wiring

[dobber]

done the first bit tbone only thing not worked was starter button. no current out. will strip it and see if switch unless you think it could be something to do with stand or clutch lever cut off.

[tbone]

There would have been a clutch switch, neutral switch and possibly a side stand switch depending on the exact model.
Are you using the full harness?

[dobber]

was all three tbone i think. but obviously there not connected, not using full loom, only as far as first block connectors really,, wondered if the starter button went to earth or something and relied on a live from the isolating stand or clutch type switches. bit of a night mare but really enjoyed getting into it.,  with someone clued up pointing you the right way makes me think i can do it,, was hoping mates would come round earlier,,,, me with wire, laptop and connecters abounding  so it looked like i was really clued up..

[tbone]

Modern `safety` features can be a pig to bypass, but we`ll get there.
Just to re-cap, so it`s straight in my mind, so far we have....

Live feed from battery to a fuse, fuse to Red wire on the main switch.
The Blue wire feeds the lightswitch, plus spur to idiot lamps.
The Blue/Red feeds the rear lamps.
Blue/white & Blue/Black are unknown, suspect feeds out to ?
The Brown wire. This would have gone to the alternator, spur to fusebox (plus red/white & red/yellow spur to fusebox).


Ahh ha!
We need 12v going through the brown wire.

Dobber, put a temperary connection from the thick Brown wire to the battery positive (+).

[tbone]

Still convinced that Blue/White is feed to solenoid and Red/White feeds coil.
So, the other Red/White to fusebox (feed out) which is supplied live feed from Red/white spur off Brown wire.

(apologies for the pics, sort of sketching out loud)

[dobber]

the black and the blue and white go to the start button, the two red and white go to the kill switch which is a live in from my fuse box thru switch and to coil which is turning coil live on and off ok. so im going to make  blue and white live by picking up on the live going to the coil from the kill switch and send the black one to the solonoid. if its arse over tit will swap them round..
right done that, got a live to solonoid when starter swich pressed and a live to coil both when ignition on and kill switch on .. turn either off and both go dead.   RESULT.

[tbone]

That`ll do nicely then. Well done mate 

[dobber]

ON A ROLL, just put a live from ignition back thru fuse box then wired up both brake lights to it so they have there own fuse. solonoinds not working,nothing with wiring just been sat too long, works if i short it across with a screwdriver but no matter what live i put in it wont kick over. big n naff anyhow so will purchase a shiny new one.
the switch on the clutch lever tbone just wants cuttin off? [safety my arse]
just gonna cut it out of loom from switch and see where horn wires go.

[dobber]

done a recci on the main light switch cluster,
got 9 wires
thickish yellow to main beam
green to dip
black was earth [only goes to horn then wire out of horn to switch]
brown goes to left indicator but spured off,[ presumably to flasher unit ]
dark green to right indicator same spured
 blue wire went to the small 4 block connector thats goes to ignition.
 left with a thick red/yellow wire
 a brown
a brown with white stripe
  thats the color of them from the block to the switches.
 allso found  a blue/red wire from the 4 block from ignition that went to the side light and came live when ignition turned to park.
need to know now how the wire from indicator switch which went to respective indicators wires into the flasher unit then obviously goes to rear indicator, and, does it need two warning lights or can i wire in a buzzer i have. [ one wire to each indicator and a third to earth ]
does the ignition light pick up a live from the ignition then have an earth running to the alternator,

[tbone]

ON A ROLL, just put a live from ignition back thru fuse box then wired up both brake lights to it so they have there own fuse. solonoinds not working,nothing with wiring just been sat too long, works if i short it across with a screwdriver but no matter what live i put in it wont kick over. big n naff anyhow so will purchase a shiny new one.
the switch on the clutch lever tbone just wants cuttin off? [safety my arse]
just gonna cut it out of loom from switch and see where horn wires go.

Yep, ditch it

[tbone]

Yellow: feed out to main beam
Green : feed out to dip beam
Blue/Black: feed in to the switch from the light switch

Brown:       feed to L/H indicators, spur goes to warning light not flasher unit
Dark Green: feed to R/H indicators, spur as above
Yellow/Red: (feeds the self cancel unit) not needed
Brown/White: feeds the flasher switch from the flasher unit

Black: is earth, feed to horn, earth switched

The ignition light is: live feed from fuse to one side of the light, other side of light to small terminal on the alternator

[dobber]

evening tbone, having another go.
the only blue/red wire is the one that comes live when ignition on park and went to the side light which had spurs on. of the four wires in that block from ignition, one for park/side light, one goes to switch cluster then left with a blue/black and blue/white.
.only wire that looks strong enough to power the lights thru switch is the red/yellow one, which leaves the brown/white one which you said feeds flashers and a light brown which is possibly something to do with the pass light? all the others i had taped and named where they were from on the loom i had left as i stripped the old bike.

[tbone]

Getting a bit confusing cos of them dam passin lights!
There is a Red/Yellow wire that comes from the Lights off/park/on switch, that wire goes to the passing light switch.
The Blue/Black wire that comes from the lights off/park/on switch is the one that feeds the high low switch.

The blue/red one fed the auxiliary lights & the rear lights.

There is a Yellow/red that goes from the flasher switch to the self cancel unit.

No idea what the light brown one does! but could be a feed to the horn?

[dobber]

not half as confused as i am,  going insane.  going to strip the switch and see if i can suss it cos not got a lot of the colors you mentioned.
apart from the main feed in out of ignition there are only 4 wires in the block .
blue [goes to switch cluster]
blue/black
blue/white
blue/red [ went to the park light]

[tbone]

I`m not on the Main ignition switch, i`m on the light switch on the right handlebar.