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« Reply #9165 on: January 05, 2017, 09:48:47 PM » |
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Still dry. Checked the roof again this afternoon by putting my hand up between the insulation. The metal was very cold, but bone dry. Fingers crossed it may have solved the problem. Cost of wooden batten, insulation & nails, about 50 quid. Even if the insulation soaked up loads of water & I had to pull it down in the Spring & replace it next year, it's worth it, (insulation cost 36 quid).
I rolled the Pop out of the garage this afternoon to work on a couple of small parts for my bike. When I rolled it back in again there was ice on it.
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« Reply #9166 on: January 05, 2017, 10:11:29 PM » |
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Sounds like a good result, I wonder if it's because no air can get to it? So no condensation can form? I'm inspired think I'll give it a go
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« Reply #9167 on: January 05, 2017, 10:14:19 PM » |
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Look up Warm Deck and Cold Deck flat roof that explains what's going on .
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« Reply #9168 on: January 05, 2017, 10:26:04 PM » |
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http://www.ashfordbuildingservices.co.uk/blog/e/warm-deck-or-cold-deck-flat-roof-that-is-the-question/Google is a wonderful thing, sometimes. No guarantee it'll work longterm, but it seems to be at the moment, & we've had several nights of minus temperatures since I fitted it. I've tried to pull the insulation down, so it's not in direct contact with the metal roof, as much as I can & there are small gaps along the back wall between the bricks & the corrugated roof panels, so there's at least a little airflow. If it gets damp, hopefully the moisture traps will pull the damp out of the air & the insulation will stop it dripping on everything, which is all I need it to do really. Before I fitted it, it looked like someone had opened the garage door & thrown a couple of buckets of water in there. Doesn't really feel much warmer in there, but it's now dry again.
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« Reply #9169 on: January 07, 2017, 01:54:50 PM » |
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Scats/Mole Country Stores sell chicken wire, but it's 53 quid for 12 1/2 metres. B & Q don't but they do sell sheets of fine wire mesh for plastering, but an 8' x 1 1/2' sheet's 13 quid -about 130 quid to do the whole garage! Think I'll leave it for now as I was only going to use it to stop the insulation from sagging. Doesn't seem to be at the moment & more battens would be the cheap option. Oh, & B & Q have reduced the insulation. I paid 18 quid a roll last week -now it's down to 9  |
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« Reply #9171 on: January 07, 2017, 02:45:39 PM » |
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Ooh, I might just do that. Thanks.
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« Reply #9172 on: January 07, 2017, 09:31:36 PM » |
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I was working in the garage till about 7 this evening, rubbing body filler down, (hope to finally put a couple of coats of filler primer on it tomorrow).
Checked the roof again & it was dry, but the walls are damp & there was condensation starting to form on some of the metal surfaces. I think that was probably down to me being in there, breathing. I painted the walls with masonry paint when I first moved in -can I paint a sealant over the top or would it have to go on bare brickwork? -no, I'm not scrubbing the paint off again.
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« Reply #9173 on: January 08, 2017, 08:06:22 AM » |
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The door open and near 100% humidity will see water condensing on the walls and the truck.
As you know, my workshop is heated but open the doors for a few minutes, rapid cooling of the air inside and hey presto. Free water on anything metal!
This is made worse if the outside temp is 5 or 6 degrees or so and humidity is high. Your truck lockup is constantly cold being out of the sun so open the door, warmer wet air floods in and condenses. I have found that it is the rate of cooling/heating that effects condensation.
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« Reply #9174 on: January 08, 2017, 09:57:25 AM » |
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Hi Andy -you were on my list of people to email this weekend -just checking in. You O.K?
Yeah, other than sealing the damp brickwork if I can, I think I've done all I can reasonably do. When I'm in there in the evenings, working by the light of the LED worklamp, it seems to stabilise & stay reasonably dry & workable, but then the last couple of evenings have been quite mild.
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« Reply #9175 on: January 08, 2017, 10:11:57 AM » |
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Hi Andy. Things are OK. Funeral tuesday then I guess look forward to the future.
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« Reply #9176 on: January 08, 2017, 10:42:47 AM » |
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Hope it goes as well as these things can mate. Keep in touch.
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« Reply #9178 on: January 08, 2017, 11:29:42 AM » |
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I very nearly understood that.
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« Reply #9179 on: January 08, 2017, 11:34:36 AM » |
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