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« Reply #9015 on: November 15, 2016, 07:05:33 PM »

I also knocked up a couple of temporary struts to take the place of the rear shocks, so I can take them down to Gaz Shocks & buy replacements.
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« Reply #9016 on: November 15, 2016, 07:06:44 PM »

Cardboard pick-up bed?
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« Reply #9017 on: November 15, 2016, 07:20:59 PM »

Love the look of your truck..MM..can't wait to see you pull up at some show with the chop sat on the back ? COOL ! Cool
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« Reply #9018 on: November 15, 2016, 09:59:00 PM »

 Smiley Been discussing that with a mate on FaceBook this evening.
I've booked 2 weeks off work in June to go to the "Cry Baby" hotrod/bike show in Redange, France, (near the border with Luxembourg).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJChXgRPNCk

My buddy & I were best mates at school & joined a local bike club together. He's now retired, with a collection of vintage bikes & is putting an old Indian together for the Spring. I've done the Dutch show 3 times now & just fancy a change, but didn't want to venture further afield on my own, (no sense of direction, can barely speak English, no idea about driving on foreign roads etc). He's up for the trip though, so looks like we could be having a bit of a French adventure next Summer.
I'd love to take both the Pop & the bike, but it's not technically legal to tow a trailer cos the tow hitch & wiring should've been inspected when it was SVA'd. No-one would know, but it'd be just my luck to have an accident while towing in a foreign country. So I'm thinking if I leave the pick-up bed off, I could use a length of that aluminium U channel with holes in that they use on proper bike trailers, with outriggers to bolt to the chassis where the bed bolts on. If I used ring bolts they'd also give me somewhere to strap it to. I could use a 2nd length to slide out from under the 1st as a ramp. Trouble is, the chassis is only 5 feet long behind the cab. The bike's 7 1/2. So I'd have to leave the main fuel tank off, (the cylindrical one behind the cab), & run on the smaller reserve tank under the back of the chassis, which has a range of about 100 miles. Redange is 400 miles away. The bike would still overhang the chassis by 2 1/2 feet. It'd fix Kev's concerns about not having enough weight over the back end though.  Smiley I've already measured the lock-up & they'd actually fit in loaded up too!

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« Reply #9019 on: November 15, 2016, 10:33:17 PM »

Smiley Been discussing that with a mate on FaceBook this evening.
I've booked 2 weeks off work in June to go to the "Cry Baby" hotrod/bike show in Redange, France, (near the border with Luxembourg).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJChXgRPNCk

My buddy & I were best mates at school & joined a local bike club together. He's now retired, with a collection of vintage bikes & is putting an old Indian together for the Spring. I've done the Dutch show 3 times now & just fancy a change, but didn't want to venture further afield on my own, (no sense of direction, can barely speak English, no idea about driving on foreign roads etc). He's up for the trip though, so looks like we could be having a bit of a French adventure next Summer.
I'd love to take both the Pop & the bike, but it's not technically legal to tow a trailer cos the tow hitch & wiring should've been inspected when it was SVA'd. No-one would know, but it'd be just my luck to have an accident while towing in a foreign country. So I'm thinking if I leave the pick-up bed off, I could use a length of that aluminium U channel with holes in that they use on proper bike trailers, with outriggers to bolt to the chassis where the bed bolts on. If I used ring bolts they'd also give me somewhere to strap it to. I could use a 2nd length to slide out from under the 1st as a ramp. Trouble is, the chassis is only 5 feet long behind the cab. The bike's 7 1/2. So I'd have to leave the main fuel tank off, (the cylindrical one behind the cab), & run on the smaller reserve tank under the back of the chassis, which has a range of about 100 miles. Redange is 400 miles away. The bike would still overhang the chassis by 2 1/2 feet. It'd fix Kev's concerns about not having enough weight over the back end though.  Smiley I've already measured the lock-up & they'd actually fit in loaded up too!


I've got an unused Erde (Erde make motorcycle trailers) channel (no end loop) looking for a new home, yours for a packet of Jaffa cakes!!
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« Reply #9020 on: November 15, 2016, 10:46:35 PM »

I might just take you up on that Tony!
Of course, I could add another couple of gallons to the fuel range by hooking up a line to the bike tank! Quick release fuel couplings & running off the same line as the main tank uses. Or use an adapted metal Jerry Can, with an outlet welded into the base, sat to one side, behind the cab.
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« Reply #9021 on: November 16, 2016, 12:09:39 AM »

Cant you retro fit a tow bar now then , i took mine off to tidy it up and MOTed with out it ,i did ask about the new laws about themand was told if on single plug just fitting area is checked but with twin plugs they then have to check they all work
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« Reply #9022 on: November 16, 2016, 09:46:07 AM »

Yes you can on modern production cars, but not on one-offs like mine unless it's tested at the time of registration.
When big manufacturers build a new model they have to send a batch of them to VOSA for testing. They're the ones you see being run into concrete walls to test crumple zones & stuff like that. The companies have strict quality controls that guarantee every car will be exactly the same, so if the test batch pass, they get a licence to make, say, a million of them. So they'll all be cleared for fitment of towbars etc.
Because mine's a single vehicle, everything has to be tested at the time of registration. We were short of time & rewiring it for a tow hitch & making up the bracketry wasn't worth it cos I didn't think I'd ever tow anything. I've only ever towed a couple of times & really don't like doing it, so if I'm going to carry the bike at all I'd rather mount it on the back of the truck.
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« Reply #9023 on: November 16, 2016, 12:35:46 PM »

What about fitting the pickup bed as you would for normal use. Then make another tailgate to match the vehicle, but make it long enough to take the rear wheel of the chop when its folded down, for when you want to transport the bike. Can easily be made with subtle supports that mach the pick up bed.  Smiley
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« Reply #9024 on: November 16, 2016, 02:26:18 PM »

ramp up onto the roof? then you could keep both tanks?
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« Reply #9025 on: November 16, 2016, 05:56:05 PM »

 Smiley Thought about the ramp up over the roof thing, but that'd be a bugger to load & unload wouldn't it! Can you imagine trying to push the weight of a bike up that sort of gradient. Would also be very tall & ungainly.
A replacement tailgate wouldn't be a bad idea -I've seen one somewhere on the net with a curved recess in it for the rear wheel to sit into.
I'm really not looking to do this regularly, maybe just the trip to France in June & one or two shows around that time, so don't want to go overboard with design & costs. The pick-up bed's in quite a sorry state after 3 years of sitting outside in all weathers, so I'm planning on running without it for a while, so I can get the Pop on the road as soon as possible & "restore" the bed at my leisure once the dry weather gets here. Just toying with ideas at the moment.  Smiley
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« Reply #9026 on: November 16, 2016, 06:05:48 PM »

Nice to see one time forum member Captain Spanner Fingers today. Jason rents a former store room of the local Labour Club, just around the corner from my lock-up, which he's turned into a bit of a general workshop. He stopped by just to have a look at the Pop after I "popped" up on his FaceBook feed recently. We got to discussing paint for the chassis & he recommended Finnigan's garage door paint, (the people who make Hammerite). Said it's nothing like Hammerite, which I hate, but can be painted on bare metal, has rust inhibitors in it & dries super smooth & glossy with no brush marks. Might give it a try.
Removed one of the rear shocks today & modified the top mount to give a little more clearance, then replaced the shock with a temporary strut so I can take it to the shock absorber place for a replacement, (they've both rusted & seized up while being stood outside for so long). Also brushed a coat of Fertan rust killer on the rest of the back end of the chassis, before covering it with filler dust when I finished the day rubbing down some filler on the cab. Pitch black by 4.30 in the afternoon, so even though I'm on holiday at the moment, not getting half as much done as I'd like. It's all steady progress though.
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« Reply #9027 on: November 16, 2016, 06:15:00 PM »

Can you keep the fuel tank if the bike was put diagonally across the bed
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« Reply #9028 on: November 16, 2016, 07:13:14 PM »

The tank's about the same width as the chassis, so wouldn't make a lot of difference really. As I said, just playing with ideas at the moment.
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« Reply #9029 on: November 16, 2016, 11:28:27 PM »

Take the front wheel out, bike immediately becomes shorter!
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