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Title: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 08, 2013, 12:08:10 PM If so can you tell me what is required to be accepted in the way of modifications for disabled use? Also does it always remain disabled or when sold on can an able bodied person continue to use it? Not looking at this as a way round MSVA , genuine and pertinent question relative to me.
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: trikerpete on September 08, 2013, 01:28:39 PM As far as Im aware, all that happens (apart from various forms/documents) is that the trike has a basic inspection by DVLA. This is to make sure" it is what it says on the tin". When trike is registered it will be in "disabled" taxation class and uses your DLA free road tax. Dont forget you can only use this on 1 vehicle at a time. At a later date you can apply to change taxation class to "Tricycle" when you can purchase a new tax disc.
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: Olds on September 08, 2013, 03:16:01 PM Strange as it seems Pete is right. Though I can't understand why there is an exemption in the first place.
As far as I know just being a trike would be enough of a modification, if for instance the rider was disabled by way of balance problems. The modifications should really be person specific and relate to their disability Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: Manky Monkey on September 08, 2013, 05:24:50 PM Not really relevant, but my XS650 Yamaha bike says Taxation Class -disabled on the logbook. I'm told I can change this at my local Post Office when I re-tax it.
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 08, 2013, 05:41:38 PM Strange as it seems Pete is right. Though I can't understand why there is an exemption in the first place. As far as I know just being a trike would be enough of a modification, if for instance the rider was disabled by way of balance problems. The modifications should really be person specific and relate to their disability There used to be an exemption from some of SVA /BIVA for vehicles registered as disabled. It got abused so was stopped. Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: BikerGran on September 08, 2013, 10:52:29 PM The NABD (National Association for Bikers with a Disability) negotiated an exemption from MSVA (or whatever the latest name is) for trikes built for disabled people. As far as I know this is still in place. For further info it's probably best to talk to the NABD
http://www.nabd.org.uk/contact/index.htm (http://www.nabd.org.uk/contact/index.htm) Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: MIXA on September 08, 2013, 11:58:02 PM Sorry MM you can change from PLG to Disabled at post office but to change from Disabled to PLG this has to be done at local DVLA office , have this trouble when i sell as mine are always disabled use and peps dont want the hasle so have to change them back before sale
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: Olds on September 09, 2013, 07:00:04 AM Sorry MM you can change from PLG to Disabled at post office but to change from Disabled to PLG this has to be done at local DVLA office Correct, at the moment. DVLA information sheet. INF224 Yet another thing you wont be able to do once they close the DVLA LOs Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 09, 2013, 07:31:24 AM Don't worry though, the whole reason for shutting the LOs is to make it all MORE efficient...yeah right! ::)
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 09, 2013, 07:32:19 AM The NABD (National Association for Bikers with a Disability) negotiated an exemption from MSVA (or whatever the latest name is) for trikes built for disabled people. As far as I know this is still in place. For further info it's probably best to talk to the NABD http://www.nabd.org.uk/contact/index.htm (http://www.nabd.org.uk/contact/index.htm) Thanks BG, had a look on their site and couldn't see anything about it so am going to give them a mail shortly. Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: BikerGran on September 09, 2013, 11:02:58 AM Yeah sorry, I couldn't find it either, I should have said - that's why I said talk to them! Email is best then someone will probably phone you or email.
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: Manky Monkey on September 09, 2013, 02:24:31 PM I'm planning on re-registering my bike anyway, so not a problem really.
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 20, 2013, 03:12:57 PM So mailed NABD 11 days ago , no reply . Guess it's because I'm not a disabled biker but disabled and wanting to be a biker..oh well.
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: BikerGran on September 20, 2013, 08:53:07 PM Not sure if they have any paid office staff at present and they may have been a bit busy with a couple of events. They certainly don't discriminate between those who are already bikers (or trikers) and those who aren't, in fact they have adapted bikes for learners to borrow. They did try this with trikes but it didn't really work.
Did you email a particular person, or NABD in general? I may be able to find out who's the best person to contact as although I'm no longer a rep I still know some NABD people. Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 21, 2013, 07:34:47 AM I understand they are volunteers BG so wasn't expecting an instant reply :) I contacted whoever was listed as dealing with adaptations on their website?
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: BikerGran on September 21, 2013, 04:05:25 PM I guess that was the right thing to do!
I've messaged someone I know - will wait till after the weekend for a reply as they may be away at a rally! Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: stumpy on September 23, 2013, 07:35:15 AM Not really relevant, but my XS650 Yamaha bike says Taxation Class -disabled on the logbook. I'm told I can change this at my local Post Office when I re-tax it. no you cant ... can only be done at your DVLA office .... PLG to disabled can do at post office but not vice versa Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: Manky Monkey on September 24, 2013, 08:03:54 AM Okey dokey. Not really a problem as I'm planning on re-registering anyway.
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: Archie on September 24, 2013, 05:47:38 PM If you get nowhere with nabd try mag
http://www.mag-uk.org/en/index/a6296 Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: BikerGran on September 24, 2013, 06:54:15 PM Kapri - I had a look at the thread about this on the NABD forum and had a reply on the NABD forum from Gary Seddon who I knew when I was a NABD rep .......
Quote Get him to ring the office on 0844 415 4849 Bobbi. I know the adaptions advisor Tracey Browne has been away for a couple of weeks on tour earning a crust but she's back in Madchester now so will be getting stuck into her emails. Rick is probably the best to ask at the moment, the dispensation for trikes adapted for use by a disabled rider is still in effect so most of the information regarding that is still current. The forms and method will still be the same. I've done it twice myself and will be doing it again once my current project is finished so you could always give your mate my email addy as I wrote the original piece. I'll be contacting all the relevant authorities about my build in the next few weeks just to check. I might even do a re-write with the updated info. By the way the original thread is at grumpygaz@gmail.com (http://grumpygaz@gmail.com) and I've PM'd you his email address. Gary's reply was to my post suggesting some of it may be outdated now... Hope this helps! Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 24, 2013, 07:10:03 PM Thanks BG, would you believe I didn't spot the forum link on their website ?! DOH!! I'll give them a shout later . Bearing in mind it will all be changing again as all Local Offices will be closed permanently by Dec 13th this year :(
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: BikerGran on September 26, 2013, 04:45:10 PM Gary has checked and the dispensation for disabled is still the same, so this thread is still relevant re how to go about it (including whether you want to use the 'free tax' option on the trike or not)
http://forum.disabledbiker.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2294 (http://forum.disabledbiker.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2294) Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 26, 2013, 06:43:54 PM Thanks for your help on this BG ;D I'll be building to MSVA standard anyway and may still do the test .However if there are issues caused by my mods to help me ride I'll go down this route. Once again, thanks.
For info I won't be able to use twist throttle or pull brakes / clutch so will need to adapt to suit. Sorted a lot of my parts just deciding on a suitable donor bike. Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: phunkie hiboy on September 26, 2013, 07:19:12 PM It got abused so was stopped. Surely not, who would do a thing like that!! ::) Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 26, 2013, 07:29:09 PM Subaru WRX camper anyone ? ::) :P :-*
Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: Manky Monkey on September 26, 2013, 09:16:16 PM Honda CX500 for 22 quid on Ebay at the moment Kev.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CX500-bobber-chopper-harley-type-motor-bike-/171136452181 With a Royal Mail letter tray full of parts next to it I see. Title: Re: Anyone used disabled clause to register trike ? Post by: kapri on September 26, 2013, 09:26:15 PM Didn't come up on my saved searches Andy, guess it's because it's CX500 and not CX 500 . Now watching and thinking :) Got a lead on a BMW R100 as well. Marian wants me to wait until my EUS test on Monday, just so it's not another piece of crap to sell if the results bad! LOL
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