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Technical Section => Trike Tech => Topic started by: RODeo on June 11, 2011, 08:35:53 AM



Title: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: RODeo on June 11, 2011, 08:35:53 AM
Oh wise monkeys.................
I asked about this a long time back ,have done a 'search' but cant find it.....
 Im really struggling to sort out indicator /hazard wiring.When I built my Locost,I did this a totally different way,but I now want to sort this correctly on the trike.
  I cant seem to find a wiring diagram or what is actually needed. Do the hazards work on a seperate relay ,or can you get a relay that combines indicators/hazards? Although the indicator switch will be on the 'bars,I presume I can mount the hazard switch out of sight,therefore I wont be able to reach it without letting go of the 'bars? Is this ok for msva? (I will have the warning lamp for the hazards visible from the driving position)
  Will I be able to get a combined indicator /hazard relay that will be powerful enuf to use for trailer lighting as well?
   Thanks
      Rod
 


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: spanners on June 11, 2011, 10:14:31 AM
there,s some hazard ,kits, for trike,s on evil bay somewhere  i think the seller is in the peterborough area i had them on watch but must have deleted them as i cant find em just now but i,ll have another look  :)


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: spanners on June 11, 2011, 10:21:27 AM
found em ,,

peterborough-imports

gary james
 33 pratt avenue
  paston
peterborough
 camb,s
 pe4 7xn

01733 759184

 he,s got some on ebay  now  about £12  as a kit


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: RODeo on June 11, 2011, 10:52:50 AM
Ok thanks Spanners,I'll go have a look at them


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: zakboy on June 11, 2011, 11:21:59 AM
hi rod i brought a kit from the same place, very easy to fit has 4 wise two green witch go into the live on your indicators one each side,one red wire with in line fuse that go,s direct to the live on the battery so they work with out the ignition switched on, and the black to earth, can fit in a few Min's he sends you a easy to follow wiring diagram with them as well.zak


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: RODeo on June 11, 2011, 11:34:20 AM
Yeah,I think I'll go for one of them! Wonder if they are compatible with extra lighting for a trailer.Will message him to find out..he may be able to build me an uprated version if required.
       Rod


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: Cabman77 on June 11, 2011, 04:34:22 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180386802413&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320476747343&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: ByzMax on June 11, 2011, 11:15:52 PM
All you need to do is make sure the relay will operate the required number of bulbs (4) that should do for the trailer board too  ;)

The  connect a switch that is DPST (Dual Pole Single throw) If you can get one use a DPDT (Dual Pole Single Throw) 


Take a feed from the wire that goes from the flasher relay to the indicator switch and connect it to both connectors on one side of the switch.

The other two connectors on the switch should have a wire each get connected seperately to the left and right signals.

Circuit to follow


Oh and you don't to have it on the bars  just within easy reach of the riding position.


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: nabsim on June 12, 2011, 08:02:14 PM
I used a kit like that on the reliant, I added another toggle switch out of sight on the live from the battery so I could isolate the hazards when I parked up so toerags err children, couldn't switch them on and flatten the battery


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: big jay 257 on June 12, 2011, 08:41:51 PM
i just put a switch between the left and right indicators live (bridges them together) so you flick that switch then turn ither of the indicators on and hey presto 4 way flashers,, costs about £1.50 for the switch :)


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: nabsim on June 12, 2011, 08:45:40 PM
Hazards need to operate with ignition off and key removed though. Not sure if you are just retro fitting to already registered trike though


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: big jay 257 on June 12, 2011, 08:48:09 PM
forgot to mention that i use a permanent live for the indicators and side lights,, oops my bad,,,,


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: nabsim on June 12, 2011, 08:50:01 PM
That'll do it then :)


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: ByzMax on June 12, 2011, 10:55:26 PM
i just put a switch between the left and right indicators live (bridges them together) so you flick that switch then turn ither of the indicators on and hey presto 4 way flashers,, costs about £1.50 for the switch :)

Whilst that works I think the build regs say you need it to work from a single switch not two  ;)

Saying that harleys have two buttons pushed at the same time for hazards but they are not required on bikes  ::)


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: RODeo on June 13, 2011, 10:35:59 AM
I did similar set up when I had my Locost,but I want to do it the 'correct way' now........Have you got a wiring diagram for the way you described Iain,with the double pole switch?


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: klogan45 on June 13, 2011, 07:26:29 PM
I built the circuit from a diagram that someone on here (sorry can't remember who it was) let me have, worked great and I put the circuit and switch in the little box under the seat so no one could switch them on. It also meant that I couldn't switch them on by accident. Think I'll get the kit for the next one. The MOT man was very cool about it as I didn't have repeaters on the trike, he said it was ok though as I could see the indicators when sat on the trike.
Regards
K


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: ByzMax on June 13, 2011, 08:17:18 PM
I did similar set up when I had my Locost,but I want to do it the 'correct way' now........Have you got a wiring diagram for the way you described Iain,with the double pole switch?

I'll draw one scan it and post it here later tonight/tomorrow!  ;)


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: RODeo on June 14, 2011, 06:23:34 PM
Thanks! 8)


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: ByzMax on June 14, 2011, 09:13:48 PM
Here you go. Sorry for the delay not feeling too good at the mo  ::)


Click on the picture for a larger version!  ;D


(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/5833548601_a0bdffe994.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55514230@N05/5833548601/)
Hazard Light Wiring (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55514230@N05/5833548601/) by Shed Hobbit (http://www.flickr.com/people/55514230@N05/), on Flickr


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 14, 2011, 10:49:47 PM
not feeling too good at the mo

Look after yourself please Iain.


Title: Re: Hazard warning lights.
Post by: RODeo on June 15, 2011, 03:50:37 AM
Thanks Iain!..........Makes it look simple now!
 Hope youre feeling better.
    Rod