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« Reply #300 on: October 31, 2012, 10:36:45 PM » |
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The engine's also got one of these hanging off it by it's wires. Boyer electronic ignition. So what does this connect to?
I also need a fuse box & probably an indicator flasher relay as I'll more than likely put the completed bike in for MSVA. Nobody seems to bother testing bikes, but surely if you've chopped the frame in half & added a hardtail, it should be MSVA'd as a new build?
Bikes don't seem to have headlight or other relays. The ignition switch will go in a seperate housing next to the battery.
Anything else I'm missing?
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« Reply #301 on: November 01, 2012, 07:38:45 AM » |
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Try this http://raskcycle.com/tech tips, wiring diagram Agreed , if you alter the frame it should go for MSVA but you may be able to keep the original registration number if engine and frame numbers match the V5 Bikes generaly don't need light relays as the headlight is often 35w not the 2x 55 or 60w of a car. |
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« Reply #302 on: November 01, 2012, 02:16:33 PM » |
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Think you mean old bikes don't have relays on lights Andy, think the newer ones with better listing do. Certainly my BM has relays (extremely expensive ones too  ) |
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« Reply #303 on: November 02, 2012, 06:18:20 AM » |
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What's the other unit, top left?
That`s the voltage regulator Andy, they were seperate units on early XS650`s |
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« Reply #304 on: November 02, 2012, 06:27:26 AM » |
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Ignition unit. I know that's what it is cos it says so on it. What does this hook up to then?
That connects to the coil pick up unit with other wires for the kill switch and a feed in. Is it a 6 or 7 wire ignition unit? |
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« Reply #305 on: November 02, 2012, 06:50:32 AM » |
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The engine's also got one of these hanging off it by it's wires. Boyer electronic ignition. So what does this connect to?
An electronic conversion, if you can get me the number on the unit we can sort that too. It`s the box no. we need, so it`ll be BOX000??, numbers, not question marks  , probably 10. Ah, just re-read some of this and your scrapping the starter motor, these electronic conversions dont work great with a kick start system. You`ll need to check wether or not you still have points fitted, chances are they will have been thrown away, including the base plate & the advance unit. |
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« Reply #306 on: November 02, 2012, 07:44:24 AM » |
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I have used these on my race bikes for years with little problem. There should be a stator plate where the points used to be. Probably under a cover at the end of the cam (not too au-fait with Yams) It is a circular PCB type material with two small hall effect coil bobbins and a magnetic trigger on the end of the cam. This picks up the trigger signal and converts it to 12v switch for the coils. The type you have is quite elderly but should be OK. If not they are not wildly expensive to replace. The only down side is the advance curve programmed in is designed for a Brit twin and may not be suitable for the XS. Really easy to wire up as the instructions are on the box pictured.  |
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« Reply #307 on: November 02, 2012, 08:46:37 AM » |
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« Reply #308 on: November 02, 2012, 08:58:33 AM » |
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I use a twin output coil from a honda CB250/400n. Is is a wasted spark (fires on exhaust stroke as well) system. NGK V or EGV rated plugs are best.
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« Reply #309 on: November 03, 2012, 07:31:34 PM » |
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So should that early type voltage regulator be used in conjunction with the finned rectifier, or is the finned one a later, combined unit? The donor bike came with a pile of spare bits. Stupidly, I stripped it down & chucked eveything in the same box -so now I don't know what was fitted & what wasn't.
O.K, the number on the Boyer unit is 00010/twin12 01/102.
5 wires coming out of it.
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« Reply #310 on: November 03, 2012, 07:34:12 PM » |
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As you said Andy, the points have been replaced with the Boyer stator plate. It's marked "XS 650".
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« Reply #311 on: November 03, 2012, 07:35:47 PM » |
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« Reply #312 on: November 03, 2012, 07:37:59 PM » |
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I can't remember what used to sit in the other chrome casing, on the other end of the cam -it's been 20 years since I had an XS. Balance weights? Whatever it is, ain't.
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« Reply #313 on: November 03, 2012, 07:39:39 PM » |
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This was among the pile of 'leccy bits that came with the bike. XS or just random bike part? 2 wires.
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« Reply #314 on: November 03, 2012, 07:46:17 PM » |
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Various layers of the seat base plate welded together to form the flush fitting access hatch for the electrics box. Held with 3 cadmium plated Dzus fasteners from my spares pile. The seat will hide this, but will hinge up to reveal it when needed.
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