Manky Monkey Motors

ok so thing are now progressed to the stage of needing some wheels. ihave banded steels but fancy some alloys BUT

where do i get such things in 4x4" or does everyone use 4x100??

if using 4x100 how do you get them to centre properly as there are no spigot rings for reliant :-\ :-\

thanks again for help and advice

I have some 100 PCD alloys. You can use wobble nuts to allow for the slight difference between 100mm and 4", or get a convertor plate ( I think some people just  put them on but sounds dodgy to me). Convertor plates are expensive on ebay, looking for some at a sensible price myself :) I have only found wobble nuts on metric threads, having trouble finding them for 3/8unf reliant studs.

Choice of alloy wheels is very limited in 4 x 4"(101.6)
Minilites are available usually up to 13" dia. but found Frontline Spridget list 5.5J X 14"

i use mini alloy wheel nuts ,they have a tapered head that holds the wheel nice and tight,cheap enough on ebay.

As Andy says,adaptors are quite expensive,and will give you a wider track.I re-drilled my Reliant hubs to 4 x 100 . Theres only a fraction in the difference ,so it was hard to do . Tried using a drill stand,but ended up using a mill to bolt the hubs down real tight,then drilled really slow.Used larger diam studs to accomodate the wheel nuts of the alloys.I f you have shaved a small amount off the hub "corners" to fit Nova discs,the holes will end up very close to the edge. I welded the studs from behind,and I havent had a problem. Manky gave me the idea ,and he hadnt had a prob with this either.Unfortunately I havent got the use of the mill any more,or I could have done them for you(huge,pathetic,argument at work re use of machinery for personal use!)
 
 Shameless thread jack ..sorry..getting desperate.Has anyone got any 13"- 4 x 100 or 4 x 4" old skool 3 spoke alloys. Spokes are like the tsw rims.Thanks

Reworking the hubs is a good idea

yep i've thought about the possability of doing that but thought it may not be diy so i'll maybe try some of the
local engineers and see what the cost might be

i did my own when i had my trike and i upped the stud size,, i actually used some ford studs that i had in stock ,

I use these 4" to 100mm there 25mm thick. no drilling or altering the hub

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230977584811?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_702wt_1170

Hmmm....£89 sounds a lot,but by the time youve ponced around finding a machine shop/getting hubs to them etc,I suppose that aint too bad,and also a easy,quick fix.Do they come with studs for the 4 x 100 set up? The studs are about £1/£1.50 each IIRC. Alot of people dont like adaptors,but I reckon they are ok in most circumstances.

if i buy this it would make some of those adaptors

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALUMINIUM-FLAT-BAR-BILLET-6-x-1-x-300mm-/121110662234?pt=UK_BOI_Metalworking_Milling_Welding_Metalworking_Supplies_ET&hash=item1c32c20c5a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALUMINIUM-FLAT-BAR-BILLET-6-x-1-x-300mm-/121110662234?pt=UK_BOI_Metalworking_Milling_Welding_Metalworking_Supplies_ET&hash=item1c32c20c5a)

just hope my drilling is up to scratch ::) ::)

no studs. depends on what wheels you fit. yes they seam a bit dear. but as you said by the time you take the hubs off find some one to do it. its not a bad price.
there was some one else on ebay selling them i brought a couple of sets for 20/25 pounds

what grade is it ???

what grade is it ???
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now there's a thing i never thought of,i'll ask the question and see what they say

I wouldn't use aluminium for adaptors.
 Spacers perhaps but not adaptors.

i bought some wolfrace slots,s/s rims, new, 60 each i think, they drill em to whatever you want


gone up slightly, but i think i got em from here

http://www.alloywheels.com/7x15_Inch_Wolfrace_Slot_Mag_Silver_Polished_Lip_Alloy_Wheels_Only

3 days from ordering to my door, drilled

sorry, it was here (but they are dearer than the other link) the service was tops though,and free delivery.
http://www.directalloys.co.uk/details6.asp/ProductID/1226/sid/12/wolfrace-slot-mag-black-15-alloy-wheel.htm

been talking to one of the local alloy wheel emporium's and there suggestion is to change the studs for metric and use wobbly
nuts as suggested by andy r but is there a way of centreing the rims on the hubs as these nuts alloy for 4mm of adjusting ie
wheel pcd of 98 to 102???

Only by making spacers with a centre spigot.
If you are going to machine the hubs to take metric studs, get them machined to 100 pcd

i think they rely on the tapers on the bolts, they seem to centre themselves, iv checked on my two trikes i had with these on (before i got the new wheels) and they was perfectly ok, quite a few folk use em, never heard of any issues

Just my 2p...........I think re drill the hubs or fit adapters. Never seen wobble bolts on wheels,but arent they going to take a pounding with a hard tail?

Only by making spacers with a centre spigot.
If you are going to machine the hubs to take metric studs, get them machined to 100 pcd
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yep i think that will be the way to go as the cost will be the same no matter what


thanks digger it's good to get a report from someone who has tried them already

interesting thought Rod don't know if having a hard tail would make a difference

one of em i had em on was hardtail,it was ok, any wheels take a hammering with no suspension, ,
but far far less without low profile tyres, going to 85 from 50 made a massive difference in comfort, and i would say a lot less strain on the rear running gear

i was thinking of 50's but youv'e just changed my mind maybe tye 65's

got a deal from the local trike shop for these and a set of wheels

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/76CEB001-A2BE-4B81-A17D-A2303A5D7E43-3732-000005A89993CE36_zps82a90844.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/76CEB001-A2BE-4B81-A17D-A2303A5D7E43-3732-000005A89993CE36_zps82a90844.jpg.html)

they adapt 4" to 108mm ford/peugeot fitting ,a bargan at £80 for the lot and the tyres are like new
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/9BCDEA65-07DF-478B-96B3-52BB3BD86516-3732-000005A8A4F78F78_zps6f27cd1e.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/9BCDEA65-07DF-478B-96B3-52BB3BD86516-3732-000005A8A4F78F78_zps6f27cd1e.jpg.html)

195/60/14 so hopefully they have a high enough sidewall for a bit of comfort

so, how wide is your trike now?

58" including the mudguards

The price is really good.