Manky Monkey Motors

Hi

I have done some thinking and come up with an idea using a reliant axle softtail
i just think this may be a lot easier then my sierra diff design

ok here it goes
i thought of building a swingarm to enable the soft tail option. see No1

i added wheels and a perticular stile frontend i can't remember the name of in No2 for no apparent reason :D

No3 shows my idea from the back and i included the curve as i figured the reliant diff may strike the bottom of the upper part since i'm a heavy bugga.
gonna figure that out as i build it

No4 shows the swingarm from the top, (orange) and the axle, (grey) and suspention units in red

would this work and please remember this is just a rough sketch made on paint

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t305/baloo1068/trikeideas.jpg)

sorry i cant see that working the shock angles would never allow the axle to move. but if you do decied to go the soft tail route i,ve got a complete rear setup from a mazda mx5 sat in the garage minus the diff £150 the lot hubs, wishbones driveshafts discs calipers etc im not building anymore so alls gotta go. im buying a v8 after chrimbo ;D

thanx for the advise and offer

i got no room in the moment to store or build anything and i need to get the bird room sorted first before i start building
i'm trying to get a better idea first of what is involved and what i need

maybe i should go for the hardtail option after all
got lots of time to figure it out i suppose

anyone wanna swap some budgies for a frame :D

Not a good photo but it is a soft tail using a reliant axle.

I'll take some more tomorrow to try to show it better.

Hi Big Uli .what engine and gear box are you thinking of useing

Thanx  :)



all reliant
750 850 depends whats available in good nick when i get to it
i would prefer 850
i have given up on my sierra diff idea

been looking at lots of write ups and i think manky's old frame design could be adapted for soft tail

Hiya Uli -unusual name, short for something else?
Does it have to be a soft tail? Having ridden quite a few thousand miles on various hardtails, they're really not anywhere near as harsh a ride as non hardies think they are. Less moving parts, bearings etc to wear out & a much simpler, cleaner frame design. I can understand the fun in designing & building a clever suspension set-up, but I tend to go with the easy option meself!

Hi Manky
yes its short for Ulrich

i actually never ridden a hard tail so i can't really comment
i just think a soft tail would be more comfy.

i do like the look of both your frame designs
the latter being the meaner looking

maybe i need to ride one to make my mind up

the good thing is there is no rush to get it build so i can spend lots of time thinking it all over

Yeah, the Motors, 3 wheels section of the main site is a good place to find inspiration. Plenty of variety in there to get the creative juices flowing. Oh, welcome to the site by the way!  ;)

Thanx m8

after watching Hellrider again the other day i wouldn't mind to build a hellcycle trike

now that creative ;D

Cool! Go for it!

I’m in South Hertfordshire and have the Manky hard tail below. Find it pretty comfy with the right tyre pressures, your welcome to take it for a blat round the block it you want.

http://www.mankymonkeymotors.co.uk/Trikespageimages/greentrike/green.htm

now>

http://www.mankymonkeymotors.co.uk/Trikespageimages/bluejob/trike.htm

So can we see a pic of it now Snafu? Nice to hear it's still out & about mate.

will take a pic and bung it on ;D ;D

thanx m8 i may take you up on this next year
i think getting a finished frame would be real handy
may look into that

Hi,I have been thinking of doin something simular.This will be my first build.I found this series of photos of a build which I think are quite good,what do yous think?I cant get any contact details of the builder or I would write and ask how it worked.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/561486201nOLmcC

Pat

i don,t know if its because i,m tired but i can,t see it working very well,it doesn,t look any where near strong enough.eg those outriggers,i,ll have another look tomorrow with a fresh pair of eyeballs.

Uli, i would stick with the sierra irs idea. not as hard to rig up as first thought.
this is a setup for a vw but really could work for anything irs
(http://www.dingbobtrikes.com/trikeframe_03SA/trikeframe_03SA_2/vw_subaru_frame_4.jpg)
(http://www.dingbobtrikes.com/trikeframe_03SA/trikeframe_03SA_2/vw_subaru_frame_2.jpg)
dont get distracted by all the tripe for mounting the vw in it all you need is the shock mount and swingarm layout
my 2 cents

heres another goodun
(http://www.dingbobtrikes.com/trikeframe_03SA/trikeframe_03SA_3/SHOCKY_1.JPG)
btw these are pics of a production trike here in aus

Hi Chewie and welcome.
Your swingarm looks a much better idea, I may even use that for my 5 series BMW diff/driveshafts when I get around to it.
 :)

vey impressive Chewie,any more pics.

thanx for the pointer and suggestion everyone

unfortunately i'm further form deciding then before now :D

too much choice ;)

not my design, www.dingbobtrikes.com.au (http://www.dingbobtrikes.com.au) i'm going to copy it relentlessly tho, as soon as i can talk the mrs outta more dough
vw- the ONLY WAY TO GO

Chewie that link don't work,

try this link
http://www.dingbobtrikes.com/Index.htm hope this helps

Nice looking frame, just an observation, if the shaft/tube the blokes holding in the pic is secured to the “swing arm?” and frame, to stop lateral movement  it will maintain it’s length during suspension travel and twist the swing arm.

I’ve probably missed something here as there’s no full pic of the assembly. 

looks to me like its the lower `wishbone`  ;)

yep what tbone said lower wishbone.

but it's not wishbone set up, it's trailing arm ???

OK bottom link arm then ;D

   yeah, you're right, he'll really want some sort of compliance bushing in the front pivot point. That said it may be that the difference is negligible and is taken up with a bit of flex here and there, I've looked at several conflicting arc linkages recently that shouldn't really work but obviously do

I think the link arm, is connected to the swingarm with a rosebearing.

...and the kneebone's connected to the thighbone....