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Technical Section => General Tech => Topic started by: mrdeey on November 03, 2009, 10:42:13 PM



Title: Tube Notcher
Post by: mrdeey on November 03, 2009, 10:42:13 PM
Got me one of those fancy tube notchers from the states , its a pro tools item running in 2" ball bearings adjustable for offset notching and variable angles , are they worth it ?, bit like the saying ,once u had black u never go back , or as i prefer once u had white u never as tight! you betcher! perfect fit every time ! just make sure you have a decent quality hole saw and dont drill too fast, n away you go .


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 04, 2009, 12:01:21 AM
Let's have a look at it then!


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: voodoo on November 04, 2009, 02:23:04 AM
Let us know if its anygood and how easy to use please.....Ive been thinking of buying one for a while now,if things go as planned I will be after one early next year...Voodoo....


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: mrdeey on November 04, 2009, 09:51:04 AM
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2lj408h.jpg)

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2mrz8m0.jpg)

looked at lots of em , before i got this one , the jd2 one is pretty good to , but i think this has the edge, as i said 2" ball bearings wiv a 1" steel shaft , it just sits in yer vice simple as that n nothing moves! quality stuff


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: VALLEYSBOY on November 04, 2009, 03:56:37 PM
um wots its powered via? pics look like its a good un :)


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: tbone on November 04, 2009, 05:40:40 PM
electric drill  ;)


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: spanners on November 04, 2009, 09:22:37 PM
can you give us a clue to the million doller question ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the price of such a tool  :D :D


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: mrdeey on November 04, 2009, 09:42:54 PM
I can tease you no longer , picked it up for 19141.8448 yen plus post  ;D


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: VALLEYSBOY on November 04, 2009, 09:46:47 PM
bout £130 i reckon


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: spanners on November 04, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
I can tease you no longer , picked it up for 19141.8448 yen plus post  ;D


 dosn,t any one use £,s anymore ????? :D :D :D


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: ROD on November 05, 2009, 05:19:40 AM
Looks a cool tool that.Depends how much you are gonna do to make it viable tho'.


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: DIZZY on November 05, 2009, 08:30:59 AM
Looks like a great tool does that!!...............just a thought,has any one tried using a hole cutter in a pillar drill? to do this job? its an idea i wanted to try but aint had a chance yet.
Looking at these pictures, if you took it out of the vice and put it up right youd av a pillar drill? i just wonder if doin it  with a pillar drill it might be prone to jamming.

Just a thought but a lovely tool !!


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: tbone on November 05, 2009, 08:57:13 AM
Think i remember trikerpete saying he uses a holesaw in a pillar drill  ???


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 05, 2009, 09:32:55 AM
PD & Loony used a pillar drill when cutting frame tubes for PD's little brother's bike. I think it worked O.K
Personally I find it much quicker to grind them to shape with an angle grinder, but then, I always take the awkward option on any job.   :P


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: ROD on November 05, 2009, 12:25:07 PM
Another way to notch tube is to put a milling cutter in the chuck of a lathe,and clamp the tube to the tool holder. If you have a lathe of course! and also depends how big the tool holder is to clamp larger diams in . I like to grind them out myself.


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: mrdeey on November 05, 2009, 03:35:02 PM
i am a chippy by trade n when i was learning all those years ago , we used to use a brace n bit for holes , then sum one come along wiv a fancy cordless  drill , n we all laughed n said no way will they catch on !
it takes me about 2 mins to notch a pipe at any angle n its perfect wiv no sparks or crap every where
so im chuffed , guess if you only hav a couple or so not worth it but this is my second trike n i remember just how long it took me to do all the other friggin joints ;D


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: ROD on November 05, 2009, 05:04:14 PM
Ah the good old brace and bit! Still got loads of woodworking tools around . Love all the old stuff! Makes you feel really good when using a PROPER screwdriver with a nice shaped boxwood handle!For slotted head screws anyway!
  Not dissing the tube notcher ,I do like it!


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: biggeo on November 05, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
tried all methods.grinding, pillar drill,then borrowed a tube notcher from a mate like night and day the fit you can achive is amazing his clamps to the pipe so you can use it without clamping in a vice (allows you to notch a tube in place)
would reccommend to anybody

geo


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: VALLEYSBOY on November 05, 2009, 11:14:02 PM
so how much was it pls ;D


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: biggeo on November 06, 2009, 06:52:09 AM
seen them on fleabay £100ish

geo


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: mrdeey on November 06, 2009, 11:26:43 AM
pro tools web site lists them at $299.00 dollars , then you got to get them here , got mine from ebay.com cost £127.00 n post was $48 dollars , the ones you see on ebay uk for about £100 are a waste of money, they just have bronze bushes n dont last , u need one wiv ball(s) bearings else u b disapointed, lot of bushes n balls in there ! :o


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: biggeo on November 06, 2009, 03:34:08 PM
the one ive used has bushes ive cut about 20 notches and my mates had it for a number of years and cut hundreds (he builds darrian rally cars) guess its down to how many times you use it and how much you want to spend what he told me was good quality holesaws (starrett) and a slow speed drill and oil to lube the saw worked great for me

geo


Title: Re: Tube Notcher
Post by: dracken1 on November 15, 2009, 12:50:44 PM
if using a hole saw in a pillar drill. if the drill is a cheap one seen on ebay and else where. when cutting at 45 drgs it puts a strain on the spindles bearings, which tends to wear them pretty quick.
we use hole saws but on a big elliot mill. but most of our notching is done using cutters such as the one below. which is notching the front down tubes for a cbr 250 frame to make a 1960's rc162 replica
(http://www.jwmotorcycles.com/frames/hrc162-15.jpg)