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Title: one off molases tank ideas Post by: The North on January 09, 2013, 10:49:21 AM I want to make a temporary tank to dip my A40 devon chassis and a marlin chassis in molases prior to powder coating, only idea i can think of is line the pit in the garage in builders plastic and dip one half at a time untill i have them claean, any other ideas anyone can think of to make a large tank for this one off job. ???
Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: Al on January 09, 2013, 02:32:39 PM north i understand the cleaning powers mollasses has but the chemicals used in cleaning an item for powder coating isnt just the old blast only any more
i did powder coating for years there are different baths that a chassis can be dipped in before it actually gets anywhere near getting painted it might be cheaper in the long run for you to phone round and see what is on offer locally i wouldnt just try a small powder coaters try even an industrial one also with an industrial p/c they will have bigger and more baths so the cleaning process will be better as some companies will do big stuff to fill in if they have any quite days or if a manager is away homers is a painters pay really as pay from working for someone isnt great for powder coating Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: The North on January 09, 2013, 08:14:49 PM I did not realise there was any chemical baths involved, but i never realy looked in to it. I had a local guy in mind but i did not want the chassis blasting at all, it is a fantastic chassis the devon and has only slight light surface rust in a few places so i want to eliminate any abrassion if i can. But i may just nitromors it and sand it by hand and spray it bow in view of what you say, it would be cheaper but i wanted a more durable long lasting finish. Any advice on the best paint for looks and durability to look out for.
Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: Mendalot on January 10, 2013, 12:09:56 PM On my kit car restoration, I have used the 3 stage POR15 paint. It is at its best if you have surface rust. Base coat :- POR15 Rust a black paint that reacts with the surface and seals the chassis. Mid coat :- POR15 Tie Coat Primer, this is a grey paint so you can see where you have painted, and is the primer for the top coat. Top coat :- POR15 Blackcote, nice shiney black paint that looks like its been powder coated.
Warning:- if you get the base coat on the lip of the tin and put the lid back on, once dry, thats your lot!!! it wont come off again :o had to use a hacksaw and cut the top off :-[ and as for your skin :-\ The only down side to this paint is the cost, but you do get what you pay for. Available from Frost Restoration. Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: snafu on January 10, 2013, 12:49:49 PM You could make a temp tank by tying ladders together and draping a cheap
tarpaulin over them, same as the fire brigade do for acetylene and oxy bottles after a fire. Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: Archie on January 10, 2013, 06:26:44 PM Don't forget whatever you decide upon, you need to get the chemicals back out afterwards. So lining your pit may seem ideal up until you are bucketing it out.
Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: Manky Monkey on January 10, 2013, 08:23:50 PM Rent a skip & line it with plastic? Good point about the bucketting though Archie.
I've used several powder coaters over the years & even the most professional only shotblast before coating. Not heard of one that chemical dips first. Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: The North on January 10, 2013, 11:52:12 PM I got a hipo submersible pump i use regular to, ERem :-[remove some water out of a very different tank i have on my property ;D ;D its little cheap and will pump out the molasses to within a inch of the botom.
It may not be that practical though from whats been said, so may just remove the remaining chassis black ans bitumen then spray it. Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: klogan45 on January 16, 2013, 07:25:18 PM You need a big tank? How about an Army surplus Chieftain?
Sorry, it just had to be done. Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: The North on January 16, 2013, 09:43:13 PM ;D ;D ;D Tanks for your suggestion.
Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: blair on January 16, 2013, 09:48:50 PM what about an old IBC container , just cut the top off the plastic bottle , got to say none of the coaters i know do any other prep than blasting the item . they maybe use different media for different metals but other than that all there dips are for preperation only
Title: Re: one off molases tank ideas Post by: The North on January 16, 2013, 10:18:00 PM I just wanted to get all the surface rust off as its only very light with out any abrasion and i really rate the molasses method its brilliant and i wish i had known about it years ago.
I don't know whats involved all i know is i always had motorbike frames blasted at danum light industries and then took the frame straight to tom blenkinsop for powder coating, and now i just take the frames to AM Beavers at cottingwith. this i will probably do if i cant sort out a tank of some kind. Thanks for the suggestion. |