Manky Monkey Motors

well after many things going t#ts up  i decided to keep at least one of the dutton kit cars that were up at wonderland.
and so the other sunday i dragged the old trailer up there and dragged one out of the shed along with a landrover full of bits,,/odds an sods  dragged the bl##dy lot over to north lincs.
where i studied it all for about three days then ripped the body off,, junked the wiring loom etc,,etc, so that i had a ,rolling, chassis i then put a couple of basic wire,s and a can of go,go, juice to the engine which fired up first attemt (i have bills/reciepts for over a grand thats been spent on this car some of wich is engine work)

so i,v no set about sorting it out and making improvments adding a crossmember or two and a few braces to the chassis  duttons were built to a ,,bare minimum,, and are over twenty odd years old now

i took some photo,s and will try to post them  (not good at that sort of thing ,,,i allways mess em up ,

That's great Mike. Sounds like a nice little project -& on the road for the Summer!  ;D

well i spent an hour trying to re-size and post photo,s last night  when it got to 1am i gave up  tried again earlier and f#ck#d em up again

so youlle have to wait for photo,s till i get my patientence back   and i even took a few extra photo,s up at ,,wonderland,, ::) ::)

Oi Mike - email me your phots and I'll post then for ya!


Had any joy from the ad on the Dutton Owners site?   
http://www.duttonownersclub.co.uk/for_sale_NEW.asp (http://www.duttonownersclub.co.uk/for_sale_NEW.asp)

hi, bg    going to try another photo shop thingy    ::) i gotta learn how to do it properly eventually

didnt get much joy from the add,s  so got in touch with the owners club and they still had me on record from years ago so i re-joined and decided to have a go at  ,,at least one of them myself  hence this thread  ::) ::)

I've got a clever little program that resizes pics when I right-click on them - what operating system does yopur computer have?  (XP, Vista, Windows 7? etc) - there's prolly one for you too!

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bl##dy photo,s >:( >:(

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WHOOPEEEE thats it   thanks  :)

why o why cant i get it to work  i,v spent 3 outa the last 24 hrs trying to sort out photo,s   i,v got more ,, even got em into photobucket  but now they wont come out  ::)

Mike,Go to your photobucket album,
Double click the pic you want,
When the the pic appears Large look to the box to the right,IMG CODE,
Right click in the box,it will say copied,
Come back to the post here on the site,Right click your pic should be there.

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not winning  >:(

Try this http://s468.photobucket.com/profile/spanners1964

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photo,s seem to be in reverse order sorry  but i,v had enough trouble just getting them posted  ::)

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doe,s  it go yet dad !!!!

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OI,,WATCH WHERE YOURE GOING !!!!!

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Taken in 2005 I see  ::) what condition is it now  ???

thats it now camera date is duff,,  didnt notice untill just  ::)  battery,s are always going flat in cam so date is never right --so her indoors has just informed me  ::) ::) well it is her camera

low flying shell
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thats where its spent the last few years

well i actualy got a little bit done   temp fitted brake master cyl to the end of the pipe and roughly bled the brake,s.. then checked all cyl,s and the calipers. these were all ,brand, spankin new but havn,t been anywhere and appart from one sticky wheel cyl which i freed off all are good as new .
i then turned my attention to the chassis just behind the rear axle and welded in two new crossmembers these will support and protect the stainless fuel tank i have aquired for it

not got to much done but i,m not feeling to good again poorly painfull joints etc and err indoors has to be obayed (a little)  got house veiwings and valuers coming on wednesday so some ,,home,, choors have to be done  ::)

Looks like you got the pic posting sorted Mike,No stopping you now. ;D

still struggling  dont think i,m doing it the ,,proper,, way  :D :D but i,v found my own way  ::) ::)

Looks like it could be a georgeous baby once complete Mike :)

now i,v got a dilemma  which engine/box/diff  to run  ::)


rebuilt,rebored 1300cc crossflow thats in the photo,s with the early type (fixed bellhouseing) g/box and a 4.1 diff in an escort axle



                                                                 or

a 1600e cortina lump that was rebuilt sometime ago on a 711m block not used for awhile but bench run a couple of yrs ago with a later cortina box and the escort axle and 4.1 diff
or with a cortina mk2 axle believed 1600e not sure of diff ,,not checked ratio yet


                              ideas / input  please
 most parts above will interchange /mix+match to a degree  ;)

I would go with the 711m block, they were a sort after block back in the day. we used to have um bored out to a 1725 with a fast road rally cam.They were good strong engines and if it is a 1600E back axle fit that with it.
If only cars were that simple today, oh well we can dream.
Good luck with it.

the 1300 is a 711m aswell

the block codes were      711m AA =1300cc         and    711m BA =1600cc

Well they do say there is no accounting for cc, so bigger is better
go with the 1600

go with the 711 block but 1300 head.

this should be a photo of the tank i,m planning to use  but i may shorten it a bit  ..its seen here sat on the ,,spare ,dutton chassis
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another 1  wonder how much it holds ?  any idea,s  approx, will do  it measures 35 inch, x 9 and 1/2  x 9 and 3/4
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Go with the 1.6 in the dutton & stick the 1.3 inyour trike  ;D

 according to your measurements its 45 litres. 9.8 gallon.  you can use a 1600xflow with a 1300 head to get some good accelaration going, sounds wrong but its true

dutton will be seen around barton (wheatsheaf  or sloop)  and south ferriby (hope n anchor) this summer  good eating/sunday lunch,s  ;) ;)

45 litre,s  at approx £1.40 a litre               =   £63  i,ll never have the cash to fill it  ::) ::)  best make it a bit smaller   ;) ;)

as for 1300 head on 1600 block i,v seen it done i used to build engine,s for  F2 stock cars  2litre pinto,s were limited tuning  and raced against 1300cc crossflow which were allowed almost unlimited tuning  the 13,s would eat the 2litre,s on a tarmac track  by hell theyd ,,,,scream,,, but the 2litre,s were better on shale because on the bottom end torque..
oh happys days they were  ::) ::)

i had the 1600 xf 4 speed (dog box is it known as??)in my dutton melos its so much lighter than pinto, it would do about 105/ 110mph but god shed get there fast i had the twin choke down draught on her with a pancake  which i later made an adapter for so i could stick it out the top of the bonnet,i had the  13"superlites with the crome rim,only alloys ive ever brought new.i wish id never sold it, got an a4 printed pic still, its the only one ive got bearing in mind i sold it 8 year ago an ive kept a scabby bit of paper with a pic of it, ile try and scan it and post it up, if i can work the thing out ???im abit enveus and will be following your build mike so plenty of pics ;)

i,v wrapped her up under a nice new tarp this afternoon as its forecast ,,,,SNOW,,,,, and its blowing a bl##dy gale now
so i dont think there will be alot of progress this week   got alot happening over the house and got to fetch some more bits over from ,,wonderland,, when i can get over there , ::)

sorry gang but no more progress on this at the moment
weathers not been fit
i,m certainly not fit

i fact one or two of you have noticed that i,m no,,,fun,, of late  ,,,, just finding day-to-day life hard at the mo.

plannened on a fresh ,towing, motor before ,basingstoke, as i have a future project to collect on route to the show  but its now looking as though its gone ,tits up . ::) ::) ::)

not havin much luck ..

Hang in there mate.

looked at  over 20  vans  either to dear or cr#p...

post man pat has knackered them all :o :o :o :o

We use Vauxhall Corsas & Ford Transit Connects in my Post Office depot. They go for auction every 3 years I think. My brother Brock used to have an ex Post Office Escort van. Pretty well sorted as I remember.

its transit connects that i,v been lookin at  but the lad that was havin the landy hasnt come up with the cash as yet
so many differant models and trim levels on the connects aswell ::) ::)

no more photo,s as yet,
but i tacked two more cross members in the chassis to take the tank  then found the old stock unused tank leaked so went back to an old plan and started to modify the tank  ::) it may work,, it may not :(
meanwhile the dutton,s been breeding and anothe melos has landed complete with a new galvanised chassis,
and yet another dutton to collect,,, ::) ::) that will take the currant total upto three  :o :o :o :o

have you seen rods sierra i waned one to stick an auto box in and make it a pick up, they were 10 a penny when i had my melos, now i cant afford one :'(

its a sierra pickup that i,m collecting on my way back from basingstoke on sunday,,,,,
i allways wanted the ,chassis cab,, version with a flat or stake bed body..
i,m hoping that this one will rebuild as a daily run-a-bout  thinking of going diesel  ::) ::) 1.8td out of a ford sierra should do  ;) ;)

dont know if there any use to you mike,just remembered ive kept them, 2 original dutton fiberglass bodied seat kind bucket short back jobbies just need new foam i think ive got the seat covers (black leather) any use there yours for postage. ile never need um :P

wherabouts are you (whitchurch way?)

update == duttons,, now equel 4,, 3 melos,s 2 with upto date documents .1 untracable, .. and a dutton sierra pickup a genuine factory built pickup,,,,,, i,m awaiting the return of the v5c from dvla.
and a galvinised chassis for a melos,,,

starting a production line ?  ;D

:D did think of making a few bits for them,, biggest problem now ,, is the iminent house move and the lack of storage untill i get things sorted  ::)

a "re-production" line

dutton project is now up for sale ,,, :o any takers,,

nobody fancy taking this project over ,,,,,,

One's enough for me Mike, when its finished :-\, the next project will be putting a yanky V8 into a Moggy Minor pickup. ;D

yanky v8,s are a pain in the ass  :o spent two hours this afternoon trying to set one up ,,bloody carb, keeps altering with tempreture rise,,
even got flame,s outa the exhausts  ::)

this is for sale on rods n, sods  :o

Would love to have one of these but not got the time money or space.

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very nice shame im skint

here it is rod , its cleaner than the last picture ,

well all in all i have three body,s three chassis,, and two bonnets and a number of engine,s ==== NO SALE, ::)

so its re-think time  i,m going to play with them  ;) ;) got an 1800 zetec ,,belter of an engine, research is on going to fit it into the galvanised chassis ,, then choose one of the body,s for it ,,

it's destiny innit?

 Trial it i will passenger for you wile you develop it and and your technique then you have to  train your better half up to passenger well that and how  to bounce vigorously.

she,s allready broke the bed  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Hey! Now you go easy ;D ;D

mike, a few useful links - clicky

http://www.ikengineering.co.uk/miscellaneous%20components.html - reverse impeller/drive kit

http://105speed.hyperboards.com/action/view_topic/topic_id/10442/post_id/82664#82664

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zetec-1-8-2-0-ST170-Black-top-water-pump-race-kitcar-Hotrod-Banger-/350565195706?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item519f505fba&clk_rvr_id=449763037786

http://www.raceline.co.uk/products/part_section.asp?SectionID=60&CategoryID=4

useful site and info - http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=199825
Look at the prices though :(