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Title: It IS rocket science
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 07, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
So did anyone see the Space X launch yesterday?
The most powerful rocket available, (I nearly said On Earth, but I guess it isn't anymore), since the demise of the Space Shuttle programme. This raises the real possibility of a return -or first visit, depending on what you believe -to the Moon, especially as Ronald McDonald has decreed that America will also reboot it's space plans.
Space X is headed by Elon Musk, who definitely sounds like the baddie in a sci fi film, but actually owns both the Tesla car company & PayPal -so he's probably got more money to spend on this than the Government.
The test payload onboard the rocket was his old Tesla roadster. It was launched on a trajectory that should've put it into orbit around Mars, but overshot -so there's now a secondhand car, complete with a dummy dressed in a space suit at the wheel, heading into deep space. The car's stereo's playing David  Bowie's "Starman" on a continuous loop & the dashboard display shows the message "Don't Panic" -the words inscribed on the cover of The Hitch Hikers' Guide To The Galaxy. You've got to admit, for an evil genius bent on global domination, he's got a sense of humour, but I do wonder what alien life will think of us when they spot it :)


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 07, 2018, 11:40:20 AM
This is a genuine shot from the onboard camera, so you can ride along with the Starman on the ultimate roadtrip. :)


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 07, 2018, 11:49:52 AM
Meanwhile, a New Zealand group have announced they've secretly launched a giant glitter ball into space, which will orbit the Earth & be the brightest thing visible in the night sky for a year until it burns up in the atmosphere.
Scientists & astronomers  are furious about the light pollution it'll cause & say it's incredibly irresponsible & selfish. The makers say they did it as an art installation that can be shared by the whole World.


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 07, 2018, 11:54:00 AM
Talking of pollution - I was watching the huge clouds of smoke billowing from the Tesla rocket & the enormous jets of flame from it's rockets as it headed skywards & wondering what it's emmisions were like? Is that mostly clouds of steam/water vapour? Do flaming exhausts give off huge amounts of carbon? Have they just wiped out all our advances in car emmisions in one go?


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Tony oily bike on February 07, 2018, 12:37:15 PM
Not only was the launch impressive, so too was the return of the two of the three boost stages that successfully landed!

Heard on the tv that there’s a copy of Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy in the car’s glove compartment............ :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKs84KjhBAM


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 07, 2018, 12:56:11 PM
Brilliant!
Yes, I saw a video of the boosters landing side by side, coming down on their tails like every 1950s sci fi film you ever saw. What an age we're living in! :)

https://youtu.be/u0-pfzKbh2k


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 07, 2018, 01:03:13 PM
"I had this image of a giant explosion on the pad, with a wheel bouncing down the road and the Tesla logo landing somewhere with a thud," Musk told reporters at Kennedy Space Center after the launch. "But fortunately, that's not what happened. Crazy things can come true".


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: JayJay on February 07, 2018, 08:15:20 PM
It was brilliant. I was so astounded and totally awed by the sight of them arriving back where they were expected, safely and practically in sync so they can be used again. My Brother said it reminded him of Thunderbirds!  :D  I never saw the third booster land on the drone ship as they lost the live picture but I have since read it missed. I have seen a video of a booster landing on a drone ship successfully before and it is mind blowing.

I do keep my eye on what SpaceX is up to on their website plus Elon Musk's (great name) projects. I bought his biography. Very interesting.

As for the smoke/steam that appeared Andy, I wondered if we were going to lose sight of the rocket. I'm not sure about the eco side, I will have to read up on it, but would anyone dare to question that as "Mr Tesla" is behind it (obviously not Nikola - I have his biography too).  :D

Weird about the New Zealand group. You wouldn't think they could just do that. I know it is hard to stop more zealous nations but NZ are part of the Commonwealth and surely under agreements regarding any type of rocket. Won't stop us looking upwards though!  :o


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: minimutly on February 07, 2018, 08:26:36 PM
The commonwealth? I don't think that's any more than a collection of nations with a slightly tenuous link to our monarch?


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: JayJay on February 08, 2018, 01:27:07 AM
The commonwealth? I don't think that's any more than a collection of nations with a slightly tenuous link to our monarch?

Badly worded by me. This explanation is a bit longer though!

What I meant was, New Zealand is a respected and responsible country and one I would expect to adhere to a basic tenet of space exploration which is to do it for the benefit of and in the interests of all countries. In other words, NZ is not a country like North Korea, where it seems no one knows what could happen next.

NZ is upsetting other countries by sending up an object that has no clear use other than to be an art installation and which by being in space creates problems for other scientists who would have raised their objections if they had known beforehand. Therefore I can't quite understand why NZ even did this without first sharing this installation information with other countries involved in space exploration.



Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: stinkey on February 08, 2018, 12:20:16 PM
So it's ok for Musk to send up a massive great rocket,and North Korea just does whatever ? But a few mates send up a tiny glitter ball to make people gaze in Awe ,and everybody is up in Arms ? :-[
Don't get it ?


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 12, 2018, 10:50:26 AM
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Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: the coppersmith on February 12, 2018, 10:56:07 AM
 ;D ;D


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: morrag on February 12, 2018, 06:38:45 PM
I LOVE that............. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D brilliant! but what does it tell you about the "Leader of the Free World?"...Morrag


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: JayJay on February 12, 2018, 08:02:26 PM
On the whole I like Elon Musk (as I said previously, I have his biography) but by no means is he an angel. Plus I am pretty sure all his decisions are well thought out, perhaps even this one.

I would imagine this was a tweet crafted by Donald Trump's team and an error by them in not recognising Elon Musk's origins.  

Musk actually is an American citizen. He obtained American citizenship in 2002. Previously to that he obtained Canadian citizenship in the late 80s (his Mother was Canadian). He went to live in Canada when he was 17 to avoid South Africa's military conscription. Their version of National Service.

As Musk uses NASA facilities and employs many Americans in his companies I suppose it is fair to say American ingenuity is at work.

Whatever Musk's views on Donald Trump, I found his reply rude rather than funny (and feel it reflects badly on him) especially when he had earlier accepted a role on Trump's White House advisory council for various issues and had even stayed on it while the 'Muslim Ban' issue raged in the press saying that attacking Trump would achieve nothing. He did resign though when Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate agreement.

So yes, Musk was born in South Africa but he was not so devoted to the country that he was willing to do National Service and he was happy to renounce his citizenship in order to become American.

That said. I wish Donald Trump would stop Tweeting, especially his own badly worded ones. It doesn't fill most of the World's population with a lot of confidence.  :-\


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: morrag on February 12, 2018, 08:37:48 PM
A great many words JJ, but which only increases my negative opinion of "The Donald", regarding Musk's nationality, well I'm fairly ambivalent,really, though I sympathies with his unwillingness to be shot at on "The Border" in RSA, indeed having lived there myself, I brought my boys home before they could be used as cannon fodder in that regard! and the riposte was funny, to me anyway....Morrag


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Baychimp on February 13, 2018, 12:19:53 AM
He's South African. I have never met a polite one yet,or one that supported Apartheid. but someone must have. And I have met quite a lot


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: JayJay on February 13, 2018, 02:03:22 AM
That's fine for others to find it funny. I am not the humour police especially in light of jokes I've posted on MMM.  :) 

I was just saying why I didn't and why I thought it reflected badly on Elon Musk rather than Trump.



Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: stinkey on February 13, 2018, 10:33:19 AM
JJ I think you need to lighten up ? You seem to read to much Into things methinks.. ;D I found it funny,and it could even be a hoax? Who knows these days? I'm not a fan of Facebook and have never even attempted Twitter? The Name alone says it all for me ? :D..no offence meant by this comment by the way ;)


Title: Re: It IS rocket science
Post by: Manky Monkey on February 13, 2018, 08:14:28 PM
I very much doubt it's a real post, but it made me smile. :)