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Technical Section => HotRod Tech => Topic started by: Wulfgar on November 13, 2006, 07:19:36 PM



Title: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 13, 2006, 07:19:36 PM
Just found this, i know it's not a hot rod but what do you think, could this be a cheap upgrade if i keep this damn car?

(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4729/dscf002320copycy1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2725/dcp4289ov7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: lunatic on November 13, 2006, 07:42:10 PM
Its the only way to go if you have a 4x4! Jack up kit and 44" tyres! ;D Lovely!


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 13, 2006, 07:51:36 PM
Its the only way to go if you have a 4x4! Jack up kit and 44" tyres! ;D Lovely!

Me and you need to have a chat  ;D ;D

The one i've got is the 4ltr straight 6 high output, bog standard and boring.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: panthershaun on November 14, 2006, 08:37:05 AM
Thats an off road HotRod, love it. Go for it Rob ;D ;D
just like this Land Rover


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 14, 2006, 10:34:56 AM
Ooh, I like that! Have they narrowed the front grille?
Flap's our resident Landy freak. I'll be tinkering in his garage later so I'll tell him to come & have a look at that.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 14, 2006, 10:42:09 AM
Ok problem number 1, i know jack s**t about how to go about doing that conversion ie jacking it.

Problem number 2, where the hell do i get wheels that size and tires.

Problem number 3, is it expensive to do.

If i decide to do it it won't be till after the trike is done so next summer some time.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 14, 2006, 10:44:34 AM
Oh Mr Flap. Your expertise, (ha!), is required.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: panthershaun on November 14, 2006, 11:19:20 AM
Ooh, I like that! Have they narrowed the front grille?
Flap's our resident Landy freak. I'll be tinkering in his garage later so I'll tell him to come & have a look at that.
Nope its a s1, with wider axles on it, makes the old girl look very small.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 14, 2006, 11:22:38 AM
'Tis indeed nice.
Flappitty Doo Dah's Landy's in the Motors, 4 wheels bit of the main site. Looking for more 4 wheelers, (or 2 or 3 cornered ones too), for the Motors section if you've got something interesting & want to show it off -!!


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 14, 2006, 11:54:08 AM
A couple more

(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9098/image1vz8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

I think this one in Olive drab, just been trying to find one of those moon visors for the windscreen, seems they don't make them for the cherokee anymore.
(http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5138/image2yk9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 14, 2006, 11:57:50 AM
Yeah, like the bottom one.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 14, 2006, 12:04:32 PM
Just found a site that tells you how to cut back the wheel archs and fit Wrangler fender flares.

easy to do lol.

http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Body/YJ_Flares.htm


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: flap on November 14, 2006, 12:54:57 PM
An inexpensive way to jack your Jeep up is to mount the leaf springs on top of the axles  like the one in the first few pics. Handling will probably be terrible but it does look good. Wheels and tyres that big are expensive though.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 14, 2006, 01:15:05 PM
Ok problem Number 4, it needs to handle, so thats that option out the window.  :D


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 14, 2006, 02:25:27 PM
Also mine only has leaf springs on the back.

So if i can find some wheels and tires, where is the best place to get a lift kit, or is there another option?


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: flap on November 14, 2006, 05:57:57 PM
Lift kits probably cost about 500 quid unless you can find a used set and no mater how you lift it or how high the handling will be affected. You could just fit bigger tyres with a higher profile and trim the arches. On my land rover I had 235/70/16 tyres, they are 29 inches tall. I fitted 235/85/16 they are 32 inches tall, instant lift. You can go extreme and fit some about 6 inches taller than the ones you have on there. Fit tyres, trim arches, job done  :)


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 14, 2006, 06:06:11 PM
Ok now that sounds very doable, couple of questions as per normal lol.

Is the cutting back of the wheel arches as easy as it sounds? and are these 235/85/16 tyres easy to get hold of as part used's.

and has anyone got a spare can of olive/khaki paint


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: saddlebags on November 14, 2006, 07:09:10 PM
Something that big is never gonna be camouflaged,paint it pink and be done with it.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: panthershaun on November 14, 2006, 07:16:18 PM
I'm running 235/85/16 tyres on my Landie plus parabolic springs which has given it quite a lift ;D
You can get remoulds for around £50.00 each, had the set on mine for around 7 yrs and still going strong.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: flap on November 14, 2006, 07:54:41 PM
Have a look here http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/faqs.cfm?id=6 by the look of it you can't fit very big tyres to a jeep without a suspension lift  :( so sell it and buy a Land Rover  ;D


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: lunatic on November 14, 2006, 07:55:40 PM
Go and take a look on www.supertrux.com they do lifting coils for the front and raised shakles for the back. possibly do a body lift kit too. Search for jeep cherokee on there otherwise youll be there for hours! Dont look at the prices for the complete kits! :o


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: lunatic on November 14, 2006, 07:57:07 PM
Sell it and buy a Hi Lux! ;D


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: flap on November 14, 2006, 08:03:47 PM
I'm running 235/85/16 tyres on my Landie plus parabolic springs which has given it quite a lift ;D
You can get remoulds for around £50.00 each, had the set on mine for around 7 yrs and still going strong.

Shaun, do parabolics make a big difference in ride quality? going to get some for mine soon. I've been using remoulds for years too, had them on my Land Rovers and a few cars, 50 quid Landie size, 22 quid car size. Bargain.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: flap on November 14, 2006, 08:05:07 PM
Them BIG tyres  ;D


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: lunatic on November 14, 2006, 08:17:27 PM
Hi lux belongs to Shane Lynch who was in boyzone. >:( Still at least he knew how to spend his money!


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Wulfgar on November 14, 2006, 08:18:27 PM
I was thinking about doing this to get more wheel space.

http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Body/YJ_Flares.htm

And as for PINK! not in this life time  :D :D



Title: Re: possible??
Post by: flap on November 14, 2006, 08:31:02 PM
Them will be good, I reckon you'd be able to get a large set of tyres under them. Some cheep wide 8 spoke wheels, they have a big offset and some huge tyres.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: Manky Monkey on November 14, 2006, 09:34:46 PM
I bought remoulds for the trikes from here:
http://www.tyresdirectuk.co.uk/
Next day delivery & pretty cheap, (30 quid each for 225/50/15s).
Think they've got an off road section but don't know if they do mad sizes.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: panthershaun on November 15, 2006, 08:06:21 PM
Flap, the parabolics were the second best thing I have fitted to my Landie, the best is the 2.8 Diahatsu diesel, 35+ mpg and will cruise over 70mph.
The springs give you a softer ride, she corners better as the front wheel doesn't tend to lift and it gives you around 3inches of lift, only down side I have found is that she is to tall to fit in most carparks (6' 6") when fitted with the soft top.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: flap on November 16, 2006, 03:38:43 PM
Will get some parabolics soon. What dampers did you use? Need a new engine in mine, did you use a conversion plate and use the series gearbox? If you hear of anyone selling an engine and plate for a bargain price can you let me know, always fancied a Ford V6 but might get a 200 tdi, they are always up for sale now. Bolt straight on to a series gearbox too.


Title: Re: possible??
Post by: panthershaun on November 16, 2006, 08:09:24 PM
still using the original dampers as I do not go off road much, engine was fitted with an adapter plate and standard box.
Mates got a V6 in his short Landie, goes like stink but still drinks the juice. I would put the 200TDI in if you can afford it.