Manky Monkey Motors

hi , i have a question , on my logbook it says that my trike is a reliant tricycle , do i have to have it mvsa"d or not , im getting a bit confused as to this law , thanks guys  ??? ??? ???

Does it say Robin or regal,if so thats what it is.

on model it says robin van , in body type and taxation it says trike ????????????

It's quite simple really. If you have changed the chassis/frame for anything than other than a standard replacement of the the original, or you have altered the chassis/frame, or you have changed the type of steering/suspension eg. from reliant to motorcycle then yes it needs MSVA.
Even hardtailing a bike requires MSVA if it's welded on.
At the moment you will find a lot of "Reliant trikes" some having no connection with Reliant with either short or no MOT on Ebay.

thanks old newbie , i owe you one  ;D ;D

Years ago you could've snuck it through the system if the logbook just said Reliant tricycle & didn't state a body type. As we keep saying though, those days are coming to an end & MOTs will be the first stumbling block. All MOT stations are computer linked directly to DVLA now. If they're presented with a vehicle for testing that clearly isn't what the logbook says it is, (as soon as they enter the registration number in the computer it tells them what it's registered as), they're supposed to refuse the test. When they do that, they have to give a reason. When they tick the box that says, not as stated on the logbook or whatever, you'll automatically get a letter from DVLA telling you to bring your vehicle in for inspection as there's a discrepency in the records.
At that point you'll be issued with an order prohibiting you from using the vehicle on the road. That's posted on the Police computer database, so if you pass a patrol car their onboard camera will flag it up as a banned vehicle. You may well also receive a fine.
MSVA it properly -it'll save you an awful lot of hassle in the long run.

That's exactly why i asked what the logbook read.

....and by the way...the MSVA aint as bad as some say to get through.

That's good to hear

Goose, I don't remember what type of trike you have, but bear in mind that if the frame has been changed you will also have to have a new vehicle identifier number (VIN)

this is what it looked like

thanks for the help peeps , realy appreciate it  ;D ;D

question that has been niggling me
i understand and agree this will get death traps fully checked now and get them of the streets
but
what happens to the trikes that were done years ago before the msva came in do they have to get checked out

I think this really depends on what is stated on the V5c'
If the trike was correctly registered then no, as the MSVA is not retrospective. Nearly all trikes except 'motorcycle derived' ones using bolt on conversions and those made entirely of new parts and registered as a new vehicle will have a Q registration. Anything other than a Q plate would probably be treated with suspicion.

Nice trike

I thought the same thing.
And i can't see you having much difficulty getting it through the test.

My reliant was done many years ago (not by me) and this used to worry me. The log book says Jawa though not reliant and it has tricycle in the correct place without any body type. As Jawa never made a trike, with or without a reliant engine, I no longer worry ;)

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this was the frame after sandblasting , this was used everyday by his wife , :o

Bloody hell. As a sprint & drag bike machine examiner for many years I have seen some abortions in my time but that is beyond death trap. How do you propose to remedy it?

f**k me thats bad, if i cudnt weld i simply wouldnt , everyone has a mate who does, this "builder" should never be allowed near a welder again, its beyond me why youd risk your own let alone a loved ones life.    maybe he hated his wife though??

its already been ground out , jigged and re-welded , like you say he must hate his missus , to risk peoples lives like that , im glad you  fellas told me to get it mvsa"d , once again i thank you all

Good God Goose :o, bet you're glad you had that blasted, at least now you'll know that it's been done properly.

Whoever did the original must have studied the Braille handbook copy of "Welding for Beginners"!! However, makes you wonder just how many others, possibly properly tested, are out there!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(Morrag

Yep, and it'll only take a few accidents involving vehicles like this to force us all to use coded welders and certified frames.

 :o that is very very scary I've never seen anything like that before  :o
what the hell was holding it together the paint cos it sure as hell wernt that mess

Well everyone has said it before me, what a lash up. Don't think I have seen one so consistently bad like that

When I first realised I would have to ride a trike in future rather than a bike - early 2004 I guess - I went to look at a Reliant trike.  I knew NOTHING about trikes other than that they had 3 wheels, and this one was of the 'flying bedstead' variety.  I took one look and ran!  Didn't know anything about the welding but i could see that the rider's seat was attached or rather should have been attached by 2 small meccano-looking pices, one of which had rusted through and broken, which was enough to tell me I didn't want to look at anything else on it!
Used to see quite a lot of those about but most of them seem to have disappeared really.  Wonder why?   ;)

if you remember i bought a ,,road legal,,, reliant trike a couple of years back (good ole evil bay ) bought it of a driving instructor from coventry ,,

coventry is where it should have stayed ,, the morning after i got it home i cut it up for scrap,,, made out of school table legs  and bird crap welding,
so that was one less on the road

Sounds like the same one......... or its brother!

Hey Goose how big was the lump in your throat when you saw that.That would have got me the sack

its not the lump in my throat you need worry about , i nearly s**t myself when i saw it , when the welder saw it he wanted his adress , we live and learn , some of us the hard way , when i looked at the weld it looked ok , it was smoothed over with filler so i couldnt see it , when it was blasted thats when i got the shock , its now welded to a high standard and he guarantees me the rest will fall to bits first  ;D ;D

At least you found it before it caused you a mischief

now looking forward to the rebuild  ;D ;D

Wow, just saw that. He couldn't have thought that was ok, could he? - makes you shudder

my latest vw trike was used every day as a only mode of transport for the lady  and her young son  i bougjht it off   the forks needed to be swaped as the legs was pitted on removal the stem was found to be two halves of two differant bike tack welded together  but two tacks had missed the joint the only conclusion  i can come to is that if its done right it will be more than good enough for the job intended