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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: klogan45 on July 19, 2008, 05:14:15 PM



Title: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: klogan45 on July 19, 2008, 05:14:15 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Phoenix-Trike-VW-based-3-seater-body-frame-pack_W0QQitemZ320276510278QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320276510278&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Phoenix-Trike-VW-based-3-seater-body-frame-pack_W0QQitemZ320276510278QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320276510278&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318)

Hi guys, saw this on fleabay. They also do a two seater. I hope that I got the link right!!!!! Hehehe!! I checked and the link worked..Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! ;D
What do you think? I quite fancy one myself. Comments, suggestions etc please
Regards
K


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: tazet on July 19, 2008, 07:21:17 PM
Not really my sort of thing but if it's what you like and want then go for it.


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 19, 2008, 07:41:16 PM
Nice, clean simple design. Tried & tested -hundreds on the road so they must be O.K -but that's also the problem. Being a kit, they all look the same, like a Caterham/Lotus 7/Dutton for example. They only vary in the level of finish the builders invest in them.
Not a one-off design, so at some point you'll park up somewhere & another near identical machine will pull up next to you, but that also means all the foreseeable problems have been encountered before many times &, (hopefully), ironed out.
As they say, you pays yer money & takes yer choice.  ;)


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: reliantman on July 19, 2008, 07:46:37 PM
Keith.
I don't know what facilities you have there, but I think you could build your self a frame for a lot less than that, and buy one of those budget fibreglass bodies off ebay for 200-odd.

 Have a look at-http://members.tripod.com/slacker_gsroadart/

He uses a frame made with 2 x 3 rectangular box section, and it looks a lot stronger than the Pheonix one.
Hundreds of yanks have built them so they must be ok.

 Hope you don't mind my 2 1/2 pence worth.


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: klogan45 on July 20, 2008, 01:27:14 PM
Thanks Doug, I've had a good look and all the info is there but I've had a really mental idea :o there are a few non running goldwings about at the moment. Can anyone tell me if a reliant engine and gearbox would fit. Yes, before anyone says it the wing lump would have to come out ;D ;D ;D
Thanks again
K


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: reliantman on July 20, 2008, 03:57:47 PM
I would gues that there is plenty of room in a Gold Wing frame.

I have some pics of bare frames I took off E bay. I will post them asap.

I can't find the pics I have, which is annoying.
I just got his one off ebay-US. There is nothing on the UK site.


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: klogan45 on July 20, 2008, 06:51:59 PM
Thanks again Doug, I think what I will do is look for a non runner and go from there. Have you any idea of the size and weight of a reliant engine and gearbox. Like overall length and height?
Thanks again
Regards
K


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: Manky Monkey on July 20, 2008, 07:17:56 PM
Full Reliant specs here mate:

Motors, 3 wheels section (http://mankymonkeymotors.co.uk/Trikespageimages/reliant/engine.html)


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: reliantman on July 21, 2008, 07:43:46 AM
After looking all over for my disc, I found it this morning. There is only one more pic of a Gold wing frame, but I know I had two or three good ones.
Here it is.


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: klogan45 on July 21, 2008, 02:25:37 PM
Thanks Doug, it sure do look big enough, with a bit of chopping and welding it will do very nicely sir!!!
Regards
K


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: reliantman on July 21, 2008, 08:00:17 PM
No worry.
Try not to chop the frame up too much, or it will be too 'modified'.
If you could make a small subframe up which hung off the swingarm mounts, you could fit a four link system, and perhaps get away with saying the back end is bolt on.


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: SteveRedd on August 07, 2008, 07:16:37 PM
I own an original phoenix and it is pretty awful, the frame flexes and on mine ( it is an original) none of the brakets and bars line up with each other...it was so bad I called it Horrie...short for Trikus Horribilis...I will be building a new frame for it when I finish the current build


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 07, 2008, 07:25:41 PM
Amazing what you can hide under a fibreglass body isn't it. Not bragging, but when you start looking at some of the stuff at shows, (both bike & car), you soon realise that there's an awful lot of ugly or even downright dangerous workmanship out there. Our trikes are seriously over engineered for the horse power but at least we know they're safe.


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: dracken1 on August 07, 2008, 09:23:21 PM
Amazing what you can hide under a fibreglass body isn't it. Not bragging, but when you start looking at some of the stuff at shows, (both bike & car), you soon realise that there's an awful lot of ugly or even downright dangerous workmanship out there. Our trikes are seriously over engineered for the horse power but at least we know they're safe.

you certainly have that right. i see some right botched up trikes at my place which have been bought in good faith.


Title: Re: Phoenix trike body and frame
Post by: Manky Monkey on August 07, 2008, 10:56:06 PM
Trouble is Wynne, a lot of Joe Public can't see the difference & happily risk life & limb on machines I wouldn't ride to the end of the carpark. All they see is the shiny paintjob.