
had to postpone collection tomorrow. ::)

What's the hold up Chris?

erm....................muscle!!!!!  lol

 :D

just some random pics of as things are at moment.

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(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5593573da5690a.jpg)

and who knows what these are? don't think there is a production vehicle fitted with these anymore, i was surprised these were still fitted into the 21st century!!!!!

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5593573d9da1e2.jpg)

are they torsion bars ?? only speaking of them today for a project funny enough.

well this lot going tomorrow afternoon.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/559399c5137e39.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/559399c5079137.jpg)

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You know you'll scrap the one irreplaceable bit you'll realise you really, really need don't you :)

seems like no one wants to collect without v5c!!!!!
think i'll dump it all out back an watch the vultures decend!!!!

:)

hi everyone,
been some progress today, thanks mostly to my son greg for the help, even got him on the spanners!!!

this happened.

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(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55942d6008bf84.jpg)

took a couple of hours, bit of swearing etc but we got there in the end.

this is what is left. seems really solid, need to make up some new brake and fuel lines.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55942d5ff7192a.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55942d5ffb601c.jpg)

Rent a skip & bung the body in there? Must be someone on the internet who can dispose of a body for you?!

people will move in if you dont watch out  :D

body gone thank god. do need to check nothing has been left though!!!!!  lol

well this happened this afternoon!!!! should'nt have done it on my own but hey ho.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55943fa9e8859e.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55943fa9d8e198.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55943fa9d46d9e.jpg)

and if andy can do it!!!!! but i'm not quite model material!!!! lol

and glad sun was shinning!!!!

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 :D Ha ha!! Lookin' good Chris!
It's practically finished -on the road next week!
So -for the stoopid among us, (yeah, me), this is a re-body. Totally legit? No BIVA required? VOSA inspection needed when it's finished? Or literally send the V5C back to DVLA to change the body type? Just to clarify for other readers.

I like that, I did wonder what you were going to do, but yeah, that's good. cool 8) 8)

need to fill in a v627/1 form (built up vehicle report)
pics of vehicle with number plate showing before tear down, then no/plate with rolling chassis, and finally one of finished vehicle with no/plates showing.
send with v5c(i think? kev?) to dvla.
make of vehicle stays the same but model has to be changed.(new name) ie. "vauxhall poprodder" for example.
if they are happy no inspection, but if not inspection by sgs.

hope i've got that all correct.

SGS?
We do try to inform once in a while, so it's all useful info for readers, (we get a lot who read but don't ever post).
As you were. Carry on  :)

sgs are contracted by dvla to do vehicle inspections.

O.K, thanks.

 Slimy government slugs. ;D

 

 ;D

Probably best not to call 'em that when you take your trike for testing!

why is it when i want to work on it, its like a sauna in there!!!!
sweating buckets just from looking at it!!! lol
i'm also not one for sitting on beach or walking around in the sunshine(yes i really am a miserable git!!!!)
guess i'll make a parts list up.

i used plastic fuel lines on my minx, thinking about them on this, in my mind just as good as copper.

well where do i start. (facebookers will know most of this)

i've had a couple of bad months with the black dog, plus family medical problems(mrs poprodder)  which have really tested/nearly broke  us,
long nights talking, hospital visits etc, everything is ok for now but it really frightened me, like really, really.

onto automotive things.
 
my daily is an auto and i've been trying to swap it for a manual, but i've been fussy and like the car.
so i've started collecting parts to convert to manual.
this has diverted my interests so decided to see if i could sell some rod parts, i've lost all interest in rods etc.

i've sold the pick up body!!!!!!! collection later in the week.

i've also had an offer on chassis and running gear, don't know if i'll part with that yet.
but garage space could be turning into decking area etc.  as i evaluate family life etc.

Glad to hear Mrs P's alright mate.
Often takes a wake up call like that to make you take stock of your life & decide what's most important. They're only vehicles.
However it works out, you'll always be welcome here :)  

Family comes first mate.

cheers guys.

well the body has gone, down essex way.

chassis still here, will chase up the buyer(waster?) but no hurry there.

i'm on look out for a very cheap body to put on chassis, i'll consider anything but must be cheap cheap.

Another chapter in the saga? :)

yes, not rushing, been on look out for a while.
still got rolling chassis.

Glad to hear you've stuck with it. Is the chassis too big for something like a '27 T body? (Just thinking they're about the cheapest 'glass bodies around).

i think so, i did have t body dimensions somewhere.

got  a lead onto a very cheap pop body, already cut up which won't matter.
problem is its just a body with no doors etc!!!!

You don't really need doors  ,, do you ???

No doors on mine at the moment either! :)

Good job ,, we  are going to have a heat wave ,,lol,

Good -I want to put the final paint on next week.

Good weather from Monday onwards for one week

'bout bloomin' time!

Might give me a chance to build a new shed ,,, ready for the week after when it peees. It down again ,lol,

bid put on body on ebay, lets see what happens.


its prewar design. :-X

Hmm, curious!

well thats end of that ::)

but maybe a new direction, i've been in garage working :o :o

yes i realy have!!!  ;D

O.K -curious & confused.

still heading in different direction, buying parts as and when, pre-war design with a big twist.
certainly going to be marmite!!!! lol

Seriously mate, you can't build a car out of Marmite. No structural integrity at all.

He's right you know,try Bread sticks and Cream Cheese. ::)

Now you're talkin'!

What are you doing poproder  Fabricating a body from scratch or looking to  piece together body parts you can find.

erm............ok, looking at doing something like this.

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 ;D Is that a kit car body or a made up or moded original.

just an example, prefer willys jeep tub,
that pic is body panels attached to a mx5!!!!

Interesting ? Will it pass the test ?

i'm doing a re-body on swb frontera.
one above is in usa.

Genuine Willys jeep tubs go for big money and are hard to find. Mahindra or Jago might be easier, but the design is so simple it would be fairly easy to make. The Jeep was a lot narrower than the Frontera so widened wings/flares or a wide body. If doing a self build body, using a modified series Land Rover bulkhead/screen might save a lot of work.

Got a real good frontera here

got rolling chassis mike,
body will be scratch built where possible, been looking at "owner type jeeps"

look on google for pics.

(https://www.myboracayguide.com/info/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Mainland-Tour-Custom-Jeep-Rental-00.jpg)

Like the idea but think i am with olds a mahindra or better still the jago jeep idea its less fraught with registration difficulties too how i see it.

registration will be rebody.

using a v627/1 built up vehicle report form.

chassis and running gear,engine etc will be stock.

so no test required for that then. Right? 8)

I'm sure you will still need to test it ?

I meant a test other than MOT, or will it indeed need just such a test?

As far as I'm aware, if kept within the rules then it shouldn't require full BIVA testing, but may need to be inspected and it's best to build to BIVA standards just in case.
Remember NO alterations to the chassis. Best to keep as much of the driveline, suspension, steering and brakes, as standard as possible. Obviously no sharp edges etc, and you need to keep to, or exceed standards that were applicable when the vehicle was originally made, on items such as seat belts, glass and lighting.
Steering and brakes are areas on older vehicles, where the 8 point rule and BIVA can come into conflict. To keep them as originally built, means that building to BIVA standards is impossible, but that shouldn't affect anything originally made from the 70's on.

As Olds said..it's going to need some sort of test..unless it was simply left registered as original ? But those days are coming to an end? :o

Ok thanks for the explanation appreciated i am largely in the dark and certainly negative in attitude when it comes to these Tests, i really should get my act together and do the research on what is what! at least then my ignorance on such matters wont be as obvious.

yep, could well need an inspection by sgs if dvla are anyway unhappy, (only sending the minimuim required, photo's etc)
once documents are all updated it will then need an MOT.

I have downloaded the IVA book and saved the detail pages off the GOV site, and plan to inwardly digest it, it looks to be changing in september this year.
  My Devon will be stock chassis and body and i think i need to do more research before i decide on the mechanicals  to avoid complications.

ok, bought some parts today, not going jeep route but will be some type of hotrod(just don't ask me what yet!!! lol)

some of you will no doubt know what these are off.

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Ooh, interesting.

Me likes Hotrods 8)

searching for a body, will be a pick up. couple on ebay.

and yes i know i had a part built one.

little bit of progress, body being delivered tomorrow afternoon ;D ;D ;D

and its 1954, but not stock.

Oooooh! :)
Can't wait to see it now!

and not complete!!!  :o ::)

When you say "not complete' do you mean it's missing some trim, or, you've bought a pair of doors ? ;)

need a pair of doors!!!!!  lol
thats no bad thing to start with as they will be in the way.

So does Andy ? ::)

seems none of us have a complete body!!!! lol

sitting here like an expectant dad, please hurry up with my new plaything. :D :D :D

its on the way!!!!!!   ;D
                                   ;D
                                        ;D
                                             ;D
                                          ;D
                                               ;D 

You found someone to pick it up then.  :) That was quick. :)

yep, return journey home so cheap cheap ;D

 :-\ :-\ :-\
stuck in traffic, redilvery monday.

D'oh!

That's a shame.
As for a lack of doors, as far as I'm aware, there's nothing in the construction and use regs to say that doors are required. You and Andy could start a new trend.  ;)  ;D

I did actually wonder about that! MOT legal then?

Seems that a lack of doors is not a MOT failure point. Though a safety strap (willys jeep) might be a good idea. :)

will have doors as this could if ever finished become a daily(ish) due to 4 pot engine and standard drive train.

Looking forward to seeing this one :)

well this happened this morning.

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The dog arrived then. :) Didn't take long to drop it onto the frame.
Think you might need bigger wheels (& some doors, wings, bonnet,................................................) ;)

10mins!!!! then 1 1/2hr to get back inside!!!! me and boy wringing wet after that!!!! i've now got a long shift at work. great fun. lol

Dog, as in Rover?

yep.
p4 but i've no idea of year!!! lol 54 to 64

if things go to plan(ok silly ideas!!!) it won't be a pick up.

Huh? Small van? Or have you bought the back half of a P4 too?!

trying to buy a back half, making a very swb coupe!!!!(which thinking about it is way out of my skill set)

you'll be fine....what could possibly go wrong? Answers on a post card to MMM no later that 12th of this month.

D'you know, I can't think of anything to say!

 :o :o

think that will be my new signature!!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 ;D
A tray back ute might be the easiest route.
Before worrying about the back, think I'd at least try to find some front wings to determine how far back the body needs to sit on the chassis. That or some very careful measuring.

got a call last night from a local club member, having a chat he say's i hear your looking for some p4 parts? yes say's i,
i'm awaiting another call this morning as said person is breaking 2 p4's!!!!! result. this is just 15 mile up the road!!!!
happy days.

going to have a look when on holiday in 2 weeks time.

How lucky is that :)

i know!!!! got offered pair of doors and bonnet through another local club member
but these looked like they had been on a banger racer!!!!  :o :o :o

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"May require some cosmetic work" :)

i've been trying to use as many frontera parts as possible.
got the steering column roughly in place, this will save a lot of work.

this is roughly stock position on the rover.

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length is near enough spot on but does depend on front wing position but there is some movement in wheel position now.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180814/r270_b_115824.jpg)

and wheel position, with wheel fitted, i've done this style of car before and i'm going there again!!!!

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Is that the metal version of a "patchwork" quilt?......... ??? ???

erm yes, and its all going!!!!!

So, I hear we're going sky high with this one?

yes!!!!

box steel ordered, already got steel sheet for floor

floor coming out, new box frame being made up which will also have body mounts to match chassis mount positions,
then new floor.
got to replace brake lines and fuel pipes which will be done once frame work is made.

Progress! We like progress :)

waiting in all morning for a delivery,

wow parcel force can deliver on time!!!!!

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i better go get on with it!!!

:)

The joys of mock up fab work. Measure ten times, then sit and look, measure another ten times then maybe cut!!!! Lol yes that patch work floor is going, to be replaced by framework and new floor 100mm higher. #channelled #lowslow #ratrod

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180823/b_122035.jpg)

Patch work floor to be replaced in ratrod. Body was on a car with separate chassis (as it still will be)

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the floor is same both sides,

Slowly building framework up for body channel, same for other side then body will sit 5inches lower on chassis. Floor panels will be last so I can access underneath.

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So do they hang along either side of the chassis, like a ladder?

will bolt to original 4 body mounts as can be seen through hole in floor,

artistic impression(ish!!!!!  lol)

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180828/b_091341.jpg)

a bit overkill but should be a tad stronger than whats there now.

more progress, frame work tacked in on passenger side,

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put body on its back, floor really is a mess.

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then started cutting floor out.

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Does the body have enough structure to cut the whole floor out without it distorting? Might be worth adding a few temporary braces?

the back panel is made from 2mm steel plate!!!
its really rigid with frame work inside. i'm amazed with how much steel isin front scuttle/bulkhead.

:)

Roof leaking, things have got a bit wet!!!  :( :( ::) ::)

a bit of progress this morning.

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rest of floor removed.

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bottom of cab back will be trimmed level with floor.

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just other side to do now!!!!

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located front doors, awaiting delivery confirmation.

I had doors once :(

not the best but not a lot to choose from, early alloy ones as well.

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any news on your doors Andy?

finished welding this side, cleaned bottom of cab level, then splashed some paint on, yes shiny!!!! lol

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:) Nope.

thats not good.

 :) I made the mistake of saying there was no rush for them & he said he'd fit them in between other jobs. Not holding me up at the moment, but I'll have to chase him up at some point.

can remember customers at boatyard saying no rush, biggest mistake they could make.
2yrs later boats were still unfinished due to other so called rush jobs coming in.
imo you need to get onto him now Andy.

Yes Sir :)

not much progress yesterday,
cut floor pan out on other side,

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welded where needed.

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need to trim front of floor and finish welding.

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once painted i will sit it back onto chassis and start making mountings to fix to original frontera body chassis mounts.
don't know whether to use original rubber mounts or metal to metal.

and yes my welder is over 20yrs old and really past its best!!!!

Body back down on chassis, needs to go lower at back by about 3inches.

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Ahh, now I see how the framework works :)

a few alterations to do but to be expected as no way to know how it will sit until its all in.
doors not here until 10th, plenty to do though. body needs to be lower, body mounts once its in correct position, got frontera steering and pedals to fit.
brake lines to replace and some fuel lines. its nice not having to deal with suspension and chassis work, but i have got electrics to do as engine is fuel injection. going to see if i can delete transfer box and propshaft. really want to take out front axle(seperate hubs like a fwd) but that can wait. got an idea for exhaust, most will hate it(which i like)  most are going to hate the whole thing anyway :D ;D

So what's the look (sketch/drawing?) your going for sir? Because I'm perplexed /intrigued as to what your trying to achieve here ?

 a ratrod pick up, lowered by channeling body.
no sketch or drawing(would end up looking like a 5yr olds car pic!!!) all in my head!!! yes a dangerous place to be!!!
 

Well it certainly qualifies as a RAT  :D I was kinda hoping for something else,but not sure what ? ???

I'm not hating it at all. I'm intrigued to see how this one turns out :)

i'm intrigued as well!!!! lol

nothing done today, spent day with wife, shopping, lunch, cooked dinner together, now sitting here after watching f1.

Quite a few of us ARE  ;D

little bit of progress today,
rear of floor frame altered to lower body at rear. lots of work, does the job.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180904/b_173403.jpg)

started on body mounts, in kit form!!! lol mostly frontera parts.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180904/b_173408.jpg)

o/s mounts finished, nothing amazing but will do the job.

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got this hell to sort out!!!! :o :o :o ??? ??? ???

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Holy cr*pthe very best of luck with that birds nest. :o

hope to disect the engine loom out of it,
straight forward really as each wire has a plug on the end which will only plug into one place.

You're flying along Chris! Good progress.

thanks Andy.

still long way to go.

got the body mounts done on n/s, got to chop out and alter part of front floor frame as its nearly sitting on top of catalytic converter.

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started cutting floor panels, amazingly both sides are the same size!!! lol

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started mocking up seat, steering pedals etc.  notes on pad are dimensions from my daily civic, so should be a comfortable seating position. the seat is only for mock up.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20180905/b_144642.jpg)

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last night i drew out an idea for rear windows, don't know really if i like this, also might have exhaust up the middle.

will need input on this i think.

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Ooh, that'd be loud!

not really with all existing silencers in place.  someone mentioned putting it out the bonnet!!!! thats a no due to noise and having to keep the cat.

a big ole appeared!!!

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to be filled with this.

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said item in hole.

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problems to sort, but all of that is stock frontera.

At this rate..soon be done

Now I'm confused -is that the brake servo or power steering?

brake servo Andy, thats how its mounted in frontera, tried to keep it as is.
pedal is mounted in black metal part, where rusty bolt is on pic with it on seat.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos6000/photos/1101204/20170411/r90_x_190658.jpg)

Aah.

not much done over past few days,

but i've got pedals!!!!

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mount for brake servo(part of pedal mount)

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and steering wheel!!!

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That's a step forward.

We have doors!!!

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Total pick up body cost less than £400(so far), which I think is good looking at prices today.(That includes all delivery charges!!!)

Better condition than my Pop doors. Nice.

 aluminium  ;D

not so good though to repair, modify etc :o

back on it.

Not a lot to show for a days work, but steering column can be removed from inside, got to mount clutch master yet.

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You're certainly cracking on Chris! :)

yep, need to get a new welding mask(only got handheld) as had arc eye since 2am.
glad my shift was only 5hrs this morning.

had to pick daughter up so grabbed this on the way.

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Feels horrible doesn't it.
A wise investment

tried passenger door in hole today, oh my days, square peg and round hole springs to mind. :-\

:) I've got to do that yet, but mine have to fit a fully painted body!

also had to have another go at steering column position due to a problem that would bug me but no one else would know about,

?

wheel on the p*ss ::), not by much but enough,1/2" maybe.
having to alter mount inside car. not much work but still a pain.

The Pop one's offset slightly, but if it wasn't I wouldn't be able to get my hand between the wheel & the door.

gaining the 1/2" has moved wheel about 2" away from door!!!!
but a bit more room in p4 cabin as it could seat 3 upfront!!!! 

:)

Most steering columns are offset methinks  ;D

clutch and brake master mounts finished.

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:)

We have a working clutch and brake, steering that turns the wheels and key!!!(no not had it running  lol)

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I wish mine was moving along as fast as yours!

That's a very clear photo ?

Only phone camera.

i've decided on what front end to use, going to be very marmite, infact more against than for it!!!

Rover P4? :)

no, fully fendered though. will shock a lot of people.
but most will say why?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's always good to shock people  :)

most will say why? better then WTF though  ;D

both i reckon!!!! lol

this is the last p4 body work part to buy,

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Aluminium bonnet to match the doors, also wings, etc.(but thats getting ahead of things)

this is also week 2 off work with a torn muscle in my shoulder. doc's at 10am this morning.

Ouch!

signed off till 28th, apparently its not me shoulder but me neck, got to have physio, doc told me i have to take it easy and must look after myself. might have to look for a less physical job  :(

I know that feeling.

25yrs lifting stuff i should'nt has done me no good.

32 years of carrying Mail bags plus 4 of working on building sites :(

if people did'nt know i'm looking for land rover series wings, grill panel plus front lower and swb rear tub.
plus 2 front bumpers. any condition.

i said people are going to go WTF!!!

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Nah, it kinda makes sense. They're very simple bolt together panels, but not very curvy. Loony's got Flap's old Landy, (series 3 maybe?), but I've never looked in the engine bay -is there some sort of framework to support the panels or are they self supporting?
There's a big Landover show somewhere in the Midlands isn't there? If all else fails, you must be able to buy repro parts.

new panels are easily purchased, which i think could be the way to go.

paddock spares one of the biggest companies.

https://www.paddockspares.com/

I,v been buying of paddocks since I wasv14 years old and the top woman is supposed to have retired but she still knows what go,s on ,,good old ,glyne,s,

I can see it. Transition tween front of doors and wing might take some work. Remember that original series Land rover panels aren't aluminium  but Birmabright BB2 or BB3, an alloy of aluminium, manganese and magnesium. So take more care to anneal before trying to reshape anything as it work hardens really easily.

had a series 3  a lot of years ago, that was bad enough doing body and respray.

ignore bull bar, was the "in thing" 25 ish years ago!!!!

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Visited my Mum in Christchurch, Dorset today. This was in the next street.

.

very nice.

ordered l/r series hinges and fixings for doors.

figured it would be easier than trying to find p4 parts.

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Did you order the top hinges with mirror mounts ??

no mike, going to mount these on the doors.

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Hmm. This should be interesting.
 I assume you are going to make a steel frame to mount the hinges on, in lieu of the LR bulkhead.

yes, going to be welded on outside of a-pillar, between door and wing.

a big parcel arrived today, so glad mrs poprodder was here as i could'nt manage it.

the outside was covered in shrink wrap and parecel tape.

then under that was a little cardboard.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181015/r90_x_151258.jpg)

which then had foam under that, along with a roll of parcel tape!!! lol

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once removed revealed this!!!!

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:) I could see flat topped Landover wings working with that.

Me too. The tops of P4 wings are quite flat front to back. It's the front/sides that have all the curves. Think a 90/110 grill and front panel might be easier to mate to the bonnet but wouldn't be quite so distinctive.

That was a lot of packaging for a box of light bulbs.  :D

sorry about dogs arse!!! lol

Sorted with wings.  ;D ;D ;D

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short road trip tomorrow with the boy to sudbury to pick up.

Collected wings today, crap journey, rain there and back.
Wings look ok,  had a measure and everything looks like it will fit with a bit of fettling
What's legality of 3 head lights? Middle one for main beam only.

Nope, as far as I know you can't do a central main beam.  But....The P4 Rover Cyclops (up to 52) had a spotlight mounted centrally in the grill and there doesn't seem to be anything in the modern IVA manual with reference to front spotlights so you might be OK, as long as it's switched with warning lamp and can only work with main beam.  

cheers, spot light it will be then.

just sat on corner, not looking too far out.

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lots of work to do but its going to work.

lots will not like it, but thats tough.

front of wing will be max 10" from ground, front bumper will sit lower.

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oh dear, i do apologise but i've been sidetracked by selling my daily and buying something a little older to use!!!
yes i should know better, but.........oh sod it heres a pic. bit young to be on here as a project.(which its not, its a daily!!!)

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but i have made a decision on paint colour!!!! yes i know that don't help.

Another?!!
You change cars more times than I change socks! :)

other one needed £900 in parts alone for flywheel and clutch!!!!

:) The Post Office depot I work at has just scrapped several vans. They were 10 years old & needed over £1000 worth of work to pass the MOT, but were only valued at £600.

years ago i'dhave bought the parts and done it, not now.
it slipped very slightly in 6th gear at erm........the legal limit ;)

By eck he's bought a Ronda or is it a Hover.

hope i have better luck than last one i had!!!!

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right back onto the proper project.

bonnet bolted to hinges after freeing them off.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181103/b_123232.jpg)

with door in the hole, started trimming wings and its not going to take too much work to look half decent.

(https://storage04.dropshots.com/photos8000/photos/1101204/20181103/b_123229.jpg)

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wheel to be changed.

Please take that horrible bit of chequer plate off!

yes thats going!!!! lol

grill on the way, another piece that will be, wtf?

to be chopped and changed.

well this is type of grill on the way, bought for £8, but then i'm cutting it up a little!!!

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Is that the later plastic type?

yes, series 3.

will look a little different once 2/3 of it is cut away.

Apparently when LandRover changed from metal to plastic, the Aussie market complained cos they used to take them off & use them as BBQ racks! :)

 going to need a name for it. wings, doors, bonnet and rear tub will be raw aluminium, cab will be purple. rover p4 cab & bonnet. with the rest being series land rover parts.

just reached my free limit on photo hosting site........bugger.

Removed chequer  plate from wing top, bit rough under but no bigy.
wing sitting in better position now, will sit about 3 inches lower than on tape, with bumper sitting lower.
looks like panels will clean up ok. sorry for lots of pics.

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I really can't imagine what's in your mind for the finished look - I guess that's why you keep posting pics of little bits of, to keep us guessing! - It works!

I think I'd just run a couple of horizontal slats across the rad opening -nothing too complicated, & my vote would be for a single colour on the lot -but that's why it's your build & not mine :)
"Junkyard Dog" surely, as it's made from a mixture of Rover parts?

if i painted it black, it would be "the black dog"

:)

"Crazy Mongrel"

Series 3 grill, which will have 2/3rds removed,
and bottom off bonnet shut line will be folded upwards so bonnet sits flat on wings.

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Morris Minor type horizontal slat grille :)

Reminds me of early Ford trucks.

started on the a-post for hinge mounts. no pics but going to be fiddly but doable.

problems!!!!! hinges i cannot use as i think they look crap.
and the wheels i was going to use stick out of arches too much, bum holes.

pm on way

Surely no problem to widen the wings ?

90/110/Defender arches perhaps.

i was thinking the same thing, only prefer alloy ones, more like a jdm style.

had another look today in daylight with a clear head, not so bad, can get them to sit parallel fairly easily.

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this is the wheels i was going to use, frontera alloys i was planning to spray matt black.
thinking the 15" modular steels will look better or l200 steel wheels.
 
also wing needs to be moved back by a few inches.

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L200 wheels.

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not  much happened, did poke me head into garage today and yes its still there  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

They're the ones - love 'em!

:) Those steels should look O.K shouldn't they. Chrome hubcaps?

 :-[ :-[ :-[

still here, got some mad ideas.

Let's do it! :)

trying to work out the wiring on this, c20ne, engine loom seperate, just need live feeds etc to it.

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Utterly beyond me!

the way she looks at moment.

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I've got one that looks just like that!

Hi, yes I am still here and trying to get back on this.

Don't you Just love modern vehicle electrics!!!! (Well this is over 20yrs old!!!) Not even got into the actual wires yet!!! And this is just engine side of things.


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Sheesh! I bought a basic hotrod wiring kit for my Pop, but will still have to pay someone to fit it. Electrics mean absolutely nothing to me.
Nice to see you pushing on with it mate.

Hello old friend.

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Well hello there 👍

Do it, do it!!

A big new part has been bought for Old Dorg,  more to buy but enthusiasm is back.

Yay!  :)

A big oily lump with a turbo on it!!!!

Sounds good. What sort of turbo'd oily lump would that be ? Hopefully something with simpler wiring.  :)

Yes, no ecu!!!

Good news.
Firm believer of KISS(keep it simple stupid).
Seriously thinking of swapping the Jeep in for a Series Land Rover, purely because of it's lack of modern technology (that I can't understand and don't need).