Manky Monkey Motors

I have been in contact with Royce Creasey about the Voyager Reliant engine to Guzzi gearbox conversion plate and looks like I may have the drawings soon.

Would anyone be interested in them if I can cast them?

The pic below is a naked Voyager

thats ugly

Lucky it has a fibreglass body to hide it then eh!

bet its still ugly with that on

It was built in the seventies ;D

Yeah, ugly was almost compulsory in the 70s.  :P
I've got no idea what the gearing would be like with a Guzzi box mated to a Reliant engine, but I'd be curious to see the results if they did an auto box. They did didn't they? I'm sure I remember Southern Cycles building a Guzzi powered trike back in the 80s which was an automatic. Might be very useful for some of our disabled forum members. Would make an interesting article for the Trike Tech bit of the Motors section.

Exactly what I was thinking, evedently there are three types of gearbox ,Le Mans, California, and a modern one. Will investigate more and try to write article.

That would be simply spiffing of you ol' chap.  :)

Ooooh I would LOVE an automatic bike trike!

i would just love a bike  :(

Nice Reliant-engined bobber?

the guzzi that was semi auto was called the convert it was based on the old t3 stroke california it was 2 speed high and low ratio. now rare as hens teeth  and spares are virtually none existent now if you can find a good one buy it bloody good bikes i had two. ;)

Just googled the voyager this is what it came up with, I like it meself!!!

 ;D ::)

Check out the second link on an earlier post and see some really ugly and some not so ugly FF's, I spent several hours looking at the galleries of these types of bike.

http://www.mankymonkeymotors.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4321.0


Hope to have all the details of the conversion in the next few days and drawings of the adapter plate an a licence to make them.

This is pretty much sorted now so if you want to change your reliant gearbox for a moto guzzi one I've almost finished the final design.

This version will be based on the casting used on the voyager but will be fabricated so it's cheaper to make.

This is a dual offensive.

The Pointy Helmet UberHelmet Department has already flown a number of sorties (below radar)
and is in the company of Mr. Twisted Patience.

We WILL DEVELOP EVERY ASPECT OF WHAT IS FEASIBLE.

WE WILL COST IT ALL UP AS A CAD EXERCISE.

AND BE ABLE TO PRODUCE IT.

This MMM forum will keep you informed on progress.

This is going to slow down and send the costs soaring for my trike.

But this has ALREADY sucked in ALOT of diverse WOULD LIKES from THE CLUB.

I have already, at 5.55am today, dropped off paperwork for my fabrication engineer.

I will hopefully get some feedback today.

Around twenty e mails have bounced to and fro, on this already.

Please post your thoughts on any aspect of this.

IT

WILL HAPPEN.

Depending on what people would like out of this concept.
We will build this into the project.

Been up at work all night....Lined up today's offensive already.
ACHTUNG BABY!
We're on the case.

Time for some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's

Just had a look at the old forum pics
(courtesy of Mr Twisted Patience)

The outhouse at Milton Keynes Mail Centre, where I drop my empty containers (Yorks) every morning.
Has an automotive engineering unit opposite.

What sits outside as an advert.

A ****ing QUASAR!!!!

A small world eh!

So ...what are we talking about here? An adaptor plate to fit a Moto Guzzi auto gearbox to a Reliant engine? If so that could be hugely beneficial to a lot of people -I'm thinking disabled guys especially. If it works, that'd be a big step forward in the triking world. So which Guzzi box does it use & how readily available are they?

Seems that all guzzi gearboxes are the same, well for the large ones at least. Am not a guzzi specialist so if anyone know any better PLEASE let me know ASAP.

This project is a manual 5 speed to reliant engine, it uses the Guzzi Gearbox Flywheel and clutch thus giving you a constant mesh 5 speed.

Not found an automatic but if someone needs one and can find it I see no reason why it can't be adapted to suit.

Looking to build a DIY kit at low cost ie you find the guzzi parts, we will do the rest.

Doc.

"I would like to take your point - and drive it home!"

COULD ALL MMM WEB FERRETS
KEEP YOUR EYES PEELED FOR AUTO BOX INFORMATION THAT WE COULD UTILISE.

It looks highly probable that we can produce a very pretty polished or satin finish, stainless steel adaptor.

Yes.

In answer to the idea put forward.

A RELIANT BOBBER BIKE is one of THREE concepts squirming in the box.

I am cataloguing this project as-

FZ 142


As with ANY design project. We will meet with some blind alleys.
Part of the game is to tick them off and develop the best options available.
At every stage we will be costing AS A FEASIBLE bit of kit.
We are not looking to wheel out something shiney and prohibitively expensive.

All I can say is...
All options are looking VERY POSITIVE.

Doc is nothing but on the ball.
At my end I am in direct contact with my production Dept.
24 hours a day.

SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING SUMMER!

Yup, just as you thought, still UGLY!!! with a capital UG.

Forget the old Ug Voyager.
We are still moving along with the gearbox conversion.

Reliant trike.
Bike gearchange.

You can STICK yer stick !


The CAD exercise is on the back boiler.
The cost of the billet aluminium is so prohibitive that few people would consider the option.
It would cost a certain amount to program the details.

I am spending money all over the place, so have to duck out on spending on this for a week.
Working out a channel to obtain the Guzzi parts required.

As my trike is the first one to sport the GuzziPig set up.
We will update with photos as it happens.

I am trying to fathom this project, Guzzi 'boxes are like 'hens teeth' to obtain, the conversion plate is expensive to make, and you don't get a reverse gear even, wheres the point, other than a dubious value foot change? and I have no doubt if your energies were expended on that as a project you would come up with a passable Reliant foot change conversion! so there may be a more practical way forward, oh and its still ugly!! Morrag

Moto Guzzi gearboxs don't seem to be that rare now except the auto of course, have found several ranging fron £75 up.

As for the conversion plate being expensive, I have just redesigned it to be cheap, as the original was a cast alminium part and as such expensive, you could use a CNC on a solid block (which would cost in the region of £100-200 alone) but at about £100 per hour for CNC that's out but there's always more that one way to do a job.


 ;D

Hiya Morrag.

Trying to fathom your posting.
We are not using a Guzzi Convert auto box.

What's UG?
Voyager is hyperuggliness on an effin stick.

We are not wheeling out a Voyager.

We are using the concept of the Reliant engine linked to the Guzzi box.
Me mate saw these flying round the Isle of Man, years back.
They went like stink.
We are taking the one part of the Voyager that made sense.
Shedding the ££££££££s and lbs.

Going in the right direction.

I don't see "dubious value footchange" wanting me to change MY mind.
Never rode any ov me Harleys with stick between me legs.

This is phase ONE of what we are thinking through.

Please reply Morrag. We welcome your criticism, as it hones down the conceptualisation.
I just can't tie up with the reference points you are citing.

Cos I am making the trike I WANT, first and foremost.

The first thought in my mind was

"That ****ing stick!"

It throws out the balance of what I want to build.
It's ergodynamically part of a fri**in car.

As I said. You can stick your stick (where the sun don't shine)

Mmmmmmm,appears I have struck a raw nerve,sorry about that......oh, the bike flying around the IoM probably had a Guzzi single attached to that Guzzi gearbox...ho hum....

 ;D
No, not at all!

I welcome any constructive criticism if it can lead anywhere positive.

The ex had a Reliant trike in 1993. I wouldn't piss on it if it was on fire.
But now I'm deciding to have a go at knocking something up.
We have billions of trikes in Thailand and the kids really love em.

What We are pushing is, and pardon my expanse of ignorance, is a "biked" Reliant gearbox.

There may be a number out there.
I feel sure Chris Ireland could fashion something out of a draw of cutlery, that would fit the bill.
but
This is the product of two MM members getting their arses into gear and Drawing, emailing, surfing,
costing, revising, drawing........

The end result could be of GREAT benefit to disabled triker/bikers.
It provides a good DESIGN OPTION for those chopping a Reliant.

It is hardly a new or original idea.
We never claimed it as our own.

We are developing it as a current and reasonably cost effective OPTION.

The Voyager used a soddin great lump of aluminium as it was part of the constructional strength of the machine.

We are offering (one day) a fillet that sits 'tween engine and box.

Already Doc and myself are firing off at different tangents on this.

The GuzzPig is the first look at where this can go.

It is the FZ142.



Doc is legally allowed to use the registered drawings of the Voyager box.
It seemed, and still seems, a healthy option in a marketplace
that is not knee deep in motorcycle shift Reliant boxes.

I actually quite like jockey shifts, (hand gear changes). Changing gear is all part of the experience of riding a trike -I like having to put a little effort & thought into riding -it's what makes it fun for me. It also means one less lever on the bars. I can see how a lot of people, particularly those used to riding bikes, might prefer a foot change though. Shifting up & down through a bike type ratchet box would be faster than going through an H gate with a stick, but then I'm not personally into racing that much.
If you can fit a Guzzi box, that then opens up the possibility of fitting an auto box, which would be of great benefit to disabled riders, but even the manual bike box could work with the "Klicktronic" power assisted bike gear change developed by the National Association of Bikers with a Disability. So although it may not be to your taste, this could help a lot of people get on the road on 3 wheels who might otherwise not do so, as well as simply widening the range of design possibilities.
How about a Ural gearbox? That'd give you a Reliant with a bike style gear change & a kickstart!  :D

...and reverse

I think it could be a good idea, but how available would Guzzi boxes be when people started jumping on them and storing them for future projects ( guity your honour on most counts ) ......it's getting harder to find reliant stuff these days. How about an auto box from a small Jap car, dunno....Nissan mebbe, as Andy says there are loads of guys out there with a real need for an auto box ( with reverse) and I am sure NABD would help towards the cost of purchase too

HELLO "CLUB!"
 ;D

At last the assembled might of MMM is starting to kick the idea around!

I feel certain that Mr Desperado Dann would know how, or what to convert, for an auto box.

Reverse. ?
Couldn't run a backwards starter motor off the ring gear, could you?

That's what I like about the TRIKE concept.
You have the room to explore infinite amounts of options.

No, we don't want to claw in every Guzzi box in Europe.
Would be interesting to know if the boxes outlast the build quality of the Guzzi bike and engine, though.

The STICK YOUR STICK campaign has yielded fruit already...
Now WE are starting to talk about WHAT MAKES IT TICK for US. Both as individuals (Bike and Trike pilots)

Now if we remove our collective heads from our garages.....

EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD CAN BE ACHIEVED TOGETHER.

(hint)

We've already got half of Brit Chopper on board.

Des per rate!

DES  PER  RATE!

.....Your children need your celestial guidance.

Er sorry to say , although it's a bit on the ugly side Like me , I rather like this bike as is. Needs a wee splash of mat black I think.
Hope your venture goes well , good luck.

Richie.

THE GERMANS WOULD HAVE SORTED IT BY NOW.

I was talking to a lovely young lady, whilst in Thailand.

(We have a fair few Germans near my house, with Thai wives, as the area is so sought after.)

She was explaining that the German man is such a dynamic lover.
"Are the English man the same?"

I explained, underneath the Bavarian brass helmet. I was, as coincidence, would have it...

English

Her glass of iced Papaya drink clicked to the glass table top.
Her almond eyes sparkled and she leant forward...and whispered in my ear.

"I knew, a HELMUT of my own.

I was at a cafe in Muak Lek, waiting for an air conditioned bus.

A beautiful, german trike pulled up.
Off got it's rider. A greying ponytailed, blue eyed  man.
An iron cross hung round his neck on a gold chain.
His leather waistcoat caught it and spun it, catching the intense sunlight.

The erect pipes of his machine framed his confident gait, as he walked to my table.
-I was frozen, yet spinning -  in another world."

"go on" I said.

..."But first I must move my pick up under the shade of the nearby trees."

(actually go and borrow an effin great adjustable spanner at our workshop...zipp!)

And you had a problem understanding my posting!!........

See your point but beyond my capabilities barely got enough room for this project.

THE GERMANS WOULD HAVE SORTED IT BY NOW (contd.) (****ing great spanner!)

I returned to the table with another chilled Singha beer.

"Kahtort" (sorry)
"Please carry on."

"Well...I didn't go home on the air con bus!"

I feigned surprise.
"What then?"
"We roared off on the big german trike.
Helmut asked if I wanted to see his house. Set up in the hills.
...and that is where we stayed the night.
As the evening drew on the sky looked like the scales of an orange fish.
I had decided to stay and catch the morning bus.

The hours drifted into a tapestry of moonlight shadows.
The talk drifted into talk of love, lovers and lust.

"Do you like der kinky sex?"
Helmut spoke across a massive brandy glass. As he breathed in it's heady vapours, I felt myself self control
sucked into the stranger's mind.

With a gentle wave of his hand, i was walking into an impressive teak bedroom.

Four sturdy bedsprings lay upon the crisp white sheets.
Each had a leather harness attached.

"Two der knees und two der ell bow for riding all night...und dis."
He handed me a small trumpet.
"It is der duck call - I go shooting der duck! In your mouth the voice of the duck"

He slid the little trumpet between my lips and his fingers ran through my hair.

That night was the most amazing love making I could imagine.
After my shock and embarrassment, all I heard was the sound of a thousand ducks.
Around the room, upon the stairs. My hair fell lank with the hot, damp hunting session.

At last I fell into a deep and satisfied slumber.

When I woke Helmut was standing naked on the balcony.
The scent of coffee filled the room.  

HE waited for me.

I slid out of the twisted silken sheets and walked naked to join him.
I felt so liberated, i had no call for clothes.

I stood and followed his gaze across the expanse of palms.

"I don't know what to say, Helmut.
Is this is what life is like in the German Land?"

It can be.
Vee verk hard.
Vee play hard.

Vee haf Der VOR SPRUNG DURCH TEKNIK!"b]

(and I'd only seen the adverts)  
So that's "Progress through Technology" 

you won't be hearing from desperate for a while ...he is firmly wedged in his shed building an 8 cylinder supercharged NSU engined trike  from 2x 4 cylinder engines, he won't even come out to talk to us

 ;D
Watch out for those Wankel Spiders, Chris!

Due to the interest in this project, possibly from disabled riders, thought you might like to consider what could be a more cost effective route,if looking for such a disabled rider friendly option, and that is along the lines of the Pic.attached.I have no idea who built it, and the pic is 6/7 years old, but its a Metro Auto.with Kawasaki front end, but still manages to look neat and tidy, and "Bike based" 'trikish, don't you think?.Anyway, its another route,Morrag

 :)
Cheers, Morrag.

It is an intriguing machine.
Totally enclosed,bit like a trike that has been vacuum packed.

Certainly makes for easy cleaning.
 

Can I say blurghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that is the ugliest thing I think I have had the misfortune to cast my eyes upon. I thought Boom trikes had cornered the market for ugly but at least they have the German TUV to conform to.
Sorry, just my opinion but I do hate bodywork on trikes. Here I have to agree with the late Indian Larry that the workings of a machine should be celebrated not hidden.... guess I had better run and hide now  ::) ::) ::) ;)















 :-*

You just know the owner of that trike's going to pitch up here one day & be very, very upset.  :'( (I'll send him your way when he does Shaun  :D ).
I'm not keen on acres of bodywork either & agree, mechanics can be beautiful. There's a place for bodywork in the trikey world though.
Just not on mine.   :)

Actually that trike is currently for sale on the NABD forum.

There's a firm up in the midlands building something along those lines commercially.  Wildcat trikes (http://www.wildcattrikes.co.uk/2.html)

I think they look quite good and I've tried very hard to like them but like you say there's just too much bodywork - I saw one at a rally and had a good look but it didn't do a lot for me.

The styling isn't my thing, but the build quality looks pretty good. I'm curious -how much do they sell for Bobbi?

Lucky I'm not building a trike then init.

I'm glad that members are not too shy to say what THEY think is a duffer.

There are those who build, to the very best of their ability, what they feel...
defines a beauty of balance and configuration.
We are lucky to have a tolerant DVLA that allows us to satisfy our imagination in motion.

This is a forum.
A meeting ground for expressing OUR perspective.
Brutally, frank criticism is just that - A critique of how the subject is seen by others.

THE VOYAGER. illustrates this point quite effectively.
The marketplace - Failed to warm to a "two wheeled Bond Bug" - and a number of issues snuffed it out.
It was a bike, car hybrid. A strange driving position meant it had to win people over.
Was it aesthecally beautiful?
Go on. Be brutally frank.

It certainly was a product of it's time. The 60s-70s was The Future's Plastic!  
Perhaps it could have carved out a niche market, if it looked sexy. If it looked agressively aerodynamic.
The custom car scene was very much alive and kicking.
The GRP cladding could have been styled in any manner of shape for the same outlay.

The Wildcat trike is styled in an obvious, delta shaped way. It IS a SCOOTER TRIKE.

THE GUZZI CONVERSION IS 100% MOTORCYCLE IN IT'S FORM AND FUNCTION
THIS MEANS YOU CAN SIT OVER THE GEARBOX. NOT BEHIND IT.
AS BROCK FLAGGED UP ....REVERSE?....NEVER NEEDED ONE ON ANY OF MY HARLEYS.
PRODUCT OF A RELIANT CAR. WHERE YOU SIT INSIDE. WITH A STEERING WHEEL.
 

Well, it would seem that generally the point of my posting has been missed! indeed I don't particularly like bodywork myself, and that current 'Wildcat' is definitely not my bag,although it must have appeal to many, however, I posted the pic. in deference to the injured/physically challenged trikers, who seemed to show an interest in the posss. of an 'automatic', is all, would I want one, well no, not really, is it an alternative view, I think so, but then I don't like VW trikes, unless its a "Swedish", so there you go, all part of life's rich tapestry...... Morrag

 ;)
Hi Morrag. Yes, thanks for posting the Metro auto trike.  

I was using PantherShaun's comments as  AN INDIVIDUAL, MAKES THEIR POINT.  

It is good to kick around the feasibility (or sourcing existing) auto trikes.
The point was raised - and you came up trumps.

I would think there are many considerations that need to be addressed in a "BwithD" trike build.
That's kool.
One high on the list may be ease of cleaning.
A smooth, panelled surface, that doesn't snag clothing might be a preference.
We're into building our own slants  on what has gone before, they are all individual adventures in themselves.

You mention the Swedish VW trikes.
Now the Swedes have carved out an interesting bit of engineering.(Might be German/Danish in origin)

Isn't the trick to use TWO gearboxes. BACK TO BACK!
The MID one as a converter/driveshaft 'tween engine and drive train.

BTW have a Swedish section, don't they?....I'll have a rootle around, I'm a member.
The brother in law is Swedish if I ever need a translator.
This MID box section might be fertile ground for "autoboxing".

DISCUSSION THROWS UP TANGENTS THAT ARE JUST AS WORTHY AS YOUR OWN.
THE TRICK IS TO PURSUE A NUGGET OF AN IDEA.
Is it actually in production?
Is is an old idea that was shelved?
Why?
Can recent technology (and the Internet) produce the background info to finsh the job?

For the number of MMM members. Around 10 - 20  "seem to carry the forum along".

Andy has produced some core blocks of information that are a godsend for trike builders.

All I am doing is to use the Guzzpig gearbox conversion as a springboard for a keystone in a trike building.....

THE GEARBOX.
WHAT DO YOU WANT OF IT, FOLKS!?

We have a certain amount of luxury. In that we can utilise a load of "variables".
Shaft/chain.
Bike/car gearboxes.
Suicide shifts.
Forward controls.
And maybe a torque converter, set up.

As Tazet might say
"Loads of horses for loads of courses."

Cheers for the reply Mr.P, now that does make for a thought provoking rumination!! ciao for now, Morrag

didn't really mean to be rude :-[ :-[, I just hate body work on bikes or trikes. I think the metro auto is a cracking idea and it is a real challenge to make a car engine look sexy uncovered. I feel pretty much the same about Boom trikes and even the old phoenix style never struck me... but there are people out there who love them and power to them for that, I think there are plenty of people who hate what I build/ride but hey that's life ::) and I really do like to see all the workings.
Interested to see how the Guzzi/pig turns out, as that could be turned into a nice little Reliant engined Bobber  ;D ;D ;D

Hi Panthershaun.
I wish more people WERE direct. We live in a "faster than you can blink" time.
Fannying around, and not saying as you see it DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE NOT THINKING IT. (!?)
Being FOCUSED, DIRECT,PERCEPTIVE
doesn't mean Rude in my book.
If the MMM lot saw what you are building, they would see you have more than enough credentials to pass comment.
 ;D :) ;) 8)

(Might have got your BUILD mixed up with Ritchie's...Tying to navigate round loads of sites is a bit mind bending!)
YOUR MOCK UP IN THE GARDEN.
SPEAKS ******' VOLUMES! (sorry to be rude!!!)

Please post.

HERE.

NOW.

"Rockin, man. One cool bit of S***"

Cost of  basic Wildcat trike

I need an automatic because of disability, and need a reverse gear for the same reason - I only have one leg that will push effectively and that one's not too good either!  It prolly depends where you want to go but I do the Round Britain Rally which takes me along some dodgy country lanes and sometimes you need to turn round on a hilly bit of road. 


True but it can be done - I like the look of this one.

Thats more like it BG  ;D ;D ;D, I guess if you hide the motor you don't have to spend too much time/money making it pretty but this one is defo more to my tastes ;D

It would be cool to have an auto Reliant lump though ;D

Oh yessss!


Going right back to the beginning of this thread and the pic of the naked Voyager - I'd love to ride round on one of those, naked - just think of the 'look at me' factor!   ;D ;D ;D

You want people to look at you nekkid?   :o

Hi BG! ;D ;D ;D   (NEKKID..Who, what?!)

That is EXACTLY what I am pushing for this THREAD.

The lowdown on what we are building.
To have to tailor a build for specific requirements just makes it more exciting.

I think the Yank and Rod members could post up some pretty sexy lumps of 4 wheeled engine.

I do feel some air cooled bike engines have a fragility (ally fins etc) that few car lumps worry about.

WE ARE DESIGNING THE WHOLE SET UP , TRIKE WISE.

THE CHALLENGE IS TO "MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL"

I do have this car engine sitting in my workshop NSU 1200TT

 8) 8) 8) ;)
Funky.

Ain't it pretty. :)

Well, that particular Wildcat is fairly acceptable, until I saw the price! almost £8k!, plus a donor vehicle! bloody hell, well that was the reason for publishing the orig. Metaski, I could, if inclined, build one similar for myself for,,,,,£1K,give or take, and that's the point,for me trike building is the current extension of a fairly long involvement with all things motorcycle, and is an all absorbing hobby!!,however, I accept that I have the gear and skills to realise such projects, and also accept that those who unfortunately do not, should not be excluded, but once prices of that magnitude are bandied about, I start to switch off!so, its "horses for courses" I suppose, if you have the cash for this type of kit,fine, for me finance apart, it would hold no interest, Morrag

To see just how pretty that motor can be check out the Munch Mamut, of 40 years ago, Morrag

or  ;D

Very pretty, as is the similar Henderson, and which is why, i suppose, in a far more universall guise, is the ubiquitous Reliant 850!!of which to date i have seen no better examples that the series of machines produced by Mr M. and his cohorts! something to ponder on perhaps? Morrag

Recon that NSU would look good in a bobber Shaun. Wouldn't look bad in a rat rod either

That's why I'm going to knock up a stainless exhaust system like that.
The big cruisers, coming out now, are emulating what Harley Davidson in league with Triumph, killed off.
Indian, Henderson.
Your eyes can linger long, over something so clean and simple.
That horizontal slash of chrome piping, is a perfect foil for the block set between the wheels.

Although I was "lifting" the idea from the old MG K3 Magnettes.
The simplicity of the early MGs, and such, are tight and taut little bits of kit.

Until the GuzzPig box is done and in, we can't really offer up the pipework to a softail rear end.

5.5 wide 15 inch chrome wires, with spinners on a cut down MGB axle.

Off to work now!!
Keep kicking the good stuff around.

Panthershaun....Piccy of that mock up, please!

 

Thats the plan, I'm hoping to take my mate Mads's Indian/NSU (see above) as inspiration for my own Bobber build but run with 16" wheels front and rear. I do have manifolds for either single or twin carbs depending on space ;D ;D


Got similar plans for my Reliant engine, but I want to use a pair of the 17" Ford model Y wires I have.


Do you mean the Indian/NSU pictured above?

 :)
Nope.
Brit Chopper>forum>Readers rides>The Trike Shed>Bikes,Trikes>Trike Idea  (phew!)
Has a nice minimalist, almost Victorian rocking horse feel to it. You have a nice eye for the forms playing against each other.
An evocotive Konstrukt.
White Coker tyres?
Hand made, 1920s style tank?

Ahh you mean this

that was a rough rough mock up, still planning on building it and I have most of the parts now except tube for the rear frame.
I have had a few more idea's for her since then as well but they are under my hat for now ;)
The dimensions you see here are Harley Servicar but I'm going allot smaller, not sure about the tank yet I will have to see how she progresses  8) 8) 8) but it will be hand shift and I'm thinking foot clutch as well.

 :) :) "Felt" Servi.
I wonder what my old one is up too?

Just been looking at the Burapa Bike Week pictures, Pattaya, Thailand on
Brit Chopper>The Comfy Shed>General Banter>Burapa Bike Week.
This one has GONE already! Feb 13-14th.

Pathershaun, why not link up with Desp to make a straight 12!

The Zeppelin Maybang sounds fantastic, I just saw the videos.

Small autos are notoriously bad at transmitting power, although in a light trike that might not be such an issue. I wonder if a conventional box with a slipper/auto clutch might not be better?

Was gonna get a Guzzi CONVERT box T'other day.
Needed loads of work. ::)
Want to get my rebuild on the road. :'( :'( :'(
Guzzi bits are here this week. ;D
Ran out of money - Not enthusiasm. >:(
Worked out a reverse mod aswell! - Brock! ;D ;D ;D

ALL ON COURSE. Albeit SLOWLY.

Bump, I said BUMP ;D ;D ;D any news  ??? ???

Out of my hands sadly but I still have the drawings and licence to make them.

thats a shame mate, I wonder how similar Ural and Guzzi boxes are  ??? ??? ;)

have you thought of using a saab auto box?

very small and compact plus reverse!

What model?

99 and 900 series

saw a v nice trike with saab engine and box, looked v neat..

hhhm wonder if a saab box would fit onto an 1800 subaru motor? anyone got photos of saab box?

(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i90/gsxrsam/95-auto-trans-removal-3.jpg)

That must be a 99 box, cos the 900 is pretty big, front wheel drive and, well, a bit weird!
Diagram here...http://www.thesaabsite.com/shop/catimages/900transmission.jpg

But, i think you could take the input that comes from above the box off and run it like a gearbox/diff. Like a de dion set up I think. Like a 924 porker or 340 volvo, or some alfas.

95 i think it is... cheap as