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Title: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 20, 2006, 06:01:39 PM
Has anybody got pics a write up or both on how to join a reliant prop shaft to a bike one ?
I have looked all over and cant find any info on it  :-\
Thanks in advance


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 20, 2006, 08:50:00 PM
Hello Baldy Bloke.
Haven't needed to do that yet but in the process of triking Rainbow's GS850 -so watch this space. Welcome aboard by the way.  ;)
It's become my habit to hassle newbies for contributions as soon as they make themselves known, so- got any piccies for us? What you riding? Fancy jotting down a few words on it so we can feature it in the Motors bit? Got any blurry old shots of blurry blokes we can use?


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 20, 2006, 09:04:08 PM
hiya. I will dig out a few pics for you.  would have been on earlier but i forgot what user name i had used  ::)


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 20, 2006, 09:16:42 PM
This site is brought to you by the letters Y, O, D & A, so if you do forget drop him a line & he'll sort it out for you. My memory's horrendous. Have to keep writing myself notes -then I forget where I left the notes. Got so many trike bits spread between so many people I've forgotten who's got what now. ???


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: BikerGran on April 20, 2006, 11:00:37 PM
I'll take some pics of mine tomorrow - might help.  No techie info tho cos it wasn't me what dunnit!


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 20, 2006, 11:41:05 PM
I'll take some pics of mine tomorrow - might help.  No techie info tho cos it wasn't me what dunnit!

thankyou


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: tbone on April 21, 2006, 07:14:04 PM
hi, read your post last night and as i still had to tackle this problem on my latest project, this is what i came up with this afternoon. Having done a few of these now, ther is no set way, alot depends on the shft your usibg and the bike set up.
Firstly youll notice the prop i`m using is huge, its off a mk1 escort n was only a quid on ebay so a bargain right?
Waaa cant upload pics cos they exceed the kb limit. if youd like pics please let me know and i`ll email directly to you.A brief description follows.
i cut the prop in half then cut a 3 inch square from 4MM steel plate, the prop is 3" diameter and i find it easier to find the centre of a square than a circle.
I also cut the bike `prop` down to just 1 1/2" long which was then welded into a shorter tube. This in turn was welded to the CENTRE of the 4mm square plate.
After it had cooled down it the spline was fitted back to the bike and the prop bolted in place. a lot of time is then spent measuring, checking and checking again before the prop is unbolted and cut to length.
Altough not cruical its important to get the length as accurate as possible.
the square plate is then tack welded to the prop and then checked again to fit. If all is well then it can be welded up, the square corners rounded off and hey presto one trike prop for a quid a bit of plate, tube, welding wire and about 4 hours work.


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 21, 2006, 07:38:43 PM
pm'd you  tbone.
I use photobucket for pics rather than re-size them, makes life easier.


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: tbone on April 21, 2006, 08:17:15 PM
will try n remember that for next time. thanks


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 21, 2006, 08:34:09 PM
Evening you two.
I've just got home from the garage. Been grinding & filing all day so utterly pooped now. Going to treat myself to an early night for once, so try not to wreck the place while I'm gone! Welcome T Bone by the way & thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
I use Adobe Photoshop by the way, to resize my piccies to 400 x 400.


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: tbone on April 21, 2006, 08:36:14 PM
god i cant take photos


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: tbone on April 21, 2006, 08:39:12 PM
tryed postin theses from a pc at work, got no editing software on it tho!!
Next time (if there is one) i`ll be more prepared, honest boss


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 21, 2006, 08:39:52 PM
this is easier lol,  go here
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f363/baldyshinehead/prop%20shaft/

sorry about them other pics sizes but i cant work out how to remove them  ::)
OH YODA  ;D


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 21, 2006, 08:55:54 PM
I have the power to remove stuff -not as mighty as the omni present Yodie though. I'm just the sorcerer's apprentice. Speedmaster posted a link to a photo reduction download only the other day. he's posted it twice -& I've managed to mislay it twice!


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 21, 2006, 09:40:21 PM
I have the power to remove stuff -not as mighty as the omni present Yodie though. I'm just the sorcerer's apprentice. Speedmaster posted a link to a photo reduction download only the other day. he's posted it twice -& I've managed to mislay it twice!

just think it maybe worth removing the first 2 posts with the pics in, they are kinda large  ;D


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 21, 2006, 10:00:21 PM
Done, but would be nice if you could repost in a smaller size when you figure out how. I'm off to bed now so turn the lights out when you leave eh. G'night.


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 21, 2006, 11:12:26 PM
lets try this again shall we


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 21, 2006, 11:12:54 PM
more


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 21, 2006, 11:13:34 PM
more


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 21, 2006, 11:14:00 PM
more


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: baldyshinehead on April 21, 2006, 11:14:54 PM
last one


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: Manky Monkey on April 22, 2006, 08:58:09 AM
That's better ;)
They say a piccie's worth a 1000 words don't they. Looks like the short length of red tubing in the photos is the screw on collar from the heavy guage ERW tubing we use for our trike frames. Wouldn't have occurred to me to use that, or to cut a square plate -I'd have probably had Reg the lathe man machine up a collar to take up the difference in tube diameters. Yours works just as well & costs nothing. Well done.


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: tbone on April 22, 2006, 06:18:49 PM
well spotted, they say never throw anything away lol, it just happened to be the correct diameter to seat the front spline centrally.


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: BikerGran on April 22, 2006, 11:45:06 PM
Ooops I forgot to take a phot of mine and it's gone to have the carbs sorted now!  Never mind, I think it's somwhat similar to the above.  It has a square plate on the end of each shaft which is quite handy cos the square gives four corners for the bolts to go in when they're mated up.


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: klogan45 on June 26, 2006, 08:39:55 PM
Hi Baldyshinyhead.
Saw the pics....well impressed, will be doung similar to my 535 virago, difference being that I will have to have a u.j at each end by the look of things to get the angle. There is no uj at the engine.
The pics speak a thousand words.....much better than any explanation ever could be....why do you think manuels have pics!!!!!!
Great stuff, hope all goes well with the build for you.
I can't get a reliant axle so am going to use a suzuki sj410 axle...diff ratio is 4.111...
hope the 535 has enough power....probably will have.
Take care, have fun, ride safe
K


Title: Re: prop shaft
Post by: Manky Monkey on June 26, 2006, 09:19:11 PM
A Reliant axle at Ska man's place if you desperately need one.