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« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2008, 06:18:05 PM »

it's a 1600 crossflow with a big webber downdraft thingy.

Thanks for the diagram, I'm sorting it out to finish summer and then it's getting a full rewire.
I'll be happier knowing it was wired by me under the supervision of a mate who has a kit car and has wired a few up.

I'm a lot happier with the dash layout now and it all falls to hand easily enough. I have managed to ditch a load of idiot lights by useing illuminated switches.

more as it happens.

Gary
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« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2008, 08:56:36 PM »

Are you keeping the blue seats Gary?  That really bright blue would be a good colour for the car if so, or it has to be a colour that goes with the blue, bright yellow would be great!
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« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2008, 10:07:50 AM »

Are you keeping the blue seats Gary?  That really bright blue would be a good colour for the car if so, or it has to be a colour that goes with the blue, bright yellow would be great!

Not sure as yet Bobbi,
I have ordered some red seats. The paint will revolve around the interior so I'm not sure at all yet.

Gary
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« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2008, 10:08:22 AM »

Of bikes, Trikes and Tubby men with a hankering for kit cars and the wind in their hair.


Kit cars? Funny bits of kit for a biker to be messing about with but needs must.
My back is now well beyond the sitting position demanded by most bikes and trikes, it’s too painful for me to use them for more than 20 minutes or so. I’ve also had to concede that perhaps I’m a little afraid of the consequences of having a big ‘off’ and the worry that Wendy and the kids have expressed has tempered my usual ‘Sod it’ approach to life.

I had thought of getting a street legal kart or buggy but the affordable ones are slow and tiny, not suitable for one of my stature or one in need of a speed fix. So then, what’s the next best thing?
It has to be open top, it has to do more than the national limit. Not that I do unless on a closed road but it’s nice to know you can. It needs to handle reasonably well, get a wiggle on and be fun to drive. It has to have a modicum of comfort and above all it needs to offer a little more protection than a bike or trike.  Being strapped into a decent bucket seat within a roll cage is safer in my humble opinion.

I spent a bit of time thinking about building from scratch but the cost and time involved put me off. I had a look at a lot of owner’s club sites and manufacturers with a view to getting a completed car but again cost was an issue. Eventually I settled on a second hand car. A slightly tatty 1996 Dutton Phaeton S3 with a 1971 1600 X-Flow engine. It’s white, very white indeed but Wendy says I can change it as soon as. She normally doesn’t like me changing perfectly good machinery on a whim or styling issue but this time she agrees, the white has to go.

It’s properly registered as a Dutton on the V5 and it came with 12 months MOT and 4 months tax on it. I paid the princely sum of £900-00 for it and drove it home hoping it would make it, I had to run the cooling fan constantly as the temperature gauge wasn’t working. The petrol tank leaks but is currently being sorted and the wiring is a basket case. I have joined the Dutton owners club as I learned early on that owner’s clubs could be a goldmine of information and advice.

Having driven it for a week I got frustrated with the dash layout and the constant electrical niggles. The heater worked intermittently and the wipers and washers stopped working altogether.

The dash was easy to sort, I got some new marine plywood and used the old one to mark out the outline of the dash panel and then drilled it to suit where I need the switches and gauges for me to drive the car. Once all the bits were fitted to my liking I covered the dash with some cringe worthy ‘faux’ cowhide in black.
It looks not too shabby so will do for now. I will give it a rethink and do something different over the winter.

It goes off to my mate Anthony at Denton Auto Care next week to be measured for a new wiring loom. He’s going to draw it up with extra wiring for a fuel pump and stereo and a couple spare for a ciggy lighter and sat nav. I could get him to do the loom and wire the car but winter isn’t too far off and I can make it in the warmth of our front room. I like learning new things and to be fair it’s about time I could do wiring by myself. I’ve wired a couple of trikes on my own and the mental block I have needs sorting out.

When it goes on SORN at the end of September 08 the bodywork will be removed, the rust dealt with and the chassis painted. The chassis being the base of the car I think it needs refurbishing first. The engine and gearbox will get a bit of a tarting up at the same time. It will also be rewired and serviced. The new loom fitted and the bodywork replaced. The fuse box will be moved from next to the exhaust manifold and placed inside the tub. I can’t help but think the fuses won’t be liking all that heat.

I have new seats coming, as the ones in the car are old and worn out in the comfort department. I also have two sets of 4-point harnesses to fit and the roll over hoop needs improving and mounts for the harness making up.

What I hope to do over the next two years is drive the car in summer and refurbish it in the winter. I am saving for some new dampers and need to give the springs a good clean and paint while the car is on blocks while we repaint the chassis; I hope to have the work done in time to drive the car to the NABD rally in May 09.
That’ll be phase 1 of the refurbish, new wiring and the chassis cleaned, serviced and painted up. The roll bar and new seats fitted will see the end of the first part of the rebuild.

Winter 09 the carpet, the paint and bodywork will be redone along with some decent alloy floor plates to stop our heels going thru the carpet.

The only thing I can’t decide on is whether to restore the car as an original Dutton kit with the Ford engine or do I ditch the big screen, modify the shell and fit a ZX 10 engine and go hill climbing? Would the DOC membership ever talk to me if I start chopping a Dutton about?

Man I hate making difficult decisions. Most folk that know me if asked would say I’d go for the ZX 10 option but just occasionally I can be swayed by nostalgia.
If there’s a class to run a classic kit car in I may well stick with Mr. Ford’s cross flow jobbie.

Time will tell.

Gary
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« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2008, 10:37:59 AM »

wow theres a man with a plan!!!!
Dont you just hate that  Grin
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« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2008, 08:38:39 PM »

That'll keep you busy for a while Gary!

My neighbour (since moved to Oz) had a Merlin kit car - he did what you said, drove it in summer and fettled in winter - EVERY winter!  Even after his wife thought it was finished, he kept on thinking up new mods for it!
Just before leaving for Oz he put a 3-litre Rover lump in it - had to get it all done before going cos apparently the Oz govt doesn't look kindly on building kit cars, but if it's all done and registered here they are ok with it!
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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2008, 11:17:07 AM »

That's one GREAT CAR!

Of all the machines and classic cars I've ever owned one stands out head and shoulders above for grin factor: a 'fairly stock'  Wink '61 Triumph TR3B. The cutaway doors, low slung suspension, full rappy exhaust, quick positive handling and performance all added up to 100% excitement every single ride. Looks like your latest ride is every bit of that TR3 but slightly more modern! No doubt you now have something to get the blood pumping. The future plans sound really good too! Have fun!
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