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Technical Section => Trike Tech => Topic started by: BikerGran on October 01, 2013, 07:26:49 PM



Title: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: BikerGran on October 01, 2013, 07:26:49 PM
The following is from the NABD chairman, I thought it might be helpful for new trikers.
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New Motorcycle Test (3rd European Directive) & Trikes

There have been lots of enquiries on this subject so I thought I’d better clarify the situation to avoid any more wrong information being circulated.

As of January 19th 2013 the new ‘staged’ licensing system comes into affect.
(I will do a more involved report on how it affects motorcycle tests later).
How will it affect trikes?

As of January 19th 2013 Trikes will become part of the Motorcycle licence category. (Currently they come within the Car Category).

For people with existing full car licenses prior to January 19th 2013, nothing changes. (New licensing rules cannot be backdated).

After January 19th 2013 only people with disabilities will be permitted to take a test on a trike.
(This dispensation is greatly due to consultations between the NABD and the Driving Standards Agency (DSA) including the submission of a very detailed report by the NABD Chairman relating to the use of trikes and sidecar outfits by disabled people).

For disabled people wishing to take a test on a trike after January 19th 3013 they will have to take a CBT (slightly amended to suit trikes). They will also have to do the motorcycle theory test and the practical tests (Mod 1 test is also slightly adapted to suit trikes; i.e. less cones and no avoidance manoeuvre etc.)

A disabled person taking a test on a trike will qualify for a licence restricted to trikes. It will not qualify them to ride solo motorcycles or drive cars.

Able-bodied people who don’t hold a full car licence prior to January 19th 2013 will have to pass a motorcycle test, on a motorcycle, before they can ride a trike. (Those who already hold a motorcycle licence will by default be able to ride trikes).

Able-bodied people who are currently riding trikes on L-Plates must successfully pass a test before January 19th 2013.
After that date they can only ride a trike if they successfully pass a motorcycle test on a motorcycle first.

As far as I and the DSA are aware there is no change to the dispensation that allows disabled people to use a motorcycle and sidecar combination to take a motorcycle test, though this would also result in a licence restricted to motorcycles fitted with sidecars.

Rick Hulse
NABD Chairman


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: spanners on October 01, 2013, 11:16:40 PM
The following is from the NABD chairman, I thought it might be helpful for new trikers.
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New Motorcycle Test (3rd European Directive) & Trikes

There have been lots of enquiries on this subject so I thought I’d better clarify the situation to avoid any more wrong information being circulated.

As of January 19th 2013 the new ‘staged’ licensing system comes into affect.
(I will do a more involved report on how it affects motorcycle tests later).
How will it affect trikes?

As of January 19th 2013 Trikes will become part of the Motorcycle licence category. (Currently they come within the Car Category).

For people with existing full car licenses prior to January 19th 2013, nothing changes. (New licensing rules cannot be backdated).

After January 19th 2013 only people with disabilities will be permitted to take a test on a trike.
(This dispensation is greatly due to consultations between the NABD and the Driving Standards Agency (DSA) including the submission of a very detailed report by the NABD Chairman relating to the use of trikes and sidecar outfits by disabled people).

For disabled people wishing to take a test on a trike after January 19th 3013 they will have to take a CBT (slightly amended to suit trikes). They will also have to do the motorcycle theory test and the practical tests (Mod 1 test is also slightly adapted to suit trikes; i.e. less cones and no avoidance manoeuvre etc.)

A disabled person taking a test on a trike will qualify for a licence restricted to trikes. It will not qualify them to ride solo motorcycles or drive cars.

Able-bodied people who don’t hold a full car licence prior to January 19th 2013 will have to pass a motorcycle test, on a motorcycle, before they can ride a trike. (Those who already hold a motorcycle licence will by default be able to ride trikes).

Able-bodied people who are currently riding trikes on L-Plates must successfully pass a test before January 19th 2013.
After that date they can only ride a trike if they successfully pass a motorcycle test on a motorcycle first.

As far as I and the DSA are aware there is no change to the dispensation that allows disabled people to use a motorcycle and sidecar combination to take a motorcycle test, though this would also result in a licence restricted to motorcycles fitted with sidecars.

Rick Hulse
NABD Chairman
please can somebody ,,clarifiey,, r simplefiey tih (sorry about my spelling) this as it seams that riders that have passed their test recently may have problems aswell as others
OK I KNOW  i maybe not making alot of sense but these days i struggle to say what i mean ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,some body should pickup where i,m coming from


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: hunter on October 01, 2013, 11:50:16 PM
Bobbie No need to simplify it.
If i can understand it I'm sure everyone else can.


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: stumpy on October 02, 2013, 03:49:55 PM
The following is from the NABD chairman, I thought it might be helpful for new trikers.
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Quote
New Motorcycle Test (3rd European Directive) & Trikes

There have been lots of enquiries on this subject so I thought I’d better clarify the situation to avoid any more wrong information being circulated.

As of January 19th 2013 the new ‘staged’ licensing system comes into affect.
(I will do a more involved report on how it affects motorcycle tests later).
How will it affect trikes?

As of January 19th 2013 Trikes will become part of the Motorcycle licence category. (Currently they come within the Car Category).

For people with existing full car licenses prior to January 19th 2013, nothing changes. (New licensing rules cannot be backdated).

After January 19th 2013 only people with disabilities will be permitted to take a test on a trike.
(This dispensation is greatly due to consultations between the NABD and the Driving Standards Agency (DSA) including the submission of a very detailed report by the NABD Chairman relating to the use of trikes and sidecar outfits by disabled people).

For disabled people wishing to take a test on a trike after January 19th 3013 they will have to take a CBT (slightly amended to suit trikes). They will also have to do the motorcycle theory test and the practical tests (Mod 1 test is also slightly adapted to suit trikes; i.e. less cones and no avoidance manoeuvre etc.)

A disabled person taking a test on a trike will qualify for a licence restricted to trikes. It will not qualify them to ride solo motorcycles or drive cars.

Able-bodied people who don’t hold a full car licence prior to January 19th 2013 will have to pass a motorcycle test, on a motorcycle, before they can ride a trike. (Those who already hold a motorcycle licence will by default be able to ride trikes).

Able-bodied people who are currently riding trikes on L-Plates must successfully pass a test before January 19th 2013.
After that date they can only ride a trike if they successfully pass a motorcycle test on a motorcycle first.

As far as I and the DSA are aware there is no change to the dispensation that allows disabled people to use a motorcycle and sidecar combination to take a motorcycle test, though this would also result in a licence restricted to motorcycles fitted with sidecars.

Rick Hulse
NABD Chairman
please can somebody ,,clarifiey,, r simplefiey tih (sorry about my spelling) this as it seams that riders that have passed their test recently may have problems aswell as others
OK I KNOW  i maybe not making alot of sense but these days i struggle to say what i mean ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,some body should pickup where i,m coming from

Able-bodied people who don’t hold a full car licence prior to January 19th 2013 will have to pass a motorcycle test, on a motorcycle, before they can ride a trike. (Those who already hold a motorcycle licence will by default be able to ride trikes).

Able-bodied people who are currently riding trikes on L-Plates must successfully pass a test before January 19th 2013.
After that date they can only ride a trike if they successfully pass a motorcycle test on a motorcycle first.


thats all that will apply to you spanners but you got a full car licence anyway so no worries


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: digger06 on October 02, 2013, 04:02:04 PM
looks like it means a new bike licence entitles you to drive a reliant again then , something they stopped in 2002


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: BikerGran on October 02, 2013, 07:17:30 PM
looks like it means a new bike licence entitles you to drive a reliant again then , something they stopped in 2002

Don't know about that, depends whether they are classing a Reliant as a trike or a three wheeled car!  This post was specifically about trikes.


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: BikerGran on October 02, 2013, 07:20:17 PM
please can somebody ,,clarifiey,, r simplefiey tih (sorry about my spelling) this as it seams that riders that have passed their test recently may have problems aswell as others
OK I KNOW  i maybe not making alot of sense but these days i struggle to say what i mean ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,some body should pickup where i,m coming from

Riders who have passed a bike test SINCE 19 January 2013 CAN ride a trike - does that help?


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: digger06 on October 03, 2013, 03:27:04 PM
looks like it means a new bike licence entitles you to drive a reliant again then , something they stopped in 2002

Don't know about that, depends whether they are classing a Reliant as a trike or a three wheeled car!  This post was specifically about trikes.


a reliant was never a 3 wheeled car, its a trike


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: fifer on October 03, 2013, 05:42:34 PM
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Originally posted by digger06  ;
a reliant was never a 3 wheeled car, its a trike

Agree  :)

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Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: stumpy on October 03, 2013, 05:49:21 PM
body plan saloon CAR trikes have handle bars kinda gives it away 


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: BikerGran on October 03, 2013, 06:20:52 PM
body plan saloon CAR trikes have handle bars kinda gives it away 

Agree!


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: digger06 on October 03, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
body plan saloon CAR trikes have handle bars kinda gives it away  
i have seen custom trikes with steering wheels too,so are they cars then?
i think the 3 wheel bit gives it away as a trike, as does the v5, body plan or not, it says tricycle,
due to the wheel plan and weight, they were never legally classed as a car, (ok, i know they look/drive like one)
its actually good news for a lot of bikers, affordable out of the weather motoring can be got again,,

having a reliant was part of growing up when i was younger, a bit like honda cubs,
both fantastic ideas, imo


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: stumpy on October 03, 2013, 07:47:36 PM
oh no i will yes i wont


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: BikerGran on October 03, 2013, 10:03:51 PM
it's actually good news for a lot of bikers, affordable out of the weather motoring can be got again,,

Unfortunately for me, they never did one with automatic transmission......    :-\


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: digger06 on October 04, 2013, 05:29:20 AM
maybe the next project then?


Title: Re: New Trike Law for riding from January 19th 2013
Post by: BikerGran on October 04, 2013, 07:47:19 PM
Not till I win the lottery!