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Title: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 14, 2010, 05:53:32 PM Wellllllllllllllllllllll, I've just spent a five hour round trip to buy this!!! :D :D :D :D
(http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day114Jan103.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day114Jan10.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day114Jan101.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day114Jan107.jpg) Thought I may as well start a thread on the build, although most of the build threads on here are showing how to do stuff, mine will be asking how to do it!!!!! Gonna spend the weekend, laying out the bits, making a plan of attack, and a list of things to do, and get!! (I've got a Tee shirt to paint....if it ever arrives!), then it's on with this! I think the last took 56 days, and there's 101 til the Monkey run......................we'll see!! :D Anyhow. lets start this off as it'll probably go on, with a question: There are three possible paint schemes for this, a quick straw poll would be good as to the most popular! Fire Engine red, with Gold leaf, and Black pinstriping Lairy (Sp?) Yellow Old School style hot rod-dy - Flat black, scallops, faded etc Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 14, 2010, 06:02:53 PM PS Anyone want to buy a VFR750, that I'm just NEVER going to finish now!!!
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Firery Fred on January 14, 2010, 07:42:48 PM Well I like it Clive,what's the motor? 8)
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 14, 2010, 07:46:24 PM Kawasaki z550, by all accounts!?!?! My last one had a z750, so hopefully I can remember some bits about it!
What's your choice on the paint then buddy! ??? Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: tbone on January 14, 2010, 08:22:40 PM Woohoo! what a lovely looking bike, same stance as i wanna do my honda if i ever get around to it.
Go with the red ;) Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: tony b on January 14, 2010, 10:06:00 PM good luck with the build clive ,i have ownes a gpz 550 for 5 years now and its never let me down,its quick enough for most rides out and handles great,although yours is just ever so slightly modded,lol,i also have a manual for this bike ,so if ya need any info ill do me best to scan the book and help whenever i can,
shabba. Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on January 14, 2010, 10:06:37 PM I vote for red with gold leaf too.
Looks like a good buy Clive -& you got a tin of biccies thrown in too. ;D Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on January 14, 2010, 10:07:39 PM You may be on the road for the MonkeyNuts Run, but somehow I can't see us having anything finished in time. :(
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 14, 2010, 10:27:36 PM good luck with the build clive ,i have ownes a gpz 550 for 5 years now and its never let me down,its quick enough for most rides out and handles great,although yours is just ever so slightly modded,lol,i also have a manual for this bike ,so if ya need any info ill do me best to scan the book and help whenever i can, shabba. Your my new best friend!!!!!!!! :D Seriously, you'll be sick of me by.......about the end of next week I reckon!! I've just ordered a Haynes, but already have questions!!!! you got a tin of biccies thrown in too. ;D Just nuts I'm afraid.....and bolts!!! :D Don't think the gold leaf will be as intricate as that, but that kind of thing! You surprised me, I thought you'd have gone for the lowbrow, old school flat Black!!! Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on January 14, 2010, 10:52:39 PM You think I'm a low brow Monkey? I'm hurt. :(
I appreciate a quality job. I also happen to love those old 70s Bay Area lowriders. Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 14, 2010, 11:01:29 PM Low Brow, never!!!! Just thought that was your preferred paint style!! ::)
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on January 14, 2010, 11:30:53 PM Check my builds -the Pop may be gloss black, but my bikes & trikes have always been bright 'n' lairy. 8)
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: bitzman5 on January 16, 2010, 12:01:24 AM Go with the RED
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 16, 2010, 07:44:27 PM Todays progress (albeit de-construction!)
(http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day31.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day3.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day33.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day32.jpg) Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on January 16, 2010, 08:52:52 PM That's going to be a nice little project Clive.
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: tbone on January 16, 2010, 09:00:01 PM Next job....cut that huge seat off and replace it with a smaller solo one ;)
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on January 16, 2010, 09:02:29 PM But where will Mrs Clive park her botty?
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 16, 2010, 09:05:41 PM I can answer both those posts with the same answer!!!
That's the plan!!!!! :D I would've taken the seat off already, but I can't shift the (now rounded inside) Allen bolt that holds the front on!! Tomorrow will begin with a thank you to the god of power tools!!!!! :D Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: spanners on January 16, 2010, 09:09:56 PM i just have a couple of wishes =
=one youre ,new, kit of parts =two youre ,,get up and go,, :D :D :D Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 16, 2010, 09:36:13 PM I'd gladly swap the second for your ability, and knowledge!!!!
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: spanners on January 16, 2010, 09:40:08 PM mm i,m just so knackered these days that the knowledge is about useless because the ability is becoming restricted :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 17, 2010, 10:18:07 PM Next job....cut that huge seat off and replace it with a smaller solo one ;) Finally got the seat off, cleaned up, cut down to a single seat now! Just waiting to weld another nut onto the top for fixing (as I had to angle grind the last one off to get the seat off), before gluing the newly cut foam on, and then finding somewhere to re-cover it for me!!!! That was all I achieved today! :( Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on January 17, 2010, 10:39:07 PM There's a couple of upholsterers in the Links for Commercial Purposes bit of the forum if it's any help Clive.
So what's the seat look like now? Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 18, 2010, 07:18:29 AM Smaller!! :D
Will post a pic later on! Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 19, 2010, 06:36:14 PM So what's the seat look like now? Like this! (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day52.jpg) If I had the materials, and skills, I would have re-made the seat pan, but I don't so I am going to re-cycle the old one! Just waiting to re-weld a nut onto the mounting hole where I had to grind the old one off and then the two layers of sponge ('cos I'm not as young as I used to be :D) will get glued on! I've found a mate with an industrial sewing machine, whose going to give the cover a go. If it's crap then I'll get one made, but I reckon he'll do a decent job!! In addition, I've managed to paint the inside (?!?!?!) of the headlight! (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day5.jpg) And started to strip the black paint from what's left on the frame and forks! The forks haven't come off yet, as I'm still waiting for my 17mm hex to arrive! As you can see, the forks are mega-rusty, is getting them re-chromed a good option, or sourcing a new pair more economical? (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day51.jpg) You may have noticed that I've given the engine a damn good ignoring so far, but that's because a very nice man from Somerset has donated me another engine that definitely works in exchange for some paintwork!! :D Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 19, 2010, 09:23:06 PM Meant to also say, I'm looking for a 'mustang' / sportster style tank for it!! If any of you have any ideas of bikes with that style tank, that you know of, or owned in the past then feel free to let me know! I know the '08 YBR125 has a tank like that!!
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: tbone on January 19, 2010, 10:16:54 PM Why? tank looks good as is
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 19, 2010, 10:38:59 PM I just think one in this style will be more fitting!!!
Obviously, once one has been found, and I've made sure it's 'the one!' :D, then the one I have at the moment will be up for grabs if anyone's interested!! Clive PS Anyone any idea what bike this is off, and whether the badges can be removed without damaging the integrity of the tank? Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on January 19, 2010, 10:40:44 PM Give Dracken a try -his link's in the Links page of the main website, (JW Motorcycles). He stocks a wide range of replacement fork tubes -& gives a discount to MMMotors forum members. ;)
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 19, 2010, 10:48:54 PM Cheers buddy, will do!
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: tony b on January 20, 2010, 11:19:51 AM its off a suzuki mate ,the badges just screw off ,you will have fo fill the holes under them .
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 20, 2010, 11:52:36 AM its off a suzuki mate REALLY!!!!!! ;D ;D ::) ;D ;D Kind of meant what model Suzuki!! Thanks for the bit about the badges though! Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: toad on January 21, 2010, 07:36:27 PM clive i reckon that could possibly be a gn250/400 might have a cap to fit gimme a day to track it down ;)
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 21, 2010, 08:24:10 PM Someone else has said a GN400 too!! Will wait out!!!
Next question. Any top tips for getting the stupid allen-y type bolts out of the brake discs? And before someone (Tony :D) says use an allen key thing, I've bent two of them trying, and still not a smidge of movement!!!! Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: hunter on January 21, 2010, 09:20:21 PM impact driver.is the only answer when they are that tight.
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: tony b on January 21, 2010, 09:21:23 PM use an alan key ,the type that go into a ten mill socket,you can then use a strong arm extention and crack the bolt that way mate ,,,,,,,,,see im not always useless,lol,try to heat it up aswell mate
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on January 24, 2010, 03:53:43 PM Thanks buddy, I'll give that a try, as soon as I can lift my head off the pillow for ten minutes! Got Man-flu, and it's really knocked me for six!!!!!! (Must be getting old :-\)
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 02, 2010, 10:27:40 AM Right, am finally feeling better!!!!! ;D ;D
So I now have some serious catching up to do on my timescale for this project!! (After finishing Valleysboy's tee shirt!! :D) A visit to Toad produced the forks I'm after (and some other bits, cheers buddy!!), and I now have a complete second engine in the garage (which is unfortunately in complete kit form, I mean Haynes manual style!) which will take some of my time up I'm sure, seeing as I've NEVER built one before!! Dropped the frame off to be sandblasted today, and intend to make a big dent in the work this weekend!!! Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 05, 2010, 07:54:51 PM Got the frame back from blasting today!
(http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day22.jpg) And I have to somehow get ALL this (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day222.jpg) into this (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day223.jpg) ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on February 05, 2010, 08:11:03 PM What's happened to the Sportster tank the bike came with Clive?
Nice clean engine -blasted or painted? Just shovel the bits into it. It'll be fine. ;D Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 05, 2010, 08:28:49 PM That's how to do it isn't it! Shove them in, fire it up, and they'll all sort themselves out into order!! Kind of hope so as that's what I was planning to do!!! :D :D :D
The engine was pretty clean when I got it, but it's got a coat of VHT aluminium paint on now, the same as my last chop. Just think the black engines that kawasaki did always look grotty! As for the tank, it's now got a 'mustang' style one to go on (Thanks to Mr Toad :)). The sportster one is going begging if you, or anyone else wants it? It's got quite a 'classic' paint job on it, the cap has been painted over the rust, but has the tap too!! Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on February 05, 2010, 10:17:37 PM I love the Sportster tank shape -perfect chop style I reckons.
Haven't got a project to fit it at the moment, but interested if it's cheap! Wouldn't it be ideal to display your painting skills on at the Basingstoke Transport Festival? Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 05, 2010, 10:27:17 PM As posted elsewhere, I think I'll loaf around the MMM stand, instead of taking a stand myself ( not 100% certain yet though!)!
Cheap! How about payment in advance for some help maybe in the future!!! Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on February 05, 2010, 10:50:18 PM Can't see I could ever be of help! Swap it for your merchandise order?
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 06, 2010, 08:17:39 AM Sold to the man with bits of Jaffa cake in his teeth!!
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 06, 2010, 05:37:51 PM Todays progress:
Tank stripped (eventually!!!!), filled, and primed (Almost, I ran out of primer!?!?!?!) Front Wheel stripped and primed! Angle grinder taken to the frame! Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on February 06, 2010, 07:28:09 PM Thanks Clive. Will collect it from you at the Basingstoke show if that's O.K
Coo, Jaffa Cakes. I haven't had one in ages. Fancy one now. So what have you done to your frame then? Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 06, 2010, 08:45:23 PM Nothing too drastic, just ground off the rear foot peg mounts, and a couple of spurious leftover bits from the original frame!
(http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day241.jpg) Oh, and managed to start a helmet, just to keep my hand in at the old painting malarky!! As an aside, after seeing the pic of JJ you posted, I'm feeling more and more drawn to building/buying a reliant trike!!!!!!! :D :D If we bump into each other at the Picket Piece show, you can have the tank then! Or pop in on your way, and get it then! Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on February 06, 2010, 11:29:46 PM JJ's was built by a guy called Mick in Kent. He also built the Honda trike Muffin's missus, Michelle's just bought. He just keeps churning them out! Only met him once, but his preferred style seems to be streamlined & panelled in -an ideal canvas for your paint skills?
You cannot resist the call of the mighty Reliant! Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 07, 2010, 04:40:55 PM Today, I have:
Primed the tank (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day243.jpg) Painted the front wheel (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day244.jpg) Started to build the engine/gearbox!!! :o Had to stop at this point, as had no jointing compound >:( Quite pleased with myself for getting this far with it!! (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day242.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day24.jpg) Oh, and finished painting the helmet! Just to prove that painting doesn't need to involve airbrushes, and all sorts of fancy stuff, this was completely done with masking tape, and halfords rattle cans!! Not worried about the shiny finish, as when it's completely dry it's getting flatted, and then a Matt finish clear applied! (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Day245.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Day246.jpg) Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: panthershaun on February 08, 2010, 10:32:47 AM cracking helmet job mate 8) 8)
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on February 14, 2010, 04:57:55 PM Got some more done while waiting for the CJ to arrive!! :D
Front Wheel finished (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day314.jpg) Tank with first layer of paint on (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day31-1.jpg) Same as the frame (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day315.jpg) Engine done (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day311.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day313.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day312.jpg) and a general shot of the garage for the heck of it (after the CJ arrived!!) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/Day31wksp.jpg) Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: gazzagood on February 14, 2010, 05:32:49 PM nice job mate. ;D super work shop sorry (garage) well when the other project arrives it will be work shop..just hope you've told (Mrs Clive) about your new project ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on February 14, 2010, 10:43:38 PM I've never seen a garage that clean before! Nice chop frame Clive.
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: BikerGran on February 15, 2010, 03:53:49 PM It's just the size of it Andy - all the stuff doesn't look so untidy cos it's not piled up! ;)
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on April 12, 2010, 07:18:22 PM So, back to working on this!! :D :D
Finished the frame with another coat of yellow. Then decided to change the colour scheme slightly. The wheels now gold, and the forks look like this (well, ones done!), (pearlescent white, gold, bronze, and yellow!!) prior to clearcoat. (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/PICT0020.jpg) and the tank has it's artwork started (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/PICT0021.jpg) (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac360/533clive/Chopper%20Build/PICT0022.jpg) Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Manky Monkey on April 13, 2010, 08:41:22 PM I do like a nice trad' flamejob.
Your painted fork legs are unusual -makes you wonder why no-one else really does it. Worked out well on the cafe racer. Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: bitzman5 on April 13, 2010, 11:40:55 PM Hi Clive what paint did you use on the engine
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on April 14, 2010, 07:21:25 AM It's Halfords VHT Aluminium paint buddy!
MM, yeah, I don't know why more people don't paint them either!?! Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: thebigdogsix on April 15, 2010, 07:30:41 PM It's Halfords VHT Aluminium paint buddy! MM, yeah, I don't know why more people don't paint them either!?! Clive Would this stuff work/be suitable on brake calipers? Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on April 15, 2010, 07:39:51 PM Don't see why not!
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on April 19, 2010, 12:48:54 PM Funny how things change quickly isn't it!!!
This now has no chance of being finished by me, and so is now up for sale!!! It comes in completely kit form!! Although I think (apart from wiring) is 95% there ready to be finished and re-assembled. It'll come with the one engine complete, and a second in bits. A set of carbs for each engine. Three shelves of bits. Two front wheels, one in black, one in gold. Rear wheel un-painted. Both tyres (one front, one rear) are almost new. Two front yolks, new horns, new fork seals (still in their packet), nice shaped tank, partially painted by me! The only bits I don't have to hand right now are the seat (being re-covered), and one of the exhaust down tubes, but these can be collected by me and sent on to the buyer! The V5 is in my name, and it's SORN (for obvious reasons!) Sad to see it go not completed, but means must etc etc. I looks like I may have to sell the Vespa as well!! :-\ Anyone interested, then please give me a shout, either through PM, or on my mobile 07950 569620. PS Mr Toad sir, don't worry about getting the other wheel to me now, sorry!! Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: voodoo on April 19, 2010, 02:50:32 PM Dont sound good mate?....Well got to ask....how much you after for it?....Voodoo...
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on April 19, 2010, 03:05:43 PM To someone on here.........as close to £500 as I can get!!
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on April 21, 2010, 12:18:32 PM Going onto Ebay........unfortunately, £400 to someone on here! (Theres probably more than that in just the frame, engine(s) and tyres!!)
Clive Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: voodoo on April 21, 2010, 04:30:53 PM Sent you a message mate....Voodoo...
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on April 21, 2010, 08:19:46 PM Replied!!
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: Clive on April 24, 2010, 04:01:32 PM SOLD!!! (sorry Voodoo buddy!!)
Title: Re: Clive's Chopper Build Post by: voodoo on April 24, 2010, 06:49:24 PM No worries..main thing is it sold for you.....Voodoo...
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