Manky Monkey Motors

right at the moment this will be just for ideas until i've sold me mustang to free up some money, and not all money from that can be used for project.

i've got a couple of motors i'd like which are not hotrod based.

both at different ends of the spectrum, a scimitar and vw beetle.

will need to have 4 seats, a roof and economical(ish!!!)

I'd go beetle,parts are easily available not to dear and big resale market when the time comes

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I bought and drove a SE6 back from Gloucester way, on an auto and returned about 28 on arun which I thought was quite reasonable.

I do like a good Beetle as well ;)

I love Volkswagens in any shape or form but the Scimitar is really cool cos you don't see as many of them!

scimitar is winning it at the moment, got some body mods in mind, nothing crazy.
will need to be an auto(yes i've got lazy, but love driving them now in traffic and cruising along)

Had an SE6 about 20 years ago as always liked them (SE6 is the later model to the SE5 in the photos. Scimitar the did the "hot cross bun" add-in to make it wider and longer) .
SE6 has more space, but not as pretty as the SE5. Both ran the Ford Essex V6, and they drank fuel..... It did have a big tank, but even in back then, folk in petrol stations used to comment on how much it cost to top up!!

Scimitar bodies (fibreglass) can unbolt form the chassis, which makes fixing (welding) the outriggers a bit more safe. Front trunnions wear, engines an overheat as they need a header tank mod done to allow the coolant filler cap be raised (to prevent air traps). There is some load space in the rear, but only the glass hinges up, so watch your head on the edge when loading as there's a large stepped edge to get things over.  ::)
Window rubbers can age, fibreglass can craze (but doesn't rust!), door can drop on hinges.

The earlier SE4 saloons are now rare, and in my view a head turner. SE4a has a straight 6 Ford, SE4b has V6, then the SE4c had another straight 6.

http://www.scimitargt.co.uk/ScimitarGT/Coupe_History.html

Picture of an SE4 saloon

For inspiration, try Ecstasy, the '70's funny car.............   8)

love the coupe models but money won't stretch that far.
think it will be a se5 or se5a
wheel change, a few body work changes(i've been known to dable with f/glass in the past!!!!)
would like to do a custom dash etc.

Scimitar get's my vote, mix in a little AC Cobra with bubble arches and fat wheels...

been some very cheap scimitars on flea bay  ;)

using this for ideas.

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Jenson?  8) 8)

yes, would love one someday.

i'm guessing a ford 302 will fit in place of essex.

or maybe i should build something original kev?!!!!!! ;D

LOL . Nope, build what is expected and you'll fit right in with all the other non comformists ;)

shock horror its down to 2 vehicles, both air cooled engines, both at different ends!!!!

2cv or beetle.

never owned either.

think the beetle has been done lots, but not seen many snails about, the only problem is, is that prices are rising like no tomorrow!!!!

There's some nice 2cv based 'rods' about , they are chassied as well so no reg worries with cutting them up .Like you say getting dearer for a decent one. However there's nothing quite so disheartening as spending months welding something back together before you actually start on the enjoyable bit.

does anybody know anything about BMW R series flat twin motorcycle engines? as a kit is available to fit to 2cv gearbox.
they've even tested it on track.

TRUE

very.

thats the bit i'm looking forward to!

I got bored with doing that bit after 30 years ;)

mate has a 2cv for sale Chris.. just passed it's mot  8)

it could take me 30 years to get it done!

need to sell mustang first.

mustang sold, bought a cheap daily runabout, hopefully going to look at a classic motor tomorrow, was expecting to get a project, but this is on the road!!! rather excited considering i've owned 2 of these before!!!

A Reliant Robin?

erm..............no, but i've been a passenger in one with a racing driver!!!! never agian!!!!  lol

lets try again, going to view another vehicle tomorrow evening, french this time.

snail??  8)

 ;)

deposit left!!!!!

well here is the new project, 1987 2cv dolly. taxed and mot'ed. same owner from 6 months old.
needs a little bit of welding on the bottom of a-posts, new alternator and will need roof replacing at some point.
left a deposit, will be delivered soon.

these are the only pics i've got.

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its had new seats fitted.

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Nice :) So what mods are planned  :D

 ;D

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 :-\ Vegy Wagon ???

rat rod  ;) ;)

Surely it a frog rod. ;)

 ;D ;D ;D

cool, are you going to reverse the engine/box like Olly as well to get the front wheels "out there" ???

Like it a lot, can we see a bit more of that silver machine. Also "frog rod" spat me weetabix all over the table, very good.

;D
http://www.ollierkkila.com/

i wondered how he managed that, not see any pics showing engine and g/box.
will it not have 4 reverse gears?

just found this in my show history

waiting for it to be delivered, the owners wife has said that her husband will cry :-\!!!

He will if he finds out you're going to chop it up!

you can flip the diff in a 2cv, if you have ever seen one of the 4x4 desert one's they had a 2nd engine in the rear but reversed :)

had a good search on the snail but failed to find the pic's of the engine  :(

i cannot find any pics of ollies engine gearbox.

Ive seen some really nice pickups made from this base.

http://snail.s4.bizhat.com/snail-ftopic816-75.html

That's really cool. Great thinking out side the box and putting the engine and box in the back (still in it's standard orientation). Like this a lot.

That really is nicely engineered, and first class..........mmmmm

just got my insurance sorted, funnily its less than the mustang, no admin fees and they owe me money!!!!!

new brushes fitted, ready for refitting to 2cv alternator. not bad for £6!!! and done within 10mins walking distance. result!!! rotating electrics, escort road, great yarmouth. excellent service done within an hour!!! better than £20 plus at most online sellers.

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first drive to work in the snail today, great fun!!!!

wheres best place to buy white wall paint? mr whitewalls? or else where?

little bit of lowering going to happen and a splash of paint, which some people won't like. not redoxide or matt black!!!

Ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tyre-Wall-Paint-250ml-White-mad-Cow-Whitewall-Hot-Rod-Rat-Classic-car-muscle-/321168400810?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyre_Trims_Trims_ET&hash=item4ac720e1aa

cheers for the link, got some being sent from a friend.

looks like the fuel tank is coming out to repair sender unit.
also you may have noticed thread name change, this is due to a colour change, which will be happening in next few weeks(weather dependant!!!)

Strange title  ???
Ah a new paint job ! :D
So is it going to be metallic, pearl, prismatic, flip flop, gloss or just plain turd.  ;D

plain turd!!!!!

I apologise. That was a bit below the belt.

it hit me between the legs, bit of a s**te!!!! lol

its lower!!! but needs more lows!!! ;D

ok, heres some pics, but be warned its still 4x4, but lower than stock.
need to get the back down so the nut in middle of cap is at bottom of fender.
front a little more, but may need some longer connecting rods.

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So you pleased with it Chris? What do the family think?

the boyz gone mad  :D :D

the kids hate it ;D

i love it. :D

looks like i'll need some of these.

http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/suspension-longer-25mm-than-standard-p-1618.html

and cut n weld me front arms to get correct caster.

and its also now got a side exit peashooter!!!

well, this is the colour for the sh*troen. i said a lot of people won't like it!!!
gloss black wheels with whitewalls and a few extra parts added. will also have a new black hood/roof.

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Brush on? I'm curious to see how that looks.

An unusual colour. Not saying that I don't like it but, you are a braver man than I Gunga Din (apologies to RK ).

I rolled the finish on both he POS ( cellulose) and the A pick up , B&Q finest satinwood.

this goes on and looks grey, it dries a lot darker.

same as this on my old pop.

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this is as low as it can go without lengthened suspension rods, also is a pic of my tempory repaired hood, might do whole roof like it!!!!

first pic stock height.

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Nice  :D
( in a deep voice) How low, can you go !         
Low enough it seems.  Not sure how long that fog lamp will last.  :D

different rear lights are in the plan as originals remind me of trailer lights.
will mount the fog light up in the panel, think they will be round lucas ones.

wow not a big fan of 2cv's but that makes such a difference

i have always wanted one but never had the courage to buy one, plus i've now got to the stage where i don't care what other people think.

I've found that one of the few advantages of increasing age!

never have cared much about other folk's opinions  ;D

"peer pressure" has never factored with me either

paint here, new roof and repair panel ordered, few days off so lets hope for good weather.

roof is going to be something different to normal ;D

Loony & I were driving around Basingstoke yesterday & passed a guy working on a 2CV at the side of the road. Not sure if he lived there or had broken down, but in an hour or so he'd completely stripped the front end bodywork, done some work on the engine & replaced everything -at least they're easy to work on!

everything unbolts, people have done a re-chassis in a day!!!!!

one panel replaced!!!
first job, remove boot lid, easy as there are no end caps!!!
just slide it off.
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as you can see, rather rusty!!!
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rather a lot missing.
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and how it should look.

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back together and re-taped.

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found the end caps under the dash!!

hope to get new hood material/sheet tomorrow.

and going lower!!!!

wheel paint bought.

So it'll be finished by the weekend then?

roof started!!!

suppose I better take some pics!!!

this is what was left of the window surround!!!
not a lot.
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plan of attack was to remove hood including rear window, then cover with aluminium sheet but still having a opening hood section at front.

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a few more fixings are needed.

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got to paint this metal panel in between.

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got to get some black boat acrylic material to make new front hood section.

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I want to fit an oval rear window.

also relocated the front no/plate onto the bumper.

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Are you painting the roof body colour or black to look like the original Chris?

no andy, it will be raw aluminium.

also relocated the front no/plate onto the bumper.

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also going to panel in the rear1/4 side windows.

just notice I double posted!!!! oops.

some paint has been applied, even though I feel like poo.

and its raining.

heres a quick pic, wanted to get on with painting the rest this week but the daily has failed its mot with a 2 page list!!!!

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Time to use the Citroen as the daily then.

but daily also needs taxing at end of month!!!!

looks like this is going to be used daily for the moment as the daily astra(silver one parked behind in one of the pics) is going for scrap.

I can think of worse things to drive round in - and you'll be justified in spending whatever it needs, THEN get a new daily!    ;)

more paint been applied!!!!

Now what kind of statement is that without pictures  ;D

needs even more paint to be pic worthy!!!

heres the pics, not much to look at,for the moment.

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The colour lookis better than I expected, but will is it going all over or will ther be some contrast panels?

all over apart from roof.

I also had doubts about the colour but it really suits the car. I take my hat off to you sir. :)

Yup, nice colour. Think I'd paint the roof too -& fill the side windows to create a van!

I'm with Andy on this , but I do like the colour

No I think it definitely needs the contrast!

glad some of you like it, its a bit marmite.
drew a crowd on its first outing to Wednesday night car club, and no piss taking!!!!
no paint on the roof.
red wheels with whitewalls.

first outing at our car club.

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pics by Mark Brockmeister Brock

more paint applied. soon be all covered.

been working out rear window size.

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also paint situation.

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What about a split 'D' rear window echoing the shape of the front and rear doors ?  Plus panel in the very rear most side window?  Oh yeah, and break out the 4" radiator roller , it'll look like you sprayed the paint then.

tried the roller kev, just cannot get the hang of it!!! thought about split oval, jury out at moment.  yes them rear 1/4 windows will be panelled in.

last update for today, wanted to take wheels off and paint them tonight but road is to be dug up tomorrow so will have to wait!!!!
bumpers had quick coat of satin black, lights have had a coat of a darker shade of matt brown(looks the same) still unsure on rear window.

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You need to use the foam roller.

I have kev, me and a roller don't mix!!!! apart from doing fibreglass work, then bigger the better!!!

also need to replace and move them side repeaters.

Do you need a rear window?
The curve may make a large one difficult but small split rear windows might look good and would be easier.

Have you thought of covering the rear side ,door and back window if you fit one with 1% limo black have it on my parts chaser , cant see in but can see out easily 

or what about a couple of portholes?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-x-9-Polished-Brass-Porthole-Glass-Window-Nautical-Maritime-/261173256060?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ccf239f7c

If the quarterlights were curved glass they would look good in that rear panel.

not much done today, little bit of painting, wheels sprayed, ready for whitewalls.

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with or without caps?

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not much of rear wheel to see!!!!

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Hmm, wonder if the local council will guess who sprayed their road red?!  :D

nah not me guvnor!!!!   :D

Hm, wheels are very red - are they going to have chrome or white nave plates? - to go with the whitewalls?

photoshopped.

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hood material and shockcord ordered.

Shockcord?

elastic/ bungee.

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Still wonder if the wheel centres need a contrast..

For a 2CV, just how much elastic/bungee do you need, and how do you wind it up ?  ;) :D
Think BG might be right about white hub caps/naves. Easy to try with some white emulsion.

I might put the centre caps back on/in.

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I like that look - but of course it's your motor!

Really like what your doing with it but i would put centre caps back on. ;D

been busy on the s**troen this afternoon, everything went nearly to plan, one or two problems to sort. also took off the protective plastic on aluminium roof.

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whitewall paint here!!!  ;D

Panel in the rear quarter lights by boxing in the rear arches, extending up in a tapering, sweeping curve to the gutter line. Extend the 3 vertical swage lines in the bootlid up into the roof so they split the rear window into 2 quadrant shapes, (bottom of the rear windows straight to match the top of the bootlid). Paint the roof brown so it's part of the body. Raise the bumpers level with the bodywork instead of hanging below it. French new circular rear lights into the rear bumper & paint the bumpers body colour. Half French the front lights into the front wings, so they're still obviously Citroen originals, but level with the top of the wings & partly set back into them, (think the front indicators are already partly set in aren't they? So they'd match). That'd lose those horizontal light mounting bars that spoil the curves at the front. Lose the plastic grille shell & cut a new one into the bonnet in the shape of the Citroen chevrons. Back it with mesh, painted black & maybe highlight the edge with chrome edging trim or add a raised lip around it in 8mm round bar painted body colour.

Or slam it to the deck with full skirts on the front wings to match the rears, then paint it white with blacked out windows & some sci fi accessories, fake jet engine cowls etc to create a Star Wars type hover vehicle.

Or play up it's quirky shape & go Steampunk, with lots of brass detailing & fake cogs & copper tubing & a polished wooden dash full of antique gauges, with sumptuous Victorian red velvet seating, (think Jules Verne's time machine in the film).

Lots of potential, but like the Minx gasser, I reckon you need to commit to it & go over the top to properly pull it off.  ;)

this is to be kept simple.

Pah!

next vehicle is'nt!!!  :o  ::) ;D

Aha!

everyone has the next one planned don't they?

done this last week, seems to be staying on ok. just got to do the rest!!!!

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Whitewalls? What's that behind the front wheel? I think your engine's fallen out!

whos white wall paint is it have been told to only buy from Mr whitewall in stafford but it is the most expensive

haha andy!!!!  :P

whitewall paint is from iceland, believe it could be same as mr whitewalls as its very expensive to buy, around £35 a tin!!!!!(bigger size than mr w....)

i bought mine cheap from a mate who did'nt want it.  ;D

Did your Mum go to Icelands for you?

lol!!! waiting for that!!!

bit more done on the s**troen.

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It really is looking rather good!

thank you, very much appreciated.

just aviod ,puddles,, ::) they dont call em ,puddle jumpers, for nowt,, :o :o

if they dont jump em ,, the ignition gets drowned ,,ie. the coils behind the flywheel get soaked ..==easiest fix is to leave them in a warm garage/place with a dehumidifier for a few days.week otherwise its an engine out to dry em out ,,

been there done that,,

coils are at front on top of fan. need changing as they get too hot and give trouble on starting when hot.

 ??? On EBAY allready  ???

yep.  miss me mustang  :(

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251611366861?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Can you get your Mustang back?
I assume you are an east coast pirate then. Very subtle!

that was suppose to be smaller!!!!  lol

things could be changing on the vehicle front.

oops no they are not. bloody timewasters!!!!!  grrrrrrr........

had enough of the wasters on ebay, gumtree etc the s**troen is going to get roof chopped etc. and lose a few body panels (wings!!!!) plus some mechanical work.

 :o :o :o :o :o ;D

Do it, do it, do it!!

know the feeling about time wasters what a set of w@~~@ers
 is it that they can stay anonimus (spell check off)
btw I'll give you a fiver for the Sh*troen. if it's delivered with a full tank of fuel

go for it bud  ;D 8) ;D

cheers shaun, do you know of any underbonnet pics of olli's 2cv?

I will see what I can find sir ;)

cheers.

Stoopid question, but can't you turn the engine/gearbox around?

that was the original plan andy, still might go with that.

that's what Olli did  ;D

i'm worried about cooling.

big chance its going for something v8 powered.
but not a vehicle welcome in the classic, rod or american vehicle world. i need to get a few things sorted at home so there will not be
a project vehicle from me for a while.

maybe not  :(

So you've still got the Citroen? Or sold it & the next one's fallen through?

her in charge said no to the swap!!!!!!

I think that 2cv's are cooled by the fan but don't quote me for that...... I see valley gas are chopping a 2cv now :)

noticed that on there site shaun,
yes the fan is very important. its coming of the road by the weekend so will be able to disect it and have a proper look.

first part of many removed.

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Sorry, I cant see what part is missing? :-[

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Did it fall off ? 
Sorry couldn't resist. :D
I assume from what you said we can expect to see a lot more bits disappearing.

yes and yes!!!!!

It's amazing how much better it looks without!

I totally agree now I can see it, it does look better without :)

i've got some underbonnet pics of this  ;D

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been looking for under bonnet pics of this,

(http://www.super2cv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Olli2cvhotrod.jpg)

put a shout out on f/b 2cv page and someone kindly posted these.

they show how the engine is mounted 180'

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55436525898fa2.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5543652590700a.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5543652593a827.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/55436525972820.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/554365259abb22.jpg)

Coo, those doors look like a lot of work.
Is that engine reversal do-able as a DIY job in front of your house Chris, or a major fabrication job?

i'll stick it in garage round the back, in the dry!!!!
does mean i'll have to raise it up to get it in.

been hastily pushed back into daily use!!!!

looking good bud.. glad you found those pictures as I completely forgot to ask  :-[ :-[ :-[ anyone got a spare brain??? mine is beyond help  :-\

getting parts together to do some work on the old girl, going for a full aluminium roof, with folding 2part front section.

colour chosen.

So what is it this time ?  :)

actually its between two!!!!!

one's in ya face the other is'nt!!!

So.....   Between red and white - is it PINK?

this,
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5546ba7a5adb0c.jpg)

or this!!!!!!
(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/5546ba7a61ca43.jpg)

Both -two tone!

the purple....in matt

Found this very interesting picture in this Sundays Times.

(http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy95/phunkie_hiboy/img006_1024_x_768_zpsbd6000db.jpg) (http://s781.photobucket.com/user/phunkie_hiboy/media/img006_1024_x_768_zpsbd6000db.jpg.html)

Rear engined?

Yes, but maybe front engine as well. You can do the rear engine conversion using standard parts (ie parts from the front end!!). French foreign legion used a type of jeep (Mehari) based on the 2CV chassis with the two engine 4 wd set up.

purple is out now. (unless the ladies come with it!!!!!)

new rear tyres bought(awaiting delivery) not crossplys but radials.

also had trouble with battery not having much cranking power. found out the battery(fitted by previous owner just before i bought it) is way below the cranking spec that it should be!!!! so will have to buy a new one. this is third time i'm having to charge it!!!!

How's it going though Chris? Working out alright as a daily driver? Has Mrs Poprodder grown to like it yet?

not using it daily now,  only when weather is good!!!!(so not very often!!!! lol)

parts being bought for make-over. ;D

mrs poprodder will love the new colour(when its painted!!!)

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,PINK,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

NO!!!!!

This is start of the front section of roof for 2cv, original roof frame cut and welded to nos front hood bar, so that it can still be clamped down inside. Aluminium sheet was then riveted to it, this section of roof will be in two sections, folding in the middle onto itself then onto rear roof.

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/554b67769ee072.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/554b6776a5d1b5.jpg)

(http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/554b6776a8e6a4.jpg)

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just need to bend it round the front bar!!!

Roof chop it!

not yet!!!!!

Might be best to wait till summer for that !  :)

got paint.

Posted on FaceBook by PantherShaun for Chris's attention.
Personally I'd prefer it without the wood, in a single colour, but that's quite achievable isn't it?

Love the wood !  Sticky back plastic here we come !!

 ;D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_54ce9046a5939.jpg)

its whiter tonight!!!!  >:(

will get a pic when i go to bed.

also could be change of direction!!!!

to match the new paint colour!!!! wild ;D

Why not do a chop job like Chris Ireland did with his then bung a V8 in for good measure.

Perfect.   :)

up the road from me.

Well that stopped play on the roof of 2cv!!!
(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_54d3875e5fa1b.jpg)

the roof was to be folding, but after 3 different methods i've given up on it, will be fixed now.

this will be the colour, but will dry darker, deeper purple.

could be a name down the side  ;)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_54d394a638223.jpg)

could also have one of these  ;D

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_54d395f65d03a.jpg)

(https://stoptalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/shhh2.jpg)

Roof chop it!
The Purple Pain?

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/running-snail-character-27647535.jpg)

Roof finished, not perfect but good enough.

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_54d4e4d70688c.jpg)

Chop it, chop it, chop it!!

nope.

It's on a chassis  you can go wild on the body with no registration implications !!

i've thought of a rebody kev, but not with this one.

steering wheel ordered, just got to wait for it to cross the pond. (via Langy's Rod Shop)

coming off the road tomorrow for a make-over.

Chopping it?

nope, will go something like this,

purple, purple, some aluminium, some holes, some more purple, new rubber, more purple, new front seats, some fur,some purple, new steering wheel,  and to finish some more purple!!!!  :D

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_54e3a1cae09e3.jpg)

2cv all tucked up in the garage. back at 4x4 height!!!! lol

Lowered, rear engined, stretched front, tall rear tyres, crossplies all round, filled rear side windows, copper paint with lots of fake rivets, (steampunk style).
And a savage roof chop.

i've been looking at smart engines, in there own subframe complete with suspension.
price puts me off.

A mate of mine had one in his workshop for a while, (just the engine). I wondered about using it in a trike, but they're "fly by wire" with all sorts of sensors & stuff. Really needed the entire wiring loom too.

i'm guessing a lot of hassle, engineered by mercedes!!!!

also a twin diesel has flashed through me mind a few times, but would sound like a dump truck!!!!

but a turbo one with exhaust through the bonnet  8)

a sneak peek!!!!!

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_54f20963044ee.jpg)

Very subtle.  :D

the whole car will be  ;D

You got a purple people eater in that bag?

furry ,, :D :D :D :D

looks better!!!!

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_54f5cae279dfb.jpg)

It's poiple.

sure is  ;D

right peoples, need some advice.

body will be dark purple, will have a signwritten name down the side, just need some pointers on what colour to do it?

also need to paint the steel wheels, but again got no idea!!!

any ideas?

cheers chris.

Deep Purple, not dark purple, surely?
Gold leaf lettering!

(http://www.bigbeadlittlebead.com/guides_and_information/Colour_Theory/01_BBLB_The_Colour_Wheel.jpg)
go accross the colour wheel for max contrast! and metallic











so yeah gold leaf

Gold leaf 8)

Gold or white.

Or lime green.

i've had the roller out!!!! no pics yet.

also ordered lime green paint(1shot)

Purple, more purple, lime green and acres of purple fur.
Sounds like a 70s pimp-mobile. ;)  Can't wait to see the result.

i am a 70's child!!!!

looks brighter in real life!!!!

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_5509aea9c2d6d.jpg)

like it  ;D

Kawasaki green.

1shot sublime green.

Pea soup.

Either there is something wrong with the colours on my monitor or you must be getting your pea soup from AWRE Andy

Green with what looks like a pea floating in it -that makes it pea soup in my book.

;D Okay it's just me then. Need to turn the colours and brightness down a bit. I thought it was going to be dayglo  :D

decided to buy the tyres i wanted today, sod it you only live once.

 :) pie crust slicks?

strip down has begun!!!!

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551ac85c9f990.jpg)

There's no going back now -may as well roof chop it!  ;D

 front axle will be moved around 12" forward, engine and gearbox will be turned round. diff will also need turning otherwise i will have 4 reverse gears!!!!

cross ply's all round, no wings(but cycle fenders)

got some rust repairs to do, so no roof chop yet.

Yes! Radical is what it needs. Watching with interest.

Fenders are what my Grannie use to have around her fireplace to stop hot coals burning the carpet, in polished brass! bloody fenders....................... :D :D :D :D :D

oooooooooo polished brass fenders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

radical seems not enough

engine is nearly ready to be lifted out, and my april fool joke(on f/b) could of come true, look at the state of that fuel line!!! new needed front to back!!!!

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551c2194b797c.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551c2180bba16.jpg)

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(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551c218d4078c.jpg)

Surely if you are turning the engine and gearbox around, it should be 'new needed back to front'  ;D
OK, I'll get my coat.

something wrong here!!!!!  lol

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551d855fbdc07.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551d855b7537d.jpg)

new tyres turned up.

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551d855dc110d.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551d855ec79d4.jpg)

front and rear.

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_551d855d73efb.jpg)

so, does someone jump out, run forward, change gear and then jump back in ?? My big brother had a old Ford Pilot, we used to jump out and shine a torch to see if the lights were on !

 ;D So run me through this again -you build a remote gear linkage, running back over/around the engine? So the gearshift positions will be reversed? Then what? How do you get forward gears instead of 4 reverses? I'm confoosed.

the diff is reversed in the gearbox. yes that easy!!!! 
the gearshift pattern is strange anyway so altering it won't make much difference.

You can change the pattern back to 'correct' by varying the new shifter pivot point from base to midway.

its in lots of bits!!!!!! :o

found this pic on f/b, answered a lot of problems and given more ideas (+work  ::)  )

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_5526b270f0a86.jpg)

Is that inboard drum brakes?

yep, mine has discs.

oh bugger, not good when hammering an item on the 2cv and parts of rotten chassis fall on the floor!!!!!!

Uh-oh ! A bit more work required then.
The only consolation is a separate chassis is easier to repair.

Having looked at a 'bare' 2CV chassis a few years ago, I remember thinking that it would be a fairly straight forward job to replicate one out of 90x40mm box section, or similar, so, bit like Heralds and Spits. remove body & just rehang all the bits.. :D :D :D :D :D, although I understand new, after market, chassis are still available, which is what the Lomax 3 wheeler was based around, just a thought! Morrag

just done a quick calculation of parts needed for 2cv, this does not include anything i've spent so far plus any of the little extras that might be needed. just off the shelf parts. £666!!!!! blimey!! plus it could realy do with new chassis which is £600, then lots and lots of extra's

Soon starts mounting up don't it.

Big mistake, :o start counting and Ouch!!

Just been and looked closer at 2cv chassis, past saving. Looks like this could be broken for spares.

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0beb044ab.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0be7bd878.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0bec827a4.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0bed43e3e.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0befb3501.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0be7bdcac.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0be81455e.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0be97ef0b.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0be7c49ee.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0bf0544ed.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0bef49dee.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0beed650d.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_552d0bf223dea.jpg)

these are just where i could easily get to.

Think you may be right  :(

still undecided what to do with this.

Start a new thread in the Trike section perhaps.

Could make an interesting tadpole

Lomax or a Blackjack avion   ;D

i've made a decision, steel ordered for new 2cv chassis.

will be a lightweight chassis. need to remove body first, some parts of original chassis will be used. (cross tubes with suspension mounts on ends)

Time to go radical!  ;D

You know what - it's the thread title that did it - turned out to be a bit too close to the truth didn't it?   :o

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

yes!!!!

i've been starting stripping interior out, and omg!!!! think i might have to give up on this, no idea how it was mot'ed last year.
rot everywhere.
i'm glad its off the road now, not going back on.

will take some pics tomorrow to show how bad it is.

It's got to be 3 wheels then, simple ladder chassis, one rear suspension arm reversed............your half way there.. ;D ;D ;D

could be sold.

not sold, stupid offer!!!!

but not given up on it.

will be getting the knot wheel out at weekend, plus sparking the mig up. more steel plate being delivered next week.

will still have original chassis. :)

pics to follow. 

i've taken some more pics of 2cv, more chassis rot found after removing engine and box, a little more rot inside, but finding patches welded on everywhere. losing heart in it. not even looked on the nearside yet!!!!! time to make some decisions.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.485185064966014.1073741840.100004235734054&type=1&l=75c6811346

Bit like my daughter's Fiat 127 that she loved so much - she took it to a welder who said he's love to fix the floor for her but there was nothing decent to weld it to!  (She took it to the scrapyard and even they didn't want it!)

Chassis work has started for the 2cv!!! Lol

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_553e59590fd22.jpg)

That's a very small chassis!

lightweight!!!!!!

After spending a day and half fabricating a new chassis I thought I'd make a start on removing body, bonnet first and oh f**k what a mess.  what a pile of s**te.

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_5540cc57de65a.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_5540cc5449a76.jpg)

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pissed off is an understatement!!!!! think i'll leave it in there to rot.

Chris, I honestly think it's time to call it quits on that :(

me too kev.

Think it's already done that.

Sorry mate. Time to cut your losses on his one. :(

i've got a plan. not for the purist mind!!!! lol

Wont find many purists here. Is it a cunning plan.  :D

Someone has been here before me!!! Good old p40!!!

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_55412564e9999.jpg)

(http://www.torquedup.co.uk/forum/imagehosting/usr_images/8/0/80_554125673e183.jpg)

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the dark brush paint was the clue   ;) ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251942348835?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649

sold, spoken to buyer (local teacher) its going to be broken for spares.

So the hunt's on for another project -again?

yep, looking at a rebody this time.

https://www.facebook.com/chrisdralph/posts/490463167771537?pnref=story