Manky Monkey Motors

At last a little progress has been made on the trike.I would like things to happen
a little faster but things just don't ever seem to work out.

With the help of Alan and Nathan we managed to get the headstock cleaned up
and tacked to the 2 lower frame rails.

more photo's

yet more

We have never did anything like this before so it took a while to figure out
the alignment of the front tubes but we got there in the end ,hopefully.

Cleaning up the headstock and removing all the old frame from it was a slow process,
if I were to do it again I would buy or have made a headstock to suit.

 ;D It's almost finished!
Another one begins the slow descent into poverty & madness, takes the first steps to getting out there on something they've built themselves.
Looks like you've got some decent facilities there & some good mates to help out. Makes it all so much easier -& more enjoyable.
Obviously it's better to construct a jig to build your frame in, to keep everything staright & true, but I've never used one. Just make sure you constantly take lots & lots of measurements from every conceivable point while you weld everything up.
Looking good there matey.

Thanks MM

we did think about a jig but sorta thought if we built it in wood it still might twist
so decided to just keep a check on the measurements.

It's always good to have another perspective when your doing things like this I find,
sometimes when you can't see the forest for the trees it can be blindingly obvious to
someone else.That's why I like this group,lots of great ideas.

Eddie

Looking good,Nice joint in the headstock.

yep,a nice fit there for sure! Keep at it mate,welcome to the world of constant headaches! ;D

Thanks Hunter and Rod

That joint took a bit (lots) of trial and error

Did you use the mitre programme?

What is the mitre programme?
could you enlighten me Rod?

file and grinder merv :D :D

Its a program you enter the tube diams and angle you want them to sit at .It allows you to print out a piece of A4 with a wavy line on it which represents the shape you need to cut the tube to.Cut out along the line,orientate it to the tube and wrap it round the tube you want notched,mark onto tube along wavy line, and hey presto,theres the exact line you need to cut to!

Google `tube mitre` Merv  ;)

No Rod not for this one as i didn't know quite what the angle's were that I needed to input to the program,
we just did it with the grind and try method but I sure wished I had use it it would have been a lot faster

Keep the seat low, looks good  ;)

Sorta have to, Im only 5'2!!!

Looking good :) - Takes a long time, but the sense of acheivement is worth it when a part suddenly "looks right"

keep at it it will all come togeather at some point..... looking good

Thanks for the encouragement...it goes a long way,can't wait to get back at it but going away
this weekend so it will have to wait.

looking good, keep up the good work. double check your base/bottom tubes are level so you know the headstock etc is plumb/vertical. ive seen some trikes with forks twisted to left/right when theve been plumbed in with the base being unlevel  ::)

thanks for the tip that's somthing that's kinda worrying me .i presume a spirit level
sat across the frame rails is accurate enough to check for this.

I have used a combination od spirit level, measurements and trigonomentry. I wonder the very same question sometimes, have I got it accurate enough?. My measurements come to within a millimeter so I guess that is good enough.

I drew a centre line for the trike on the build table, and aligned the frame on that. All measurements were referenced off that.

I think we will have to build a simple jig like the one in the tech section and then at least
the referance point won't move. I have a laser level so I can put a line down it with that
and use that for a start. Is 1mm tolerance acceptable,would you notice any difference
on the road.

Thanks for the help

I honestly dont know if 1mm is good enough. Anyone ????

a blind man would be glad to see it ;)
yes, spirit level ok but make sure its the same both ways by turning level around 180deg. Ive used spirit levels and laser levels and found both to be good  :)

Thanks Andy and Pete

It's great to get info from all you guys hopefully I'll be able to avoid some of the pitfalls
with your help.

just guess it i did.. looks like im drifting every where now it crabs that much :D :D better to build with the rear wheels off and block it up or axel stands, a half flat tyre could really fook it all up, i drew a center  and a 90deg line then allined the axel and engine on that to get the hight. then made a jig to hold the forks and headstock, to get my rake once the head stock was tacked i removed the forks and used a plumb bob to keep check ;) looking good though so far, soon be otr

Thanks OAB

That is about what I've done so far! It looks ok and as far as I
Can measure it is ok but then you start to doubt yourself
and spend ages chasing your tail trying to prove that something
is wrong even if it isn't

1mm is feck all!!!
motorcycle frames as standard can be a lot worse than that

Digger is absolutely right, there's so much rubber in modern suspension setups, so that your average punter will not feel anything untoward in the way of road "noise", that when the "motor" is jacked 'orf terra firma, the whole lot moves at will!!! Morrag

As long as the headstock's vertical & the axle's horizontal & 90 degrees to the headstock, the rest is all just aesthetics really.

what you gotta remember is when do you get a flat road???, they usually camber off to the left anyway, and thats only if they are done right,

thats to do with rain soak away isnt it?? theyve done a road by us at 20 degrees left camber to stop the flooding its so weird to drive/ride on

A little off topic, but the road to our local corner shop in the next village has a bloody awful surface -all sorts of changes in camber, ripples & stuff. Every time I drive down it I'm convinced I've got a puncture.

Thats all very reassuring. As a first builder I was worrying how much my inaccuracies would matter, so was being a bit over cautious. In the end I checked with a line through the headstock to check that the distance from the headstock to the top caliper plate bolt was identicalon both sides, and made sure the axle was perfectly level with the build table.

I figured if the headstock to axle triangle was equal and the axle was parallel to the floor then it would be ok

As Andy said very reassuring I really appreciate the feedback on this as a new builder it is good to
know that I'm not heading in the wrong direction.

Thanks again

Eddie

Obviously, I'm not advocating sloppy building, (Gawd knows there's enough of those machines on the roads already), & you should be as accurate as possible, cos at the end of the day, it's your arse in the saddle -but we're talking about little hardtail Reliants here. They're bumpy, bouncy, noisy -but fun. The basicness is half the attraction.
Take all the advice you can get, learn from the experience of others, (& borrow their skills if yours aren't up to the job), & build the best you can -but enjoy it.  

My eyes arent really up to reading 1mm on a tape measure now :)

Ha! Youre so right Nabsim! My eyes move all over the place trying to read the smaller markings!
 Just my 2p...I measured the diagonals dozens of times to get it right! Even had a slight sag in the tape making a difference.

Yeah, I usually measure everything from the centre of the top of the headstock, taking as many different measurements as I can & re-checking after almost every weld, (better to tweak as you go than final weld everything then discover it's crept out of true).

one measurement that is important is from a point on the rear hubs to front whell spindle, if there good it will drive straight, even if the rest of the frame is twisted to hell. not spreading the heat when welding of course with change every diamention you measured when tacking ;)

That's good to know OAB that isn't a measurement I would have taken  :-\

A little more progress!
 
I managed to borrow a tool to help me check the alignment of the headstock from a friend who used to build
chop's and had made it up as part of his frame jig.It is basically two tapered cones with a threaded hole in the centre into which screws a 19 mm threaded bar. We marked a centre line on the floor aligned the bar
on to the centre line on the floor where the front wheel would be and a plumb line from the back of the threaded bar also to align with the line on the floor.

I hope that makes sense but maybe the photo's will help  :)

More pics

we built a wooden frame jig so as to know the front and rear are pointing in the same direction

and also tried several way of notching pipe. Rod let's just say tube mitre rock's!!!
Thanks for that one.

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Looking good there Ed,
You must of spent quite a while with the grinder on those joints.

Just the ticket, and all the "jig" you will ever need!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Great start Ed - looking forward to your build :)

Thanks guys  I hope to get some more done to it during the week

and there`s nothing wrong with being 5` 2"  ??? ??? ??? ???

If you've got six mates of a similar size and know a bint named Snow White  .......    ;D

  ..  Hagar  ..   ;D

Unless it's width. :)

tehe  ;D ;D ;D

Or laying down  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Got some more done to the trike this weekend, it's starting to look more like a trike
and less like a pile of scrap tube!

Alan came down again so we bent up the rear kicks to meet the axle and made a start
on cleaning the axle up and making the clamps which will hold it in place.

We also fully welded the 2 crossmember's in place that will take the front and rear engine/gearbox mounts.

Using the tube mitre program we scalloped the rear tube's to fit the axle mounts.They fitted basically
first time with very little dressing up although as you can see in one of the photo's we almost had the axle
pointing up in the air until we caught on !!

Plenty of roonm to work there!

Yeh but it's hard to stop it becoming a storage facility for all the stuff the wife doesn't want in the house any more!

just use the grinder close to her pile until its smouldering nicely

Nice one might try that!!

mmm no pictures,Ill try again

Again

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thats just how i made mine,,appart from i put a washer between the plates when i welded em up  it just gives you that bit of ,,squeese when you clamp the axle,, ;)

Looking good and a inspiration to me to get going soon I'm dreading the first cut I've just got the steel yesterday for the head peace

I know what you mean ,having never did a trike before we
Looked at it for a long while before committing to steel but
With some good advice on here all going well

Got the clamps fully welded hopefully
Get them welded to the frame at the
weekend

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.....and some new goodies arrived as well

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and sitting in place

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Hi Spanners

I have a couple of mm cut from the tube so that it is not touching whin sitting on the axel tube so
hopefully that will do the same thing

What are the other fibreglass parts in your pic?

Hi MM

Those are dummy split tanks and a centre dash panel to join them together
I hope to be able to cover the carb and maybe the dizzy with them keeping
them out of sight

Never seen those in fibreglass before. Who makes them?

I'll check when I get home from work and post a link
if I can...I think it's sgf trikes

links for the fibreglass parts i got

http://www.sgftrikes.com/index.htm

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIKE-MUDGUARDS-REAR-FENDERS-FIBREGLASS-CUSTOM-PROJECT-/261099407853?pt=UK_CartsParts_Vehicles_ATVQuad_Trike_Parts_Accessories_SM&hash=item3ccabcc9ed

hope this helps

axle clamps now fitted and fully welded

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we turned the frame upside down to weld the bottom of the clamps

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and while we were there we did the frame braces

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And then it was on to the engine mounts ,we started with a nut welded on to a washer

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Then because the engine mount is sitting on top of the frame side rail and the front brace we use 2 printouts from tubemitre to allow for
the 2 angles that we were trying to achieve and overlaid them to come up with this

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it worked out pretty good with only a bit of fettling required for a good fit

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we also decided that 1 washer may not be strong enough so before fully welding we put another washer on top for good measure

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both in place

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 hi scannerzer,  will you not need any rubber between the mounting's on the fame and engine brackets ?

Never used rubbers on any of mine Zak. Single washer's always worked fine too, but peace of mind's worth spending a little extra time on.  ;)
Nice work chaps.

i just wandered as i think the only reliant trike i owned had a engine kind of ruber mounting between the engine bracket and the bracket on the frame just thought it might have cut down on any vibration

Vibration's not been a real problem with mine.
Most of the bikes I've owned, (mostly Brit twins & 70s/80s Japs), have had solidly mounted engines. Similar vibration levels. No problem.  :)

Hopefully it will be ok without any rubber mount .All the posts I have read before starting have been solidly mounted so thats the way we went. If it is a problem we would have enough room to put a rubber mount in but that will be a last resort.

ive got know rubber mounts and its fine, get a very slight vibration noise from the tank only when down shifting from 4th to 3rd? but ive got no rubber mounts on the tank either

Tube mitre ?..I take it you just use a piece of paper rolled up or an old toilet roll tube to make a template ?

It's a program on the Internet tube mitre .exe .it allows you to input
2 pipe diameter and the angle at which they meet. When you print it
out you get 2 lines on the page,one solid one dashed just cut along
the solid line and rap the paper around the tube then mark the line and
your ready to cut.seems fairly accurate

Like this

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Thanks OAB it's nice to get some feedback on this

Like I said wrap a piece of paper round the tube,bit of cellotape to hold together ,remove from tube,place on / next to tube ,draw a pencil line,cut with scissors/ knife, job done,slide paper back over tube,mark your lines ? Don't need some computer ,praps I'm to old school ?..I musta watched to much Blue Peter ?..he,he..I'm enjoying your build guys ,keep it up..

Thanks Stinkey the encouragement always welcome

ado scannerzer, im sure you know the layout of you frame by now, but sometimes you dont see things untill its to late, depending on the hight of your backbone(tank tube) it may be worth removing the cross member in front of the engine,, the strength will still be there as the engine mounts hold the frame rails,, but you may need to slide the motor forward to get it out, it may just save the paint on the frame ;)  just an observation

I see wot you mean OAB I'll have to have a look at that ,it isn't something I had given any thought to

you could put it further up, makes a good mount for the rad

made a start today on the rear engine mounts

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with a bit of a fillet for extra support

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Then finished welding the front mounts now that we're sure they were in the right place

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Gave the engine a bit of a clean before refitting it this time, it made such a difference to it

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Then spot primed our welds

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and put the engine back in

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so that we could make a start on the prop

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We checked run out by rolling the prop on a flat surface and adjusting it so the we had it near as parallel as we could get before final welding

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then fitted it to the trike,I think it looks soooo much more completed with the prop fitted !

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Thanks to Alan (dr-750) seen with the grinder in these photos and Nathan for taking the photo's today I wouldn't be so far on without their help

Looking good

Thanks Dave yours is coming on well to

I'm liking this very much, keep at it sir

Progress in leaps and bounds  :)
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thank guys much appreciated

looking good impressive work rate  :)

Makes such a difference to have mates to help doesn't it, even if they just boost your enthusiasm & confidence & give you someone to bounce ideas off.
I'd get the top tube in fairly soon, before the headstock tries to droop under the weight of the front end.
Are you gonna swap the clutch arm over to the other side of the gearbox? (makes fitting a left hand clutch pedal a lot simpler).
Nice job.  ;)

It does indeed MM some days I just wouldn't go to the shed if there weren't someone there.

The frame is still sitting on bricks while it's on the jig so hopefully we won't get any sag but I'll maybe drop the front end out
anyway just in case! I do intend to swap the clutch over now that i have cleaned the engine,at the minuite its siezed so i have to go in there anyway so no reason not to

Good work fella

Looking very good :)

Great progress

not much done this weekend but every little help's

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working until next sunday but might try and do a bit during the week

Is the rad going inside or outside the engine cradle?

it will be inside the cradle with a fan shroud to keep fingers safe

Keeping the fan then :)

yeh for the time being anyway til i see how it goes and then maybe go mini 2 core rad and lecky fan if needed

Lookin' good!
Quick word of caution to prospective builders- don't forget to leave enough room under the top tube, particularly at the back, to get the engine rocker cover off to set the tappets & to remove the engine from the frame. Not that I've ever built a frame then found I couldn't, honest.  :P

   
   
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yeh for the time being anyway til i see how it goes and then maybe go mini 2 core rad and lecky fan if needed

I didnt know about the fan thing Come on then what's wrong with the fan and why change it

Dunno I kept it on mine but see others ditch it

Nowt wrong with the std fan except that it's quite offset. If you fit the a Reliant or Mini radiator symetrical to the frame, the fan sticks out on the nearside. The fan is also quite thick meaning you need a large gap between engine and rad.

I hope that I have left enough room!?? with a bit of tidying of the pipes and stuff that are on top of the engine will leave a bit more room
on that subject is it simply a matter of joining the 2 heater piped together to complete the water circuit?

As far as the fan goes I'm keeping it if i can as i might not want to run a car battery and the less load i have on the electrical system the better i figure it will be and also i already have it so it's free!

Don't forget thermostat housing isn't angled out to the inlet of the radiator if too tight nightmare for the hose to do an s shape to connect I made my own stat housing angled out
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And yes that was/is a stainless handrail 'end' lol

Nice solution to the thermostat housing problem :) At the moment I have a very tight s bend and am not really happy with the strain it's putting on the rad. Why the f### did reliant have to be different and not equispace the bolt holes.

Yes I found that out when I designed the flange plate.. I'm getting cut some 3mm mild soon I can add one on for you if you go that route may get some gusset plates too :) oo gussets

A flange would be a great start thanks :D

mmm nice ......a shiney flange

Only once you scrape the scale off.. :o

how much for one of them flange's Steve

I used 2 45 degree hoses & a length of steel tube as a hose joiner, to curve the top hose around the frame tube..
I'm told that ditching the mechanical fan can save a couple of all important horsepower. Also think the engine looks prettier without it & the electric fans can be tucked in behind the rad, out of sight, thus saving the need for a fan shroud. An electric fan is thermostatically controlled, so only cuts in when needed, rather than running all the time like the mechanical one.

Cost of postage merv problem is it was designed to fit the handrail end i found in the garage so not sure if any use to ya you could always drill through an existing stat housing to generate

a zzr 600 top rad pipe is the exact fitment you guys are after if using the reliant stat housing, its neet and tidy 25mm bore and has the correct shape already so know kinking, i had one lying about but only A few qiuds on ebay i expect ;)

Handy to know.

got some work done on the build this weekend. It's finally on it's feet so to speak which feels like a turning point towards a finished trike.

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While the engine was out this time we decided to split the box from it and change the clutch arm from right to left.It was right messy in there

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luckly the spring dowls had been put in in 2 pieces so punched out easily to the rear,the clutch is knackered so will need replaced but i would probably have done that anyway

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The flywheel cleaned up ok and all the oily gunk cleaned off.Although there seemed to be quite a lot of oil around the clutch bell housing the crank oil seal is fine and the oil was all higher up,hopefully just years of little spills that had accumaulated but I'll have to keep an eye
on that when it's up and running.

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temporarily we built the engine and box back together and put it in the frame,stood back and admired our progress!

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Good work chaps!
I see your seat rails are quite high on the back of the top tube -can you sit astride that comfortably? Seat height on mine is usually around 20" from the ground.

yeh we tried that because I'v got quite short legs and so has the wife who this is actually surposed to be for. it will end up with mid controls around about oil filter position down the frame rails leaving us with bent knees rather than straight legs and also quite short handle
bars. On that subject everyone seems to favor beach bars, low and wide but i quite fancy apes or z bars,are there any reason why not,
ie does the wide bars make it easier to control?

Yeah, more leverage. 45 degrees of rake makes the front end very stable at road speeds, but a little heavy at lower speeds, (manouvering around carparks etc). So wider bars make it easier to control.

Thanks MM thats good to know might have to have a rethink on the bars then.Just checked the seat hight 22" from ground to the front of the rail. might look like I'm perched on it but should be comfortable

 :) Don't forget to check you can comfortably reach the bars on full lock -don't want to be flailing around trying to reach the throttle, or have the other end digging you in the belly.

there will have to be a lot of thought put into the bars,getting it wrong could spoil the trike if i were unconfortable

Looking good that is

Thanks Dave, I think you have overtaken me with your build,it's coming along nicely also

started with the mounting of the dummy tank and the seat .getting the tank side's to fit the way we wanted
took far longer than you'd think but it was a case of measure twice cut once!

will post pictures of the mount's later but you get the idea

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the jury's out on the dash panel between the tanks ,what do fellow monkey's think?? :-\

I like it keeps the yolks clear like the seat as well ,, I'm still debating about my seat tomorrow will be the deciding day on it

Did you use 11/4 for the chassis rails ? Looking good the tank is striking what's the colour scheme? :)

looking good :)

when i make up bars/footpegs, i sit on trike chassis and "assume the position" then chrissie measures the distance from hands to top yoke and also width between my hands. when you've established your measurements just step back and think/imagine how the metal, the bars, will be shaped to get from hands to top yoke.......then get on and make your own bars. finally, while my feet are in the riding position, chrissie marks the chassis where my footpegs need to be mounted :D :)

keep up the good work ;) 8)

Some good ideas there Pete

thanks guy's. 11/4 Steven ? .colour is going to be either metallic purple or metallic blue

got the seat mount sorted today. It was a complete a#*e to bend this hoop drove us nuts for a while
then we marked it in 1" spaces so we could bend it equal amounts each side.

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this cross bar will serve a duel purpose,it will be the rear mount for the seat supports and the front mount for
the luggage rack/pillion seat.

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we welded a nut into the top of the hoop to secure the seat using the original mount. the seat is from a Harley which i bought
from the local dealer closing down sale.

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hopefully the under seat area will make an electric's box

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finished up the seat bracket and support tonight

front keep for the seat

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then the support

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it's designed to pick up on the parts of the seat that would
 have sat on the bike frame rails

then welded to the frame,this will also provide for the electric's box
and maybe battery location as well

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Any lateral supports planned?

Hi Steven yes one across where the sides bend,I think thats wot you mean.

had to work today so not much don but do you recognise this MM,it's you old sump
cleaned up and ready for...well i'm not sure what,i'm thinking of haveing it coated by
a local company who repair petrol tanks or maybe just paint it

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Certainly didn't look that clean when I sent it to you!
I had one shot blasted & powder-coated once & re-fitted it, filled it with oil & watched it all pour out again. They'd shotblasted a pinhole through one corner but not noticed, then coated it.  :P

not cool !! i might fill this one with liquid before i paint it or what ever but i honstly think it's fine
I can't see any bits that might leak,get a gasket now and it will be ready to fit as soon as i decide
how to finish it

Well worth doing, it doesn't take long.  White spirit or petrol will quickly show any holes that you can't see otherwise.
Had to solder up a couple of pin holes in mine and would like an ally sump but it's not a priority

good idea ON i wa sorta wondering what to use,didn't want to put water in it but white
 spirit would be ideal,thanks for the idea

made a start on the handle bars today. first drilled 2 holes in a
piece of angle iron at the same spacing as the top yoke then welded
2 nuts on to 2 washers as with the engine mounts thene used a magnetic
clamp to ho;d the handle bar in place at hopefully 90 degrees

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then did the same with the other side (sorry forgot to take a pic !)

made 2 cross pieces on for the bottom and one for the top, tacked them in place
and ended up with this

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I'm sure these wont be to everyone's taste but I wanted some thing quite
high but also wide, I think these fit the bill,all i need now is the switch
gear and throttle twist grip and i can sort the ends!

Very neatly done. I especially like the way you tightened up the bends as it were by cutting out a section.
As you say might not be to everyones taste (I like them) but so what, it's your trike.  :)

Are your mirrors going on the bars?

thanks ON ,the bender wouldn't go to a tight enough radius and was kinking the pipe so
we cut a v in the bar to get where we needed to be,hopefully be strong enough when
welded.

Yes Steven hopefully the mirrors will be on the bars,as my arms are quit high maybe
under them rather than on top

I bent mine as the top bar (two 35 degree bends) with two uprights from the yokes .. ???

Hi Steven ,I think ours kinked because the tube isn't a good fit into the shoe
of the bender,it's only a cheap bender and the shoe's arn't very well made
(and yes I know a bad workman blames his tools  ;D)

what sort of rise did you go for? mines about 10" I think so quite high but
I like the way you bars slope down as they go back but i jut couldn't achieve
that unless I cut the bens through an reweld them on at a different angle

Looking good  :)
I opted to put mirrors underside of bars to keep top a little more "streamline". I welded a small mounting plate to front side of bars, on both left & right hand side, so mirrors could be mounted either under or above.

yeh good idea Pete at least you had the option when the time came,no problem
seeing with them under the bars then??

No problem at all, have good field of vision  :)
One good thing about having mirrors under bars is that if/when I need to pull a tarp over the trike it don't get hung up on mirrors like it would if they were on top ;) :)

sorta jumping from one thing to another so have abandon the handlebars for now and moved
on to the exhaust.as i scrapped a complete car to build this trike i had a complete exhaust in
quite good condition so decided to try an mod it to fit,waste not want not (and well i'm told
i'm a bit tight)

we cut it about 2 foot from the engine end and then cut the mounting flange of allowing
it to be moved closer to the engine then tacked the flang back on

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then using the bender bent it up and over the gearbox crossmember,surprisingly it
 didn't kink as it's quite thin walled

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and reused the backbox for now but this might get replaced withe something shiney in due coarse
and will maybe heatwrap the front pipe

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well its one more job of the list

Looks like it fits suprisingly well in the space you've got!

Are you moving the clutch lever?

more by luck than judgment MM i'm sorry to say

no Steven it clears the exhaust ok although it can be bent out a little if needs be,
at the moment i have no clutch fitted so i'm not sure what the travel will be

Less than an inch of movement from fully on to fully off. The clutch arm travel is limited by special Reliant engineering -it hits the gearbox casing & won't go any further. Most of my builds have been of the Try It & See design. Works for me.  :)

thank MM thast good to know i'l have to sort the foot controls next can't put it off any longer ???

got a start on the foot pegs tonight.decided to put the pivot through the frame so marked and squared
and drilled some holes!

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just checking the they are opposite each other before welding

Alan made these inserts on the lathe. they are 22mm outside and 19mm inside.
the bush to be used is from a mercedes lorry rear brake bias lever and have a 16mm hole
for the pivot to go through.they are cheap and easily available should they need replaced

with the inserts now welded to the frame all i need to do now is make some pedals and pegs
and we're good!

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Also got given these today. banded minor wheels from back in the day.
had planned on some sort of alloy wheel but think these might look cool
done body colour with some sort of alloy centre

Alan doesn't agree >:(

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Might be a bit pitted after cleaning! Go for some nice alloy to compliment all your hard work , wheels tank and frame will be your main features

I put banded Moggy wheels on Taz's trike & thought they looked great. Depends on the look you're going for. Shotblasted & powder-coated, with a chrome Moggy hubcap, they'd look cool. More importantly, they're free!

i,ve got them on mine.

Straight bolt-on fit to Reliant hubs.

steven thats what Alan said to and you are right about the main features so I'll
ahve to give this one some thought,it could be make or break.

I may be a worrywort but I'm a little concerned about you drilling 22mm holes through the bottom frame tubes and welding in, 1.5mm wall tube inserts.
I know the main tubes are over engineered but thats a lot of strength you have taken out. Was taught that tubes inserted in this fashion should always be of equal or greater wall thickness to the main tube and welds must be continuous and all round.

i have thought about that and have thought about splitting another tube and placeing it
around the frame rail then welding in place for a bit of extra strenght but not sure if that would help

I drilled a 12.5 mm through mine it's strong as houses I wouldn't worry

Must admit that went through my mind I would weld half a tube cut  length ways on the iner bit off the frame to strengthen it if I were you 

Just drill a bigger hole and fit a bigger dia thick wall tube.
Turn it out of solid if you have nothing to suit.

Rather than drill out larger I'd be inclined to use thicker wall tube and reduce the size of the shaft you're putting through it. The cross section of the frame tubes has been reduced and 16mm is pretty big for a pivot shaft.
Local reinforcement of the frame is another way to go but is possibly not as neat

at this stage local reinforcement is the only option i really have as these are seam welded in
already buy it will be easily hidden by the time i get footboards on there but sure i'll know for
the next build ;) ;)

went shopping today and got these bits that will allow me to finish the bars

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thanks to everyone for all the advice it's greatly appreciated as it's easy to change or improve on something
as i go along rather than find out at the end when it's basicly too late!!

proposed method of strengthening at pedal pivot

sorry for the quality of the drawing ....autocad it ain't but hopfully you get the idea

That's what I would do but make it so its longer to take the stress away from the hole

Isn't the main force going to be lengthways along the frame tubes in this application? If so I would have thought it would be fine as it is. I have no training on this though I am just speaking what's in my head

I tested this out in the shop and I couldn't bend it!

nabsim we did think that but not completely sure either


Steven that good to know i was wondering if anyone had done a test

I drilled two holes 12.5mm centre to the pipe and off centre about 300 mm from one end on a 1.5 mtr length and wedged it in the fork lift bars and tried to bend it nope didn't bugde I was hanging off it and it did flex but returned, this stuff is used in my industry as bed poles and you can swing a 20 stone man off a pole located three inches into a socket in the bed

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thanks for the info Steven ,goes to show it's stronger than you'd think

Begining to wish I'd kept quiet on this one.
 Just thought it was worth sharing my concerns, over reducing the cross sectional area of the frame tubes by  45 per cent.

I think this over steps the common sense theory hence trying it, it was 12.5 not 22 which seems a bit big to me so I'd test it or go with the beef up.. Ill use my software tommorow night at college to calculate it properly :)

No ON I'd prefare you would bring it to my attention as then it can be re-jigged to suit
and debate can only be good on the forum so any and all comments are welcome.

thanks everyone for your feedback,without which it would be a much less interesting thread

as i have to make a mount for the footboard anyway i'm going to re-inforce the frame at the
same time, 2 birds 1 stone then it's all good

It's your bum in the saddle Mr Scan, so ultimately your choice, but personally, I'd always err on the side of caution. Over engineered is better than in the hedge.  ;)
As you say, open discussion can only help & may just inform another reader somewhere who hadn't thought of it.

Don't say that, it's good. I only put what I would have done/thought before this thread. I quite often have to ask what seems like stupid questions to get things right in my head. What I put was not meant in any way to cast doubt on what you or others have put. Just seems logical to me that if the main stress is going along the tubes into the cross tube it would still be strong as force would go round cross tube. If forces were going down on fame tube then I would think it could be weaker. Need some more type so I can understand so don't stop whatever you do :)

Saw this bike (backbone) and thought about this :)
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Has that been in or on something in the last few days Steve, seems familiar?

Twizzle customs posted it on the book of face :)

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More holes in frame work .. :)

can't belive it's been more than a month from I last worked on the trike but back at it at last

the tube we bent to surport the rear of the carrier didn't look right so i borrowed a different
pipe bender from a friend who builds his own bike frames

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it's home made using a bottle jack but uses a much heavier former ,it made such a difference

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the bends look so much more even using this former

as this went well new handlebars were next

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much lower and swept back more
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then we finished the carrier as thing had went so well for a change

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lots done and of to the bike show in Dublin tomorrow for some inspiration and maybe some goodies!

I'm heading there too :)

maybe we'll see you there Steve we hope to be down shortly after 10 am leaving here about 8
but there might be a breakfast stop to slow us down  ;D ;D

I was given tickets so thought I'd pop along :)

thats never so bad ,you can't look a gift horse in the mouth as they say

Looking good;

Where's your battery and cylinders goin?

cylinder is going just behind the front seat battery one side of the prop and electric box on the other
hoping to put the fuel filler between the frame and the seat on one side and the ign switch on the other

I think Steve may mean the brake/clutch master cylinders when he said cylinders?

you know you could be right there Pete  ;D i just assumed that it was the one in the picture.
The brake cylinder will be just behind the gearbox crossmember and rod operated via an idler
so the rod pulls rather than pushing and allows me to alter the pedal ratio

Hurray up wanna see it.. Lol

made a start on the foot controls

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pay no attention to the red tube on the clutch pedal it will be replaced with 1mm flat plate
when i get some ,then fitted with car pedal rubbers

That should work nicely. Are the footboards from a bike or have you made 'em yourself?

They are from the rear of a honda goldwing MM an ebay find for a tenner!!

hope to get lots done this weekend as I don't have to work again until wedensday

started to gusset the frame

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and make a mount for the brake m/c and handbrake

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decided to tip the handbrake lever slightly buy bending the brackets hopefully to make it easier to operate

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m/c and handbrake mounted

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sit's nice and flat to the engine when not in use

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but easily clear's your thigh when in use

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coming together nicely. must be cold there, you got gloves on ;) :D

it is Pete temp in the shed probably not more than about 2 deg at best,we actually thought it was warmer outside ::)

2 degrees! Luxury!

pressing on with the brake linkage

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the bush for the idler was slightly to big so filed it down like this3

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and fitted to the idler which has 2 positions for the rod from the pedal

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idler fitted

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and started on a gear linkage  design shamelessly stolen from andyrennison  :D

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finished the gear change

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various rods for the linkage layed out as in use
the collar on the new gear stick allows for the lift for reverse

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the reason for the splitpin in the gear stick will become obvious

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the spring serves 2 purpose's it keeps the gear stick pulled slightly to the right keeping it near the frame
when in neutral and when you push down on the collar the gear stick automatically moves right for reverse
and you only have to pull it back

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a monkey on his creation  ;D ;D

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/B0065974-8F71-4753-9BAF-BC3639DB634A-656-000001052F5AFB83_zps46472e68.jpg)
all gears work as they should ,result  :o :o

a little r&r after a hard days work

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Nathan

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Alan (DR-BIG 750 on here)

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and the monkey himself ME  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks to Nathan and Alan for a good weekends work and to Andy R for the idea for the gear change
which worked first time

 :) I really can't get my head around how that all works -but looks great. Another big step forward then. Onwards chaps!

hope this helps but my drawing ain't that hot  ::)

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this shows a diagram against the picture might make a bit clearer

hmmm will keep an eye out for some of those :)

Fantastic! good to see an idea stolen and improved on, The spring is a cracking idea  will be fitting that to mine :)

axle location and rear bumper today

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drilled the rear axle clamp

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and welded a pin to the axle to stop any possibility of the axle turning in the clamps

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/8D63A593-9B6F-46EB-B094-64E298BC9481-120-000000135FF9E49A_zps342512a3.jpg)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/659F1560-EABE-44A3-8FAA-7DB62901654A-120-000000136989E5EF_zpsf5d6e52a.jpg)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/21BF78AB-9C01-4CDD-9FB0-9579D3F03955-120-0000001379C5EC7D_zps8e1fc9e5.jpg)
bent up the rear bumper

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and welded it in place covering the axle locating pins making them invisable

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/150320131131_zps01832dd3.jpg)
turned down 2 bar ends

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/5666BFD2-21D1-46E7-998F-B2506420BB24-120-000000139BF98886_zpsd1400646.jpg)
and now have them fitted to the bars but my phone battery ran flat so no photo's  :-[ :-[

hopefully get some in the morning

I was thinking of drilling and tapping mine m8 later

it's just a precaution as the clamps are so tight i don't think they would move anyway,
are you going to drill the axle and tap it?

I thought that, until my foot slipped off the clutch!
Now I have 1/2" square bars welded to the tubes locating into slots in the front clamp sections :)

Yeah I may do then use a socket button cap screw to finish

That's why I always use this type of welded bracket to locate the axle! never had a prob. Morrag

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made a spacer from this to hold the bottom bearing in the headstock tight,didn't get picture of the spacer
as the phone was flat :-[

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then made a cover to hide the spacer

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/A9A3993A-68F4-417D-A7D8-AE2F525E3828-120-00000100CDBB039F_zpsc22042b2.jpg)
the steering stop and lock will be fitted to this

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/E7CE45FD-7952-43F7-965D-B55DC1BDB01B-120-00000100E3E30D68_zps340eebbd.jpg)
bar ends and hand controls fitted

Fine progress Sir!

Going like a rocket!

Whoosh!

At this rate he'll be finished in no time  :D
Nice one Eddie.

Thanks guys :)

slow down....still trying to work out the gear shift ::)

selecting reverse....push down on new gear stick to raise original stick in g-box. I get that, but it's the "sleeve" through frame thats foxing me. The rod passing through the sleeve would need to raise/fall ??? maybe im looking at it the wrong way ::) :D


 

Baffled me too Pete -so I stopped thinking about it.

The rod through the chassis sleve is at the same level as the point of rotation of the original gearstick ball. The upper rod is pivoted, so depressing the gear knowb raises the original stick and vice versa. The pivot arm moves forwards and backwards in tandem with the new gear stick, this provides an extra push pull on the original gear stick. The new gear stick can move up and down.

this type of change works really well ,feels natural and is free of excess movement
provided all your parts are fairly close fitting .well worth doing

Ahha, it makes sense now Ive seen the latest drawing showing the "2 piece" new gear stick with spring underneath :)

as it turnes out the brake air tank i was giong to use as a petrol tank won't fit just about
anywhere i want to put it,bad desighing on my behalf but now i've got to roll with it.

my thoughts are to make a tank to fit under the rack on the back and above the prop but
i have some questions

what thickness metal should i use
would folded corner's welded inside and out be better or would butt welded corners do the job
would i need to get it lined with something to make it more leak resistant
does it have to meet any standard to pass msva

thanks all

eddie

Material thickness sort of depends on the type of material used as does the welding/soldering/brazing.
I made my oval tank with steel 1mm skin with 1.6mm ends and baffles, mig welded. ground. then welded again.
I did line it, that was a disaster but it's not leaked yet.
Any reason why you're not using a conventional bike tank? Or perhaps a locost tank might do.

I have made a couple using stainless steel fire extinguishers as a base, or M.S would be fine, and after blanking the end where the discharge fitted, then putting in an outlet taping point, bingo, they are not huge at around 2.3 galls, wbeing the capacity of the ones I used, but no doubt there are larger to be had..................Morrag

never thought of that ON but the locost looks like i was thinking,the reason for not using a
bike tank was just so that i could drop the fibre glass ones down over the engine keeping
the profile lower


thats similar to the air tank i was going to use but maybe smaller so might have a look at those

thanks guys

My 2p...My tank is 2 ends of two  'dumpy' calor gas bottles with a rolled sheet tigged in between to space them apart. I also fitted a baffle in the middle.
  My Locost tank was a minivan tank,but maybe some have different ones?

spent the day helping Alan to put his dr 750 back together and tyring to get it going so not much done
but went to the local motorsport store and got some goodies

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/E8D59D08-3EB6-4C94-9BF0-8D4196FAFF16-2354-0000045DC2A029EA_zps705229cd.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/E8D59D08-3EB6-4C94-9BF0-8D4196FAFF16-2354-0000045DC2A029EA_zps705229cd.jpg.html)

I nearly S*#t when i got the bill 94 F#@%ing pound toys don't come cheap  ???  :o

ah well you can't take it with you as i keep telling the wife ;D ;D

Dont worry about it, if you gave the money to your wife I expect she would only waste it on food & rent  ;) :D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D yeh Pete your probably right

PMSL @ Pete!

been busy today,hand brake cables,radiator mounts and a mocked up front mud guard

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/79CFD79D-1B19-4812-BC95-20D6443AF233-4746-000007BDB7E38E70_zpsc8b1e24a.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/79CFD79D-1B19-4812-BC95-20D6443AF233-4746-000007BDB7E38E70_zpsc8b1e24a.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/CF3D6E77-2C7C-4055-BA2D-33B8009BB320-4746-000007BEA797BA1B_zps13f297e1.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/CF3D6E77-2C7C-4055-BA2D-33B8009BB320-4746-000007BEA797BA1B_zps13f297e1.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/79C063F9-BE15-4C63-BC20-9209DDBB32A0-4746-000007BECC9EB46A_zpsdb897a56.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/79C063F9-BE15-4C63-BC20-9209DDBB32A0-4746-000007BECC9EB46A_zpsdb897a56.jpg.html)
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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/04BA4571-4AB2-477D-A743-DCEBC53C36DF-4746-000007BFEE492ACB_zpseda51fdc.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/04BA4571-4AB2-477D-A743-DCEBC53C36DF-4746-000007BFEE492ACB_zpseda51fdc.jpg.html)

as you can see we used the original cables to simplify future replacement

more

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cables finished and on to radiator

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/9262E27F-5E62-4442-87ED-C9739E8AA174-4746-000007C0388FDBEB_zpsaad5ecfe.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/9262E27F-5E62-4442-87ED-C9739E8AA174-4746-000007C0388FDBEB_zpsaad5ecfe.jpg.html)
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front muddie may end up a bit like this if i can get a new one but steel trailer guard are thin on the ground over here

Hi scannerzer

What is your front mud guard from as that is what I'm looking for, am I right in thinking you have a Suzuki front end

Hi Merv

the mudguard is from a trailer,i found it in a shed at the farm and i don't know exactly what it's from
but i have been looking for one for a while to use on my bike.front end i was told is fj 1200 but i can't
be sure of that.

all the trailer companies i have contacted use plastic guards now and i havn't traced one down yet

Try Banbury Trailers.
They sell them individually at about £15 inc vat
Used a pair of 12" ones on the back of Deliverance. Widened and shortened.  Radius a nice close fit on 205 50 15
Should imagine 14" would do for front, just ask them the radius.

Thanks ON I'll chase that one up

made up a battery box today,sorry got carried away and didn't take many photo's but here's what there is :-[

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/6C7D540D-08E6-49B1-BBD5-E7C8CF172222-2542-000003D7490C6664_zps8c30c047.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/6C7D540D-08E6-49B1-BBD5-E7C8CF172222-2542-000003D7490C6664_zps8c30c047.jpg.html)
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with the seat on it's hardly visible

That works then! Full sized car battery too, rather than the bike sized one I had to use. Looks good.

yep apart from going in at an angle all fit's snuggly

Tucked away nicely :) Finding room for a good size battery is always going to be difficult.
Can you still get the engine and box out easily.

Talking about tucked away nicely what's the race bike in the background.

yeh because my rad is infront of the engine instead of outside the frame if the rad is removed the engine goes foward quite a bit and then out of the left side of the frame


it's only a mini moto of chinese origin that we are trying to get running properly,it only knows flatout

Great work

Looking good. Had you thought of some infill panels under seat to hide battery? Could also be used to mount a switch of some description?

I agree with Andy,fits in there nice and snug. I also like the suggested infill panel.Just a thought..make sure the battery terminals are well insulated from those overhead bits of box!

hope to do just that Pete to mount the ignition switch and maybe hazard switch


will probably end up with some sort of plastic cover over it,either over the + or maybe the whole thing

started to put the brakes back together tonight

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/80840E8C-B6EF-4BC5-8B4A-69CB83AB36DA-3732-000005A886CEBDA1_zps7ac8a99b.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/80840E8C-B6EF-4BC5-8B4A-69CB83AB36DA-3732-000005A886CEBDA1_zps7ac8a99b.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/F7AB0405-C83A-4BD2-891B-C2FA89A6DEA1-3732-000005A891D5BB8B_zps03d28ead.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/F7AB0405-C83A-4BD2-891B-C2FA89A6DEA1-3732-000005A891D5BB8B_zps03d28ead.jpg.html)

and fitted these 4" to 108mm adaptors
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/76CEB001-A2BE-4B81-A17D-A2303A5D7E43-3732-000005A89993CE36_zps82a90844.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/76CEB001-A2BE-4B81-A17D-A2303A5D7E43-3732-000005A89993CE36_zps82a90844.jpg.html)

which came with these from the local trike shop
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/9BCDEA65-07DF-478B-96B3-52BB3BD86516-3732-000005A8A4F78F78_zps6f27cd1e.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/9BCDEA65-07DF-478B-96B3-52BB3BD86516-3732-000005A8A4F78F78_zps6f27cd1e.jpg.html)

and i don't surpose anyone's got one of there going spare,it split whin i was refitting it
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/C26D36D1-ABE0-45E7-88A6-1CDDCC10AAC6-3732-000005A8AE3C8BD0_zps6dcacf67.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/C26D36D1-ABE0-45E7-88A6-1CDDCC10AAC6-3732-000005A8AE3C8BD0_zps6dcacf67.jpg.html)

time for the fun and games wiring to begin

the looms from the handle bar switches were too short so had to be extended,soldered and covered with heat shrink. each one was joined in a different place to avoid a wide spot in the loom

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/31C5D513-1ECA-4E76-AC28-22ECB401BB12-5870-00000A6F43664B45_zpsda736f3e.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/31C5D513-1ECA-4E76-AC28-22ECB401BB12-5870-00000A6F43664B45_zpsda736f3e.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/29747770-7B19-4FE0-A5E2-3D157E89B559-5870-00000A6F4AEEA231_zps42f43173.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/29747770-7B19-4FE0-A5E2-3D157E89B559-5870-00000A6F4AEEA231_zps42f43173.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/FAE5288A-59C1-4B22-A248-3DDEBF23B042-5870-00000A6F52AEF4FC_zpsb1745319.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/FAE5288A-59C1-4B22-A248-3DDEBF23B042-5870-00000A6F52AEF4FC_zpsb1745319.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/5E698D46-71A2-437D-9434-3BDFDCFAF426-5870-00000A6F5BD05F6D_zpsae433b01.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/5E698D46-71A2-437D-9434-3BDFDCFAF426-5870-00000A6F5BD05F6D_zpsae433b01.jpg.html)

had to make spacers for the headlamp the fitted and wired it and the front indicators
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/6BB9CFC5-0EF4-421B-A63A-DD8B10DFDEC3-5870-00000A6F7A1F20B1_zps95b48ce0.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/6BB9CFC5-0EF4-421B-A63A-DD8B10DFDEC3-5870-00000A6F7A1F20B1_zps95b48ce0.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/6AE84D4D-8AE1-4C79-AF3A-B1B4676F8B22-5870-00000A6F69476431_zps7efa8fc7.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/6AE84D4D-8AE1-4C79-AF3A-B1B4676F8B22-5870-00000A6F69476431_zps7efa8fc7.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1049EFDA-757E-4739-8CFA-B1BF755D02E8-5870-00000A6F71FCDEEA_zps734695de.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1049EFDA-757E-4739-8CFA-B1BF755D02E8-5870-00000A6F71FCDEEA_zps734695de.jpg.html)

spagetti junction  ;D ;D hopefully will get this all tided up into a propper loom tomorrow but all works as it should even the hazards although i haven't got an ignition switch yet
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/AAF1E85A-66FC-4F3F-BA11-914405E93FED-5870-00000A6F834E0B76_zps599f8f7a.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/AAF1E85A-66FC-4F3F-BA11-914405E93FED-5870-00000A6F834E0B76_zps599f8f7a.jpg.html)


OH NO put those things away  :o ::) a monkey relaxing with his bud's after a hard days work ;D ;D
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1E3567DE-520B-4890-A49F-32EC050DF439-5870-00000A6F918FBE54_zpsfd0d0dab.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1E3567DE-520B-4890-A49F-32EC050DF439-5870-00000A6F918FBE54_zpsfd0d0dab.jpg.html)

Eek! You've got more of a tan than me though. I stopped wearing shorts when I was about 8.  :P

That's inspired me to wire mine but I have no clue ..  ???

at the point where i need somwhere to mount all these wires 'n' stuff. decided to mount all in the right hand dummy tank so started with a template

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/8F0B7324-2398-43DE-AE69-419793EAAD51-5368-0000093AE73AFB0C_zps1cbc53cb.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/8F0B7324-2398-43DE-AE69-419793EAAD51-5368-0000093AE73AFB0C_zps1cbc53cb.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D2090A5C-9E9D-41A6-83F9-CEB27D7A394A-5381-0000093C07A67D5E_zpsac1e8bf8.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/D2090A5C-9E9D-41A6-83F9-CEB27D7A394A-5381-0000093C07A67D5E_zpsac1e8bf8.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/Untitled_zpsb2ea8b01.png) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/Untitled_zpsb2ea8b01.png.html)

which turned into this.fab'ed by Alan in aluminium
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/E27E25FB-A0C4-4EE0-9815-269B764982B6-6393-00000B66BF6E08C9_zpsea7ae1a1.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/E27E25FB-A0C4-4EE0-9815-269B764982B6-6393-00000B66BF6E08C9_zpsea7ae1a1.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/9A75AFD6-70EC-4C3D-9AEC-2CCB93988F95-6393-00000B66EEEE77D0_zps65bc4822.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/9A75AFD6-70EC-4C3D-9AEC-2CCB93988F95-6393-00000B66EEEE77D0_zps65bc4822.jpg.html)

got it mounted only to discover the coil is buggered,oil leaking from where the coil lead plugs in,unusual???

so moved on to mudguard brackets

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/05E9F7CB-94A2-43F2-A60A-729F1B21C297-6393-00000B66CD246100_zpsd6c5898d.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/05E9F7CB-94A2-43F2-A60A-729F1B21C297-6393-00000B66CD246100_zpsd6c5898d.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/671B2456-6C4D-4B7C-9E14-F248AEE8CD56-6393-00000B66D43B3915_zps5e8c8bc7.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/671B2456-6C4D-4B7C-9E14-F248AEE8CD56-6393-00000B66D43B3915_zps5e8c8bc7.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/6C0635DE-C565-4473-8360-526CBB6EA564-6393-00000B66DB04C7D9_zps991bf66f.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/6C0635DE-C565-4473-8360-526CBB6EA564-6393-00000B66DB04C7D9_zps991bf66f.jpg.html)

mounting bolts welded in to keep the top clean
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/6183B47E-7F65-48B5-BE54-7133A020978E-6393-00000B66E7958250_zpse1c288f0.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/6183B47E-7F65-48B5-BE54-7133A020978E-6393-00000B66E7958250_zpse1c288f0.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1E91BC2B-473F-4B9D-A5AD-5ECD8B11DDCF-6393-00000B67056B9B06_zps756f26fe.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1E91BC2B-473F-4B9D-A5AD-5ECD8B11DDCF-6393-00000B67056B9B06_zps756f26fe.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/0BFCA0EF-59B6-4292-B6D9-0412C76EF4D1-6393-00000B670C47223F_zpsa4a367ad.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/0BFCA0EF-59B6-4292-B6D9-0412C76EF4D1-6393-00000B670C47223F_zpsa4a367ad.jpg.html)

lights mounted front and rear
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/7C102F50-34BA-4961-9AFA-F06F14C0626A-6393-00000B671B3D6C43_zpsa90d5894.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/7C102F50-34BA-4961-9AFA-F06F14C0626A-6393-00000B671B3D6C43_zpsa90d5894.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1D82CB68-1898-4154-ABFD-38B59E1D8C80-6393-00000B66F684AB6A_zps2e381bc7.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1D82CB68-1898-4154-ABFD-38B59E1D8C80-6393-00000B66F684AB6A_zps2e381bc7.jpg.html)

just do 1 circuit at a time  and you'll soon get there,any question just ask and if all else fail's
i'm only an hour and a half away

As scannerzer says it's not as difficult as it looks.
Take it one lead at a time. Colour coding or labels at each end is a good idea as is making the leads a bit too long( they can always be shortened later)
My front to rear loom is trailer cable in its cover and most of the rest is made from leads stripped out of the cover and re bundled as required in heat shrink. This gives you seven different colours without having to buy lots of reels.

Yep i agree  with ON trailer cable is the way to go and if you use the colours as you would on a trailer it will
always make sense if you have a fault down the line

5 or 7 core? ???

The trikes looking good, I want that front mudguard ;D

7 is what i've used i tried to get 4 core but no one locally stock's it anymore, but 7 leaves you room for expansion,extra lights etc or a spare wire should you ever get a break in a wire you can't trace


Thanks Merv,if i don't use it i'll let you know ;)

got a few hours with the trike today so the wiring continues

got these waterproof connectors from ebay to allow easy removal of some of the parts like mudguards and hand controls
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1280AE3E-96B1-4FFB-83B3-37A3734A7E6F-7596-00000D345837F694_zpsdb90dec9.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1280AE3E-96B1-4FFB-83B3-37A3734A7E6F-7596-00000D345837F694_zpsdb90dec9.jpg.html)

ran the wiring through the mudgaurd brackets to the front and rear lamps for both protection and tidyness
the holes will get grommets after painting
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1ACBB067-CD7E-474A-95EB-9B8ED7E55F3A-7596-00000D3465192300_zps0dc95e8f.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1ACBB067-CD7E-474A-95EB-9B8ED7E55F3A-7596-00000D3465192300_zps0dc95e8f.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/EFC5CD8E-F93D-445C-9748-820871B17548-7596-00000D346E85375F_zps1d59b530.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/EFC5CD8E-F93D-445C-9748-820871B17548-7596-00000D346E85375F_zps1d59b530.jpg.html)

never used these type of connector before thay are tyco amp superseal 1.5 so here goes
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/235D33B1-2D9F-4400-9D63-F556D2AE9CAE-7596-00000D347B4799BA_zps5b154c6f.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/235D33B1-2D9F-4400-9D63-F556D2AE9CAE-7596-00000D347B4799BA_zps5b154c6f.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/95B9EFB2-7F1A-4FF7-9789-2C0795A20442-7596-00000D34866055D8_zps69319657.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/95B9EFB2-7F1A-4FF7-9789-2C0795A20442-7596-00000D34866055D8_zps69319657.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/67BF70C4-BFE1-4C40-8632-B7B4A77546C8-7596-00000D3492CE901A_zpsff5484b6.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/67BF70C4-BFE1-4C40-8632-B7B4A77546C8-7596-00000D3492CE901A_zpsff5484b6.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D577B3B2-D46F-45CE-B8F4-6E60095ADF32-7596-00000D34ABD3DBD1_zpsbade627c.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/D577B3B2-D46F-45CE-B8F4-6E60095ADF32-7596-00000D34ABD3DBD1_zpsbade627c.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/507D6470-D8DF-400E-AD7F-0D505D55CD5B-7596-00000D34B5416D9F_zpse803cf17.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/507D6470-D8DF-400E-AD7F-0D505D55CD5B-7596-00000D34B5416D9F_zpse803cf17.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/A1FC6E0A-9B89-422F-B0BD-8182E0D9044B-7596-00000D34BF5CADB3_zps916c1970.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/A1FC6E0A-9B89-422F-B0BD-8182E0D9044B-7596-00000D34BF5CADB3_zps916c1970.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/91C7C3B6-B2F0-4D15-8615-3CD1007C6D92-7596-00000D34C7C977C4_zps6e760927.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/91C7C3B6-B2F0-4D15-8615-3CD1007C6D92-7596-00000D34C7C977C4_zps6e760927.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/E49B93D3-73FA-4A7B-B419-4A48B653A821-7596-00000D34D0197229_zps8f4f80af.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/E49B93D3-73FA-4A7B-B419-4A48B653A821-7596-00000D34D0197229_zps8f4f80af.jpg.html)

spot the mistake (s) >:( >:(

boy was i cross when i realized that i had forgot to include the wiring for the front side marker in these connections,good job the are reuseable ;)

having refitted the plug with all the wires this time checked continunity from the plug to the ends where the lights connect
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/E49B93D3-73FA-4A7B-B419-4A48B653A821-7596-00000D34D0197229_zps8f4f80af.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/E49B93D3-73FA-4A7B-B419-4A48B653A821-7596-00000D34D0197229_zps8f4f80af.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/E22193F1-3BDF-4538-8566-ED37AD4B3D44-7596-00000D34D6BC4645_zps5952a62e.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/E22193F1-3BDF-4538-8566-ED37AD4B3D44-7596-00000D34D6BC4645_zps5952a62e.jpg.html)

with the brackets fitted
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/25A0C6EE-2912-4E28-92E8-FFC22A0774BE-7596-00000D34DEA349CC_zps11d72b7e.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/25A0C6EE-2912-4E28-92E8-FFC22A0774BE-7596-00000D34DEA349CC_zps11d72b7e.jpg.html)

and now the other side of the plug on the frame
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/10B3FB48-D782-4CEB-BA0B-FD6178770541-7596-00000D34EC91A2E7_zps59d080e3.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/10B3FB48-D782-4CEB-BA0B-FD6178770541-7596-00000D34EC91A2E7_zps59d080e3.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/DF0CD478-8983-4E51-977F-B4A7FE3690D2-7596-00000D34F4420434_zps03bfb395.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/DF0CD478-8983-4E51-977F-B4A7FE3690D2-7596-00000D34F4420434_zps03bfb395.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/3BE1588B-93ED-47C5-A900-63E7D24AFB3C-7596-00000D34FFB529DF_zps370441e2.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/3BE1588B-93ED-47C5-A900-63E7D24AFB3C-7596-00000D34FFB529DF_zps370441e2.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/B1442965-2C9E-4307-A21E-54D4DB2840FF-7596-00000D3505EDE4FE_zps4bc7486d.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/B1442965-2C9E-4307-A21E-54D4DB2840FF-7596-00000D3505EDE4FE_zps4bc7486d.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/09B613D6-F316-40B4-8671-0FEDBB7FDD7E-7596-00000D350CE262C1_zps7ba0e502.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/09B613D6-F316-40B4-8671-0FEDBB7FDD7E-7596-00000D350CE262C1_zps7ba0e502.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/BB250E00-99AE-4622-A2D8-773151C747F6-7596-00000D35138EC677_zps68a67113.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/BB250E00-99AE-4622-A2D8-773151C747F6-7596-00000D35138EC677_zps68a67113.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1A6486C1-4C4C-4850-A2E0-BD222D6616E5-7596-00000D351ADA98B5_zps0972611e.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1A6486C1-4C4C-4850-A2E0-BD222D6616E5-7596-00000D351ADA98B5_zps0972611e.jpg.html)

the extra plug is for the numberplate light and rear fog lamp

the other mistake? well i'm not sure if it is, but for the rest of the connectors i clamped the little yellow gaskets on each wire with the cable strain relief, not sure which is correct ???

and these arrived today so might get the brakes plumbed up next week

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/556B787A-E04E-47C6-9C90-360BC3A76CF8-7596-00000D34E5615634_zps77a4b76d.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/556B787A-E04E-47C6-9C90-360BC3A76CF8-7596-00000D34E5615634_zps77a4b76d.jpg.html)

 ;D ;D ;D

My, you have been a busy bunny haven't you. Very tidy.

at last the wiring is finished (i think/hope)

not quite as neet as i would have liked but i'll have a little tidy at final assembly

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D7FCCCE3-5C8F-4974-B1AF-CF0BA560AA21-7633-00000E2840BC6227_zps6d06eda0.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/D7FCCCE3-5C8F-4974-B1AF-CF0BA560AA21-7633-00000E2840BC6227_zps6d06eda0.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/EEB79E1B-EE82-46E5-B0F9-1F8CF9B5B8BC-7633-00000E28587AED8B_zpsedd874a2.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/EEB79E1B-EE82-46E5-B0F9-1F8CF9B5B8BC-7633-00000E28587AED8B_zpsedd874a2.jpg.html)

Fantastic  ;D

to finish the wiring completely i need to fit the dash so...

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/82F072F0-05E1-4A0F-8AEC-1E4E0DB17DE1-8094-00000EF3A5B949FA_zpscde4726a.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/82F072F0-05E1-4A0F-8AEC-1E4E0DB17DE1-8094-00000EF3A5B949FA_zpscde4726a.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/617CBEB6-935B-490D-BA4F-A41C1CE2A2B0-8094-00000EF3B161D63E_zpsaaa9186b.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/617CBEB6-935B-490D-BA4F-A41C1CE2A2B0-8094-00000EF3B161D63E_zpsaaa9186b.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/AA9D1C50-36F4-4180-9258-DA076DA42C51-8094-00000EF3C426B93A_zps52aadef0.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/AA9D1C50-36F4-4180-9258-DA076DA42C51-8094-00000EF3C426B93A_zps52aadef0.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/E431D986-7DDB-4CD9-A410-874C5AD7D780-8094-00000EF3CEFFD060_zpsa3a35f97.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/E431D986-7DDB-4CD9-A410-874C5AD7D780-8094-00000EF3CEFFD060_zpsa3a35f97.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/2EBE695D-7E98-496A-911D-4AFBECBC73C7-8094-00000EF3D92356AD_zpsb1e5dcaf.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/2EBE695D-7E98-496A-911D-4AFBECBC73C7-8094-00000EF3D92356AD_zpsb1e5dcaf.jpg.html)

need to trim the tanks to let the clocks down but it's getting there,just thought i'd reuse the original
clocks as i had em and they sort of fit the style of the dash... i think :)

made a towing dolly yesterday evening as the trike has to go to have an alloy petrol tank made

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/4F99E5FA-2517-41AD-8531-717235E88BF3-8597-000010175C09963B_zpscab544b9.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/4F99E5FA-2517-41AD-8531-717235E88BF3-8597-000010175C09963B_zpscab544b9.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1B6E0ECC-B9E5-40C1-846E-40CCAC258AFB-8597-0000101766AAC150_zps88a5f145.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1B6E0ECC-B9E5-40C1-846E-40CCAC258AFB-8597-0000101766AAC150_zps88a5f145.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/2778D231-BA07-4808-893D-32A6CC83BF08-8597-0000101771E68E66_zpse07b8c0b.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/2778D231-BA07-4808-893D-32A6CC83BF08-8597-0000101771E68E66_zpse07b8c0b.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/58D4BE2D-DB33-4DCF-92CB-C9E4B394957E-8597-000010177BBF8B41_zpse384c0a7.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/58D4BE2D-DB33-4DCF-92CB-C9E4B394957E-8597-000010177BBF8B41_zpse384c0a7.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1B00331B-C30F-4D86-AA56-C88CA52AC992-8597-000010179BE2AE9B_zpsd76589f8.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1B00331B-C30F-4D86-AA56-C88CA52AC992-8597-000010179BE2AE9B_zpsd76589f8.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/DA8A6C5D-794A-4FC9-8B0F-962181A45340-8597-00001017B3E32041_zpsbeab1be8.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/DA8A6C5D-794A-4FC9-8B0F-962181A45340-8597-00001017B3E32041_zpsbeab1be8.jpg.html)

and in use for a quick trial
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hope the video work's havn't did that before!

attached to the frame so no double articulation the only disadvantage is you have to lift it on to the car your towing it with but at the minute i have no problem doing that

mmm video didn't work mmm ??? ???

i'll try this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4z3HmIT4Jk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4z3HmIT4Jk)

yeeeeeeha it worked

Yes it works and a good job done

thanks Merv i think it will do the job, just need to replace the bolt with a steel pin and it should be good to go

this as come on leaps and bound since i last took a look..... good work and well done

thanks guys :)

well on to the brakes,do you wish you'd never started something,fecking brake fluid fecking everywhere from every ,joint brake end, EVERYWHERE >:( ???

does anyone know if copper/nickle alloy is harder to get sealed than just plain copper? Alan who's helping me is a mechanic and has a good flairing tool so that's not the problem but we had to tightin every joint to
almost striping point to get the leaks to stop but all sorted now.

Piped for split brakeing 2 rear one front,need to finish the pedal and get some new front pads and then we can test it out.

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/0F7871A7-B269-49AD-A93E-7EB5046097B2-8597-00001017EC8066F9_zpsbbf97ba4.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/0F7871A7-B269-49AD-A93E-7EB5046097B2-8597-00001017EC8066F9_zpsbbf97ba4.jpg.html)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/03E81975-0E79-419D-93BE-227643ED4AB8-9097-0000111D2ACD0BB0_zps4c87c2fe.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/03E81975-0E79-419D-93BE-227643ED4AB8-9097-0000111D2ACD0BB0_zps4c87c2fe.jpg.html)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/23A81AE1-A54E-4A05-8505-2433E5DC5B40-8597-00001017FE77E12E_zps0376ec1a.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/23A81AE1-A54E-4A05-8505-2433E5DC5B40-8597-00001017FE77E12E_zps0376ec1a.jpg.html)

how good should the brakes be with this setup ? and at least we will know we are ball park.

front end dives slightly and rears lock if you stand on the pedal with about 1 1/2 inches of travel does this sound about right,I've never even riden a trike so don't know what to expect ::) ::)

thanks eddie

pedals finished

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/C7CBAB42-DC1F-4BFD-876E-3D462C462A40-9692-000011A7DB240B8F_zpse19cdecc.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/C7CBAB42-DC1F-4BFD-876E-3D462C462A40-9692-000011A7DB240B8F_zpse19cdecc.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/53445505-9CEB-427E-8591-76DB8A689F85-9692-000011A7E5CBB9D1_zps20eb67d2.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/53445505-9CEB-427E-8591-76DB8A689F85-9692-000011A7E5CBB9D1_zps20eb67d2.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/8F98E91A-C935-4C8B-A915-03F1D795DA5C-9692-000011A7EFC8F530_zpsbc425d83.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/8F98E91A-C935-4C8B-A915-03F1D795DA5C-9692-000011A7EFC8F530_zpsbc425d83.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/FB52187B-B9CA-4776-9E8C-16D3A8C254AB-9692-000011A7FF71B1C5_zps7e9f6cb2.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/FB52187B-B9CA-4776-9E8C-16D3A8C254AB-9692-000011A7FF71B1C5_zps7e9f6cb2.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/A3BE1A4A-2D81-4BFB-9016-86ADE7B9E7E4-9692-000011A80763567D_zps030ce166.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/A3BE1A4A-2D81-4BFB-9016-86ADE7B9E7E4-9692-000011A80763567D_zps030ce166.jpg.html)

and steering lock

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/E76F4203-CD29-48D4-A497-A6EF14517E53-9692-000011A80EA39F0C_zpscc79d43f.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/E76F4203-CD29-48D4-A497-A6EF14517E53-9692-000011A80EA39F0C_zpscc79d43f.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/BC725F88-33F8-4976-8B6D-EAC45E7B8F4A-9692-000011A816A78152_zps81c2f655.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/BC725F88-33F8-4976-8B6D-EAC45E7B8F4A-9692-000011A816A78152_zps81c2f655.jpg.html)

this will also act as a steering stop

Nice progress there.
Kunifer pipe is slightly more ridged than plain copper but I have never had any problems. Did you lubricate the flaring dies?
You definitely want the backs to lock before the front  ;D (locking up the front on a busy, wet roundabout is NOT fun) Should be able to do so with a hard push from the seated position. Until you get it on the road and the brakes all bed in it's difficult to tell how they will behave.

Thanks ON you have just answered several of my questions.yes dies were lub'ed ok but they just seem to need that little extra nip up to stop leak's probably accounted for by the extra hardness and now with the pedals finished the brakes feel much better but as you say need bedding in.

If all else fails I'll put an adjustable regulator on the back bone where the copper meets the braided hose if front end locking happens

doesn't take long to make it look like 6 months age !

an hour and a half and it's back in bits

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/A78ADA92-91AF-4434-A9CD-32DD61389DB3-9738-000011CA048D32B7_zps05c9cd2a.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/A78ADA92-91AF-4434-A9CD-32DD61389DB3-9738-000011CA048D32B7_zps05c9cd2a.jpg.html)

then made some nice gussets....ooooer

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/CBB86CB4-F8FE-4E5B-AE91-304B6ED3D908-9738-000011C693F39A7C_zps321ac0af.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/CBB86CB4-F8FE-4E5B-AE91-304B6ED3D908-9738-000011C693F39A7C_zps321ac0af.jpg.html)

and welded em in

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/65AEE84A-43F2-4BFF-93A5-E930081F61F7-9738-000011C69E04BAE5_zpse4c0d788.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/65AEE84A-43F2-4BFF-93A5-E930081F61F7-9738-000011C69E04BAE5_zpse4c0d788.jpg.html)
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Like the tow bar, hope that single mount under front of engine is man enough as it looks to be taking all the weight.

Nice gussets. I like radiuses on gussets

the weight is still on the front wheel the mount is only securing the back of the bar to the frame...i think ???

marked and drilled the holes in the bottom yoke for the steering lock,it can be locked stright ahead or to the left the lines are the position for the steering stops with the punch marks just visable

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/69F17D2A-930C-4D6B-9FA2-A890AC1ACF47-10300-000013038BCA4ED6_zpse654fa3a.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/69F17D2A-930C-4D6B-9FA2-A890AC1ACF47-10300-000013038BCA4ED6_zpse654fa3a.jpg.html)

steering stop holes drilled
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/EDB008BC-5691-495E-9366-EF300653B2A1-10300-0000130394945BAA_zps57e2c6b6.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/EDB008BC-5691-495E-9366-EF300653B2A1-10300-0000130394945BAA_zps57e2c6b6.jpg.html)

after a little bit of a polish up with the steering stop bolts and lock fitted
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/27D12120-30B8-4DA3-BFD6-26D8443E197F-10300-000013039EE20DAD_zps2ca63b53.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/27D12120-30B8-4DA3-BFD6-26D8443E197F-10300-000013039EE20DAD_zps2ca63b53.jpg.html)

Tidy. Where did you get the steering lock from?

ebay,its from a honda c90 as per Olds idea and it works well

Very neat.
PM sent.

Very neat ideal, I'm going to nick it if you don't mind

Don't mind at all I sorta nicked it from ON ;D

If youre sure. But I'd have a good think about it though. Think "pivot point".

I've thought and looked at it today but what am i missing, can you explain what your seeing incase I've made a serious booboo  ::) ???

anyway was off work today as i have to cover holidays at work this weekend  :( so did a bit of body work :D

started with cardboard templates
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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/3FF26783-AA5A-4943-97CB-428455B0E542-10769-00001375CFD4890E_zpsd3f852c8.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/3FF26783-AA5A-4943-97CB-428455B0E542-10769-00001375CFD4890E_zpsd3f852c8.jpg.html)

transfared to tin
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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/15110058-D26F-47CA-ACB5-690F30F77B9B-10769-000013760F5D4753_zps1e47fd3c.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/15110058-D26F-47CA-ACB5-690F30F77B9B-10769-000013760F5D4753_zps1e47fd3c.jpg.html)

and bent to shape
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D2BCB4FB-D6A6-4A9E-AE78-1DB3903856CD-10769-000013763736C4DB_zpsf86971f7.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/D2BCB4FB-D6A6-4A9E-AE78-1DB3903856CD-10769-000013763736C4DB_zpsf86971f7.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/0C7B5C87-68BD-4B6A-B233-D953B87400CC-10769-000013764CEB0FD9_zpsfae29d15.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/0C7B5C87-68BD-4B6A-B233-D953B87400CC-10769-000013764CEB0FD9_zpsfae29d15.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/8E852735-0080-4FBF-8F52-CF1A74442AA7-10769-000013766387D22A_zpsbbdfccbf.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/8E852735-0080-4FBF-8F52-CF1A74442AA7-10769-000013766387D22A_zpsbbdfccbf.jpg.html)
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.
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the rh panel will hold the hazard switch and fog lamp switch,the lh the ignition switch

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switch mounts
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not much room but it fits.....just
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doesn't look like it but that took me all day  :o

Looks good to me. Its funny the "little" jobs can take the longest. I have put my ignition under the front right of the seat, and have been puzzling where to fit the fog and hazard. DOH! on the other side! Gonna steal that idea from you - thanks for the inspiration :)

PM sent  :)

no pm recieved Pete maybe it takes a while to come through,i'll let you know it it arrive's or can you send it again

thanks eddie


not a problem Andy work away :)

reply sent

I've been thinking about your towing dolly. I think there will be very strong forces where it joins to the frame (as Pete said). Here is how I visualise it:

With the frame bolted to the dolly, you could visualise that as a single unit, a bit like a long plank of wood. Now imagine where the engine is positioned, right in the middle of the plank.

Imagine if you put both ends of the plank up on a stand. All the weight is now in the middle of the plank.

If you bounce one end of the plank (rear wheels on trike, or tow hitch going up and down) the centre of the plank with the engine on it will try to bounce more due to the leverage involved.

Your joint between the dolly and the frame is pretty much at that point of maximum bounce.

The front forks and wheel make a bridge from the front of the engine up the plank to near the towing hitch. That will stiffen the plank a bit over that section, but its effect will be negligible.

What it will do is add a pivot to multiply the downward force at the joint.

I'm sure it can work, just needs to be a beefy connection, maybe spread the load over 3 or 4 points of contact?

Of course I could be talking complete bo***cks :)

yeh I'll have to do some figureing on this on this one Andy,Pete has similar concerns

perhaps if it hooked under the cross member

I would think over chewie, as the main deflection on the joint will be downwards wont it?

I'm still thinking about this, and i get your explaination with the plank but if we relaite it to a trailer with a single 2"box draw bar and accepting that it would have some form of springs on the wheels,that draw bar would be welded to the trailer in a similar fashion, if we sat an engine right at the front infront of the wheels would we expect the draw bar to bend or brake the weld?

thats what we thought when we built it and i'm still trying to get it straight in my head if we were right so still some thinking to do ???

I take your point. Maybe you need to set it up and have a "monkey jump party" where we all come over and bounce on it :):):):):)

I like that idea ,when are y'all free ;D ;D

As you say the trailer would have suspension, but the trike's a hardtail isn't it?  That's going to magnify every bump.

had a problem with the plate the brake idler was pivoted on in that it was twisting under braking
which left the pedal spongy,it had quite a bend in it.

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so an upgrade was called for, 6mm plate instead of 3 and a gusset

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will this be strong enough or should i try and support the other end of the bolt as well

Id've thought if you manage to bend 6mm plate, you've got other problems -or arms like Popeye.

originally it was 3mm plate the replacement is 6mm  ;D

might not be much progress for a while...me welders packed up  :( :( :'(

think it the low voltage transformer,hopefully get it checked over the weekend

Chewie can probably sell you a new one -postage might be a tad expensive though, from Australia.  :P

Lol. Nah had to scrap all mine.
What's yours doing?

not feeding wire although the fan and power light are on I'll put a link to repair's when i jet a chance.

can you measure any volts on the feed motor ?

link to repairs all sorted now in true ham radio style mend it on the run  ;D

http://www.mankymonkeymotors.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13071.0 (http://www.mankymonkeymotors.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13071.0)

back to the brake idlerwelded back in now welder repairs are complete

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thicker mount seems to have sorted the problem no visible flexing now so i'll leave it at that for now and see what happens

not much done this weekend just a number plate bracket made and fitted

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It's all progress though mate.

started to make mount's for the dummy tanks and dash

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/7939454C-5E99-4857-A6A2-46A3BC8BECF3-15283-00001D0BF51A62AE_zps66ece1b3.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/7939454C-5E99-4857-A6A2-46A3BC8BECF3-15283-00001D0BF51A62AE_zps66ece1b3.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/97EE6ED6-4D1D-4FA0-9BBE-1A50818632D3-15589-00001DF4100C1CE9_zps8dd8f747.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/97EE6ED6-4D1D-4FA0-9BBE-1A50818632D3-15589-00001DF4100C1CE9_zps8dd8f747.jpg.html)
the hex bolts will be replaced with stainless button headed ones on final assembly

to mount he back of the dash nearest the tank i did this,hope it work's but won't know until the morning when the fibreglass is hard. i greased the thread to stop the glass from sticking to it
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Fuel guage !!...ahh something I forgot.. Lol

it's just cause i have it Steve,if i were using a bike tank it wouldn't be on mine either

the good news is that fibreglassing the nut to the inside of the tank work a treat so that sorted the back dash mount. now to improve on the front one

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/81527F7D-6C2C-4C89-ABBD-7F5EAB7D4A71-15719-00001E0287E2D19E_zps027fda20.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/81527F7D-6C2C-4C89-ABBD-7F5EAB7D4A71-15719-00001E0287E2D19E_zps027fda20.jpg.html)
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fortunatly I remembered to but bolts through the plates before i welded them on or the whole thing would have been shot  :o :o

surports the dash nicely,mean's i don't have to get any longer bolts and now i can move on to some of the other job's i need to finish before paint

can anyone see anything i've missed as sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees

Certainly looks tidy enough matey.

repainted the sump i got from MM ready for refitting

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oil drained ready for striping
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now all i need is a lift on to the bench with the engine and I can get these swapped over!

That looks like some pretty thick oil.
Except when mounting in the frame (twice), my engine never left  the ground.  Figured if it's already on the garage floor it can't fall much further.

yeh I'd say it's a while since it last had an oil change and your right it can't take much hurt on the floor but changing the sump while it's down there might be a bit hard on the back,in saying that if i cant get a lift with it in the next day or two then i guess i'll be finding out

Can it wait till it's in the frame. Otherwise you risk damaging the 'new' sump.  They are pretty thin and easily dented.

I never thought of doing it that way but it make sense and would let me get on with other things

Do you want me to pop over on saturday to give you a lift with that engine ;D ;D ;D
Did'nt say which saturday
Alan

Sure that would do,I'll have breakfast ready when you get here

Is it a good idea to flush these engines,I know some don't like being flushed

new sump fitted and gearbox back on ready to go back in the frame,also internal's of engine

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I tend to go with the idea that flushing an engine can lead to particles that were safely stuck to internal surfaces floating around the engine, that draining may not totally remove .
Personally, with an old engine that I'm not rebuilding, I would just fill with fresh oil, run it for a while( at least till running temp ), then do an oil and filter change.

think i'll go with that idea ON ,if i get time over the weekend it will be up and running and off to get a petrol tank made

well a little progress has now been made after a 2 month break .WOW time flies

Got the trike back this morning having had a tank made at the local trike shop,well i say local
but it's about 30 miles away.The good news is that the towing dolly performed faultlessly and we made it there and back with no issues what so ever

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the tank is aluminium and is shaped around the axle and prop
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it's mounted using straps and has a fuel sender in it for the gauge and uses an flip up filler cap
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so thats us up to date now time to get a push on,still need a front mudguard and to make a guard for the alternator and then is will be paint time i hope

Anyone see anything I've missed so far please shout !

Tank looks good, very neat place to put it. And the towing dolly didn't explode and end western civilisation after all, good one :)

 ;D ;D ;D no not at all although i did have my fingers crossed  ;)

Looking good scannerzer ;).

Where's your battery going Scannerzer?

thanks Guys ,just need to get my finger out now and get it finished then move on to the next project

ps would you paint or polish the tank?

It goes under the seat Andy,in here

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don't seem to have one with it in place but i'll keep looking

oh found it

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/57DFC8C5-6825-4F94-B0AB-832D61FABF65-2542-000003D75136091E_zps54828f87.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/57DFC8C5-6825-4F94-B0AB-832D61FABF65-2542-000003D75136091E_zps54828f87.jpg.html)

Is there 2 outlets for fuel? or is the front of the tank flat at the bottom to allow it to run to the outlet, from the pic it looks like an inverted U shape.
Looking at a "professional trike builders" welding makes our welding look good Ed, lol.
Get the engine running now, and get a you tube video of it moving so I can see my Frankenstein's monster alive

Very neat place to fit the tank :)


Polishing will accentuate any ripples, dings or poor welding.  Where it is situated will also make keeping it polished difficult.


A point to remember for MSVA, there should be no fuel pipe joins, unions or fittings above the exhaust.

wasn't sure if i'd get it up and running now or leave it til after paint


the tunnel doesn't run all the way foward leaving a flat section at thr front,not a great photo but you get the idea
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I know most people don't do this but..... I'm going to complete mine before painting (other than primer), down to the last bolt union etc. Once I'm completely happy i've finished with tabs, fixings brackets etc then I'll strip it and paint. It would be a shame to paint then find you have missed out an important bracket or clip !

There's many ways to get there, but there's only one 'right' way to do it, and that's it!................. :P :P :P :P :P..Morrag

In an ideal world the only thing I'd leave till after paint is wiring, but I have to own up to painting all the tin ware including the pickup bed early due to good weather and having to do it outside.

scannerzer nice work, i,d paint the tank, as mentioned would be hard to keep polished, paint and forget about it.
like andyrenneson i plan to put mine through the test and register it before painting incase i miss something or i need to change the vin number.

Think I'll paint it before the test. First impressions and all that...

my original plan was to test first but now I'm getting impatient  ::)

the wiring's done i just need to set it back on put some petrol in it and we're good to go so i could apply for test anytime and maybe get it on the road sooner rather than later....decisions decisions

any guideline's on how much of the alternator pully and belt needs to be covered to count as safe?

Nope. Think it's down to the examiner. If they think it's dangerous it might fail.
I only guarded the belt and fan at the alternator. The radiator and pump mean that access to the rest of the belt is difficult
 

thats a nice idea ON,still let's air into the alternator

I've gone for a more basic approach

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/5C25E5B2-0DF0-4EC5-9E53-D4AC2E1DA970-2840-000005BA8056B893_zps94eff01b.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/5C25E5B2-0DF0-4EC5-9E53-D4AC2E1DA970-2840-000005BA8056B893_zps94eff01b.jpg.html)

all cleaned up just need to add a couple of mounting tabs and hopefully it will do the job!

and so

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/44F21806-2E41-49FD-AF08-98EA2D6817CE-2906-000005C75F85DCFE_zps6fecedc1.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/44F21806-2E41-49FD-AF08-98EA2D6817CE-2906-000005C75F85DCFE_zps6fecedc1.jpg.html)
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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/98E03C7E-962C-43A2-AAE5-09F0FFE21B49-2906-000005C85ED26B88_zps07753431.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/98E03C7E-962C-43A2-AAE5-09F0FFE21B49-2906-000005C85ED26B88_zps07753431.jpg.html)
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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/2869F6B9-FE9B-40E6-B9E8-D28E7B1F8F90-2906-000005C87AB62C73_zpsa24de7b7.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/2869F6B9-FE9B-40E6-B9E8-D28E7B1F8F90-2906-000005C87AB62C73_zpsa24de7b7.jpg.html)

now just need to make a bottom mount,took all night to do this one!

question : should i drill holes in the front of this to let air into the fan on the alternator or will it get enough from the open side  ???

Looking good.

The fan is centrifugal. This means that it is sucking air through the alternator from the rear. Best thing would be to put holes around the outside and not the front if you are worried about it.

Will it bounce about a little or you putting another mount on? I guess it'll save your footwear :)

Yeh still have to make a bottom mount

nice job scannerzer, i'll need to be makeing one of those soon.

thanks Twisted,it could be more elaborate but as long as it get through the test it can be changed later

got the bottom mount finished

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/F533A7B5-B934-4EBB-B152-B6C8DF997C5B-1497-000002EEA4536D82_zpsf2e36eb3.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/F533A7B5-B934-4EBB-B152-B6C8DF997C5B-1497-000002EEA4536D82_zpsf2e36eb3.jpg.html)
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Another job off the list then  :)

yep just to decide if i may ever want a pillion seat as now would be the time to weld on foot peg mounts,same for tow bar and then i think thats it,maybe but some fuel in the tank ant wire up the coil
just to make sure it goes then it's of to paint!

belt guard fitted
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/60345F5E-81B1-4D47-9078-6739E926DACD-1497-00000300F7EEB820_zps3c3a3f99.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/60345F5E-81B1-4D47-9078-6739E926DACD-1497-00000300F7EEB820_zps3c3a3f99.jpg.html)

paint now your talking

yep think i can't put it of much longer !

Always a hard decision. I spent ages trying to work out if I'd forgotten anything that needed welding on. Things like number plate mounts are easy to forget.
Hope the engine test run goes OK.

that is my worry at the minute ON the only things i can think of are rear foot rest mounts in case i ever fit a pillion seat and a tow bar bracket again in case i need it in the future ,i have plans for neither now but you never know  :-\

I forgot earthing points and tabs for wiring on my frame jus sayin :)

Those are sorted already as I've done the loom already so no worries on that one

can anyone confirm wether or not it's a good idea to paint 2k or waterbased over cellulose primer

You can put any paint on cellulose,But don't put cellulose on any other paint.
Simples.

cheers Hunter

well it been a while ,lots going on personally and not much time for working in the shed but this last few days i've decided to get a push on and paint the thing  ::)

as the shed is large i can't heat it effectively so got an old gazebo which was damaged and made repairs to it.

my idea is to put it up in a corner of the shed and put the sides on ,providing me with a 10x10 spray booth of a sort,hopfully easier to heat and maybe next weekend start painting woohoo

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/35AEE12A-5523-43D7-AAD5-70B0B1C48366_zpszrndmgoj.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/35AEE12A-5523-43D7-AAD5-70B0B1C48366_zpszrndmgoj.jpg.html)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/F0123319-B34E-4B23-828D-4878022F5E29_zps3nnbjash.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/F0123319-B34E-4B23-828D-4878022F5E29_zps3nnbjash.jpg.html)
damage and jig to hold for welding

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/3614F2BE-EFBF-4A66-9374-A23342C09D9F_zps0bdf9xo9.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/3614F2BE-EFBF-4A66-9374-A23342C09D9F_zps0bdf9xo9.jpg.html)
used u channel to repair and strenghten the damaged bit



 the roof stays up again and the trike fit's ,so what do you think of my idea for a gazebo booth,will it do the job ?

THATS NOT A SHED !!!  its a bloody aircraft hanger  ;D ;D ;D ;D  Good idea with the gazebo, will also help keep the dust off the fresh paint.

Good God :o Wish my 'shed' looked like that. :)
The gazebo is a great idea. Just don't asphyxiate yourself while spraying inside it.

Lol yeh good size looks a bit industrial beside a small bungalow but you can never have too much space! Bought a twin filter mask to help with the asphyxiation problem not brilliant but better than nothing. I'll paint the small bits first and see how I get on

Is that actually beside your house?! I assumed it was where you worked!

 ;D i work in a motorfactor and yep behind the house took me years to save up to build it before that i used  an old lorry body for a shed so it was a bit of a step up

I'm impressed! Why's it so tall?

well i was working for a local car dealer in my spare time and he had a recovery lorry which was always being upgraded with extra lights etc but had to be done outside as he didn't have a big enough shed so i built one it would fit in....but now i don't work there and the shed never even saw his lorry typical !

what i would now like to do is put a loft in it at least for 1 link which i then could put all the junk that gets gathered up in to save me floor space...time to start saving again :)

A mezzanine floor -just what I was thinking.

my new workshop/shed is going to end up costing around 6k  :o :o and i bet   its less the one 6th of the size  :o :o :o :o

it's not cheap putting up a shed, i need to get it plastered as damp is seaping through the block and i'm getting quoted silly money and there was me thinking with the construction downturn someone would be glad of a few quid on the sly ::)

well it's finished what do you think?

put in a few lights to help with shadows

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/15708ACD-6CF2-48A7-8B04-5209C781C64F_zpsncvusrzr.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/15708ACD-6CF2-48A7-8B04-5209C781C64F_zpsncvusrzr.jpg.html)

and no the trike's not finished just the booth/gazebo  ;D

Looking good :)

So you have a large work space in a large workspace I'm jealous lol

When can I move in?

Hope yer gonna move my tool box outta the overspray area lol
 ;D ;D ;D

Thanks Guys

Alan do you not think it would look good with a blue haze over it  ;D

Purple Haze mah mannnnnnn.  :P

 ;D ;D ;D

A convector heater and a fan heater don't do much to raise the temp, :( time for a rethink

2 men just over a year to build, 1 man 2 hours to strip to this !

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/C61BA586-BCF7-401E-AA23-B70DED82408F_zpseyol5sns.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/C61BA586-BCF7-401E-AA23-B70DED82408F_zpseyol5sns.jpg.html)

holy crap what have i done  :o well it had to happen sometime,will it ever go back together,well only time will tell .time to get me a chassis number and do some painting then miva here we come

stay tuned for the next thrilling installment

It's easy. Just follow the step by step instruction booklet -what d'ya mean, there isn't one?!

mr haynes says re-assembly is reverse of strip down  :D :D :D

Just more swearing

You've broke it.

kinda thinking that myself ;D

Does this mean that the skin on the frame will jump back on my knuckles  ;D ;D ;D
Get a move on, I'll want to borrow it in July when I'm home from Oz

easter is the aim so you should be good ! but that might depend on mr miva

well made a start on the painting ish

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/C5E5A0EC-618D-46A0-BAEF-3C4A6B3788FB_zpscnujxm2n.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/C5E5A0EC-618D-46A0-BAEF-3C4A6B3788FB_zpscnujxm2n.jpg.html)
a hansom fellow eh  ::)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/FC72BDBE-8F04-4093-9E4A-4665A04CE966_zps8j8q0rvl.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/FC72BDBE-8F04-4093-9E4A-4665A04CE966_zps8j8q0rvl.jpg.html)
hope this is warm enough,with 2 heaters on i can get about 16,it's 10 without

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just did a little etch priming to get a feel for things

Think we are due for a short spell of warmer weather. Make the most of it. :)

lower the roof level on your temporary booth will leave less area for heat to rise, also can you close the open sides down to table height to retain heat, you can duck under to get in and out. Keep heaters outside booth to stop them pulling in spray vapour, possibly cut a hole to fit them, and at table height, no need to heat concrete. Make other sides out of old silo plastic. Don't stay in too long, you might need a fan to extract fumes, down low not to pull heat out. Take the bull by the horns, wet n dry removes mistakes  ;D ;D ;D

well got the front closed in a bit and put on the first coats of primer on the pedals ,gear linkage etc

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D740AD70-DA90-47AB-8F11-9E9D33FF6F31_zpsji7gozsx.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/D740AD70-DA90-47AB-8F11-9E9D33FF6F31_zpsji7gozsx.jpg.html)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/CFBFD783-E3AF-46FA-A5AF-7B1C5C2F6358_zpse2gsfplm.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/CFBFD783-E3AF-46FA-A5AF-7B1C5C2F6358_zpse2gsfplm.jpg.html)

so today we went from this

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to this

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and this

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to this

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/26DACDE2-7EE3-422A-A711-C3049DCAC612_zpsqxfeb1lx.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/26DACDE2-7EE3-422A-A711-C3049DCAC612_zpsqxfeb1lx.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/59F80059-5549-4FDE-AEBA-13D77185F267_zpsdowmfgme.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/59F80059-5549-4FDE-AEBA-13D77185F267_zpsdowmfgme.jpg.html)

Coo! You've been busy.

ooooh its blue and shiney  ;D ;D

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/2F1D8A98-DA06-480C-8384-F66E2F238FA5_zpstj2pkhxy.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/2F1D8A98-DA06-480C-8384-F66E2F238FA5_zpstj2pkhxy.jpg.html)

maybe do the tank and guards tomorrow if all goes to plan

Wow. Nice colour.

I agree with the chief , WOW

Thanks guys i need to get a push on and it's the encouragement I need

Love that colour!

Oooh, that's Purdy.
Think the weather will be ok to get the rest done tomorrow.

Looking good Ed, remember to keep a little paint to touch up the bolt heads after assemby.

Looking very smart mate.

got the painting finished last night or at least i hope i have as there's no paint left and i don't want to buy any more  ::)

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/B3D7A117-A62C-4DFB-AA24-B521BA99B7A7_zpsztd4hpvs.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/B3D7A117-A62C-4DFB-AA24-B521BA99B7A7_zpsztd4hpvs.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/1B9C7520-3C02-49E1-9C8A-365AAECCEBB8_zpspbwg3afc.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/1B9C7520-3C02-49E1-9C8A-365AAECCEBB8_zpspbwg3afc.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/B24BF513-8F1E-4789-847C-0C617D82C7B4_zpssc8gjois.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/B24BF513-8F1E-4789-847C-0C617D82C7B4_zpssc8gjois.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/CE10848E-C613-47DD-8AA8-DDFF7C172C6A_zpstnplcbxa.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/CE10848E-C613-47DD-8AA8-DDFF7C172C6A_zpstnplcbxa.jpg.html)
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i'm really loving this colour
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Like that metallic colour. So, should be finished in a few days then ;)

 i wish but i would like to have it finished by the 23rd ,it's Lesley's birthday and it would sort out her gift  ;D

That looks great, did you use a colour base coat with 2k clear coat over the top?

Excellent colour!

 :D







(same as mine!)

Careful, Lesley might take that literally, then you'd have to build another for yourself.  :D
Nice paint.

yes it's a skoda colour,race blue with a 2k hs clear. i've no experiance with painting so it's just trial and error but i do have a good friend who is inspecting my work and giving me helpfull pointers !

yes the colour is nicer than i could have hoped BG i'm very pleased with it

ON the build was for Lesley ,it would be good if it were to be ready for a special ocassion. i'm hoping to get her on the road so we can potter about, her on the trike and me on the shadow (which is a shaftie  !! and might also go the way of the trike for me)

Missed that bit. Nice  :)

Really nice colour that I like it  :o

Been following this build and a grand trike it is a love that colour.

cheers  :)

apparently the box out of the trike is scrap i got a new housing with the speedo drive and when the boy was fitting it he noticed a ball bearing lying in the bottom of the box so decided to investigate,turns out it was from the 3rd gear selector and the thrust block is damaged and he can't get the plunger out so the hunt is on for either a new thrust block ball spring and plunger or maybe another box.i'm well pi#*ed off as i thought i would be fitting it this weekend  :( ::)

you made a grand job of of it ed, keep up the good work  :)

thanks Pete

now for the only thing not done in my own shed

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chrome powder coat,turned out better than i expected so what do you think ?

just got the tank and yokes done for now

That's nice. Maybe it wouldn't fool anyone that it's real chrome, but I like the "softer" finish.

they said it was brighter before its has a clear coat put over it but i like it ok

Looks sweet mate I like it.

Looks nice mate :)

thanks Guy's. I have a bottle of sealer to put in the tank in case there are any pin holes etc but it's more involved than i thought being 3 seperate processes ,hope to do before the weekend and then try and make a start on assembly

well it's been a busy day got a lot done now if i only had my gearbox back we'd be nearly there

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fitted the electrics box and loom

put sealer in the tank yesterday,Kreem is the name of the product took all day and it bloody stinks but hopfully does the job,hope you can see in this pic
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fitted the tank

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and the back axle

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and the front end which proved a right pain due to the powercoat on the yokes.nice to see it back on its wheels,it's been toooo long


hopefull get brakelines and handbrake cables on through the week and maybe have a gearbox to refit by next weekend!

Great progress mate. Well done.

looking good buddy  ;)

That frame really needs a v6...
Huw

looks superb

thanks everyone it's coming together and i can't wait!


mmm now theres a thought  8)

done a few bits tonight

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hand brake installed and working and brake pipes, m/cylinder and petrol pipe run

Starting to look a bit busier in around the frame, looks good.

finished running the petrol pipe and sprayed the exhaust with some high temp silver

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got me gearbox back today all sorted hopefully,now i can't find the spring clip that holds the collar round the gear stick....typical

dr big 750 is home on holiday so while he was visiting thought it might be time to put him to work.

while fitting the engine to the frame this happened, despite having covered the frame in several layers of cloth
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not good but could have been worse,anyway

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D21583CA-4C40-45A1-8E64-132AF76622F9_zpsz72zdhe2.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/D21583CA-4C40-45A1-8E64-132AF76622F9_zpsz72zdhe2.jpg.html)
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actually have a bit more than this done but forgot to take pics,hopefull get it going tomorrow  ;D

Really coming together now. Looks very professional

Looking good. Just drop a bit of paint on the and no one will be any the wiser  ;).

well with Alan's help over the last couple of day's it's almost done

it' lives, just click on  the first photo

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D2CB899D-B64A-408B-8EAC-632C3522E4F8_zpseb9bezqe.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/D2CB899D-B64A-408B-8EAC-632C3522E4F8_zpseb9bezqe.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/ADAA1DA4-9968-4473-A9BB-09ADEC1475DF_zpsgz7yrxlu.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/ADAA1DA4-9968-4473-A9BB-09ADEC1475DF_zpsgz7yrxlu.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/4E1B8217-E02B-4749-ABE5-F2CB1100B629_zpsmazfofml.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/4E1B8217-E02B-4749-ABE5-F2CB1100B629_zpsmazfofml.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/8F83B53E-118E-4806-A2B5-A9AF123D0E9A_zpsccc8qn4m.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/8F83B53E-118E-4806-A2B5-A9AF123D0E9A_zpsccc8qn4m.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/48F64877-AC21-446A-8737-AD4CB41302E1_zpsitk1wsaf.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/48F64877-AC21-446A-8737-AD4CB41302E1_zpsitk1wsaf.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/646E2934-4F23-4C76-AEE6-51B7D585A8AA_zpsob6wuzsv.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/646E2934-4F23-4C76-AEE6-51B7D585A8AA_zpsob6wuzsv.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/FDC1B4EF-4ECF-4FA1-8FC3-66067D3FB705_zpsodue6awg.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/FDC1B4EF-4ECF-4FA1-8FC3-66067D3FB705_zpsodue6awg.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/08D9ADCE-0AE6-4BFB-82EB-EA8CA9F8CC8B_zpszi4xajrv.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/08D9ADCE-0AE6-4BFB-82EB-EA8CA9F8CC8B_zpszi4xajrv.jpg.html)


sorry not many words but a picture speaks a thousand words so hope you get the idea

Lookin' great guys! Sounds good too.

Sweeeeeeeeet. Well done sir looks and sounds great  ;)

thanks guys i'm well pleased with how it's turned out

That's a nice looking machine, you have created something to be proud of

Looks fantastic. well done indeed :)

Tis rather splendid!

thanks everyone, just a little more done tonight

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D804E22F-062A-40FB-9537-236AF01A9468_zpsr4ymsax8.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/D804E22F-062A-40FB-9537-236AF01A9468_zpsr4ymsax8.jpg.html)


Alan is returning to Australia on thursday so this was his last chance to say goodbye to the trike

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/3A917522-2884-4303-A6F6-EF99F249EA15_zpse4sxeuas.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/3A917522-2884-4303-A6F6-EF99F249EA15_zpse4sxeuas.jpg.html)

all the best Alan and thanks for all your help with the build even flying home to help with the engine  ;D

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,

That's a hell of a house call Dr B. Well done chaps.

Lovely looking trike. You have every right to be pleased, so well done.

Had to see this build through to as near the end as possible, even got a spin round the yard on it, no throttle cable yet but maybe next year, enjoy Eddie and get it finished soon.

this is my first attempt at riding a trike,not too smooth with no throttle cable  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PHJNObNesY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PHJNObNesY)

Video needs subtitled.
Ok select first gear, clutch out, oh is this first, select first, check again if it's first, I'll try to move, hold on need to check I'm in first, have I done that yet? check bike is in first again, yep definitely first and move off, bugger no throttle is a pain  :P ;D ;D ;D

Looks good on the move mate.

lovely trike , well done sir  ;)

yeh all too true


when i could get it to move lol  ;D ;D
cheers Goose

Looks like you were born to ride a trike  :)
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Very nice mate well done.

maybe with a bit more practice  ;)
thank Hunter

well it didn't take long for the gremlins to move in,small puddle of water under the rad and oil on the bottom crossmember under the front crank pully ! I'll try some seal softener but will order a new seal anyway and as for the rad maybe some k seal for the time beening

Minor problems though really mate. You're doing fine.  :)

Nice job, what would custom building be without a few little problems  ::) ;) :)

yep only teething troubles i hope ,it looks like the bottom tank of the rad is cracked so rad weld type product may not work we shall see.

had a go at making cables tonight,bought a throttle cable kit for a peugeot 406 and some solderless nipples and off we go

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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/3CC3A474-2242-46E4-97A0-EC02A00367A8_zps12bqckkc.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/3CC3A474-2242-46E4-97A0-EC02A00367A8_zps12bqckkc.jpg.html)
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(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/F90D1991-B747-48C4-AE50-0C520755C63D_zps9aqjhw5t.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/F90D1991-B747-48C4-AE50-0C520755C63D_zps9aqjhw5t.jpg.html)

all working fine if a little heath robinson,and had to put a return spring on the choke as the cable wouldn't push it off fully

went for a little spin up and down the lane where i live,it was interesting. forgeting to steer being the main problem  ::) :o

A common problem for those used to a bike.  :) Leaning to turn, no longer works does it :D
 Don't worry, first time out I thought- Oh f###, what the hell have I built !

Excellent build;D

that is exactly what crossed my mind and never having riden a trike before it was a shock but it good to know I'm not alone.

thanks Kapri it's turned out better than i could have hoped

the fleet

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Now i can see why Olds built a pick up  ;D had a little trip to the shops today and had to improvise

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now some questions

I've got 14" wheels with 60 profile tyres and out of a junction i need to slip the clutch quit a lot. the clutch is quit sharp with only about 20 mm of travel, how do the rest of you compare to this?

the other question is the brakes which on a normal stop seem to work quite well but i'm a bit wary of how they'd perform in an emergancy stop,i don't even have a hint of lock up front or rear but do have reasonable retardation,again how are ye'all finding it . brakes are standard drum at the rear all new wheel cylinders etc linked to 1 front disk then the other front disc is to the standard front master.

any and all thoughts or comments welcome

cheers lads

eddie

Well, the origional Reliant had virtually the same brake arrangement as you do, but with only a drum at the front, but managed to retard the heavier vehicle with up tp 4 people in it!and whilst complying with MOT requirements, your lighter, single passenger, disc braked front, should, if correctly installed/set-up, have no probs. wouldn't you agree? :) :) :) :)........Morrag

Regarding the wheel diam. you are using, it's very similar to the standard o/a wheel/profile diam. of a Robin etc. so if you are experiencing high levels of clutch slip being required to pull away, particularly with a lighter "plot" that your trike obviously is, then I would be looking at a clutch problem.......Regards, Morrag

Yeh I would but the variable I surpose is the master cylinder I used,a 17 mm Nissan teranno clutch master,near enough what I though would be ok but now I'm no so sure and it's 8 years since I drove the reliant as a car and I can't remember how good they were . These have pasted mot etc ok as well so maybe I'm judging by the standards of modern cars, unfare maybe

Regards the clutch I am thinking of changing the pedal ratio to see if that helps maybe a bit more travel will help, thanks morrag give me something to think about

My 2p...Nice looking trike mate.Is it the early carbon or later ballrace thrust? Im wondering if it is adjusted ok if its slipping.If its the carbon one,make sure it is being held off the cover plate with a spring,or it'll wear out in no time.I spent ages getting my clutch pedal ratio right! I made it very light to operate to avoid ankle ache.If you get stuck I can measure my 'throws' on the linkage?

My trike has standard reliant drum brakes with a girling 5/8ths master cylinder and I can lock the brakes easily.

Thanks Rod ,yes it is the carbon ring type and i have a spring to hold it off but think i may not have explained myself too well . it's not that the clutch is slipping it's that i have to use high revs and slip the clutch to prevent stalling as though the gearing was to high but as the engine ,box and axle all came from the same car this is unlikley so pedal ratio is what i'm looking at. if you could have a measure when you get a chance that would be great,for comparison.

BG i think 5/8  is about 17 which is why i chose what i did but i'm wondering if this is enough to properly pressurise the 2 rear cylinders and 1 front, as morrag said basiclly the same as the car but i dont know what the m/c diameter was or if it had 2 different size sections ,1 for the front and 1 for the rear but at least i know from your experience that my m/c should at least work the rear and maybe run the 2 front discs from the handle bars.

thanks for the input guys it's helping me narrow down what to do

Again, 17mm is near enough to the old 850 Mini master cyl. bore of 0.70" and that serviced 4x7" brakee drums, and I have used that size Mini master cylinder in a similar setup to yours, but prefered keeping rear and front brakes uncoupled and seperate. Worked well for me. So, your 17mm cyl. should be more than adequate.Morrag

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Regarding brake and clutch I would look to your pedal ratios. My clutch pedal ratio is about 2.8:1 (8.5":3") and is a little fierce, so if I ever remake it I would try 3.4 (8.5:2.5)
As for brakes I also have a 5/8" (15.8mm) master operating only the rear cylinders, pedal ratio 5.3:1 (8":1.5") and can lock the rears. Think about 6:1 is considered ideal.
Personally don't like the idea of liked brakes on a trike. In an emergency situation the last thing I want is the front wheel locking up.
Saying that, other folk are quite happy with linked.

Ok I'll measure it this morning.
 re brakes..if you hit the pedal a second time (ie pump up the pressure) does it stop ok then? If so,you may have to fit a residual pressure valve (holds low poundage pressure in the lines) this is cos the m/cyl could be lowest of all the brake parts and you have to pump pressure up hill.First pedal hit isnt enuf to pressurise right to the cylinders.I had excessive pedal travel ,it drove me bonkers bleeding it etc.Then fitted a rpv problem solved.PITA to have to alter lines though!

that's true Morrag ,i did try to work it out at the time i got the cylinder and thought it should work ok


the brake is adjustable as we drilled several holes when building it so that one won't be a problem but i'll measure the current ratios and post before i change them ,the clutch i think i cad drill another hole without removing it from the trike,i need to put a stop on the clutch anyway as with so much available pedal travel it's easy to press it down too far which will damage the clutch



thanks Rod ,no i already have rpv's although i do have a soft pedal,we found the brakes hard to bleed with the cylinders bleeders at the bottom even though i have an air vacuum bleeder and the way we did it was to stand the frame up vertically,not an option now with the engine fitted ! makes me wonder do i still have air trapped somewhere

just measured it ...
The orig drop arm on side of g/box is 145mm c/c,but i extended mine to 160mm c/c
 The pedal pivot is immediately BELOW the footpeg height centre to centre footpeg to pivot= 35mm
 Ive got a footpeg to push my sole onto,not a pad on my pedal,so the pivot point of pedal to footpeg  c/c =155mm
 From the pedal pivot point vertically c/c= 70mm is the take off for the clutch arm.
 I hope you can visualise all that,if needed I'll get a pic later.
 This set up makes for a really light clutch,and a few folks have remarked on this.I wanted it that way cos my left foot suffers from aching generally and also I f the clutch is stiff ,I predicted that as you push your foot down you may tend to lean your body to the left a bit ,therefore you may get  steering 'twitch' as your arms moved a bit.I havent noticed any of this in the miles Ive done.Having run a VERY hard clutch on a modded 100e many yrs ago,I know it gave me back probs to this day tbh..never again!
 

think i can ,i'll make a wee diagram with your measurements  and check against mine ,thanks for that

Yes there could be air in the front lines to the disc(s?).I had this also and fitted bleeds at the top of the lines (headset area).Crazy I know,but have you got the rear cyls wrong way round,ie bleed to bottom? (no not piles !lol) I had this on my rear golf calipers and couldnt get the air out of the calipers.They looked ok but werent! Some folks say to reverse bleed the brakes ie from cyls with a large syringe.I tried it but wouldnt work due to aforementioned calipers upside down.
 

Pic of my pedal

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/Jamesons11/trike3_zps451d6d3d.jpg)

 
 BTW ..where did you put the rpv? I fitted my one just after the master cyl outlet.

thanks for the pic Rod,yes it all makes sense now.my rpvs are about 2" from the m/c.

not to sure how to work this out so measured as follows clutch first then brake

old              pedal         inner lever            opp arm                ratio?
                     7"                 2.5"                    6"                     2.14-1

new                7"                 2"                      6"                     1.71-1

clutch much more progressive with about twice the travel

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/C9AF0B26-FFD5-45B8-83B1-7A7B77C40AD0_zpspzzqanfd.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/C9AF0B26-FFD5-45B8-83B1-7A7B77C40AD0_zpspzzqanfd.jpg.html)
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/F5C0E71C-4898-4453-BE7D-4E21EEDE6590_zpscdpnw0ye.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/F5C0E71C-4898-4453-BE7D-4E21EEDE6590_zpscdpnw0ye.jpg.html)

now
(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/2EF85AAD-0B21-47FF-96A9-8A533DD7C808_zpsicfl3857.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/2EF85AAD-0B21-47FF-96A9-8A533DD7C808_zpsicfl3857.jpg.html)


and brake

old                  pedal              inner                idler                  ratio

                        7"                  1.5"                 2-1                   9.3-1 ?
                        7"                   2"                   2-1                   7-1 ?

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/981F08C9-557E-42F1-900B-108931CE4B5D_zpst3wrkjio.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/981F08C9-557E-42F1-900B-108931CE4B5D_zpst3wrkjio.jpg.html)

much less spongy and more responsive but maybe a little harder to push .so have i gone the right way,it feels much better on both clutch and brake,don't know if my ratio calculations a right so i stand to be corrected on those  :o i won't be surprised to find they're wrong

thanks again for any and all comments

edit: forgot to say yes bleeders are at the bottom,is this wrong? because of the single leading shoe set up and the hand brake lever this seem to be the way they have to be or did i miss something 

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just had a look at fifer's site and now i wonder if my backplate is on in the wrong place,the diagram i found had the cylinder at the bottom not at the side

Pete (fifer) will know mate.Just remember that air will always go to the top .could get trapped in cylinder ,as I explained on mine.Im not sure if thats the actual prob with yours,but worth a try anyways. Could be a combo of things? Keep us up to date .....Rod

will do , i think i am air free ,as i said we stood the trike up vertically to bleed the brakes, not a very practical thing to do now that it's fully built but hopefully not something that needs doing to often.will be interesting to see how the should be orientated

Bleed nipples should be at the top.
Near side wheel, viewed from front. I ran my brake line from master to the off side wheel then across the axle so I only have one bleed nipple.

thats interesting heres mine from the same place

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/A0725B18-EC11-4911-B682-055AF51C7EFF_zpscgls8kh4.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/A0725B18-EC11-4911-B682-055AF51C7EFF_zpscgls8kh4.jpg.html)

the bleeder and pipe aren't interchangable but i'm sure the ones i took of where like this too,will have to look through the scrap and see if i can find them

thanks Olds

just checked on fifers site and part number listed as bbw 1545 which is what i have got,i wonder Olds does the hydraulic piston point up or down?

My front and rear brakes are seperate.  Don't think I'd like them all to work off one lever, too much front brake on a trike and you can get the rear trying to overtake the front, specially on a gravelly or wet road.

they may end up that way yet BG! it was really so Lesley would find it easier to ride,more car like.

just went and found an image of a new bbw1545 and the bleader is on the botton of it so i'll order a new one tomorrow and see how it comes

You sure the bleed cant be changed for the pipe? Your nipple seems more protruding (ooer!) Than olds one and the pic of the one youve ordered.

Inside the ports are shaped for the seat of what is to be screwed into it tapered for the bleeder and op2 for the brake end so I don't think you can change them. I'll try and get a pic later

Hmm. Both the ports on mine are the same. Think the norm for Robins and Rialtos was a feed to offside, single bleed on the nearside and a link pipe between wheels, Kittens, a three way union, two feed pipes and two bleed nipples. Though it shouldn't matter how you plumb it up.
Also seen back plates where the wheel cylinder is mounted at the top and adjuster at the bottom.

yep thats the way the car i took this all from was piped Olds,only 1 bleeder on the nearside.

got pics of the ports

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/28932A4F-F23D-44F9-8B43-7699FA5D8FAB_zpsjgry7iow.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/28932A4F-F23D-44F9-8B43-7699FA5D8FAB_zpsjgry7iow.jpg.html)
bleeder port

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/855B5020-E8E8-41B1-985E-2FE3047EABD2_zpsk7y7pbdx.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/Eddie096/media/855B5020-E8E8-41B1-985E-2FE3047EABD2_zpsk7y7pbdx.jpg.html)
brake pipe port

looked through ebay and most pics have the bleeder at the bottom,i'll have to keep digging into this one although i don't get any difference when pumping the pedal so guess in alright any way.discs are looking tempting though!

Thought mine were standard Reliant and I have nipples both sides - on the top.  But of course I know there's an issue with Reliant axles having to be used upside down with some bikes - mine included - and I've seen something (probably on here) about how to swop the brakes round so they are still right way up.

Both ports are the same, so either or, and I always use, line in on N/S, with link brake pipe to o/s, and one bled nipple, and if you have air collecting you have an air leak!! prob. on return stroke of the M/Cyl. whether you fit the bleeds up , down, whatever, should not present a problem if the master cyl. is higher than the slaves, Morrag

the ports are different ,the bleeder one is tappered away from the port the brake pipe port is raised in the centre.the m/c is probably level with the wheel cylinders and i have rpv's fitted but i don't have air in the system i don't think so for the minute that not an issue but with the bleeder at the bottom does it make it hard to bleed properly when the need arrises. plumbing wise i come out of the m/c into the rpv and then onto a 4 way splitter wich the feeds each back wheel and the rear brake light switch.

Shouldn't the handbrake mechanism be to the rear on a standard Reliant ? If so the rear brake backplate is ounted 180' out . Move it round and it'll put the bleed nipple at the top.

Fifers site shows the cylinder should be at the BOTTOM.

https://sites.google.com/site/fifersrelianthintsandtips/kitten-related/kitten-rear-brakes

That's would probably be the Kitten. Different wheel cylinder ( 2 piston ) and hand brake arrangement. But I think the position of the cylinder is  unimportant as long as it is free to slide in the back plate ( don't secure the brake pipe too close ) and the hand brake cable is run to suit.
A lot of folk don't realise that the cylinders should slide and that short flex hoses would be better but were probably omitted because of cost.

thanks to all who replied ,i think i'm going to try them with the extended lever and see how they feel and i'll report back in due course once the brakes have fully bedded in etc so thanks again one and all plus i got some bike bits to be going on with !

Good luck with it mate.As Morag mentioned, it should stop quite well compared to the standard Reliant.Mine has discs on rear and 2 big discs on front, no servo, and definitely STOPS QUICK! I fitted a adjustable balance valve as well.

cheers Rod it probably stops better than i imagine but i'm used to a jap car which has brakes sharper than a pin and a caddy that i drive everyday which has fair old anchors if a little keen on the abs!