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Technical Section => Trike Tech => Topic started by: merv on September 20, 2013, 08:39:35 AM



Title: Diff caseing studs
Post by: merv on September 20, 2013, 08:39:35 AM
Can any one tell me where I can get new diff casing studs and domed stainless nuts from,
any help would be appreciated
Thanks

Merv


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: merv on September 20, 2013, 10:31:45 PM
Well
can any one help, if not how do I put my diff back together


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: steven brock on September 21, 2013, 08:16:09 AM
Think they 5/16 unf maybe good ole eBay.. from memory I think to replace them seemed expensive for dome nuts


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: merv on September 21, 2013, 08:42:58 AM
Thanks Steve
Sounds like the studs are hard to come by, if I had known I would not have thrown the studs out when I stripped the axle, doh.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: Olds on September 21, 2013, 08:52:15 AM
How bad are the old studs?
Without pulling the studs from my axle I'm not sure but they may be unf at the nut end but I would expect them to be unc in the casing.
Better check this.
Various lengths are available via ebay


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: Olds on September 21, 2013, 08:59:14 AM
OK have removed a stud.
Yep 5/16" unf - unc x 2" long. Thread lengths each end approx. 5/8" (16mm)
You should be able to find some manifold studs that size.
Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: merv on September 21, 2013, 09:01:55 AM
Hi Old's
The thing is I haven't got them I threw them away when I stripped the axle, my thinking was to buy new.
Been looking on eBay cant seem to find any maybe using the wrong terminology or wording


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: merv on September 21, 2013, 09:04:52 AM
Thanks Old's
Would the reliant exhaust studs be the same?


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: Olds on September 21, 2013, 09:10:01 AM
Think they are shorter, may be OK. but these should do
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Thermostat-Manifold-Stud-HIF-SU-Austin-Morris-BMC-Rover-5-16-UNF-UNC-/130974317344?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e7ead7b20


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: hunter on September 21, 2013, 09:13:32 AM
Would these be long enough Merv.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-16-x-1-11-16-UNC-UNF-Manifold-Studs-With-Brass-Nut-MGB-Exhaust-Flange-/350746790627?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item51aa234ae3


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: merv on September 21, 2013, 09:20:44 AM
Hi hunter
Thanks, I don't know at the moment, hey Old's you still reading sorry to be a nuisance but the link hunter sent through would they suit ?


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: Olds on September 21, 2013, 09:24:03 AM
Not really. To short and are for screwing into a cast iron manifold, the unc section is less than 10mm long.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: hunter on September 21, 2013, 09:38:46 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THERMOSTAT-HOUSE-STUD-5-16-UNC-FOR-A-SERIES-MINI-AUSTIN-METRO-MG-A-A-TURBO-1275/280650196278?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17234%26meid%3D1440607581003840289%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D8045%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D270815879318%26

These should do it.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: merv on September 21, 2013, 09:54:02 AM
Thanks you two, you both have been a great help


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: Olds on September 21, 2013, 10:12:52 AM
S'OK.  :)
Just check that the unc section is at least 14mm otherwise the risk of pulling the ally threads is a lot higher.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: steven brock on September 21, 2013, 01:09:51 PM
I wonder if unc socket headed cap screws would do


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: morrag on September 21, 2013, 05:14:01 PM
And never throw 'owt away until the jobs a "good 'un" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: trikerpete on September 21, 2013, 08:36:17 PM
I wonder if unc socket headed cap screws would do

Yes, Ive used them before now. The only thing with studs is that its easier to locate the 2 halves of diff when they go together.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: merv on September 21, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
And never throw 'owt away until the jobs a "good 'un" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yes morrag, I have learnt that one, the hard way :)


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: ROD on September 21, 2013, 09:57:21 PM
Just my 2p..probably too late...but......If you could get bolts (or machine screws as they call them(thread all the way up) to fit into the axle casing,then cut off to suit for length,and fit a nut same as the thread(whatever the casing thread is) The 'new' nuts havent got to be the same thread as the originals?


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: saex69 on September 21, 2013, 11:59:26 PM
I tend to get all my nuts and bolts from these guys been with them for years order one day get them the next if you order before 12:00. http://www.custom-fasteners.co.uk/


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: steven brock on September 22, 2013, 07:39:49 AM
Just my 2p..probably too late...but......If you could get bolts (or machine screws as they call them(thread all the way up) to fit into the axle casing,then cut off to suit for length,and fit a nut same as the thread(whatever the casing thread is) The 'new' nuts havent got to be the same thread as the originals?

Suppose you could saw the heads of some bolts (set screws) jus ad nuts


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: ROD on September 22, 2013, 04:52:55 PM
Is that your translation of what I said? ;) ;D


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: Olds on September 22, 2013, 05:47:16 PM
Just my 2p..probably too late...but......If you could get bolts (or machine screws as they call them(thread all the way up) to fit into the axle casing,then cut off to suit for length,and fit a nut same as the thread(whatever the casing thread is) The 'new' nuts havent got to be the same thread as the originals?
Suppose you could saw the heads of some bolts (set screws) jus ad nuts

You could but it is not good engineering practice. There is a reason why two different threads are used.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: ROD on September 25, 2013, 02:25:05 PM
Whys that then?


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: Olds on September 25, 2013, 04:16:25 PM
The coarse thread is to stop the stud from stripping the thread in the housing. The fine thread is to increase the clamping force for a given torque. Also turning the thread while under tension tends to damage aluminium.
I think of the two options, a cut down set screw and nut would be better than using a bolt.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: morrag on September 25, 2013, 07:14:37 PM
Right on all points "Olds", don't use "longtthread", the stud is made that way for a good reason, as per "Olds" posting..................... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: Baychimp on September 25, 2013, 09:41:36 PM
Hi merv, take a look at Westfield fasteners.co.uk they have a whole section of unc nuts and bolts. All size's and head patterns.


Title: Re: Diff caseing studs
Post by: fifer on September 25, 2013, 09:54:04 PM
Give John Copestake a buzz for genuine parts .

http://carwisereliantspares.moonfruit.com/

He , like Dennis at Michaels of Selby , is a true gent  :)
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