Manky Monkey Motors

 here is my my new trike project  ;D as you my know this was spanners trike which he kindly sold to me. spanners has done a splendid job of building her up to this point. i plan to finish her off, get a new vin number, get her msva'ed, get her resprayed and out on the road.
so here are some pictures of my new pass time.
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and the new owner finding it hard to belive he now has a trike
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 ;D Posing already Craig!

yeah! wait till i get her rollin  ;D

Good to see a happy man.

 :'( :'( :'(

So whats to be done to finish then Craig?

Looks done to me!

theres know deniying mike built a beauty, let me just tell from one new triker to another..you'll bloody love it ;) hope it all goes well for you and she'll soon be on the road ;)

Yes it looks ready to go? What work is left on it?

bench seat or not?

not to much to do. some wiring needs doing and the tank needs flushing and putting back on. i need to print out the msva documents to double check what needs to go on her. think i need to add a couple of indication lights for stuff like full beams, hazards etc. mike suggested a lower profile tyre so will look into that. i think i will try to internally wire the bars to keep them as clear as poss. not to much really. it will be mainly tweeking things the way i want them.
first thing i will need to do is get a new vin. have to find where to apply for that. mate is engineer so has numbers i think i can use to stamp into the head.
dont think she will take a bench, will see how it goes, family are not so sure about going on her yet, think shes a bit low!!. i am going to make a removable pillion seat i think though just in case. am sure they will change there minds once shes rolling. if not lone rider it is  ;D

Link to New Vin plates at

https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrelianthintsandtips/chassis-vin-plates
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Procedures seem to vary from office to office.
I went to my local DVLA office in Wimbledon, South London, filled in a form & showed proof of identity & address, & was given a VIN number there & then. Taz went with me & did the same for her trike build. That was a couple of years ago. Both projects are still half built in the shed, but the DVLA girl said once the numbers were issued, they stayed allocated to us unless we officially cancelled them.

well looks like i have a bright bunch at my local! i phoned them today to check i could go there and get it and what i would need. i said i wanted to get a new vin number for a trike i was near finishing,"is it road worthy yet?" he says. no i answer but i want the vin number so as soon as its done i can book it for the test. "hold on a minuet" he says. after going away to check "yeah what you need to do is get it road worthy then apply for a test" he says.  ???"yes i know, the msva test, but i want the vin first before i do that" says i. "get it road worthy then get it tested" he says" you can download the form, its a v65" says he. thanks i say thinking i have now got what i need. get on the net go to directgov to download form....... no such form number?? &*%$£!  >:( looks like another phone call and fingers crossed i get the right answers before taking the time going there.

You`re better off going down to see them in person, take some ID and any reciepts that Mike gave you for donor parts.
They can give you any forms that they need completed and you can fill them in while you are there.
Try to deal with just one person if possible but be prepared to ask for the duty manager if things get `stuck`.
Be polite but firm and dont take no for an answer! You are asking for a VIN for a newly built vehicle, unregistered vehicle, its their job to issue you with one.

tbones right.

yeah looks like thats what i will have to do. thought i might get more seens from the vosa test centre which is just round the corner. no i didnt! was told to make up my own 17 digit vin number and apply for msva  :o? so yes of to dvla office at some point for a calm conversation.
am planning to start cleaning her down at the weekend and try making a cover for the starter motor thing that threatens to eat your trousers.

That'll be the exposed pinnion gear then.
I think you can make up your own number but not sure how you register that with the DVLA, (I haven't put a trike through the MSVA yet). Any more pointers anyone?

ive been told the same,but off my local dvla ??? then was on hold for ages so hung up     
ps they said it should be 3 letters of you choise first then 14 digets

Ive heard that you can make up your own number,but it has to start with certain letters..SABT if I recall.i let dvla issue mine,as I thought that way I wont have any argument later!

You can put any old thing you like as a chassis number. Just stamp it in and in the box, on the forms, that says chassis number write it down. If you haven`t got a chassis number they give you one of theirs. :o :o :o :o

trike looks stunning good luck with it bud
you will be out and about in no time
and good luck with msva
AL
i don't know if your on another forum but Chris ireland used to put his own desperate dans numbers on his frames we got a phoenix trike off him years ago with them on it
maybe Worth an email if your going down that route

All the custom builders do/did that. Uncle Bunt prefixed with UB and Cycle Haven used CH (obviously. Cuddles trike is registered as an Everett Trike and the frame number starts with EVERETT I believe.

i hope to get over to the dvla one day this week and sort out the vin thing. will let you now what happens when i get there.
had a little time today so cleaned up the front forks with 3in1 and gave her a wipe down  :D. have ordered some engine paint so waiting for that now.
thinking about getting a new tank and then might have to get new bars bent up.

right i am planning to go to the dvla tomorrow so fingers crossed i get it sorted on a lunch hour.
i have another question now. i am looking at getting a bigger petrol tank. only trouble is that because its wider the throttle cable mount is getting in the way. would it cause any problems if i bent it back a bit? i am only trying to gain a 1/4" to 1/2". this is the bracket i am talkie about. sorry for the newbie question. ::)
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It may interfere with the pull on the cable unless you can canter  the plate that the cable pulls on the same amount. May I suggest the usual method of engineering, on this forum, suck it and see. If it don`t work put it back the way it was.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

As Cabman says ;
bend the f**k*r till it misses then see if the throttle is ok .
You do not have to use that bracket in that position .

You can also fit a cable adjuster as per Old British bikes
The following is just one of many companies who supply them

http://www.wemoto.com/parts/lever_cable_adjuster

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ha ha super cheers boys. i will go out to the garage in a mo with a torch and see how much more room i can get out of her. then i can go blow my money on a new bigger tank  ;D

Make a new bracket that turns the outer cable end stop through 90 degrees, and allow the stop freedom to swivel and self centre, that will give you all the clearance you need, Morrag

well that dont work  >:( bent it out the way but now the carb (silver bottle) is in the way!!! aaarrrgh! no bigger tank for me now. will have to get the smaller 9l tank for now. maybe in the future i will have one made up to fit  ;).
right what about handle bars? i want to bend some up but am having trouble finding the right tubing. the 1 3/8" erw (1" bore) and 7/8" pipe are proving a bit illusive! anyone have a source where i can get about 3m of one and 1m of the other? the guy at my local plumb centre looked at me like i had two heads when i asked for it.

 Pipe Centre is probably best. Plumb Centres probably only do copper or plastic

Heres the linkage I built to allow the throttle cable to enter at a better angle instead of vertically.
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 My tank is mounted on the back of the trike,but I've seen a few bike tanks with a notch cut out to clear the carb.

stick a webber on, no clearance issues then

Have a look at this, longer than U need but check out their store.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150765466486?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I just bought that for my handle bars, should come in the next few days, its expensive but I hope it will look the part when painted or plated :)

PS look for tube, not pipe. As I understand it tube is measured by its outside diameter, pipe by its inside diameter. So 7/8 pipe will be slightly larger outside and may not fit your mounts?

1.6mm wall! Crikey mine is about 4.2mm  :o

I did wonder what to get. My current bars aint ev en a mill I don't think.

Put a spacer between the carb and manafold to move the carb out. or try to get one of these

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it moves the carb away from the engine
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and it sits a bit lower
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rod, nice link you made there mate. might look at that.
andyrennison, cheers for that. i will try to mail them later and see if they have 4mm wall tube. good that they do it in shorter lengths. i only need about 48" of 1 3/8" and 51" of 7/8".
terry t, what is that called? and where can i get one? that might give me the space i need for more juice  :)
cheers boys this is helping me lots  ;D

Id use a thicker,rather than thinner walled tube for the bars.

where the bars you have meet the top yolk they are made of solid bar  ;) ;) machined,,

ah cool. the bars on her are cool but if i get a bigger tank on there they might not clear the tank. if i do bend up new bars they will be very simular to the current ones which are very cumfy  :)

So Terry, are you going to tell us where you got it from? :)

It came in a big green box full of parts. i got when i brought a reliant project. ::) also got a reliant weber carb and manifold.

you lucky boy terry t, now i just gotta find me one of those boxes ha ha.

Oh Bugger, do you guys think Ive bought too thin ??

manky monkey recommended 4mm wall pipe to me so thats what i have been looking for. i suppose it might depend how long your bars are! sure someone with more knowledge will let you know.
oh and i went to the dvla today. what a waste of 2 1/2 hours of my life that was!! after seeing 4 different people, and even though i dont know that much i new more than them, i was told to make up my own vin number with 17 characters, stamp the frame then apply for msva. cheers. i have kept my deli tickets from queuing so if i have trouble in the future i can say i went and asked. onwards.

most bike bars ive seen are less then a mm!
manky uses his offcuts for bars remember

The joys of British officialdom! Like I said to you the other day Craig, procedures seem to vary from office to office. I guess as long as they're going to be the same people checking your paperwork at the end of the build, you just go with whatever they say. Get as much info as you can from them in writing though, so you can show it to them if needed & say Well you said I had to do this, this & this...
I use heavy or medium gauge ERW tubing for trike frames -1" i/d. 1 3/8" o.d. That makes the wall thickness a little over 4mm. As Chewie says, my handlebars are made from off-cuts of the same stuff, with sections of old motorcycle handlebars welded into the ends to step them down to 7/8" for Japanese twistgrips & switchgear.

i use 1" o/d 3mm wall CDS for frame and bars, i didnt need to step them down though to 7/8" as i have no twist grip but a foot throttle, i then brought a custom indicator horn switch (excuse the crap pictures)(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g381/lukefrancis777/009-1.jpg)
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bugger! i didnt get it in writing  :(. i have the stubs though and they are marked with date and time and i wont forget the womens faces.
oab is that a carb spacer thing on your trike? did you make or buy it? nice big tank  ;)

buy...buy... :o no i made it  using a few bits i have lieing around, was intending to make a longer one to stick the su out more but ive had to wrap this with exhaust wrap just to keep iceing at bay,its suprising how cold the get with no heat jacket. but seems fine now,  the tank i belive is a honda rebble 125/250cc its not finished yet i added sheet metel to it to bring the back end down but still got to do the side bits and a touch of re-shaping but was a bargian at £10
thers one on ebay at £130 in primer :o

right i have been searching whenever i can last night and today, can anyone tell me please the correct name for the angled carb spacer thing that terry t put a picture up of and that oab made? and where i might be able to lay my hands on one?? am going mental searching! ???

Here ya go Craig.
Ebay.  £4.99

Reliant manifold (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RELIANT-MANIFOLD-ADAPTOR-SU-RIALTO-KITTEN-FOX-REBEL-BOND-BUG-AUSTIN-7-KIT-CAR-/380470524099?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5895cf78c3)

cheers manky but i think thats the same angle as the one on there at the mo  :-\ but will try searching form angled manifold. ta. or if anyone has one like that kicking about give me a shout please. cheers

I'm not actually sure what it is you're looking for Craig.
That's the standard Reliant manifold. It sits on top of the aluminium inlet manifold. The carb bolts to it. Usually the angled manifold's warmed by hot water from the engine, via the 2 pipe stubs in the pic. We usually cut the stubs & the casting they attach to off for a cleaner look. So the angled manifold becomes an S shaped tube.

I think he's after one that will lower and move the carb outwards to clear a normal tank. After months of looking
I ended up making mine out of an iron pipe fitting suitably cut for angle a piece or steel tube and 6mm steel plate.
Not pretty but it works.

thats the kind of thing i am after, your right, to get the carb away from the frame to get a wider tank on. just wanted to know if theres a manufactured one out there because i myself dont have the tools to knock one up.

you cant buy them twisted there very much a home made product, i used 32mm stainless bend from a old zzr600 exhaust manifold my mate left here for too long, i then used 3mm sheet steel for the plates either end. i used most of the stainless exhaust manifold for mytrike exhaust aswell, but if you give some dimentions ile have a look what i have left,and may be able to make one up for you ;)

As OAB has said theres are home made. my one is not a spacer its a manifold adaptor. i don't know where or what is off. it could be from any motor that ran su carbs.
have you got a spacer between your carb and the manifold adapter like Rod has on hes. or is it just the gasket

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330696711442?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

It's probably from an SU conversion for cars that used the old Zenith/Webber downdraught carb like Fords and series Land Rovers.
Looks nice and compact.

Hi...just looking in as an outsider on this thread. If it was possible,Ime sure these could be made in stainless for less than that amount.
All you need is a long reach 32mm elbow, and then some clever sod to laser cut the 2 flanges. Then another clever sod to tig weld em up.Looking at the photo of the set up on the trike,it looks fairly simple to achieve. If a jig was made they would turn out all the same.  ;D ;D

Half the fun of building a trike is making the bits you can't find, can't afford or just to see if you can.
Mine was made with a hacksaw, electric hand drill and an old stick welder and files. Not a laser cutter in sight ;D
Dont get me wrong, i'd love to have access to a mill, flowjet cutter,decent tig etc but you make do with what you have.

I'd better not show you my latest laser cut job then.. Lol

Right steve....you cut the flanges and send em to me..I will order the elbow and tig weld it all together. Job done. ;D ;D

your the best man for the job John  ;)

Sorry but I'm not running a stainless cutting job in the near future.. For a one off it's probably easier to do the ole fashioned way

Any one with a lathe and face plate could drill the flanges to center and bore the holes out to size

cheers everyone for the help. this adaptor thing is driving me up the wall because i cant even attempt to do it  >:(. i have never been near a welder of any kind and next to no tools here or at my place of work.
anyone that could make me one would help me out alot and it would be very appreciated.
i would really like a bigger tank on her to get me further, change the lines a bit and i have the memory of a fish so i dont want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere with no go go juice.
but i have tried to start making stuff for her. with the few tools i have at work ( hacksaw, vice, file and rivet gun ) i have started to make a cover for the starter motor bit that i was told might try to eat my trouser leg.
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once i start her and make sure nothing is rubbing i might neaten it up a bit with fiberglass then paint it.

does the adaptor have to have a bend in it? cant it just come straight of the manifold and go out to the left at an angle?
does the carburettor need to sit at that slight angle to work or can it sit up straight?

carbie is sendig atomised fuel to the engine. curves are best as the fuel may hit a "wall" and liquefy

'tis a shame some of us dont live closer to each other,as something like this could be knocked up by a couple of guys ,even with basic tools,(and a welder!) in a workshop/shed in quick time.

The carb is designed to be at that angle and you should try to keep it as close to that as possible, a few degrees either way wont make much difference though.
You really have to find the tank you want, fit it and see what space is left. Your existing tank seems to sit quite high relative to the engine so if you are after a similar but slightly larger one you may be able to get away with just changing your existing adaptor studs for longer ones and fitting a thick insulating spacer (or two) as fitted to minis etc can't remember off hand how thick they are but about 3/4"-"1 I think". Be warned, new they are expensive, but there are plenty of old minis about.
OR you could fit a rear mounted tank and not worry about the size of the existing tank etc. ;D
PS liking the goose necked frame.
PPS in the photo of the trouser eater guard I think I see a brake pipe below the frame, I suggest you move it to above the brake pivot and bottom frame line, road humps and misplaced jacks tend to crush pipes (and the MSVA man wont like it).

Are these earlier gearbox housings? mine is cast with no hole and a mini/rover starter ???

Yep,  for inertia type starter motors. Nicer lookin with no massive solenoid stuck on the side to dig into your leg.

If you get the inlet manifold from a 750 engine it is 90 degrees around so carb faces from or back depending which way you mount it. I will se if I have any pics of it kicking about but if you use the 750 inlet and the Zenith carb you can fit a standard tank. Well my Jawa frame had a CX500 tank fitted and it cleared okay.

There isn't a problem running the Zenith with the 850 or the SU with the 750, some of these were mixed and matched from the factory. Bet Fifer can give more detail on this

The later, 850 SU carb inlet manifolds have the 2 mounting holes at 90 degrees to the earlier 750 Zenith ones, but it looks like Reliant just adapted the earlier moulds cos there's still room to re-drill & tap for the old position holes.

cheers everyone for the info,am learning alot. will get the tank then measure up for adaptor.
thanks old newbie for the heads up on the break pipe  ;)

Craig, if you go for a "King Sportster" tank, it'd be the same height above the engine as the normal Sportster you've already got but a couple of inches wider, (basically a widened version of what you've got -Taz has got one on her trike project). 
You could buy these 5mm thick plates from Ebay for 15 quid a pair, (check they're steel first though cos the ad doesn't say if they're steel or aluminium). Then all you need is a length of tube with a bend in it. We've got off cuts of various tubes at Loony's workshop, but probably not long enough to fit in the hydraulic bender -need about 3 feet of tube to fit across the forming head of the bender. You could make a cardboard template of the bend & length of tube you need, then you just need someone to bend a bit o' toob & weld the plates on each end for you.
Building a trike, or any other vehicle, with no workshop or shed & no mechanical skills is gonna be tough -not impossible, but every job's gonna be 3 times harder. I'm sure the forumers will help if they can, but it's gonna be ..interesting.   

Ebay carb spacers (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Twin-HS2-Su-Carb-Spacer-Blocks-Mini-Cooper-S-Pair-1300GT-1-Pair-/280960307242?_trksid=p5197.m1997&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16%26meid%3D2252945724858884098%26pid%3D100016%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D120989587007%26)

Why not do it the original way, use extension pieces between the inlet manifold and the head?

Yup, done that on several trikes. Would need some tube & a couple of plates & somone to weld it ...oh, we're back where we started again.  :(

Well........I`ve just got back in from my shed........and it just so happens that I have a pair of extension toobs. ::)

Problem solved! Next!

cheers guys your all to nice. one arm bandit has offered to kindly make an extension piece up for me once i have the tank to give him the measurements  ;D.
unless those extension tubes you have tbone are the finished article and i could try them out?
how did you now the tank i was looking at andy? ??? i have sent the seller a message asking for the tunnel width and depth before i buy it to check it will sit right. as soon as i get the measurements i will order it up if it fits.  ;)
dont worry, i didnt think it would be easy but i didnt think i would get this frustrated  :-\. BUT i wont give up  ;D i will find ways to do it and she will get on the road. thanks to you guys and girls my struggles are greatly helped. thanks again  ;)

Relax and enjoy the frustrations, there are loads more to come. The way I look at it I'm building 2 things. A trike, and my understanding. And the latter will be more valuable in the end..

That is a very good way of looking at it,i never thought of like that

There alloy just got a message of the seller 

Alloy, as in a mix of metals? Or ali as in aluminium? Could still be welded to an aluminium tube though.

True andy all I got back was alloy think ill just get the grinder and steel plate for mine when I get round to it

Whilst I realise the difficulties of not having the gear, or knowhow, so for what its worth, I have always found a manifold such as this easiest made from offcuts of car/bike exhaust pipe, and some 3mm m/s plate, then Mig it up after tacking it and checking the fit. Now all that sounds fairly basic to you experienced guys, but.....you can perhaps see what I mean by the manifold in the pic, which is made from , yep! exhaust pipe cut offs....... ;) ;)Morrag

Nice work Dave

Had an interesting afternoon at the workshop today, making handlebars for Twisted's trike with Craig & Ryan.
A big ol' pair of beach bars. Nice work Craig.  ;)

Nice job MM sir i love beech bars,hard to find them on ebay for sale, if it was not for the fact that i would have to exstend my switch gear wiring not somthing i want to do at the momment i would go for beech bars my self, will add a nice touch to Twisted's trike im sure  ;)

  8) An afternoon well spent

cheers boys and cheers andy. no way i could have done it with out ya  ;). now i just need to get the file out and start filing down the welds , think that might take a bit of time  :o ha ha.
 was a very interesting and informative day spent at the workshop. ryan loved pop to, reccons it might take off with the lump you have put in it  :D.
 didnt see you snap the sneaking pics andy! cheers.
also earlier in the week i received a very nice box of goodies in the post. the rather splendid gentleman that is one arm bandit kindly made me a new carb adaptor pipe so i can fit the new bigger tank  ;D. i think its a cracking job, just waiting to get some spacer blocks to fit it. cheers oab.
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What's this file thing Twisted, you not got a grinder with a flap wheel? :)

Is that a clean workbench I see before me ?

nabism, its a hand tool thing ha ha. unfortunately no, i do not own a grinder or flap wheel but a fella at work has a grinder he will lend me  ;) so then i will buy said wheel to fit and let the fun begin. ;D
old newbie, yes it is a clean work bench but thats the problem! its a "work" work bench not a "home" work bench  :( i have no such room at my home to work. will be grinding in the garden under the security light over the next few days i think.

Buy three boxes of discs , cut off, grinding and sanding for starters.. Lol

Hope you've got a vice in your garden or at least a B&D workmate otherwise be carefull with that grinder :o
No honestly holding onto something the shape of those bars and an angle grinder at the same time is a no-no.

Place on the floor and put your foot on it ? ::)..oops did I say that ?  But don't forget your gloves n goggles.. ;D

i gave up waiting on the guy at work, so went out at lunchtime and bought a grinder   :). they were all out of flap disks though  :(. so will get one off ebay and have to sit and wait for it to come.
dont worry, i have goggles from work and a vice that belonged to my grandad (who was an engineer) that my nan gave me before she passed on. now i get to put it to some good use  ;D.
and my foot when i cant use the vice  ;)

Welcome to the world of the noisy  ;)
Or as my better half and neighbours would say F######g annoying  ;D

Yep that's about right  :D

Iv always been lucky with my neighbours,but then I make a point of helping them with stuff,,crafty bugger . ;D

ha ha, my garage is under the neighbours house, makes things a little interesting at times

Bang clang,thud,crash,shouldn't be a problem ? :-\ after all they are only upstairs ?

liking the bars craig nice and wide is the way forward, keeps everything nice comfy and stable on a good ride, 3 point turns are a swine for me as i can just reach at full stretch guts hanging out at full lock.

cheers bud. i am desperate to get them on the trike and give them a propper go. been grinding them down at work in the vice after hours when ever i can. then drill them and run the cables internally is the plan.
just waiting on a spacer i won on ebay to be delivered then i can get the carb back on  ;D and take pics.

got the spacer and fitted the adaptor.

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cheers OAB  ;D fits a treat.

also ground down the bars enough to fit them in the head.

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sorry they are not that sharp, its a bit dark in the garage.

Them's some big ol' bars mate.

oh yes. Thanks for the help bending them up Andy  ;)

The bars are quite striking..

Damn them's some wide bars :D
Looking good

I do like them bars,they make a statement

I was just motioning those bars whilst on the couch do you have enough wrist action to turn them left and right.. Ooo wrist action here we go :)

We made 'em to fit Craig when he was sat on the trike -he can reach them on full lock with no problems. Personally I'd angle them down a little more to follow the line of the top of the tank. Made from 1" bore ERW with the centre clamp sections & both ends stepped down to 7/8" using offcuts of the handlebars that came on my XS650 when I bought it.

yeah brock my wrist action is just great thanks  ;)
did want them to angle and sit a bit lower but now that i can actually fit them in the head if they were to go any lower they would be digging into my thighs on full lock. trying them like this for a bit and see.
i like things big, helps me look smaller  ;D

Maybe shorten the ends? We can always alter stuff you know.

no worries craig twas a pleasure glad its all ok ;)    jeaus i thought my bars were wide being a few inch short of the over all width but there some right beasts, does make for HELL of a comfy ride though craig a slightly lighter on the steering( though not much on roundabouts and the like still need to "call for the strength of 10 tigers)
looking good ;)

Hello again fellow monkeys. I would like to start the return to my trike build thread with an apology. Sorry for my lack of updates and apparent absence from the forum. I have been looking at the forum on a regular basis and seeing what you are all up to but i have not been updating. Part of the reason has been work and life getting in the way and partly i have been embarrassed at my slow progress at getting my trike on the road.
But i am getting over that and thought that you might want to see what i have been up to. I will include pictures, coz i know you like them, and try and put it all in chronological order. If anyone spots anything i have done glaringly wrong please point it out because i think i am finally close to applying for the MSVA.

I needed a front mudguard so on to the bay of E i went and purchased one i liked. Having looked at many pictures of your trikes and ones in mags i could see that there are a few ways to attach them. I wanted to try and keep it clean looking so i skipped the bandit bar way and made up a couple of stainless steel plates to hold the guard in place.
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I filed the paint off of two lugs that are on the front forks and used some industrial metal glue to fix the plates in place then bolted the mudguard to them.
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Then fixed the speedo guide loop thing to the mudguard and fed the cable through.
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Nice to have you back and to see that you've not given up on the trike. :)
Very neat and unobtrusive mudguard mounting. If the mudguard is GRP, it's a good idea to bond large washers on the inside.

Ha ha ha!  You're not slow till you've been doing it five years and it's STILL not on the road...............    ;)

Looking good

cheers everyone  ;). i might fit some bigger washers to that guard then, ta ON.

Then i decided to change the rear mudguards to kind of match the front one so back on the laptop to get a rear set of guards. I wanted these to stay clean looking to but also be removable without to much bother. Mike had come up with a great way to fix on the guards so i adapted it slightly to fit mine. Mike had put a tapped piece of bar inside the rear bars so i got some strips of alli off a friend, cut and then bent them to shape.
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 By bending them over the bars i could use the existing threaded holes to hold them in place.
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 i then positioned the guards on the bars and marked out where i would need to cut them then dremmeled out the arches. I bought a tub of fibreglass and fixed the two strips on each mudguard.
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Now i just remove four bolts and they slid off.

Very neat look. And the goosneck looks excellent

Just look at the indecent amount of space that man has to work in! 

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Now i just remove four bolts and they slid off.
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Dude

are trikes could be twins !!!!

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ps

if you squint  :P

My god you're right scannerzer! (and dim the lights a bit  ;)). Bikergran I wish that was all my space! Unfortunately I am not Bruce Wayne in my bat cave, it is a communal garage and I only have the one space  :( I must have taken the picture on a day when all the neighbours were out ha ha.

Oh well the same applies to scannerzer!

Good to see your geting some work done on this Graig..... keep it up mate

Hi twisted
what was the industrial metal glue you used, I might be wanting some

cheers zakboy still chipping away at it.
merv the stuff i have is called macroplexx 3295. looks like since i bought it it has been renamed to sci grip sg3295-03, catchy name huh! we call it death glue. you can find it here http://www.glueonline.co.uk/shop/Acrylic_Adhesives.html . its great stuff,comes it a two part syringe. you mix the green and pink together in equal measures, it turns purple, put it on your metal and 5 minutes later its like its been welded. wouldn't use it to hold a frame together, although a friend made a steady cam/gun mount using only this stuff and you can smash it off the floor and it holds, but for smaller bits its great. only does metals though, tried it on plastic and no likey.
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the trike has some nice pedals on it but they were plain metal so would be slippy and mr MSVA might not like that. mike had been clever and they were the size of range rover peddles so back on the net and a set of these were purchased
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then i needed some thing to stop my rims getting nicked so got a set of these shinys

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Thanks twisted

Looking good Craig  :)

That glue looks handy stuff. I have a front mudguard mount broken on the caliper, so only one bolt works. Do you think I could put that stuff round an oiled bolt to remove the broken off part of the bolt pillar?

mudguard mount / caliper ??? photo would be good. i wouldnt glue anything to do with calipers

Didn't mean the caliper, I'm tired, it's one of the 2threaded holes at the top of the lower moving part of the shock, the sidewall of the thread has been broken off. It's only function is to hold the front muddy. It will work with the one, but it's not right :)

I'll take some pics tomorrow.

aha, its the mudguard mount on the fork slider :) first choice would be to tig weld it, as you have one of the two bolts locating the mudguard maybe a good glue may do it....but use caution.

@andyrennison yeah this stuff should do it but like pete says be careful. it goes off in about 5min and once done no shifting. dont put a bolt in till you are certain its dry.
cheers pete  ;)

So goose came over and we got to grips with the wiring. Well i say 'we',he done most of it whilst i done a little bit. i rerouted the cable loom from underneath the spine of the trike to run under the right hand side then up to the headlight/bars. i ran the loom through some black electrical conduit to try and make it discreet and to protect it from damage.
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While stopping for a coffee and chin wag we noticed smoke pouring from the trike! :o Quickly disconnected the battery and found we had managed to melt the coil. Of to the shop to purchase a new one and mount it in place.
 Wiring the hazards caused much head scratching and interesting language so referred to MMM and figured we needed some  diodes. So made these up and wired them in place.
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whilst goose was busy playing with the spaghetti i went to work on my handle bars. again i wanted the bars to be look as clean as possible (seeing a theme developing here) so drilled them out so i could run the light switch loom and the throttle cable internally. i covered the lighting switch loom in snake skin to make it look better and to help against damaged. i drilled all the holes at an angle and filed them all so as to avoid any possible wear on the sheathing. getting the throttle cable through was very frustrating but i was very pleased when it came out tyhe other side and am pleased with the results.
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and as you can see in the above picture an engineering friend of mine made me up a couple of steel bar clamps which were welded to the bars. this was done for a couple of reasons. one is because i was worried about the existing bar clamps having enough grip on my newly made bars and two because i was worried about maybe having reduced the wall thickness to much with my filing. as the new clamps are welded to the new thicker pipe of the bars this solved both issues,although this means the bars are in a fixed position ,which is ok for me.

I like the look of that. what's this "snake skin" you are using twisted?

cheers andy. the snake i have used is stuff we use at work sometimes. its cable managment stuff. nylon braid that expands when pushed and contracts when pulled, like the old chinese finger trig tubes. great stuff. you can find it here on the bay of E  ;) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Braided-Cable-Sleeving-Sheathing-Auto-Wire-Harnessing-Marine-Electrics-/150899408011?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&var=450115825398&hash=item23224e3c8b

Very neatly done sir!
The nylon braid is great stuff as it allows the cables to bend easier than when using shrink tube.
I think it's worth pointing out that drilling a hole big enough to take the wiring as you have done, could seriously weaken normal handlebars.
Did you fit a multi pin connector to allow easy removal of the bars for maintenance etc.?

oh come now ON! you are spoiling the the flow of my story by jumping ahead of everyone  :o ::) ;D (yes i did,you will see soon ha ha)
and thanks i have fitted bigger washers on my front muddy  ;)

Sorry :-[ Will try not to do it again :D

ok so after goose and me spending the day working by lamp light, scratching our heads and turning the air blue we had most the wiring done. the majority of connections on my trike are hidden behind my headlamp which was ok because goose put it back together before leaving. BUT a few days later i removed the headlamp to check something only to discover that unlike goose i dont posses magic fingers. i couldnt get all the wires back in behind my lamp! so i had to tidy it up a bit to make it fit. it look like this
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so being as i didnt have a fag packet to work on ,coz i dont smoke, i grabbed an envolope and bit of card from some deliveries and worked out what to do  ;D

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purchased some of these in various colours and wired them up

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till i ended up with this loom and wired the other ends of the connectors on the trike. the loose ends were to fit on spade connects to go onto things like horns/flasher units etc.

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now if i need to remove my bars or anything to work on i simply disconnect it then reconnect the loom to the right colours. greens my main loom in, red feeds my speedo and yellow comes from my light switches on my bars. the back of the headlamp fits into the middle of the loom so that all the cable goes nicely round the outside and my sausage fingers can fit the lamp back in  ;)

just saw the link to the snake skin sheath you mentioned. ,turns out the shop is only up the road from me in wakefield. seems they have a vast amount of stuff  [[ i like stuff]].. gonna call in tomorrow n loose a few quid...

yes ON is right, i wouldnt try this on normal bars. i have made mine from erw gas pipe that is 1 3/8" diameter with about a 3.8mm wall so i am hoping this will be ok

oooh nice one dobber i like stuff to! happy spending.

got some new fuel line and a new chrome/glass fuel filter
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and got a tax disc holder for when it passes the test  :D. also bought some old triumph grips which i have cut down to fit on the foot pegs to stop my feet slipping off.
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hope you have better luck with chrome/glass filter than i had. mine wouldnt stop leaking and when i "really tightened" it up i ripped the dam threads out....bugger bugger ::)

Where ya get that glass tax disc holder ?

try mightymoto.co.uk  that looks like the name on the package  :)

That tax disk holder looks smart.. Didn't know that format existed. I take it they are legal ?

oh bugger pete! i do hope i have better luck  :(.
stevenbrock i got the holder from the bay of e. cant seem to get into my account at the moment to check that its the same seller but here you go http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silver-Chrome-Tube-Cylinder-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Scooter-Tax-Disc-Holder-/181069518148?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a28959544

yeah i believe so, the tax disc curls in and you can read it all round through the glass.

This is the type of filter / water trap that i finished up using

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRIGGS-AND-STRATTON-ORIGINAL-393169-FUEL-FILTER-WATER-TRAP-NEW-OLD-INVENTORY-/200968034203?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecaa0d79b

Just b careful Pete I got the hem-lok fitting from America they charged me £10-00 post then had to pay £15-00 import duty

thanks for the heads up gazz.
this isnt the actual one i bought, just similar, i bought mine from a uk seller....but cant find a link :(

I had planned to leave my new tank unsprayed until it had passed the test and i could spray it the right colour first time but it was starting to get some surface rust. So before it got to bad i rubbed it down with fine wire wool and three in one oil then wiped over with cellulose. I covered over the filler hole and outlet tap then broke out the rattle can. Just oxide primer to stop it rusting till i can spray it the right colour.
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Wise precaution, although most primer paints are hydroscopic, (they soak up moisture). Any coating's better than none though. I've got a brand new bare metal tank on my XS650 project, but it already looks like it's been dragged out of a swamp.

yeah i was trying to avoid the swamp look andy  ;)
I now needed to fit a brake switch. Bought a mechanical switch but was proving very awkward to fit and get the switch to action properly. Then found out about hydraulic switches so got one of these and a four way junction so i could fit it.
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Then needed to get a pipe flaring kit to make a new bit of pipe to fit so got this.
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Then fitted it all in place and wired it in so it now looks like this.
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and then i Pclipped the brakline to the front of the trike.

Tidy. You can also buy banjo bolts for braided flexible brake hoses with brake light switches built into them. I used them on my last couple of trikes, fitted to one of the rear brake calipers.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/braided-brake-pipe-fittings/goodridge-banjo-bolt-brake-light-switch

NOW you tell him!

It's what we do here!

bracket and provision for switch ,,and possibly the switch was allready fitted  ::) ::) ::) ::)



shouldn,t have sold it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

In looking through the MSVA manual again i noticed that we had made a slight mistake on wiring up my marker lights. We had wired them to come on with the turn of the ignition key but MSVA requires them to be able to be turned on without the key in the ignition. So purchased and fitted this switch and installed it within easy reach of seated position near my hazard light switch.

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Whilst bending up my beefy bars the pipe bender dimpled the pipe. I also had the weld holes from putting in the 7/8” grip sections. Looney filled the dimples with weld so that i could file them down and fill them in later. (sorry about the pictures, phone went funny and low light in garage  ::) )
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So i got out the file and metal putty and went to work. Sanded the spots, filled the holes, sanded the holes then sprayed the bars again. Tip, when using metal putty if you want a smooth finish put a drop or two of cellulose thinners on your finger and rub over the putty, like you use water when working with clay.

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I got myself some wing mirrors but had nowhere to fit them to. Also never having owned  a motorbike or a trike i don’t know exactly where to place them. So between myself and my mate we came up with these which he knocked up for me at work.

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then a lick of paint

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They will let me move the mirrors up and down the bars till i am happy with their position. At a later date if i want i can weld a nut in place or my mate said he could make a sleeker looking set.
There was also a slight gap between my grips on either side where the 7/82 sections meet the main bars. So i covered the end of my throttle and light control in pvc tape, fitted them back on to the bars then got out some more metal putty and pushed it into the gaps. More filling, filing and spraying followed to make the gaps disappear.

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Mirror mounts are tidy. Good progress Sir.

wow, some great work there.

i like the mirror mounts good stuff

cheers guys, much appreciated  ;D

The trike came with a nice speedo that i liked but i needed to have idiot lights aswell. Found and bought this speedo which had the same look but with the lights installed already so again keeping a clean uncluttered look. I  drilled and tapped my bars and mounted it up.

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the trike also came with this nice set of marker lights/forward indicators. i was concerned though that with me sat on the trike if my legs went out to far to the sides that i would block the view of the indicators for the msva. so came up with a plan to go through test after which i plan to put the original marker light/indicators back on.

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so removed them and bought these, fitted and wired them up

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also got these to replace the indictors

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and during tests the flasher unit i had bought failed  :( so purchased this one which straight away seems to work better  ;D

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Sounds like you've been on a bit of a spending spree young fella! So are you getting close to MSVA time?

temptingly close! thats why i am trying to find the time to update the thread  ;D

I like the mirror collar (and the rest!)

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i like these indicators ,the size suits the trike. i would have liked this sort of size on mine but
could not get in led

Not sure that I'd change the lights back after MSVA. Think they look good as they are.

cheers ON. will be keeping the indicators at the front but was thinking to put the other set back on aswell to make sure people will see where i am going  :)

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 ;D NICE!
Judging by the manic laughter, you are well pleased !

Some nice work going on there. I,ve got one of those speedo,s with the led idiot lights built in. The only one I couldnt get working properly was the indicator light. I have had to by-pass that one,and fixed a small normal  light on my top yoke. Did you manage to wire yours up ok?

Fantastic to see it going

Congratulations! Nothing beats the feeling of that first ride on something you've created yourself. Well done mate.

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Yeah, I know it's your old project Mike & you put in a lot of work on it, but you can't take away the fact that Craig's got it up & riding about & ready for MSVA. It's a credit to both of you -& I'm hoping to see it at the Basingstoke Transport Festival this year!

cheers boys. yes i am very pleased to be riding it even if it is only round my works car park. still grinning. only problem is that its at my work now and i have to look at it lots without being able to work on it  >:( :D. few more tweaks and fixes to do then she should be ready for MSVA.
no way i could have done this from scratch so i am very thankful to spanners for the great engineering he has done that is helping me be able to have a trike on the road  ;).
hornet6 cheers mate and yes we did get the indicator light to work for both indicators and hazards. needed some head scratching and some diodes to do it though. if i can help just shout.

Nice one mate! It takes a lot to see a project all the way through, glad you're almost out on the road!

cheers loony. cant wait to be on the road.
mike not sure if my pm's are working but can you tell me what bike the front end of the trike came from please? the seals seem to have perished and i need to get them done for the test. cheers  ;)

have you got the seals out or are you looking at the dust caps ? either way it wont matter what make the front end is
pull the forks to bits and measure seals internal external and thickness and you will be able to match them up
1 size will fit various bikes you will find seals on line once you know the dimensions make of bike not important
 

They look like Honda forks to me,
If the front wheel is a match i'd say Honda bros 600.

honda deuville.

cheers spanners, stumpy and hunter. i can get them sorted now  ;D. stumpy no i havent got the seals out, dont no how to but there is oil coming out on the forks and mate said seals have gone. so i will now take them off and take them to a fella down the way and have them fixed. thanks again for info.

so whilst the forks are away getting done i made my alternator cover.
took some peices of alli and stainless steal.

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bent the alli to make the bracket and drilled some mounting holes.

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then bent some of the stainless, got the death glue out again and fixed it to the bracket.

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cut the other stainless to make the front/lid and bent the tabs over

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more death glue and clamps

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then hehpresto and mounted in place

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"Death Glue"?

chavs welding lol

pmsl  :D :D :D :D :D :D

 ;D Not everyone has access to welders. It works!

ha ha nice one stumpy. yep dont know how to weld and no one i know welds either, plus for a little job like this it does the trick.
Andy death glue is the nick name my friends and i have for sci grip sg3295-03 which is an industrial adhesive  http://www.glueonline.co.uk/shop/Acrylic_Adhesives.html great stuff for small jobs. dries in around 5 min. used it earlier on to fit my front mudguard.

how doe,s heat affect ,,death glue,,  ??????????????

its good up to 200 c  ;D. i was thinking of using this cover to get me through the test then after when i have more time look into getting one welded up.

Some of these modern adhesives are very good. Does no one rivet anymore?

i do!!!
i find a lot of glues strong but brittle, and often only strong in one plane..
we have that glue above at work, im gonna "borrow" some and try it though

i was going to rivet it ON but was not sure i would have enough clearance at the back of the guard for the fan not to hit the back/crumpled end of the rivet.

if this is ali and stainless the it can not be welded o matte how good your welding is

???
Use flat head solid rivets from the inside and upset on the outside.

ah i see ON. i have never used or seen a solid rivet before, only on tv when they have built boats and bridges  :o :). only used the gun ones and they didnt seem tidy enough for this. used them for my bendix guard though, which i didnt think was looking neat enough so came up with this idea.
covered the engine in foil.
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then covered the guard in fibreglass

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left to dry then took it off

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trimmed, sanded, sprayed, sanded, filled and sanded to get this

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then sprayed it and mounted it back up

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i will do a bit more filling and trimming when i take it off to spray the trike in its final colour  :)

That's a clever trick, looks good

Definitely thinking outside the box!

Nice job Craig keep it up young man  ;)

cheers guys  :D

paperwork filled out with check for MSVA. took it the test center and the nice lady said the test guy is in tomorrow and she will ask him when he is able to test and phone me tomorrow with date.  ??? :o ;D

Woo Hoo! Sh*t's gettin' real, as I believe the young people say.
Good luck ol' chap.  ;)

Hope it all goes well

ha ha ha yeah you down with the kids there andy. dont really call myself young anymore though ( ryan just turned 18  :o)
thank you both for the regards though. think i am a bit more nervous about what the DVLA are gonna make of it ,now that the local offices have closed, than mr msva.

I was terrified of putting my truck through the SVA test, but it really wasn't as bad as I'd thought. We were under more pressure because we had a time limit, (they were phasing the old test out & we had to get through before the new, much tougher one, came in. But what's the worst that can happen? You have to make a couple of changes & take it back. No big deal really. Persevere mate -it'll be worth it when you're riding down the road on something that's all yours.

vosa lady called me back today. i am booked in for 8.30am wednesday 26 march  :o :). now the nerves start. need to book half day off and try and keep a van available to get it to the test centre.

So, three weeks of checking against the MSVA manual. ;D
 Hope all goes well for you.

good luck, think you have to arrive with all 3 trike wheels off the ground!

Dukes of hazzard style, Pete??  ;D

Yeah, yelling YeeeHaaarrr!!! -they're bound to pass it.  ;D

Best of luck with the test.

It will pass thou. So nothing to worry bout  ;D

Not quite, I meant with trike on a trailer not being towed in a dolly  :) ::) ;) :D ;D

;D ;D ;D
Unless things have changed in the past year.
You can ride to the test centre providing that you have a suitable driving licence, obtain insurance using the vin number and that the vehicle complies with lighting regulations.
You do however run the risk that if it fails MSVA you may not be allowed to ride it home again.

the manager of our test centre said it was ok to use a dolly because it was covered by the towing car provided it was a ridged towing device ie not a rope

Same with the car test Dave, you are allowed to drive there , and the MOT, without plates. However you MUST trailer it to a DVLA inspection .Obviously with those shut now I believe you no longer need a second inspection ( to check the numbers that VOSA have already checked at the MSVA  ::))

Providing all up weight INCLUDING Dolly is not more than 750kg on an unbraked trailer ...so many car drivers ( or motorhomes dragging another car behind ) drag a car behind on an unbraked dolly without realising it's illegal

All the best with it Craig it....... will be a walk in the park ;)

cheers guys. tweeking a few bits and running it round the work car park to get used to it but going in circles is getting a bit boring.
so i can get it insured and ride it there then? that would save the worry of getting a van from work. best start calling insurance companies.

Maybe get someone to follow you in a back up vehicle with some tools & a few spares -in case anything works loose or whatever & so that you're not stranded at the roadside with an unregistered vehicle, (although it's legal, it's bound to cause hassle while they check if the Police find you).

well, i stand corrected  ::) :)

i have now insured it on the vin number only. went with bikesure on TPFT to keep the cost down for first year. the alternator packed up so changed that. now just tiding some wires and checking over the manual. :-\

getting nervous now,only 17 hours to go  :o :-\

Good luck, hope it all goes well

It'll be a breeze mate! Don't get downhearted if it doesn't pass first time though -a lot of vehicles don't. Took 3 attempts to get my truck through. As I said on the phone last night, if they fail it on anything, ask their advice on what you need to do to correct it. They're not trying to keep customs off the roads, just to make sure the ones that are, are legal & safe. You've just got to grit your teeth & plod your way through the bureaucratic maze. Building it's the easy part!
The very best of Manky luck to you Sir.  ;)

good luck let us know how you get on

Good luck!  Soon be sorted.

All the best for tomorrow.

Well, c'mon then spill........we're all waiting!!!!

sorry guys and girls, i failed  :'(. nothing to major. radius on muguards not enough, filler cap to high, missing lock pins i didnt even know were there, didnt like my reflectors, would like to see the fuel lines a bit further from the engine and some guards made to stop possible fuel leak onto exhaust manifold and distributor. ah well back to it  :-[
on the plus side it was great riding it there and back  ;D. engine up and down so a few tuning bits bit sat nicley at 30/35mph  ;D

Sorry to hear that mate.sounds like they were being a bit picky, but superficial stuff.were you able to re book while you were there ?

That's a shame. :(
Never mind, now you know what needs changing to get it through next time :).
The filler cap is just a matter of fitting a rubber donut around it for the test ;)

Wondered about that ..so the filler was too high on the bike type tank? Im surprised they didnt go for a ..ahem, cough,' long tea break 'while you fixed the probs! Do you have to pay the full amount again for a retest ? Edges could be covered with tape, even the cap bound in tape!

PM me your address and I'll send one of the donuts I used. The leading edge of the mudguards can be covered in rubber/plastic edging/u channel and no they wont accept a bit of tape.
Think you have to pay the full amount again, but not certain about that.
What was wrong with the reflectors?

There's technical terms for different quantities of fail items, yours comes under ' bugger all' , well done !!

On car tests you get a reduced rate retest and 6 months to sort , don't know if that applies with m/cs / trikes ?

What station was that as a matter of interest ?

;D
As you say kapri, failed on nothing of any great consequence.  I was wrong, according to booklet- SVA4 (M), The retest fee is £17.00 so that's good news.

cheers guys. yeah filler cap was about 3mm to high  ::) rod. cheers ON will do. have been looking at windscreen edging,the stuff for motorbike winsheilds. looks like push on with a touch of glue could do it. the reflectors were not reflective enough apparently. will get some more and pop them on. the only edge that will take some sorting is the one on the forks. he didnt like the edge on the arm/lug that must secure some fairing on the original bike. will find some kind of rubber bung to go over it maybe. and have to make some sheilding for between the fuel pump and ht leads,just incase of a leak and spark.
kapri is right, i have till september to sort the issues, defo will not take till then to sort ha ha, and the retest of the issues raised will cost  £17. once i have sorted the issues he said to phone up and fingers crossed it could be retested in 2 to 3 days.station was yeading just off the A312. nice bloke called dave was the tester with an apprentice lad being shown what to look for. he asked if i was an electrition because the wiring was so neat  ;D

I mustve been lucky then, cos they accepted taped up stuff on mine.I noticed stuff at the last minute, didnt have time to rectify, just used tape.

;D ;D ;D
If you are referring to the big lugs that stick out forwards on the bottom sliders, they are the original mudguard mounts. You could possibly cut them off, or stick a ball over them. They might make good spot lamp mounting points :D

That's still a reason to celebrate though Craig! As Kev says, that's bugger all failures. When we first put my truck in for testing we got a list of fails that ran to 4 sheets of A4!
You could fix the problems in an afternoon. The majority of vehicles don't pass first time & at least now you know what they're looking for & why. I have a real phobia of tests & exams, so didn't go into the test centre when mine was done -but it's really not as daunting as you think is it.

You could grind the fork leg lugs off & sand them smooth.
Make a tin plate cover for the fuel pump or even blank it off & let it gravity feed from the tank for the test. HT leads could run through a plastic tube to shield them & tidy them up.
Car Builder Solutions sell reflectors. They specialise in kit car/home builds & a lot of the parts in their catalogue are labelled as BIVA/MSVA compliant. Worth a browse anyway cos they might have better solutions to some of the problems trikes create.

http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/

Woolies Trim sell rubber edging bead. I used it on the guards of my last couple of trikes. Part number R10. £3.50 a metre.

http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/c-322-rubber-extrusion.aspx

What style filler cap have you got? It's a Harley tank isn't it? I'm pretty sure the MSVA requirements are exactly the same measurements as a standard Harley cap, (12mm above the surface of the tank, with a domed top?). If you've got the later style screw-in Harley cap, you can use a flush fit pop-up cap like the one on my Yamaha. If you need it, I can lend you mine. £16.50 on Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chrome-Screw-Type-Smooth-Pop-up-Gas-Fuel-Caps-Cover-Set-For-Harley-Davidson-New-/281065667297?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4170d1bae1

So again, well done chap, you've done bloody well -now get on & get it fixed & back in!  ;D

well done Twisted if i get so few problems when the time comes i'll be more than happy

cheers for all the support guys  ;). was a bit miffed,want to do it first time but like you say its nothing really.
i have ordered some rubber trim stuff so that will be the mudguards dealt with.
have a plan for the guard mounts just need to have a look at work tomorrow  ;).
andy yes its a harley tank but unfortunately its the twist lock one not a screw in one. the measurement is 15mm from tank top and thats the neck on mine without the cap on. dave the tester said to raise the tank level around the filler with a tank protector or rubber donut like ON said.
will do some looking and headscratching about the shields tomorrow.
goose has some spare reflectors.
dont worry i will be trying to get this done asap and tested again  :D. will also mean i get to ride it again,might have to find a longer way round  ;D.
and i will keep my fingers crossed for you scannerzer

I took my mates kit car for IVA recently and it failed on strange things, so trailered it all the way home fixed them and took it back and it passed. First test was £450 retest was £90 plus fuel for the trailer exercise twice, not cheap but had to be done, the testers were actually very good and advised us how to get it through, seems emissions are one of the most common failures. There was a huge american motorhome there and that went into pages of faults.

I think the emissions requirements vary according to the age of the engine. My truck has a 1979 Rover motor & I had a letter of confirmation from a Rover parts supplier, so it only had to meet '79 emissions regulations.
So did you have any problems riding to & from the test centre Craig? How'd it behave in traffic? Anybody notice the lack of number plates?

yeah thats right about the emissions andy. i made sure i told him it was a 78 engine  ;). adjusted my idle screw down just to make sure. when he tested he said 'oh 1.2'. panicked i asked if that was ok to pass. he said on that year i could have gone up to 4.5  :D relief.
riding to and from was great. most nervous pulling out on to the road and the first time i had to put it into 3rd gear. once i was cruising i loved it, big grin and laughing to my self. no problem with having no plates but interested looks from the public and a nod from a biker.
she does something a bit strange though. if i stop in gear with foot on clutch she sometimes stales and clutch makes a bit of a weird noise when depressed. goose says some new plugs and points would be good so those are on the list to buy. cant wait to get out on it again  ;D

all good news then mate you will tick off that short list in no time ... well done i rekon the noise when pressing the clutch will be thrust bearing
easy fix or put up with the noise  ::)

The fun starts when you run out of revs in 3rd and start to wind it up in 4th ;D
As stumpy says, noise is probably clutch release bearing. Stalling in gear with the clutch depressed may be the clutch dragging slightly and needs adjusting.

I agree re thrust bearing.I must say that your first ride on road description brought back so many memories as I read it! To actually get out there and mix it with the traffic is AWESOME! I still love it and have a huge ear to ear grin!

ok so the clutch will have to be looked at in the not to distant future then.
look forward to fourth gear then  :D
yep still have a grin and wanting to get back on  it.
ok so i think i have sorted two of the faults.
fault 1 radius of less than 3mm on front fork mount

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fixed i think

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fault 2 distance between tank top and fuel cap edge greater than 15mm
think i may have fixed this by getting a bit creative with some rubber ;) doubled the rubber around the neck to make sure it is past the requirement.

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what do you think? do these fixes look good enough to you? or should i not go with the creative tank cover piece and just cut a rectangular piece?

'legal' or not, I dunno, but I really like the shape of the motif!

Regarding stalling when ticking over with the clutch depressed , the tickover should be set with the clutch depressed .
Also, with a 15 thou points gap on the distributor , have you set the static timing to around 10 degrees Before Top Dead Centre .
The early carbon thrust type clutches need to be set up with 1/16 inch free play at the bottom of the operating arm and a spring to pull or hold the operating arm in a rearwards direction .
If the carbon is in contact with the clutch at all times , or allowed to chatter on and off the clutch , it will wear very rapidly  right down to the metal .

I notice in one of your older photos that it appears that the floatbowl lid is the early type with only one feed pipe stub and the overflow just pours out of the wee vent .
If it is still the same type , I would highly recommend that you replace it with the later lid due to the fact that , in the event of a stuck needle , the excess petrol is dumped right on top of the hot exhaust possibly resulting in roasted nuts   :o;

https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrelianthintsandtips/carb-stuff/carb-maintenance/su-carb-floatbowl-info
Since it is running the way it is I would do any adjustments after you pass the retest .
By the way congratulations on only getting those minor faults  :)
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Is that a walking stick end? As long as it can't easily come off should be fine.
What you have should be ok but not sure if it should surround the cap.
This is what I fitted for the caps. Was debateable if needed, but I was playing safe. Available from most plumbing suppliers and looks like the image in the MSVA manual. ;)

cheers rod  ;)
thanks fifer, you are the font of knowledge with all things reliant. will have to get one of those newer float bowl lids then  :o
ON not quite,its the end from a microphone stand. i think i will put a hole through it and pass a cable tie through it and the hole in the stud to make sure it stays on. the tester didnt seem bother by the cap itself but with the distance from the top of the tank to the edge of the filler cap. he had a precut 15mm measuring stick thing and mine was to high (measure now it is 17.5mm) said form me to bring the tank level up to less than 15mm.

Whats the mount on the forks for, even with the rubber cap it don't look like 3mm radius, cant you cut it back or put a bigger radius on with a grinder then repaint it

If you're not using the fork leg lug, personally I'd just slice it off & file it smooth.
A lot of older cars had a rubber collar around the filler neck, where it passes through the bodywork. I think I'd use something like this Mini one. 5 quid new on Ebay, with free postage.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/classic-mini-fuel-tank-filler-neck-rubber-seal-14A7057-cooper-austin-morris-/221117286676?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item337b9e0914

Don't forget, it's perfectly acceptable to modify your vehicle after it's registered, (providing it still meets the MOT & construction & Use regs). So whatever you do only has to be temporary.

the clutch in it was brand new and it has a ,carbon, thrust bearing,, its the tick over that is set to low thats causing the stalling  also the carb will now be out of sync as it was set up with a gas flowed carb elbow which you have altered

Blimey is the Yeading test centre still there, I used to take HGVs there to be plated. Lots of years ago, it was in the middle of field then. Surrounded by a housing estate now I hear.

cheers for that spanners, now i know where to start and that i wont need to change those parts  ;)
baychimp, yes its still there and yes there is a housing estate + a B&Q + burgerking + tesco and a closed down comet. are you still round this way?

another problem fixed  ;D

edge of guards to sharp

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not now  ;)

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Very tidy. Edging beads need to be glued in place don't they? Is there a minimum radius for mudguard edges?

there seems to be andy, i think he had it down as 3mm but i dont have the bit of paper infront of me right now. i hope they dont have to be glued on, would be a pain to clean off  :-\. they are on pretty secure but might go and ask before going back or take a tube of glue with me if it needs on the day.
acquired split pins today and fitted them. starting to make guards and get fuel lines out the way.

Soon be done mate.
The reg's are a bit weird. The front of the front mudguard must have a radius of 2mm. Anything that is said to graze the test rollers, like the sides of the rear mudguards, must have a radius of 3mm but edges that hits the rollers such as the front edge of the rear mudguards must have a radius of 2mm. All these are minimum dimensions and do not apply if the edges have a hardness of less than 60 Shore A.
60 Shore A is roughly the same hardness as tyre rubber.

Twisted, no I don't live in the area any more. I still have friends who live in Kingshill Avenue and Greenford. Manky and I have been through the area a couple of times last year on our way to the Ace cafe,and I noticed how much its changed.There used to be a great Hotrod, American car scene in the 70s around that part of West London. Lots of well known people that were into yanks lived in the area,Mopar legend Jim Wilson,the original Harley Bob,Tommygun Ted, Ralph Coggs Big George the engine builder,John Dye to name a few.We had Plymouth Cuda's,GTX's,Super bee's and Super birds racing between the Polish war memorial and the Master brewer at long lane Hillingdon. You live in area of hotrodding tradition and you are keeping it alive well done .

We used to go racing up Yeading lane ? There was a pub at one end of it if I remember  ?

cheers baychip. i didnt know that about the area and i have been here all my life! not far from the target roundabout if your ever passing  ;) plan to take the trike to the ace cafe when she is finished.
stinkey that would be either the white hart at the northolt end or the grapes at the hayes end i am guessing. couple of cameras on there know so you cant do that there any more sorry   :o ;)

There used to be a pub at the end of Willow tree lane. A long road that ran alongside the grand union canal, it was a dead end with the Willowtree pub and a couple of cottages and nothing else. It was right next to the back end of the test centre. Maybe if Manky and I come up at sometime we could swing by and we could all go to the Ace?

I cannot remember the pub name,but it was at the end on the left,driving towards Hayes /heathrow ,with open fields opposite ,I remember upsetting a few yank owners by thrashing them in my Anglia ,he.he..good times

baychimp that sounds like a plan to me, just give me a heads up.  ;)
stinkey that pub then i believe would be the grapes and possibly the open fields you refer to now are home to a  large sainsburys, Mcdonalds, pizza hut, mother care, next etc etc etc  :(. the pub is still there but has a travel inn at the back of it. a thrashing is always nice  :D

Sounds like they have knocked down the borstal that was opposite the Grapes and on the corner of Cold harbour lane.  We'll have to get something sorted for little later in the spring I might even have the trike finished by then. If not there is always Andy's pop it don't take much to talk him into a trip out.

thats a date then baychimp  ;)

so after obtaining some stainless metal sheet, some hours bending, banging fileling and drilling i have made a guard as requested to stop possible fuel leaking on to the manifold. what do you recon?

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 I recon that should be fine for the test  ;) :D
Good job you've wrapped the manifold, otherwise the alternator might cook.
So are you ready to stick it back in for MSVA ?

Why are you covering it up? It's a main feature of the trike seeing the exhaust mmmmm

MSVA  ::) Me thinks it's only temporary  ;)

Why not fit a box over the complete engine and paint a mural of the engine ..should keep the testers happy .? ::) may even start a new trend ?

didn't think of that ON! but like you say lucky its wrapped and yes i think it might change later  ;). very nearly ready for test,just a couple more bits to do. hope to be phoning them tomorrow to book it in again.
steve brock Mr msva thought that fuel might leak from my carb and drip on to the manifold so asked for me to put a guard on to prevent it.
now there's an idea stinkey, i like to be different, that could work  :D

Mr tester wasn't happy that the coil ht lead were so close to the fuel pump. i liked the ignition box so i remade it to completely house the coil and stop any spark getting to the pump.

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Very neat but you might want to check how hot the coil gets.

Shorter leads help to keep things away from the pump.
 ( And your leg  :o )

Are reliants prone to catching alight then ?..ooh er missus!

The following is what was fitted as standard on reliants with the su carb .
Fits between the inlet manifold and the bottom of the heated water jacket .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/350615633975?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108

Sorry im late to the party. Well done on the test and fixes. I like the look of the exhaust cover in a wierd way

ON i am going to keep an eye on the coil and the bottom of the box is open so hoping that air will circulate that way  ;). shorter leads would be great, where can i get some?
stinkey. i hope not  :o
fifer. i saw those but wasnt sure it would work on mine because of the way i have spaced out the carb. by the way i have bought the newer float bowl lid you suggested thanks  ;)
andyrennison. cheers buddy.

right last of the fixes done.
made a spacer bracket to keep the fuel lines away from the engine

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made a bracket to keep the headlight secure and still be adjusted if needs be

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and i put some new reflectors on thanks to mr goose  ;D

now i ask a favour. can you keep your fingers crossed for me tonight please? i phoned vosa and the nice lady said she will speak to the tester first thing in the morning and see if he can squeeze me in tomorrow  :o ;D but if he cant i will have to wait til 26/4/14  :o >:(. so i now have a nervous night ahead of me  ::)

Short HT leads- make them   ;)
Lets hope it's good news for tomorrow then  :)

Crossed em

Even got my eyes crossed for you.

well ladies and gentlemen......................................................

SHE PASSED

thanks to everyone that crossed their fingers for me it worked. squeezed in the retest today at 1.30. traffic there and back but had a slightly longer trip home  ;) with a very big triker grin on my face  ;D.
now on to the next step of dealing with the DVLA. ::)

WOOHOO !
Well done mate  ;D

Excellent !!

brilliant news well done bet your well happy what do you have to do with dvla ? is is reg plates etc

Fantastic. Another one hits the road legally. Well done indeed :)

Well done that man, I bet your buzzing  ;D

cheers guys. yes stumpy i have to fill out some paperwork for first registration and tax discand send to them. then wait for my disc and a form to get a number plate. the V5 could take a couple of months to come through.
merv yes i am buzzing  ;D cant wait to get a number plate and get out on the road. hope they can get it to me in time to go to basingstoke  :-\

Great news ; knew you could do it  :)
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what make and model is it    ::)

well done that man

nice one twisted  :)

cheers guys.
spanners i was going to wait till it was all reged but never mind. i put it down as make Twisted Monkey Spanners and model as Titan.  ;D
so now i am trying to fill out the forms for dvla. question is which one do i send them? v355/4 application for a first tax disc and registration of a new motor vehicle OR v355/5application for a first tax disc and registration for a used motor vehicle?

Twisted monkey spinners -nice touch

CONGRATS well done Twisted.

Yay! As Billy Connolly once said- One more of us, one less of them.
Well done mate.  ;D

Twisted Monkey Spanners  ;D

nice work ON. i see you are gift with a pencil to! is there no end to your talents?
well its down to you and your mates now Andy to get my documents to the DVLA safely. they have been sent today first class recorded see now i have a nervous 2 - 3 week wait  :o :(. just hope that if they have a problem with anything that they phone me to sort it rather than doing it by post.

  :) not pencil, pen and ink.
2 to 3 weeks. Nearly there, but for you, it will seem like forever.
Look on the bright side, soon you will be on the road with a unique vehicle, and it will be all legit and legal. ;D

He's annoyingly talented isn't he. That'd make a fantastic tank badge for your trike Craig -if only we knew someone who can cast aluminium.  ;)

i think it looks great too as MM said excellent motif

Ok, but only one and this is the last. Not quite as good as I'd hoped but it's yours if you want it Craig.

ON i would be honoured to have it  ;D it looks great. thanks alot

application for registration refused. see other thread.
I HATE THE DVLA
super high levels of incompetence.

so whilst waiting for my paperwork i ordered some parts to sort out the mess i had made of my HT leads. got four one meter leads (which i cut to lenght) with the right angle dissy connector already attached and four right angle screw on connectors.
pictures aren't the best but i think its much neater  :D

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Looks a lot neater.    :)
Do you have problems getting to the rear dizzy cap clip ?

thanks ON. its a little tricky but i can push it off with one finger then wiggle it out.
next i am going to wire in a temperature switch for the fan. ;)

Any reason why you fitted the dizzy at 90 degrees out clockwise  ?
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 :) I believe that's what Mr Olds was hinting at.

I noticed that, and also saw how neat the vac advance pipe was coming out parallell to the block. I guess you have to balance looks with acessibility

Just thinking, i guess there is no reason it cant be rotated 90 degrees the other way from normal, so the vac advance id facing forward?????

I would love to say I had a great reason for doing it and to amaze you with but thats the way it was when I got it and thats the way I have left it. Until I looked at ON's picture of his dizzy I wasn't sure what you all ment ::) ??? But she ran ok (apart from needing to adjust the carb and bits) so never thought about moving it. Apart from getting the cap off easier will moving it do/help much?

Nope.
 As long as you can set the timing then it doesn't matter what the orientation is. Having said that, not only does it make getting to the clips a lot easier, but it also allows better access to number two spark plug.
 Don't think it will rotate enough to place the vacuum unit forward as it will hit number one plug.

ok cheers. i will leave as is at the mo but will hopefully be picking all your brains at basingstoke  ;)

forms sent again but recorded now so will wait and see what happens.

so i am a step closer again. had a call from a very helpful lady today from the dvla. she asked me to fill out a V627/1 form (downloadable) and to send all my receipts (originals) and my msva cert (original) and a picture. said they need originals so that i cant build multiple trikes of the same documents. they will send back the receipts but not the msva.
had questions about filling out the form so called her and we went through the form step by step so that there shouldn't be any issues  :o. most helpful person yet.
so i have copied all my receipts, cert and form put them in an envelope and will be posting them tomorrow. which she said could mean that by next weekend i could be out rolling on three  ;D
still crossing my fingers though  ;)

Well the post office web site says the dreaded line again, being processed through the system  :( but will wait and see what it says in the morning before I start panicking to much. Called the helpful lady to say it was on way and she went over to check her pigeon hole to see if it was there  :o. Shes off tomorrow but will call me on Tuesday to let me know if its got there.
So while waiting for that to go through I figured I better have somewhere to put my tax disc when it comes. So I mounted my tax tube.
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Lets hope you get something to put in it soon. What will you use it for when, they stop issuing discs in October ?

MMM stickers

good idea chewie  ;) and when i need to a safe place for parking ticket to be displayed  :D

can anyone guess what this is?  :D

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Hey, he's got a number plate  :D

Come on lets see it please, pretty please, PRETTY PLEASE WITH A CHERRY ON TOP ,oh come on, don't keep us waiting  ;D

horrrrrrayyyyyyyy well done matey its gunna rain for 2 months now and its your fault lol

Cheers guys  ;) yes I am all legal now. As of Sunday I can go on the road. Stumpy I think it might be great weather from now on as we could all do with it and are due it I recon. And coz you asked nicely
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I must now really say some thank you's.
Big thanks to mike for his engineering, frame work and mechanics and for selling it to me. I feel hounred and lucky to be able to own and ride it. Cheers  ;)
Thanks to the boss andy for putting me on to mike so that I could purchase it and for all your help and advice.
Massive thanks to goose who without I would not even been able to consider taking on anything like this. He has helped me every step of the way and put up with me for endless hours on the phone asking him what I need to do and step by step instructions and kept me sane through out. Thanks brother.
Thanks to my mate stef for supplying metal, bolts, nuts and engineering advice.
And big thanks to all of you on the forum who have chipped in with advice and moral support.  Again without you all this would not have been possible.
Thanks to each and everyone of you. I am extremely grateful  ;) ;D

Well done Craig! A little bit of faffing about, but it was worth it wasn't it?
So now we need a list of all the forms you had to get, what order they have to be filled in & where they have to be sent, so future trikers can follow your lead.  ;D
Sunday? Billing Aquadrome near Northampton for the annual National Street Rod Association show then. I'll expect to see you there!

Cheers andy. Not sure I will get to billing on sunday but will be out and about on it. Am gonna try to get to the show you posted about at ace cafe soon though. And I will definitely be putting up a post on what I sent and where to to make everyone elses life easier. Spoke to the helpful lady at dvla and she told me whats what  ;)

The National Chopper Club Diamond Day show at the Ace Café in That London. Yeah, it'll go down well there -& they do great cheesy chilli chips.

Well done Craig, I'm pleased for you :)

Nice one Craig,  There's always the Bike Mega Meet at Popham on the 16/17 August 

super ,just super . have fun

Well done Craig it always seem's a long way before all the work is done then the paperwork but it's the grin factor at the end that counts.

Well done Craig. Get out and enjoy it now,a good job done well.

good job mate now how bout some burnout vids?

Fantastic. Hope you enjoy your first ride out tomorrow. Lets have lots of pics
have a great time on her.

Now we just need to encourage Mr Baychimp to get on & finish his, (he bought my unfinished build). Can you go round & give him a hand Craig!

Have fun tomorrow mate.  :D

Cheers guys. Cant wait to ride it tomorrow. Am sure pictures will follow. Ok trip round to baychimps to be arranged then  ;)

What's the exhaust manifold on that Andy ?

Mild steel tubular, bought from Ebay. I'd looked at making my own then found someone was selling them. 160 quid -maybe. Can't remember. Baychimp's had it blasted & chrome plated, but I know the seller was going to start making stainless ones.

This guy's selling tuned mild steel ones for 175.

Ebay zorst (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Reliant-Tempest-Tuned-Ported-Bigbore-or-FOUR-TWO-ONE-BRANCH-manifold-trike-/130875784836?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e78cdfe84)

Ok guys and girls I'm back from our first proper ride out. There good news and bad news.
Sorry but no pictures yet  :-[ because of the bad news. Just getting comfortable with how it was riding when on an A road doing about 45mph my left leg suddenly feels wet! Look down and there is water and steam chuffing out from the radiator cap  :o got it to gooses house with a few more sperts out tge cap with a very wet leg then she wouldn't turn off. Thought it might be an air lock (I had some pipe off to fit switch) so bled it. Then found that the thermostat housing had a crack in it. Took gooses of his trike and his radiator cap fitted those. Still blowing water over my leg  :o ??? >:( the side of the trike and my jeans look like a plasterer has emptied his dirty bucket down them.
Not turning off we think my be down to  oil getting and staying to hot (was told that may be an issue with where I had placed it) so have moved that out of the ignition box and onto the frame at front of trike.it turned off after the ride home.will tidy it up later.
So anyone got any ideas why she might want to sometimes pretend to be a kettle?
The good news is apart from the above she runs like a dream. Handle bars are rock solid, I had no fear of letting go to change gear. She corners like shes on rails. Got a number of looks and waves and one kid in a soft top car was taking pictures  :) when I wasnt worrying about the water I was grinning ;D.
So shes back in the warehouse till I work out the problem is and fix it.

Hmm.
Different pressure rated radiator cap needed?
Take the thermostat out?
Put the radiator fan on continually or fit a manual over ride switch?
Lift the radiator higher or fit a header tank?

Sorry  things didn't go too well.
Usual reasons for overheating are, Fuel mix too lean, retarded ignition, poor airflow through the rad or poor coolant circulation.
I assume you hadn't over filled the radiator and the fan was working ok. The position of the coil shouldn't cause the problem of not turning off. If there is no electricity going to the coil, there will be no spark. It might have been running on caused by the overheating or an electrical problem.

Sounds like this is an ignition problem,
Engine running on is pre-ignition.
Check the timing.

cheers andy  ;). thermostat is out, i think the cap is 7lb (will check tomorrow), fan switch i fitted worked ok ( come on and off on at 92 off at 84 i think). will have to look at rad hight.
it seemed intermittent, would squirt abit then be ok for a bit. not sure if it would it when i was doing around 45mph or if it just seemed that way because that was the speed i was doing most of the time.

fan seemed to work ok. over filled radiator, might have to look at that  ::) also adjusted some wires and the ignition barrel so might have fixed it that way. coils in a nice stainless clamp now so will see how it goes  :)

This might sound silly but, is the fan rotating in the right direction?

this again i will have to check

Hope this is an easy fix for you.

Me too !
PM sent.

pm received cheers olds  ;)
just so you can see, this is how she looks after coming home

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Looks like rad weld to me. Is it dry ?

Oh dear Craig, that needs a bit of a clean, hope it's sorted soon

Bleed teh rad first. Start it up from cold with the rad cap off until the thermostat opens. The air trapped behind the stat will rise as the water gets hot and will exit in a large burp. Then top the rad back up leaving room for expansion. That's the mistake most people make on an open system. If it has a recovery tank you can fill it to the top.

I've got into the habit of drilling a 1/16" (1.6mm) air relief hole into thermostats that don't have one already. Lets the air past without making any noticeable difference to warm up time.

I can see a major problem in that you do not appear to have the water hose connected from the rear of the cylinder head to the waterpump ?
The Reliant engine is prone to silting up at the rear pot . It can also come from the factory with sand in the casting .
If you do not have the water being recycled and cooler water introduced the water will not fully circulate and super heat around pots 3 and 4 .
Partial cure is to remove the wee drain plug at the rear of the block and , if clear water will pour out ,If blocked it could just be a trickle or nothing at all .If blocked , prod the hole gently with a thin screwdriver through the crud and , after doing that , flush thoroughly  .

I know that some trikes with Reliant engines run ok with the rear hose removed but these are few and far between .
I agree that it improves the looks but personally I would go for Rideability and long mileages rather than looks
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cheers guys. yes i will be fitting the aforementioned hose as soon as i get the parts i need for the job. might be able to get at a couple of robins at the weekend that are being broken so hope to fit after that. will flush it all out before fitting. fingers crossed that fixes the issue and i can get out and about on it. :)

ok i got the bits that i needed. fellow member supplied water pump and rear hose adaptor and i bought hose, clips, thermostat housing, rad flush and coolant. removed rad and fan to get pump of and fitted new one then added pipe so she now looks like this.

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then followed the instructions and flushed the system.
took her out on saturday for first run. covered about 20ish miles. she only coughed about 4-5 times and nowhere near as much as before. so and sunday after reading some posts from here i fitted a temporary overflow/expansion tank using a 300ml pop bottle so i could see what was happening. before heading out looked like this

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covered another 24 miles. got her up to 60mph at one point for a bit  :D. she coughed a few more times and did towards the end of the run just slightly over fill the bottle so it sprayed on my leg again. when i stopped back home the bottle looked like this

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and in around 4 minutes (time taken to unlock building and open shutters) the bottle looked like this

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so i think i will drop all the fluid out and flush with water again.
questions :
is this normal as in spitting fluid?
is it common to need to have expansion/overflow tanks?
any causes for this?
am i going to do any damage by keep riding her?

i have trolled the site over the weekend and am worrying it might be head gasket. partly due to an old post by tbone in this thread http://www.mankymonkeymotors.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6458.msg77818#msg77818. at some point after starting the trike i remember seeing bubbles coming from the pipe in the bottle but cant remember if she was still warming up or warm. i thought at time it might be the air escaping out the pipe as the air expanded in the rad. would that be right? there is no mayo under filler cap and oil on dip stick looks clean as. any other ideas?
still need to set the timing. could this cause the issues?
and whats the test called that a garage can do for it and any idea of cost? cheers again in advance for any answers.

on the plus side....... WHAT A BUZZ i loved it. didnt want to get off but it got to dark to ride in my tinted glasses. had a racer biker pull up next to me at lights and said he really liked it  ;D and plenty thumbs up whilst riding. she is steady and great on corners. getting used to gear changes and happy to let go of bars with left hand, no wobble. was a bit worrying at 60 bit bouncy bit will get used to it and let a bit more air out the front i think.cant wait to get out again.

Water expands when hot, if the system is filled to the top it's got to go somewhere  :) Original rads used to have a marker wire in the neck to show a level . Fill it to about 20mm below the neck and try again.

I know Reliants have a reputation for head gasket issues but before stripping and spending money on a hunch dye test the water for CO2 . Kits are about £10 on Ebay

Amount of expansion and contraction looks pretty much spot on. Run it a bit more to let it settle down.

Once all bled you can expect some small bubble but large bubbles are still air lock or poss head gasket issues.

They're fun aren't they ;)

It can take a while to get all the air out of the system. The change in colour is a bit strange. Seems you might still need to flush the system some more.
What per cent antifreeze are you using and does the air in the bottle smell like exhaust ?

kapri. after reading one of your other posts i looked for a marker but couldnt see one so i filled it to about 20-30mm over the fins in the rad  ;). will look at getting a kit now. i had small bubbles so that makes me feel a bit better, no big burps. and yes lots of fun. still some getting used to but feelling better with every mile.

olds. yeah i didnt like the colour  :o. water was running clean after the flush. will drop the pipes and run the hose through it again then refill. i think i had it about 50-50. the bit in the bottle was more like 75-25 coolant/water. i have not sniffed the bottle, will do that next time i run her out. think i will be getting one of those ali bottles olds  ;)

if it is the head gasket am i going to be doing damage to her by riding her more?

Never had an overflow catch on mine.  If all is good with head, fuel and ignition, the coolant level should settle to a point where it's covering the rad tubes when cold with no more spurting out the overflow.
Shouldn't really ride it too much until you have it sorted, but it's such fun.

Wouldn't worry about the water color too much at this stage. Fifer may know better but i recall my old reliant regal took quite some time before the water became stable and transparent after i rebuilt her engine. Each temp cycle seemed to free another load of gunge into the water. Settled eventually.

cheers for that andy good to know. dropped the coolant out of her again and flushed her through with the hose again. before filling her up with coolant again the usual happened, saw a hole and thought best to stick me finger in there  ;) so just inside the rad in the corner below the filler cap i found.......monkey poo!

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so thats half of what i dug out with my finger. it feels like greasy mud.
put some clean coolant into the overflow bottle and took a short ride down the road, about 1.5 miles. no real cough but water was discoloured when i got back. calling someone tomorrow to see if they have a co2 test kit, if not i will order one. hope to ride her on my lunch hour to go and by more coolant and maybe more monkey poo flush

you want to put some engine rad flush in there run it then flush it out

yeah terry i have done that already with holts 2 step rad flush but think i might have to get another bottle and do it again  ::)

Craig, try some central heating flush like fernox cleaner F3 or similar it wont damage any rubbers or gaskets as its designed for modern boilers. it you lived closer you could have came round and I would have connected it up to my central heating power flushing
equipment that would shift the sludge   

cheers terry will look into that. if it dont shift and i get more confident might ride it down  ;)

I agree, I highly rate central heating cleanser, I put it in use it for a week or so, then flushed it all out, like you I was shocked at what came loose, including a sandy residue. My mate then power flushed it both ways, fantastic job and the engine never gets to hot now. I also use inhibitor now and I'm sure the engine is quieter.

ok i have found someone selling fernox F3 near me. if i get this stuff how do i use it? whats the mix ratio to water?

You cannot overdose this stuff, or use to much to cause damage. I bought a bottle and threw in half of it, my mate who is a boiler fitter, threw the other half in ! I then ran it for a week or two and got it nice and hot, seems it works better when hot. Drained while hot to, seems it keeps the crud in suspension I was shocked at what came out. Good luck.

so hope to pick up 500ml of fernox f3 tonight, have ordered new rad cap and a co2 tester kit. have been running her round a bit more locally, cant resist it, and she seems to be behaving a bit better after the last flush. water in over flow is only a bit discoloured and has some scum on top. but no burps that i have seen and the bottle isnt filling up any more. there are small bubbles that i see coming out the pipe but the test kit i have ordered should let me know where these are coming from. few pops and holding back a touch but still have to adjust timeing so that should fix that.

Well the co2 test kit turned up today so after work I done the test........... :'( not good. Fluid went yellow which means that gases are getting into cooling system gasket gone. Will have to split it and get a gasket kit. Off to find something to drink.

Hope your head comes of better than what mine did

Sorry to hear this Craig, have a look at this I was told it works or your money back
http://www.autosessive.com/products/61766/blown-head-gasket-repair

would you not try steel seal or k seal first just to see if it cures it?

it appears great minds think alike Terry we must have been typing that at almost the exact same time ;D

Had never heard of it before. Anyone every used it? Thoughts on it?

I've used K seal before with good results though it didn't seal a missing section of gasket on a wet linered block on a Honda. Then again it would have been a miracle if it had !

Has anyone tried this.
http://www.steelseal.co.uk/buy-now

Instead of wasting money on gasket sealers . my advice would be to buy something similar to ;  

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Reliant-Robin-Rialto-Fox-Kitten-Top-End-Head-Gasket-Set-Leaded-Engines-/181425706798?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a3dd0972e

Be aware that basically there are 2 types of head gaskets ; One which has a red sealant around it and one as per link above which does not have the sealant
See my site for photo ;

https://plus.google.com/photos/103091462939236424092/albums/5554044222149616865/5883169114695550946?banner=pwa&pid=5883169114695550946&oid=103091462939236424092
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https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrelianthintsandtips/cylinder-head
Info below copied from my site link above ;


CYLINDER HEAD ; TORQUE SETTINGS FOR 850 ENGINE

ENGINE

Manifold Nuts ......................... 5/16 UNF .......... 12 ft/lb - 15 ft/lb .
Rocker Shaft Supports ..............3/8 UNF ........... 17 ft/lb - 22 ft/lb .
Spark Plugs .................................................. ... 15 ft/lb .
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NOTE ; RELIANT ISSUED AN UPDATED TORQUE SETTING AMENDMENT FOR THE 3/8 UNF CYLINDER HEAD NUTS AS PER ;

Cylinder Head Nuts ; NUMBERED 1 to 10 ................. 3/8 UNF ............ 25 ft/lb .

Cylinder Head Nuts ; NUMBERED 11 to 12 ............... 3/8 UNF ............ 20 ft/lb .

Cylinder Head Nuts .................................................. 5/16 UNF .......... 15 ft/lb .

NOTE THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL INFO FROM RELIANT ;
Cylinder head nuts MUST be re-torqued after running in .*

Nuts should be backed off1/2 turn & re-tightened to the recommended torque

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My Comments
Remember when torquing to start at 5 lb/ft then 10 then 15 then 20 and finally 25 { remembering to only torque studs 11 and 12 to 20 lb/ft

I personally would not back the nut of half a turn and I only do 1/8 turn .

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If you torque the cylinder head then wait till you have done the recommended 500 miles , chances are that you will develop head gasket problems !
The gasket will have compressed /bedded in after the first heat up / cool down cycle .

After the first heat up / cool down cycle as above , let it lie dormant for 8 hours or so and then whip the rocker cover off and the rocker shaft and retorque .
Run it back up to hot again and let it cool down .

Let it lie dormant for another 8 hours or so  and then whip the rocker cover off and the rocker shaft and retorque .
Run it back up to hot again and let it cool down .

Should be ready for many trouble free head gasket miles .

What like other members who done a head gasket change and still had the same problems, if its only affecting the water side on the gasket try the sealer

After alot of thought I have decided to pull the head off. Gasket and valve seals ordered. Had to remove rockercover studs and rocker studs then unmount engine and move it sideways to get it out. Now to get it skimmed, valve seals put on then clean and put back together  :)

Hope it all goes to plan Craig, and your back on the road soon :)

Hi Craig, at least you got your head of, I hope it goes alright

cheers guys.
so i took the rocker cover off

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then lifted the head this far but then it the studs were hitting the frame

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had to remove all the studs then unbolt engine from the frame and move it sideways a few inchs to get the head off

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have ordered a new gasket and valve seals. hope to send it off this week to be skimmed, cleaned and the valve seals done then fit it back on. ;D

Number 3 looks OK, others are looking oily?

Has number 3 been cleaned looks like some scratch marks on the valve, the cylinder all look oily, what the inside of the rocker cover like

It's the 'black death' Terry /Craig. Hot running engine ( as designed by factory) but with too few regular oil changes. Used to be a big problem in teh 80s , I lost a 1600 CVH to it with one delayed oil change.

EDIT It's BACK!

http://www.wynns.co.nz/show-wynns-news.php?id=23

none of them have been cleaned yet.
terry t the scratches on the one in number 3 are from someone scratching at it with there finger nail. its that colour because its been burning water apparently. the end of the spark plug is discoloured also.
cheers for that kapri. i am going to clean up the block then when the head is done and back on i was planning to put engine flush through her then change oil and filter.
once thats done i then plan to flush the cooling system again with ferox F3 i have bought.
then i plan to get out and ride her in some of this nice weather we are having  ;D.
in regard to the heat up cool down cycle for torquing of the head are we talking take her for a run hot or tick over in a car park stood still hot?

{ 1 } Just build the engine , torque to the correct setting { 25ft/lb for studs 1-10 and 20lb/ft for studs 11 and 12 } going up in small increments   ,
Start her up and let the engine go to full temp .
Stop the engine and let it cool down for 8 hours or so .

{ 2 }Strip the rocker cover off and the rocker shaft and you will find that the torque will be less than you set it at ; Retorque ech stud in sequence to correct poundage 
Start her up and let the engine go to full temp .
Stop the engine and let it cool down for 8 hours or so .

{ 3 }Strip the rocker cover off and the rocker shaft and re-torque in sequence for the last time { You might not get any movement on some studs but one or two might only be a pound or so out
Start her up and let the engine go to full temp .
Stop the engine and let it cool down for 8 hours or so .

You should hopefully then be able to enjoy trouble free riding as long as you do not reve the b*$$s of the engine  ;D
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PS ; a wee bit more info ;

BEFORE FITTING THE HEAD GASKET ;

BLOCK / HEAD / NUTS / STUDS CLEANING

1 ~ Thoroughly clean the faces on the block and head with a plastic scraper / Nylon scouring pad .
2 ~ Give the sides on all the studs a good rub with the scouring pad as well .
3 ~ Either fit new nuts or thoroughly clean the threads on the old nuts .
4 ~ Run the nuts down each stud with your fingers .
They should all be able to be run down by just using your fingers .
5 ~ If some nuts are tight try swopping them to another stud or run them up and down the stud with a spanner/socket till you can screw them down easily with your fingers  .

CYLINDER HEAD

1 ~ Place the cleaned CYLINDER HEAD over the studs and lower it down gently and slowly to check that it actually goes down freely without jamming .
2 ~ If it is sticking on a stud you could maybe use a rolled up tube of fine wet,n,dry paper through the stud holes in the head to relieve the sticking or some fine wet,n,dry paper on the unthreaded part of the studs  .
3 ~ When the cylinder head does go down , gently ensure that it goes metal to metal with the liners on the block .
{ The head will not touch the block because the liners should be sitting proud of the block by around 4 thou }

4 ~ Remove the cleaned CYLINDER HEAD .

CYLINDER HEAD GASKET

1 ~ Carefully fit the cylinder head gasket over the studs ensuring that they go down evenly .
2 ~ If the gasket is jamming at any point you might need to open out the hole in the gasket a TINY bit with a fine needle file .
3 ~ Ensure that the cylinder head gasket is fully down .
4 ~ Check that the holes in the gasket line up with the holes in the block .
5 ~ If some are obstructing a hole in the block by more than 1/4 you can either decide to leave it or open out the hole in the gasket a TINY bit with a fine needle file .
WARNING
DO NOT TOUCH THE HOLES IN THE GASKET WHICH HAVE RINGS AROUND THEM .
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One other thing on fitting alloy heads. It is a good idea to clean out the head stud holes thoroughly to remove any existing corrosion.  On final refitting I add a coating of copper grease in the holes to help prevent future problems. Don't apply to the studs as it may get pushed down onto the gasket as the head is lowered.

Any more news on this Craig

Head is away being cleaned and having new valve seals put in, doesn't need skimming  ;D. Been cleaning the bits I still have when I can.  Hope to get head back tomorrow. Have gasket waiting.  Need to open some of the holes up as a couple cover the holes by half. Get a torque wrench at start putting her back together.

Hope this goes well for you Craig

so i got my head back today with new valve seals fitted. now looks like this  :D

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didnt need skimming in the end  ;D
now i just have to try and put it all back together  ::) :P

Remember and prefit the head to the block without the head gasket to check that the head goes all the way down and rests on the top of the liners metal to metal .
Beware to gently lower the head and do not let it clatter down onto the liners .
If sticking rub a wee bit of wet and dry over the studs and /or roll a bit of wet and dry into a cylindical shape and run it through the stud holes in the head .
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That's looking a lot better

ok gasket and head placed back on top all good. need a hand to bolt engine back to frame then will start torquing it back down. just double checking the three nuts on the out side lower section of the head on the distributor side they get torqued to 15 ft lbs correct? cheers.

Yep , 15 ft lbs side nuts .
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ok i have started to do the head. all twelve nuts on and torqued down. now put the rocker arm back on but cant get all the pillars down to sit flat with the head!?they are close but not on it ,1-2mm up on some. am i doing something wrong is is this right and i just need to tighten them down?

after looking at it and fifers site i might have seen what i am doing wrong! do i have to wind the tappets back to let the whole assembly drop down? not very well explained but i hope you get my meaning. then i can carry on putting it back together  ;D

you are doing ok mate the tappets need to open a valve or 2 so tighten down and compress a few springs but if your worried slacken off the locck nuts as you will have to do clearances anyway
 

cheers stumpy. i will carry on tightening them up then  ;D

Hi Stumpy
Wondered were you got to, how's the trike coming,
Sorry Craig for hijacking your thread

Come-on  Craig have you got this back in and running yet ;)

Sorry guys and girls been busy so been going back together slowly. Shes back together and had her first warm up today and is now cooling down. Will retorque tomorrow and warm again.  Goose came over and set the tappets. Sounding better now. Also fitted an electric dizzy and the water pipe to the rear of the engine from brocks trike whilst she was in bits  ;D. Slight water leak from the pipe but that will be fixed when I take the rocker off tomorrow. Also spotted a leak from the rear brake drum tough so will have to fix that next. Getting there though.

glad to hear your winning

Soon be back on the road then. Hope the brake shoes haven't been contaminated.

i hope so to but will have a look and check  ;)
second torque down and warm up done. cooling again.
water leak fixed. tightened nut and added a bit of ptfe tape.

Sounds like its going in the right direction, keep at it Craig

you tested this out yet Craig, nice run up the a40 round m25  ;D and back
that should settle it down  ;D

Craig , was there much of a difference in the torque from the initial torque down ?
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well last torque down done  ;D was planning a short run terry but i am not being smiled on by those above as it is chucking it down here so will have to wait till lunch tomorrow  :(.
fifer not sure the difference was massive but i think there was a bit. was nervous, felt like bomb disposal to me. but i followed your instructions and i think i have done it right.
my temp expansion bottle is still fixed to the side and the good news is there are no more bubbles coming out of the overflow pipe  ;D. after a run out i will try doing another CO2 test seeing as i have the kit now. there was a bit of jiz under the rocker cover when i removed it but not panicking yet as i think it is just from the water that got into the oil when i removed the head. first run will be to halfords to get more oil and engine flush so after shes flush and fitted with a new filter i will look again.
she seems to sound better and is ticking over nice now and needed hardly any chock to get her going.
so far i am quite pleased with my first round of what i would call propper mechanicing  ;D fingers crossed she will be good for many miles now.

Nice one mate ;) haven't you got any wet weather gear ::) :-*

Result! if you fancy a long run there is a cup of tea waiting in North Manchester :)

no terry i havent bought any....yet  ;) but its looking a bit better today so at lunch i hope to be off to buy oil and engine flush.
and andy not ready for that just yet but might take you up on it in the future  ;)

ride out at lunch time went well  :D. there was a bit of steam/smoke from the filler and the trike got as excited as i did as there was some goo on the rocker cover from the spout  :o ;) but i am sure this is from the water from the head change. bought some 20w 50 oil and engine flush so tonight or tomorrow will put that through, drain then new oil and filter and see what she does.
guys at work say she sounds better already  ;D

Fully qualified mechanic now then Craig -could you nip down & fix my truck for me?
Congratulations dude. It was worth sticking with it & getting it sorted wasn't it.
Bet your mates all wish they had one now!

Ha ha I wouldn't go that far yet andy. Would love to help if I could just get away from work at a decent hour.
Most think I am slightly mental but two of them want one.one of them is planning to have a guy build him one for his house in goa. Keeps reading my magazine's and taking pictures of her  ;D
Yes I am pleased with what I have done,I just hope I've fixed it.
Put the engine flush in then jacked the front up slightly and have left her overnight to drain. Tomorrow will put on new filter and fresh oil. Will also remove the rocker cover and clean out any foam in there then  if its not raining go for another ride  ;D

good you got sorted hopefully once and for all

all sounds promising, hope it all goes well Craig

cheers guys. only taking her on shortish runs at the mo but looking good. small drops of fluid coming from the breather but have attached another temporary bottle to catch whats coming out to check it. whats in the top of a standard breather cap? there is nothing in mine, its a straight hole out.
so i have the ferox F3 stuff to flush the cooling system but how do i use it? do i put it in with just clean water and run it or is it ok to leave the coolant in and add it to that?

Craig just drain some water out through the engine drain plug then pour the
fernox  f3 then run it the circulate the f3 then ride it with the f3 still in the system

cheers terry. will drop a bit out and throw the stuff in then  ;D

Go for it. then get some miles on over the week end, come rain or shine  8) ;)

got to take her out today for abit of a run  ;D up the A40 and out to ivor. pushed her up to 65 mph. got thumbs up and waves from passers by. say a can-am rider parked up on side of road and stopped to check he was ok. quick chat and off again. WHAT A BUZZ. cant wait to get out again.
bit of oil on the rocker cover but will get some rubber O rings that should fix that. only other slight issue (well i hope its only slight) is when i looked her over after there seems to be a bit of oil around the gear box. is there a gasket or seal for this? and whats it called so i can find somewhere to order one from. cheers.

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thanks again for any advice  ;)

Glad the run went well and that you enjoyed it. Riding a trike is such a hoot.  ;D
Is the oil coming from under the ball, or from between the top cover and box ? Also is the reverse switch hole plugged and have you checked the oil level ? There is a gasket between the cast cover and the box. It's quite stiff and actually covers most of the aperture in the top of the gearbox, with just enough cut away to allow the bottom of the gear lever to select the gears.   
I had no real loss of oil but I fitted a CV boot over the ball anyway just to keep things clean.

Cheers olds. I think it is coming from both. No idea what or where the reverse switch hole is so dont know that one  ::). Have not checked the oil but will do. Migjt get a new bottle and refill. Will phone reliant parts world tomorrow and try to explain and see if they have that gasket.
Finding any reason I can to ride. Made the family drive in the car today while I lead the way on the trike to the other halfs aunts house.  ;D

Nice one , that's the way to go Craig  :)

Yee harrr!! Get out there & enjoy the fruits of your labours mate. Well done. Hope you & your machine become a regular sight around your corner of the Capital.

Its great to see that your enjoying it, after all, that what its all about bud. Excellent ;D

Cheers guys. Dont worry andy I am already getting spotted. Chatting to the guy in the news agent,told him I had got my project running and showed him a picture to explain.  "I saw a nutter the other night on one just like that" 
" theres only one like that so that nutter would have been me" says I grinning like a loon  ;D

 ;D excellent

I'm the same Craig, any excuse to use it :)

might have to come out your way and go for a ride then :D

Sounds good to me :)

Popham mega bike meets 2 day events on in august,  ;)

Yup, a big meet, (bike show & autojumble). 6 miles from Basingstoke on the Andover Road. Well worth going to.

Usually one or two trikes there.  ;)

will look into that then and see if i can get there.
came back from holiday and took her out for a spin. loved it  ;D. then bought her back and whilst still hot i dropped all the coolant with the ferox in out of the system. WOW. considering i had already flushed it through some really nasty coloured stuff came out with lots of bits floating in it. the rad when you look in the top now looks alot cleaner. filled her up again and took her out for another quick ride.
problem now is after leaving her over night came into work this morning and there is some oil on the floor under the front. torch out and looks there is oil coming from the lowest pulley on the crank case cover  :o ??? ::). guessing i am going to have to get my spanners out again.

I'm having that exact same problem but I'm going to try seal rejuvenator first

Ok how does that work? Have you still got to have the front of the engine off?

no you just add it to the oil,if the leak is because the seals have gone hard due to lack of use
/age then hopefully the leak will stop,its not a miracle cure but will help in some cases but i did buy a seal on ebay just in case for a fiver

5 minute job craig
 

No Craig. you put it in with the oil it helps to soften the old oil seals and stops them leaking ???
is your leaking from the crank seal or the gasket it may also be from a bolt not done up tight

oh ok. pretty certain its not the gasket. the line of oil seems to be coming from the center of the pully but will try and have a better look at lunch and check on bolts  ;)

Changing the timing cover oil seal shouldn't be difficult, just a pain! Main thing to remember is not to tighten the cover bolts until after refitting the crank shaft pulley.

will try and remember that cheers  ;) ordered new seal,timing gasket and water pump gasket so will do that in the not to distant future.
got carried away today and ran out of fuel 300m from work  ::) worked up a sweat pushing her back in the mid day heat  :o ;D

300 miles from work?!

I've got to buy exactly the same gaskets & seal for my V8 this week.

Have a wee look at ;

https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrelianthintsandtips/timing-pulley
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think i had the same problem but wouldnt seal with new seal in. was told to get a sleve which goes over the shaft which was worn . makes the seal fit again

Well done Craig you'll be up there with pro's for engine rebuilds and now all sorted you'll have a grinfactor of 10+ and it's great when you have people with the know how to guide you through and the tips and tricks of trike building happy years of riding and no issues.

Hi Craig. Did you get this sorted or are you riding it and just keeping an eye on the oil leak. 
How's the water expansion heating problem it that all ok now with a nice clean internals
 

Terry I have not fixed it yet. I have the parts but like you say I have been riding when I can and keeping an eye on it. Hope its not the shaft.Might try and do it next week.  Hoping to go for a ride tonight then to do another co2 test to so that all is ok. No more bubbles in the overflow bottle once its warm and no more coughing up of coolant into it either (think I have the levels right now). Done one before I went away which came up positive but the ferox stuff was in there so I am hoping it was causing a false reading and not that I have other issues.  Infact the ferox may have done such a good job that I now have a small leak on the right hand side of the rad I think! K seal the way to go it seems from reading other threads?
Will let you know how I get on.
Andy luckily that was only 300 meters and not miles  :o others wise I would have been more than sweating and very late for work. Filled her up and ran her and I think I am getting about 44 miles to the gallon. Does that sound about right? I got about 88m on 10 ish liters but thats not all open roads so a few more test runs to figure it out. Does anybody get much more than that out their reliants?
Cheers saex69.
Fifer I have and your site is now booked marked and checked  ;)

50 mpg on a run on CBR carbs ! ;D

sorry its been a while. i have been riding her around whenever i can  :D. i done the CO2 test again and she is all good  ;D. looks like the F3 was giving the false reading and the work i done is OK. have not done the oil seal yet but hope to do that soon.
have another small problem. i fitted an electric dizzy (the one from steve brocks trike) but i have oil leaking from it. coming up the shaft (ooer) and running down the side of the engine. anyone had this or ideas? have tried changing rubber seal on shaft but still leaking. am going to try and get another thicker one and see if that helps.
also wanted to check if anyone knows the thread size of the temp sender on the thermostat housing? think its 5/8 unf but wanted to double check.

Yep temp sender is 5/8"-18 unf.
Are you sure that you are not getting slight crankcase pressurisation. Would explain leaking seals and oil working it's way up into the dizzy.
I know a lot of folk don't fit the pipe from the breather to the carb, but the slight negative pressure it creates helps keep the oil in.

craig,,, what oil are you running in her  :-\

The Reliant quality control in machining the hole in the block where the distributor fits in can vary by a good few thou . ,The complete electronic distributors supplied by the various companies can also have a few thou difference .
The problems arise when an undersize distributor body is inserted into an oversize distributor hole in the block with the result that any slight pressuring in the crankcase can cause an oil leak and the opposite when the electronic distributor is to big for an undersize hole in the block .
I have found the the latter is more common and the distributor body has to have some meat removed to enable insertion as per
https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrelianthintsandtips/electronic-conversions/electronic-distributor
Scroll down to the section near the bottom headed with ; Rare Faults and Remedies 
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Olds. I will try connecting up that pipe and see if it helps.
Spanners. I am using halfords vintage 20/50w oil. Thick and green like olive oil  ;)
Fifer. I will have a closer look at the gaps and look at fitting a washer.
If I've got a big hole and thin shaft  :o any ideas on a fix? Metal putty and file it back?
Cheers guys

Do you have the standard Reliant breather cap with the gauze still fitted ?
If blocked it causes back pressure in the crankcase .

If it is the standard breather cap , check if it is bunged up by removing the cap and , away from the engine , turn it upside down and pour petrol  into the gauze .
The petrol should pour right through in a steady stream .
If blocked  , rinse thoroughly until the petrol runs through easily , dry and refit .
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Doing that might be enough to stop the leak from the distributor hole .
A thin " O " ring or gasket under the clamp plate might help as well .



 

Is it not possible to machine the distributor body to accept an "O" ring?.Morrag

every reliant dizzy I own already has an O ring on there, try a slightly thicker one?
nothing silly like too much oil in there is there?

update. removed the dizzy and found that the new O ring we had put in had split  ::). so put a new one on. whilst at it i put a washer under the bracket that holds the dizzy in place to space it correctly and also took the pipe from the breather out of my catchment bottle and connected it up to the carb. one or all of those three things seem to have cured the problem  ;D so far no more oil down the side of the engine. onwards and upwards  ;) cheers again for the advice everyone.
strangely although i only live about a mile from work it seems to be taking me 45mins and about 20 miles to get home  ::)

;D
Glad to hear the problem is sorted and that you are enjoying using the trike.

 ;D Well done lad -just what it was built for!

Well done Craig

Glad you got it sorted.  happy riding b safe
Gaz

I have heard the traffic around the A40 is bad  ;D, glad you got it sorted Craig now you can enjoy riding it  8)

Making good time rather than quick time hey! (Thanks to Robert Pirsig for that insight)

making good time i like that  ;D
fitted a temperature gauge and the temp sender it came with today so i could keep an eye on things. have a problem. after fitting i took her out for a run and the gauge read 110 before my fan kicked in but i have a fan switch fitted which comes on at about 90! because she is not blowing water out the rad ,as i am sure she would if the temp was actually 110, i am guessing that either i have done something wrong or the new sender/gauge is faulty? any ideas?
sender and gauge are earthed to frame at same point as fan switch. one feed from sender goes to one terminal on gauge, live to gauge from the coil nearby. i have then looped from the live and earth to the terminals to make the gauge light come on. anyone see anything i am doing wrong there?
this is the gauge i bought
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171126336749?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

may try taking the supply voltage from a voltage regulator or sourse rather than the coil as a varing voltage will give a false reading the other thing is to check what the temp actually is,we fitted a guage similar to this in Alans camper and it read high we had to put a variable resistor in line with the sender and set the guage to read what the temp was on the external guage ,in this case my multimeter

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http://www.etbinstruments.com/ETB_Gauge_Wiring_PDF/52wire3.pdf
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If changing the feed doesn't help it's easy to add a resistor and they cost pence from somewhere like Maplin.
Run the engine until the gauge shows what you think is the correct running temp. remove the lead and check the resistance at the sender. Then run the engine until the engine reaches actual operating temp  measure the resistance again. The resistor value you need is the difference between the two readings.

cheers guys. have ordered a variable resister, voltage regulator and a thermometer (to check rad temp) so just waiting on delivery then will try and correct the problem. cant do much today as somethings gone twang in my back  :(. off to osteopath in a mo.

Ouch!

Crunch.

That's not good

Hope he ccan de-twang it :)

Snap crackle and popped it so a bit better but spent the day off work swallowing pills and putting ice on my back. He freed up the top of my back but have to go back later in the week for some more work  :(

better off twangin' yer front, methinks

Anyone remember rainbow :)

here it is the episode about the twanger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgbcQIT7BMc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgbcQIT7BMc)

And no, it isnt dubbed, it was an internal christmas special for the staff at ITV. There was a time when people had fun at work, and inuenndo didnt make you some sort of social pariah

its always good to play with your twanger  ;)
fitted the variable resister and all is good  ;D bought a thermometer to double check the temp and that the temp switch was opening at the right temperature. tweaked the resister up and down till it was about right then placed it all in the pod.
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Result  ;) ;)
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Pod tidies it all up.Nice one mate.

nice job and now you have so peace of mind

That's neat Craig.  where did you get the pods to fit the temp gauge.

Good work Craig

cheers guys  ;)

terry i got the pot from the one stop shop bay of E  ;).

this is the pod http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281089995507?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

and this is the gauge http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171126336749?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

the gauge came with a collar fitment for putting it into a dashboard which i had to file down abit to help it fit in the pod but it is in nice and tight now. i also needed to buy an adapter to make the new sender fit to the engine.

i followed olds advice and fitted a pipe from my breather to the inlet on my carb but i think it has been putting a bit to much oil steam into the system because it doesn't have a filter like the original.
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so i got a few bits to make one. wire gauze, wire wool and some roll pins.
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cut off some of the wire wool and put it up into the breather to help collect the oil
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i cut the gauze to the right size and doubled it up to keep the wire wool in
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then i drilled two holes across the width of the breather and put the two roll pins through to keep all the above in place and to prevent it from falling into the rocker. the drill bit curved abit so the pins arent quite where i wanted them but they do the job
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so hopefully this will help it

PM sent Craig.

I had a couple made a few years ago, then someone here began producing them -Doc?

That looks like the one I got, did you get that from a certain one legged person  ;D

pm received cheers mate ;)

yep this breather makes it much easier to attach a pipe and feed it away to another point.

yes merv it did come from a nice monopedal fellow  ;D

for anyone else that tries a similar mod to this i have learnt it would be best to drill your holes BELOW the O rings. if drilled above the O rings it might let air into the carb/system causing the engine to run lean which is not good.
i have corrected this on mine buy filling the ends of the roll pins in with metal putty and then filing them back so hope this works out ok now  :D

my brake seemed to be staying on a bit and catching the front disc so i bought a spring and made a bracket to help pull the rod fully out of the cylinder.

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thought it was about time that i got rid of my clear drink bottle/expansion bottle.
so i used my lunch hour and fitted nitrosoxide  ;)

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 ;D ;D ;yeah, right!!

 ;D So how's it going now Craig? Still riding it? Still grinning?
Still displaying a tax disc I see -you know you don't need to now don't you?

whats going to happen to all the people that manufacture tax disc holders, all out of work now?

I wondered that. As someone suggested, you could use your car tax disc holder to hold an emergency biscuit. The Police suggested using it to hold a medical information card in case of accident. Maybe you could fill the glass tube type like Craig's with emergency tea?

I've been wondering who used to print them,Must be a loss of work there.

I had a batch of MMMotors ones made. A dozen of 'em, just to see if they sold. They did. Maybe they're collectors' items now!

yeah still riding it everyday to work and when the weather isnt bad i run it out at lunch time  ;). just trying to tweak the engine and get her running at the best she can.
yeah i know its not needed now but as i have the disc i will leave it there till it runs out then frame it maybe  :D. might use the holder for parking tickets or holding emergency spare change.

I have a glass holder like Craigs. I'm going to use mine as a emergency Brandy holder.(medicinal purpose's only of coarse.)

Looking good mate, glad youve solved the niggly probs, takes time but worth it for the ear to ear grin factor! Like the NOS addition ;D
Also like the pod for the gauge.Been looking for something like that for mine.Used a towball cover on one gauge, but cant find another that matches! Being a tight git, Im looking for a zero cost answer!

after going to the popham meet where i saw a harley roadking i think, i decided that the front of Titan needed to get abit beefier.
so i found so new head light mounts, fitted them and wired in some new lights. would have liked them all to sit flush but dont think they look to bad.

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neat

Looks really good

thank you gents  ;)

Good to see you today Craig. The trike looked good. Hope the journey home in the dark wasn't too cold  :)

Shame I didn't get to see you or the trike this time. Hope you had a safe journey home.

yeah really sorry dave. i would never have found you in the dark without my sat nav (must fit one)  :(.
yeah andy got back ok. eyes a bit watery with the cold wind finding a way in my goggles but all in all a good run. 107 mile round trip. ;D
think the O ring on the dip stick might have sorted the problem but weather permitting i will run her round on a lunch hour to see as i couldn't see it in the dark.

Its good the hear its running ok now Craig. are you doing the Ring of Red on sunday the lights look smart see where your going now ;D

i didnt know about but i am at a wedding saturday night so dont think i will get there  :( will see if i can get home any earlier as i would like to take part

A nice pair! They look good mate, just right.was recently thinking about adding some to mine, but the price outweighed the wanting! I admit Im a cheapskate!

know what you mean rod. thats why i got the wallet friendly £12.50 pair of lights ;)

Sounds like a bargain mate.Are they the plastic bowl ones?

yes mate they are. thought that if i didnt end up liking the look i wouldnt have lost to much and if i do like them i can shop around for metal ones  ;)

Where did you get them? Didnt se any that price when I was looking.

they come from the place that stocks all. the bay of E. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111349822788?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT item number if that dont work is 111349822788

Thanks for that mate.

taken awhile but finally got round to fitting it. cheers Dave  ;)

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 ;D

TWISTEDMONKEYSPANNERS  :)

cheers.

just so i keep all my stuff in one place fixed overheating/rad problem in " new mini/robin radiator "

so i have been having problems lately with getting the trike started. battery would keep going flat randomly and would need to jump her to get her going again. thought it was a lose wire or bad earth draining it but turns out i have stuffed the battery  ::). looks like a combination of vibration, high input and high drain on a bike battery does it no good.
i was told about a battery brand that someone was running that they recon would start a tank.
so some looking around and reading i obtained a new oddyseey pc680 battery.
these batteries are used by the militry, to power small planes, jump start cars and run upto 3.5 liter high compression race engines so i hoped it would run my reliant  ;).
they use 99.99% pure lead cells and they are sealed in place top and bottom to stop the plates vibrating and shorting out.

purchased it from these guys after calling them to ask some questions. spoke to a very helpful guy who new everything i need to know and didnt talk to me as though i was a complete moron, which is nice.
http://www.powervampracing.com/
and this is the battery itself http://www.powervampracing.com/odyssey-pc680-battery.html
ordered and delivered within 24 hours. super service.

 i thought the battery i had was small but this is shorter in lenght and width and only 7mm taller  :o
put it in and started first time and has not dropped below 12.8 volts since.

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Just has a quick look on there eBay site, nearly dropped me laptop when I saw the price of one   

Sounds look good advise to me Turkish

Yes they are not exactly cheap but you can not much less for a small car battery from halfords which is bigger and which wont last as long. These have an 8 to 10 year life span.
Also if your short on space in your build these batteries can be mounted any way up apart from upside down.
I believe brock had a similar battery in his trike.

did you ask what they a like for storage say over the winter if you need to keep them charged up?

think they are good. if you have no drain on them ie alarms etc then i think they will last months and then still start up your trike.
i think he did tell me in more detail but unfortunately those details didnt matter to me as i have and will continue to use mine as a daily ride. i was more worried about cca and the vibration elements of the battery.
their web site is good or give them a call for more details, they really are helpful and polite.

had a couple of these, seems pretty good, plenty of power, but no better if left stood in my garage through the winter as any normal battery,
as for extra power? dunno, all my vehicles start well, so not tested it.....

I have had one around 6 yr, an still ok,
but, had a normal battery on the bmw for 11yr, and the zrx lasted 7 or 8 on the standard, so its got a while before it impresses me yet...

battery and rad plug seem to be behaving themselves  ;D.

the leaky front crank oil seal however has not been  :(. it started leaking more oil and spraying it up onto my rear mudguards.
i had planned to change this when i stripped her for spraying but seems she had other ideas.

so thanks to Fifers web site i have managed to strip the front and fit a new seal and put it all back together.
short run out ,due to crap weather, and all seems well  :D. nothing fell off, rattled to loudly or sprayed oil so i think its all good.
 
looks like better weather today so will take her out on my lunch hour for a run and try to get the underneath jet cleaned so i can check properly for leaks from the seal and anywhere else.

Sounds like you're getting into the swing of regular maintenance checks now Craig. Always better to pick these things up early rather than leave them until something goes wrong in a big way.  ;) Glad you're getting some miles on her now.

yep, fifer has a fantastic repository of knowledge - Good to hear you sorted it

well i thought i had sorted it  :-\ but there seems to be a little drip appearing at the front down the timing cover. :'(

so i have ordered the speedi sleeve and plan to fit it tomorrow. really hope that sorts it.

Hope you sort it Craig.whats the sleeve fitting over then? I did a sleeve on the rear crank seal, and fitted a slightly larger rubber oil seal to compensate.Still got a leak somewhere on the front of sump, gonna nip up the sump bolts and live with it.

Rod , the sleeve fits over the front pulley to cover any wear grooves where the seal fits over the pulley .
Info on my site at

https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrelianthintsandtips/speedi-sleeves 

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Ah, I see now Pete.

i have fitted the speedi sleeve. after writting this i will be going out on her, 25 minutes out burger 25 minutes back and see what happens. after about 4 runs like that if there is no oil on the timing cover i will be happy.

the pulley shaft looked like this when i took it out. i could not see any groove worn into it the first time which is why i left it but guess i was wrong.

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and this is what you get in the box. the speedi sleeve and a cup-like tool that you use to hammer it on with.

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went back on ok.
so now i will take her out and see what happens. :-\

i give up  :'(
there is oil coming down the timing cover after one run.

Craig..sympathies mate..Did you replace the oil seal at the same time? It could be torn etc from the old pulley grooves......Have you centred the t cover to the shaft when originally building it?...... Maybe the sharp edge of the sleeve has torn the seal? I used a larger diam seal when I did my crank seal, took A LOT of care fitting it, but still leaked.

i put the new seal in and before tightening the timing cover bolts i pushed on the pully to centre it. only done a few miles (around 20) and noticed a small leak so got the speedi sleeve. didnt fit a new seal as it had only done the 20 miles. removed pulley, cleaned, light rub over, small amount of silicone sealant on shaft and hammered on the sleeve.replaced.

the leak at the back seems to have got worse to  ::) :'( i am really hoping that is just the sump gasket.

Think you may find the rear one is the crank seal unfortunately.Im tempted to drop my sump pan and redo the gasket, but I cant be arsed! As I was told on here..these engines aint perfect, so just live with it.We probably wouldnt be so worried if the engine was in a reliant, but cos its on show it looks crap, so it becomes an obsession to stop the leaks.And dont I know it mate, its deffo made my illness worse by worrying about it.Riding it was great fun today, even though I ride alone, so sod it.

As said these engines aren't perfect and the lip type seals leak to a small degree even in a perfect engine as the lip is lubricated by the oil but it shouldn't drip. If the seal and shaft are in good condition, it suggests excess crank case pressure. The breather pipe to the carb should stop this.

Breather pipe that runs from oil filler to carb?

ok i have calmed down a bit now  :). was having a bad day.took her out for a bit of a run today.

cheers olds, i have reconnected the breather pipe to the carb. i removed this previously to see if it was the cause of blackened spark plugs. i know my plugs are ok now so pipe back on.

i tightened up some of the bolts on the sump and that leak seems to have slowed/stopped  :D happy days. will give the underneath a wipe down and hope to run her out again soon and see if the leak continues.

i might remove the pulley again if the leak persists and either try knocking the sleeve on more or remove the flange. the sleeves flange did not quite meet up to the pulley, 0.5mm ish gap, so thinking that might be pushing on the seal and deforming it causing it to leak?

will see what a couple more runs do.

I had a oil leak when I first built my engine, after spending ages trying to track it,thinking it was from a gasket, I found the sump pan had a pinhole in it.Soldered it up, now ok.So dont rule out thin sump metal Craig.
Ive run a pipe from the breather on the rocker filler hanging down side of engine tucked between alternator and block.Blanked off carb.
Hope you sort it Craig.

i have a monumental leak behind my front pully these last few posts are not cheering me up  ;D

Any pressure , whether excess or normal , is relieved through the rocker cover vent .
If the vent is blocked by gunge then back pressure occurs and it will seek the easiest route out .
Try rinsing the breather cap in petrol .

scannerzer im sure yours will be fine mate, just me probably being a bit kak handed  :D

i couple of days ago i was worried about that fifer so i used the airline at work and blew through the pipe and filter i made  ;)

im going to order a new sump gasket and oil filter but thinking what to do about the front seal.

so remove pulley hammer sleeve, push seal in a fraction then refit
or
remove pulley, remove sleeve flange and refit
or
remove pulley, fit new a seal and possibly one of the above fixs on the sleeve

thoughts please guys

then i have to deicide whether to do it straight away or wait till i take the engine out when i get it spray but that wont be for at least a couple of months

When I fitted my rear crank seal sleeve, I minutely checked the flange edge for sharp areas , nicks etc.then I taped up the edge of the sleeve with a layer of  plastic elec tape, then greased the seal and the tape.left a bit of tape as a tail, so that after it slid in I could pull the tape off without the seal pulling inside out.hope this helps , it may work.

thanks that might help rod  ;)

update.
seems i was a bit to quick to judge and that i didnt do to bad a job  ;D. the crank seal has stopped leaking. i have done a couple of runs, around 50 miles, and there is no more oil coming down the the timing cover. and there is hardly anything at the back of the engine either.
so through a combination of tightening bolts, new seals, speedi sleeves and reconnecting the breather to the carb i seem to have stopped the oil leaks  ;D.
thanks again guys.
i am know hoping that tomorrow morning i can take her to get the mono-shock set up welded on.

You have checked there's still oil in the engine haven't you?!

Mono-shock? tell us more :)

Seat suspension?

Must be, surely, perhaps. That or some radical new forks he's been keeping quiet about. :)

yeah cheers andy i have checked the oil and there is some in there  ;)

yeah it was a planned seat suspension mono-shock......but it has not worked as planned. :(
the seat has ended it to high and because of the single point fixing feels abit like sitting on a ball bearing, to much side to side movement.
cant angle the spring any lower to get the seat height down as it wouldn't be doing anything and would get trapped under the seat anyway.

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its just got a few spot welds holding its at the moment.
so the new plan is to buy some more metal this week, cut it to make new brackets and mounts, then go back on saturday and redo it using two shocks. this should make it feel more stable. plan to angle the shocks backwards and higher up the back of the seat which will help lower the seat/ride height.
am sure i will get there in the end  ::) :D

that shocks not got enough angle to work  ???

agree,neeeds to be nearly vertical.

Not quite as easy to get right as it looks is it. The front pivot needs to be fairly wide to restrict side to side movement. Moving the shock mounting point on the seat further back and up, to between or even behind the mounting bolts and move the frame mount back as well may give enough distance.
I was lucky in that I had plenty of room. My seat does move side to side a bit but I like it that way.

no not easy. that was attempt 2 and still not there.
like you all say the plan for the shock is to put it more vertical and the mounting point on the seat will behind and above the mounting bolts. that will hopefully let the seat sit lower and flatter.
just wasted my lunch hour looking for metal off cuts  >:( one place shut down and all others to busy to help today or to far to get there and back in time  :(. another run out tomorrow then to see if i can get the bits i need.

Nice day for a ride though mate.   8)

It was and today was even nicer  ;D would have been super if I wasn't sitting on a seesaw.
Still got out at lunch and got some off cuts of angle and plate so I can start making the bits after work and hopefully go back on Saturday and finish the job.

Hope you hit the right formula Craig, could take a fair bit of trial and error mate.Ive got scissor type standard seat springs on both my seats, spent several hours messing with them.Also have a gel pad on the rear seat.
Dont knock the see saw effect...plenty of excersise for clenching!Swmbo will be amazed at your prowess  !!!!

ha ha ha.
well got round to do the welding for the seat. ;D took abit of fiddling around and trials with blocks of wood and shock positions but got there in the end.

cut and ground out the previous work. i had cut and drill all the bits up before going there. welded the tabs to the new seat back. i drilled holes above and below the mounting holes i had planned to use just incase i wanted to move it up or down in the future.

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then welded tabs to base plate and fixed that in position

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mounted the shocks and rode home. next gave it a lick of paint where i could and now looks like this.

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i am a happy bunny. ;D the seat is now a lot lower and closer to where it was originally. with the two shocks on it doesnt wobble side to side and i feel safe going round corners. haven't been able to go to far yet,been busy at work, but plan a ride out on my lunch today. but i can already tell the difference on the short run to work. three bumps that used to rattle my spine are now just lumps in the road  :) when i do hit bigger bumps the seat stays under my bum rather than me flying in to the air and coming back down on to it.

Looks good mate ;) just right for the ride to Basingstoke on may 10th 8)

cheers terry and yes spot on for Basingstoke  ;) will be good to see everyone again and pick all your brains.

Looks a lot better Craig, good job.
Basingstoke?

The festival of Transport Rod. all the monkeys will be there  ;D well nearly Sunday may 10th. it in the event calendar.  be good if you can make it so we can see your trike and meet you ;)

yeah come on Rod. if you go round the m25 anti-clockwise we can meet up and ride down  ;)

Craig you interested in Popham mega meet. back there again this time in the main area and not the car park  ::)
I got some passes for trikers, your welcome as well Rod ;)

possibly. is that 16th august?

Yes it is all day ;)

Sorry, dont look inthe events section much.

extreme plans are being made  ;)

Ooo-errr! Do tell.

I know, sorry cant tell :D

What's that? You want to swop for my cx. Fair nuff. :)

I making plans too!  Popham is not so far from me.....

Pass is sat here with your name on it BG   :)

How extreme is extreme ? Would that be, slightly extreme, or extremely extreme ? :)

Rebuilding it as a Mad Max quadricycle, with scythes on the wheels, twin bazookas & a flame thrower?

Sorry not quite mad max but pretty extreme.
In the not to distant future,date not set depends on work and parts but fingers crossed by mid august, I will be removing the engine and gearbox to be replaced with a new one. Not reliant. :o
Plans and deals still being made but will keep you posted.
So if anyone is planning a new build and is looking for a reliant engine and gearbox with a load of spares, new and custom bits give me a shout.  ;)
Once a few more things are finalised I will put an ad in the for sale section with a better list of what will be sold. Will be offered here first but if not takers will offer out wider.

"Not a Reliant"?!!
Burn the heretic! Burn him now!  :o

I thought that might be the response  :'( ;)

Should be interesting, but I still say that a supercharged Chevy big block wont fit in that frame. ;)

Well we will see what happens  ;)

No, but a 160 bhp k series would

Hope its not started till after Poham ;) or its finished and running so we can see it 8)

you only thought that ,, by now you should have known it ,,tut,,tut,,,tut,,, :( :( :(

the new engine has been delivered and all looking good so far  ;D
check out the for sale section.
terry i hope to have her done well before that so fingers crossed you will get to see it in the flesh  ;)

So, when are you (from now on to be known as the twisted heathen) going to let us know, what could possibly replace the sacred Reliant heart ?

ha ha ha not sure. might wait till its in and let you guess from the pictures moohahaha.
twisted heathen has a good ring to it  ;)

eerr somthing missing!  ??? :)

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Yep chainset and a set of pedals.

Oh Gawd -the madness has started again.  :P

ha ha ha. hope to have it done and back on the road soon.

We are waiting agog and aghast to see what monstrosity you plan on fitting.
Hope you get it done soon as it would be great to see it at Popham.

plan is to have her done well intime for popham and to have put a few miles on her before that  ;) ;D

nice to see you went green with the glider engine , good for the environment and cheap to run
 ;D

Only about five weeks away. Just to put a bit of pressure on. :)

five weeks would be fine. the pressure is we will be trying to get it done by tuesday  :o failing that it all the tweeky bits should be done within two weeks. vroom vroom.

I hope you got something stronger than that chav weld Manfat snot you did mudguards with ! Lol good luck chap looking forward to seeing it done

yep no chav weld being used this time round ha ha.
well its well under way now. not done yet but not to long.
here are a couple of pics to cure your curiosity.

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these bits are surplus to requirement.

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plans have changed along the way so i will probably have a few things for sale sale soon, like the lovely tank,fuel cap and reserve tap so watch the for sale section if you need some things for your build.

Radical.
PM sent.

I'm keeping quite..but can't wait to see it ;D

V8 with blower ;D .   ??? that workshop floor look familiar?
 keep up the good work popham not far away now  ;)

 author=terry t  that workshop floor look familiar?

Now you mention it Terry I'm inclined to agree with you
 

Worshop floor familiar? Yes, but theres another clue there as well, or do i mean not there....

Yes i cant see it ;)

Looks like you are keeping that georgeous swan neck. Good, that defines the whole machine :)

yes the goose neck is staying and should end up more noticeable in the new design  ;)

all going well. hope to be riding her at the weekend  ;D
heres a picture to keep you going  ;)

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you are just not being fair  :)

What a tease! Nice uniform bends for a hydraulic bender.

oh ok just to keep you happy heres another picture. going to be part of the exhaust  ;D

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That's just mean  :P :

He's making a new croquet set. Thats just a couple of hoops he has bent up.

Come on then Craig. weekends here what does it go like and a photo for Merv ;)

you leave me out , I'm quite capable of SHOUTING for pictures for myself  ;D, come on Craig PICTURES  ;D

ok ok ok. due to needing a few more parts and waiting for them to be delivered she is not quite finished yet. but she has been started and sounds sweeeeeet  ;D.
very close now.
should be finished by next weekend and will put some proper pictures up then. she wont be painted in her final colours but will be up, running and on the road.
here are a few more pics to keep you going till then.  :D ;)

we had to do this

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and will be fitting these

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that should help. i bet you have all guessed what is going in it and what she will look like now  ::) :D

Well I know what the new motor is, so should sound nice. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Stix

Gsxr 1300 hayabusa engines alway sound nice

This is starting to get a bit like a spy novel ? He.he..

its hard keeping secrets from you lot!
i really would like to show you all but hidden it for this long so may aswell just hold out a little longer  ;)
but i will show you a pic of a new fitting.

my new mudguards. steel and strong enough to sit on...... but god help anyone that does  >:( ;)

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I suspect everybody will be scouring the picture for clues ?

Got it. wire and switches in a previous photo. dyson in the last one. its a hover trike. no ok  ;D

Looks like he's thinking about mounting the seat, 'side saddle' ???  Is the engine really that big there's no room for your legs or is there
something you've not been telling us Craig.  :D

He may of had an accident with the grinder,hence the side saddle methinks ? :-[

Waiting .....

Still waiting......

Well any news  :)

ladies and gentlemen your wait is over....well sort of  :)
she is finished to a point. the engine is in and working well. drove 180 miles home on her today and she done it smoothly, easily, fast and loud  ;D. needs some filling still and painting in the future plus still need to add a pillion seat.
you will have to wait till tomorrow for the final reveal as its very late and i have to put all the pics up on to photobucket but i need to get to bed.
but you can see what has been put into her and ,as i am sure most of have already guessed, by who  :D

she is now running a suzuki vx800 V twin lump.

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and it was shoehorned in there by the wizard of weld and lathe that is MR stumpy  ;D

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right im off to bed now and have to think how to reveal the finished article.
do i show you her finished straight away of build pics first  ::) ho hum  ;)

Sounds like it going to be ok all that way home with no problems :)
cant wait to see it on sunday at popham ;)

Oooooh. Nice.

yep cant wait to get to popham either terry  ;)

right so lets sate your thirst for pictures.

to start with we got a deal on the V twin because the top two engine mounts had been broken when it was being removed from its original frame.
so before any of the other work started wizard stumpy got out his magic wand ,oo er missus, and welded/magiced some new mounts up out of thin air.


then after i removed the engine and we got the trike down to his mystical cave we set about tweaking the frame to take the new lump.
tested for position and blocked in place with temporary engine mounts.

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the first of some strengthening parts put in to tie it all together

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round about now we realized that the original tank i had bought was not going to work. it looked a bit odd perched on top of the engine and i wanted more fuel capacity. we toyed with the idea of splitting and widening it but in the end we went with the original tank from the suzuki. the original bike had a twin back bone so thats what we set about putting in.

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now this is a very shortened version of what happened to get it to this point. there was alot of head scratching, smoke blowing, cursing, trial and error fittings and a whole heap of magic wand waving to get to the next picture but not all of it was caught on camera.so after all that it looked like this.

the front with the rad filler pipe coming through.
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and from the back in ruffly the seating position.

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nice shiny engine mounts  ;D

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all strengthened up with engine mounts and spacers put in. space had to be allowed above and behind for the carbs, filters, coils, ecu etc.
now the tank could be put in position and tried out.

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bit of an air gap between the tank and seat area but the wizard had a plan about that.  ;)
nearly forgot we also had to split the diff to flip the internals instead of flipping the axle because the rotation on this engine is the opposite to the reliant one.

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and as well as turning up engine mounts the wizard also created some new foot pegs for me  ;D

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then a way to get rid of the exhaust fumes had to be figured out. stainless pipes were decided on to avoid rusting and that they will look nice when they have bronzed and blued up.
right side

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then the left side had to be done. this side caused a lot more problems. it had to avoid the rad pipes and also a fitting that i wanted in place which caused stumpy no end of headaches, a gear lever, but more on that later. so after more smoke and wand waving he created this. ;D

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thats two 60mm stainless pipes but it sounded like a jump jet taking off when started up so he installed a couple of baffles to take the noise down a notch. she now has a nice bark but will only annoy neighbours for two streets instead of five  ;)
more pipe was bent and one steel mudguard cut into two to make new ones.

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back up the top of the engine the carbs need to breath so filters were bought along with silicone pipe. one filter lives under the tank and one comes out backwards under the seat.
as you can see the room was needed under the tank.

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so how you doing so far? that enough pictures for you? well its going to have to be for a minute as i really have to go and do some work.
still to come is are the finished pictures and the dark arts of my wonderful gear stick and linkage.

That is looking good Craig, great work by Stumpy, I think what has been done makes it look mean ,what was a good trike has been made better

Please tell mr stumpy that he may find that axle will be a bit heavy to use as his new leg ?  He.he.but great work guys.. ;D

cheers merv and stinkey, i will let him know ha ha  :D

right you ready for some more?

so they seat had to be moved to a new position so the spring mounts were cut out and the seat remount with the springs vertical which will help them work better.

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never having ridden a motorbike and because i want to keep my bars as clean as possibly what i really wanted on my trike was a foot clutch and a gear stick.
though i know now that stumpy wishes he never said that he could do this due to the hours and hours of stress and work it caused him he has none the less fitted these for me  ;D
i am very happy with them and pleased that he did. im still getting used to the clutch though as it is alot lighter and shorter than the reliant one.
the lever and linkage is genius. the major issue was getting the pivot points right to have the lever go forwards and backwards but to rotate the splined gear shaft around correctly ( i wont have explained that well or right probably but again the wizard worked his magic and got it right).
i cant really show you pics of the lever with out showing you the whole trike  :o
so are you ready?
TADA!

my nice new gear knob.

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gear lever and linkage

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right side of the engine

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gear knob in place and new fuel knob ( original was ugly and huge. waiting to see if the reserve works) as you can see stumpy welded onto the back of the tank to create new lines for it to flow into the frame and seat. not easy to do for someone like me with tree trunks for legs  :D

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and heres what you have all been waiting so patiently for, hope you like it and its been worth the wait.

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well what do you recon?
i LOVE it  ;D shes loader and pulls my big frame round like a steam train. covered 180 miles yesterday with no issues, just traffic to deal with. my favrite gear at the moment is fourth at about 52mph, the engine hits just the right note at that speed and when the throttle is tweaked she roars and zips away  ;D.
think she now fits her name a bit better  :D
still a bit of filling work, a radiator grill to make and a few small bits to fit before paint but shes good to go.
then fit a pillion seat and done.
just need to figure out what to do about the stupidly big grin and far away look in my eyes now  :o ;D ;)

i must thank mr goose for materials and time donated  ;) :-*
and MR STUMPY THE BUILDING WIZARD  :-* :-* ;) i can not thank him enough for his time, effort, skill and putting up with me and my suggestions. a gentleman and a scholar you are sir  ;)

hope to see a bunch of you at popham and will be happy for you all to have a closer look and listen to her.

oh and just a couple of pics i took with an app on my phone

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Awesome, simple as that, love it to bits. Well done all concerned, yours enviously, the coppersmith (retired) ;D ;D

Top marks to Stumpy that looks the Boll**** mate. cant wait to see it on sunday 8)

Your welcome you twisted custard chucker lol I hope you get as many hours of fun as I did grieeeeeeeeffff lessons learnt note to me never get a CPU without plug 8 pins no reference to what pin anywhere I think it's nearly right Twas only running on 2 when it left,here ! Second note to stump suicide shifters are not on menu but after nearly a month of 12 and 15 hour days I cracked it would have been quicker to make new frame me thinks every piece is mm perfect only one way off or out for most of the components the radiator looks like it grew there now the shed looks like a monsoon been through it time to tidy up got a small project of my own to finish and a new one to start keep smilin mate and ride the heck out of it

My, haven't you boys been busy.  :)

http://vid288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/scroat_01/WP_20150801_008_zps2m8qycql.mp4


first fire up not a bit of smoke from engine its been laid up a while so all good

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Fare play, Stumpy has done a cracking job, you got a mean looking trike there Craig, what an improvement .

maiden voyage


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Well done guys. What a difference.

Looks good on the move.  8)

Looks blooming fantastic. Have a better look at Popham on Sunday. :)

Looking cool dude

looks brilliant,the tank reminds me of alien's head if your looking for a themed paint job

Well done Craig. You really have made it your own now. Brilliant engineering by Mr Stumpy, another very clever man.

Nice to see that the 'old skills' are not in fact...dead :D.......tidy Mr. S....Morrag

thanks alot guys. really enjoying riding her just want to be out more. maybe move away further from my workplace  ;D

Dorset is nice..only 1hour 40 mins to northolt ?

Very very very nice. Did I mention  very?. Good one guys.

brilliant job and sounds sweet , well done stumpy , sorry,  sir stumpy .. ;) ;)

Might be a little to far there stinky but will think on it  ;)
Cheers andy and goose  ;)
Noticed a little bit of oil at the bottom of the diff today from where we had split it  :o.
Cleaned it up then remembered that when we had it apart we looked over the axle but could not find a breather hole. Never remember seeing one.Think it might have been sealed over with weld or paint.
Thought it could be building pressure and pushing out oil!
Got a 2mm drill bit and put a hole in the axle tube to let it breath, will find a split pin to put in it to help keep crap out. Gave the diff a lick of paint to to help seal it to. :)
Have started to make a grill to protect the rad.

before going to popham at the weekend i made and fitted a rad grill to stop stones smashing in to the front of the rad. galvanized steel grill and push on rubber edging.
also had the tank off for a bit of sanding and spraying. you can see the all thats been fitted skillfully under there.

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putting the paint on has helped show up where i need to do more work and will help stop it rusting while i do it  ;)

Good to see you out on it yesterday young sir 8)

Great to see it at the show mate. Massive change and looks good, but you are still a heathen heretic !  ;D

thanks gentlemen, great seeing you all and a heathens not that bad  ;D been called worse. just glad you all still spoke to me  :)
well i need to fit a light for my alarm and a temperature warning light as one was fitted on the original bike. bought a couple of led's and made a new bracket to hold them.
wired and heat shrunk them in.

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only thing now is after putting it all back together my marker lights are flashing with my indicators  :o :(. will be looking at it on my lunch break and after work.

nice looking .the high tank looks good

cheers scannerzer  ;)

sorted out the markers going off with my indicators  ;D nothing to do with what i had just put in but part of the old loom. hazards still not right, still going off like a strobe at a rave but think the flasher unit might be faulty so will get a new one and fingers crossed that will fix it.

well with some time over christmas decided it an ideal opportunity to get to now my engine more intimately  :o ;)
she has had a problem with oil going missing when i do longer harder runs, 120 miles + at motorway speeds. compression was down a bit to. suspected that the valve stem seals might be to blame.
so before christmas purchased full gasket kit, rings, oil, oil filter, sealant and clutch cover (old one had a hole which had been filled)
so after a good friend came to help and 17 hours graft we had the engine out, stripped, rings in, valves lapped, gaskets in, back together and back in the frame. :P ;D
am running her in a bit but she already sounds better (not sure my neighbors will be keen on that  ;D) give it a couple more weeks of running in then will do a compression test to check and a long to see if she has kicked her oil drinking habit. fingers crossed.

Hiya Craig. Nice to see you back matey. Sounds like you've been busy!

cheers andy. always lurking and looking in  ;). yeah have been busy at work and then squeezing in time to do the trike. hoping the issues are sorted now/soon so i can get some paint on her.
ps belated thanks for the card  :-*

So since the engine rebuild she has had a bit of a stutter round the 50mph mark and at a couple other speeds. After a few trial and errors seem to have it sorted now, new air filters with some filter oil on them.

Today after work I decided to see if what I had  been hearing and feeling on the trike after the work we put in was true by doing a compression test.
Was  nervous doing it as I was worried there would little or no improvement.  Before the overhaul she was about 180psi on one and 155psi on the other........................now shes 220/230psi on both  ;D guess we done something right.
The last test will be the long run to see if its still disappearing oil. It will be another nervous time when I do it.

you should have kept it four inline as was designed  :-\

Nah much better now  ;D

Well done Craig. I've just got the paperwork for the Basingstoke show, (8th May). Gonna see you there on the trike?

cheers andy. as long as work dont stitch me up i will be there mate. its a permanent fixture on my calendar now. hope to have some paint on her by then to  ;)

looking forward to seeing it and you  ;D

yeah see you there merv  ;)

been playing around trying to tune her a bit and manged to break a piece off the front carb  :(. got another set and and fitted them up.
had some problems when getting to the top end in each gear she was stuttering but got that down to me blocking part of an airway with the filter rubbers.
now have a problem about 65mph after a bit she starts popping. think my vacuum petcock is to blame so have another on the way so hope to fit that before the weekend to get down the ace cafe.
then just need to balance the carbs to make sure they are running right  ;D

Sounds like you're on track for a summer of smiley miles. Look forward to seeing you out & about mate.

i hope so mate. want to try and get some paint on her before basingstoke. when shes running right and weather is better will run down your way. can go out on trike with you on your bike  ;)

That sounds like a plan :)

Give us a shout if you are coming down this way.

most certainly will sir  ;) i want to see the forge and the speedster.

waiting on fedex today to deliver a vacuum petcock. hope it gets here before lunch so i can start fitting it on my lunch hour ready for sunday.

wow  :o cant believe its been that long since i posted.

anyway as i have been saying for a while and at the basingstoke show my trike needed painting. well i finally pulled my finger out and last week i done it.
only thing is now i have im not sure i am happy with the colour  :(.
had some problems with the paint too which has meant that when i finished it the paint moved so even if i want to keep the colour i have to redo the tank.

will show where i am now but be warned it may well all be coming off and changing  ;D

sanded down the various parts

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(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170605_135122_zpssnc1p73m.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170605_135122_zpssnc1p73m.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170603_204536_zpsneqvya0a.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170603_204536_zpsneqvya0a.jpg.html)

then coated in primer

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170531_182418_zpszeuduf7n.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170531_182418_zpszeuduf7n.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170605_135128_zpsp3ez70eo.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170605_135128_zpsp3ez70eo.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170605_184506_zpsgypx3mid.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170605_184506_zpsgypx3mid.jpg.html)

then a white under coat

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_105512_zps6egj42g1.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_105512_zps6egj42g1.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_105500_zpsuv8ti0cv.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_105500_zpsuv8ti0cv.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_092651_zpszkmj7tgp.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_092651_zpszkmj7tgp.jpg.html)

then some coats of yellow

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_105637_zpsoiukeq5c.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_105637_zpsoiukeq5c.jpg.html)

then faded in some orange. if i do this again i will be skipping this bit as the orange all but disappeared.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_133439_zpsw6tikfaj.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_133439_zpsw6tikfaj.jpg.html)

then masked the parts up

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_152936_zpsprroxq2u.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_152936_zpsprroxq2u.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_152940_zps0r7l6r4q.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_152940_zps0r7l6r4q.jpg.html)

then comes the nervous bit  :o spray on the grey and sit back and watch

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_180240_zpser6q4nzz.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_180240_zpser6q4nzz.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_155250_zpsi8hvrwoo.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_155250_zpsi8hvrwoo.jpg.html)

then peel back the masking

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_160006_zps7wxwtmbb.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_160006_zps7wxwtmbb.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_174438_zps7slinhkr.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170601_174438_zps7slinhkr.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_230413_zpsje9aiegm.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_230413_zpsje9aiegm.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_230421_zpsrjadnqfx.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_230421_zpsrjadnqfx.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_230440_zps8cf9e8x8.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_230440_zps8cf9e8x8.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_230352_zps3z6bcosm.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170606_230352_zps3z6bcosm.jpg.html)

then i lacquered it all. after this is when disaster struck. lent the tank over to sort out the fuel tap and its seems some of the paint had not finished going off and it moved  >:(. not sure if this is part of the reason i am not as happy as i hoped to be with the colour but the grey is not as dark as i hoped.

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_181228_zps5vmatnwk.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_181228_zps5vmatnwk.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_181234_zpsa7nof2og.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_181234_zpsa7nof2og.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_181239_zps5kpicjqf.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_181239_zps5kpicjqf.jpg.html)

couldnt do anything about it straight away as needed trike to get to an event so here it is all back on

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_182040_zpsljfh50jk.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_182040_zpsljfh50jk.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_182049_zpsptxpea2s.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_182049_zpsptxpea2s.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_182112_zpsm9ful3jg.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_182112_zpsm9ful3jg.jpg.html)

(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/twistedspirit76/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_182122_zpsid1kiv5k.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/twistedspirit76/media/mobile%20pics/mankey%20monkey%20motors/Paint%20job/20170607_182122_zpsid1kiv5k.jpg.html)

anyway as i said not sure if it will stay this colour but it will have to do for the minute as i dont have the time or the paint to do it again straight away.

that's clever that. I could find a use for that, looks OK to me except the smudge.

What is the grey called etc ( for future reference ) ? It used to be called ' Crac-a-lac'  back in the 70's but haven't seen it about for ages  . Whats is the pait type as everything  has changed in aerosols anddrying times are forever  compared to solvent based ?

See what you mean about the grey, there would be more contrast if it was darker, but it looks pretty good the way it is!

cheers  ;)

the paint is made by a German company and is called montana crackle spray. you have to use one of their other colours underneath then put the crackle over the top and let it do its thing.
here is a link to the place i got it from and there is a short video on using it etc.

https://www.graff-city.com/spray-cans-c128/effect-sprays-c149/montana-crackle-effect-spray-paint-pp196

the problem i have had is that it looks like some of the paint has not gone of fully before i lacquered it and is still moving under the lacquer.
 
i did carry out some tests before doing the actual job but i can only thing that i done a few extra coats and the warehouse temperature was a bit cooler and didn't cook the paint off so much  ???.
some of it is still soft now  :o. waiting a bit longer to see if it all goes off fully before stripping it again.

when i do it again i will give the paint more time to go off before putting on the lacquer.

Nice effect Craig.
 Happened to me when I don't want it to, on the headlamp shell when using the wrong primer.
 Looks like you are correct about it not having cured before applying the lacquer. It may take a long.....  long time to harden now, as the lacquer will have sealed the solvents in.
Think all you can do is leave it in the sun and hope, or strip and repaint. :-\

cheers olds  ;)

and you seem to be right on one count.
the good news is all this sun has helped the paint go off. i cant push it around with my finger anymore. ;D

so the system/technique is good to go again.
just need to decide whether to just strip the tank or the whole lot and change the colour  ??? ;D

Red oxide primer all the rage at the moment !

eerr let me think about that one... NOOOOOOOOOOOO.  ;D ;D ;D ;)

I feel your pain with paint that takes forever to go off Craig.  :) I'm not touching my truck chassis for a week now, while I go on holiday. Hopefully I can cut it back when I get back. I like your colour scheme.

cheers andy  ;)

still undecided so just riding it around. ;D

just posting to bump the thread up the list abit to make it easier to find as i am thinking of selling Titan soon.

Leaving the trike scene twisted, or selling to move onto another?

cant leave now mate i been sucked in  ;D

need the funds for a new project  ;)

 ;D ;D ;D

Now I'm curious!

 ;) ;D

up for sale.
can be found in the for sale section and on the bay of E

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/road-legal-Q-plate-custom-v-twin-suzuki-trike/152949007332?hash=item239c78a3e4:g:GwYAAOSwVWFarY7-

well this trikes life with me is over. a nice fella from bristol came this morning to view it and loved it. has left me a deposit and plans to return next weekend to collect it.
on to the next one.

Nice one Mate. so what you doing next

Like we chatted about mate,I've read this complete thread end to end..and have some more knowledge for the msva test..cheers dude 8)

I still wish that I had never sold her   , but she,s moved on yet again , it looks like I started something that may last and go down in history ,,,,,one day ,,,lol ,,

. ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Bit of an interference problem between pedal and tyre , :D

how did you get that sneaky pic of my new project coppersmith  :D :D

well he came back and got it today.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2wrnn85.jpg)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/ve3y3o.jpg)

so all done now.
wished him all the best. he plans to get back on the rally seen with it and cover plenty miles on it. so you my see it out and about.

on to the next one

Always sad to see 'em go, but it'll make the new owner very happy :)