Manky Monkey Motors

well if things ever ,buck up,, around here i,ll get back to my garage rebuild / new workshop project

lots to think about / consider like,,,

pit or no pit (cost is enormous and cant go high enough for a lift/ramp)

space is tight == base area =15ft x 34ft approx

budget  ,,ha,ha,ha,,  little as possible  ;)

roof - pent or pitched,


IDEA,S please

ps . i,v had a couple of varius  ideas quoted for ==== bloody expensive ,,

thats not that small...on second thought we've seen the size of some of the things you'll be working at  :)

how high can you go? could you go for a scissor lift type thing which sinks into the floor,any hight is better than working on the floor. i have heard a pit increase's your rates by a lot.

roof's personal preference but pitched would be mine,although my sheds got a wagon roof and fits well in a rural setting also gives a bit more head room at the edges

mine cost around 10 grand to build but i bought s/h tin and steel work but paid someone to do everything except the wiring which Alan and I did over a couple of weekends.it took me 5 years to save for that bloddy shed and now i only reluctantly go in it :(

You pay higher council tax if you've got an inspection pit?

we call it rates but yes i was told the charge would be higher if i had a pit althought that may vary on the main land

Didn't know that.

well the quote for the garge base is around £2k  :o cheaper without the pit  ::)

talk about pouring money into the ground  ::) ::)

I remember seeing fibreglass inspection pits at a show somewhere. A bit like a pond moulding, with steps cast in & pre-wired lights. Just dig a hole & drop the moulding into it.

looked at them and also the steel ones built to VOSA specs == even more expensive  they have cross braces in them , you dig an oversize hole cement blind the base the wacker it,, then drop the pit box in then weight it down ,(fill with water or other heavy objects) pour concrete around the outside ,, leave to set,, then remove the cross braces, all in all bl##dy expensive , due to the price and the labour cost/time involved.

VOSA type pit on ebay item number 251382262700

Coo, 1,600 quid!

= delivery +labour+digger hire+concrete to go around it == somewhere in the region of £2300.

I paid 600 quid for a second hand 2 post lift. One of the local garages has one fitted outside, (limitless headroom!). No room to do that?

nope not really enough room and by rights youre supposed to have planning permission to have a vehicle lift or ramp outdoors,, :o :o

Commercial repair garage, so I'm sure they'll have permission. I'm all out of suggestions then mate.

something like this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vehicle-scissor-lift-/171188753428?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item27dba51414 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vehicle-scissor-lift-/171188753428?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item27dba51414)

thats an idea thats looking promising ,,

might go for something similar myself,when i raise some cash

well with that idea i can get the workshop built then get a scissor lift at a later date   ;)

or this.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vehicle-scissor-lift/360804633303?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D74%26meid%3D3169712895169525323%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D171188753428%26

got that one on ,watch, but the distance would make it expensive,,why is it when i spot something on ebay its allways at the other end of the country  ::) ::)

think how i feel stuck in NI when all the bargans are over on the main land  :(

keep an eye out for tipping trailer  rams and  a hydraulic pump thick walled box sect  and make your own lift sink it in the floor before you concrette it  job done

pump,,valve block,, and a couple of rams here allready  ;) ;)

almost sorted then

is it done yet?

lol!!!

think mike is trying to find his caravan.

havnt found it yet  can,t get in contact with anyone on or near the site the phones are out ,, got to go and look tommorrow  :'( :'(

s**t, hope its ok. not nice,
on way home from work this morning they were pumping peoples houses out, not nice at all.

site of new workshop ,,old one,s gonna have to come down :o
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but i,m struggling to find temp storage for the contents,
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and the duttons are still hangin around takin space up
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Flippen elk Mike, what have you got in there, that's not going to fit under the stares  ;D

its just a few bits n, bobs  ;)

that truly is a shed of many things....could you build the new one over this one then dismantle it when it's finished?

that was plan number 1 but,,, not enough room to build down the side , and to get the best price on ready mix the base has to be done in one go 15ft x34ft--ish, ;)

when i did mine the floor was the last thing they did but you are quite close to the adjoining building

Had a bad experience with a pit. Everyone was asleep so I used to turn my headlight off as I dropped down the drive. The road was high up and the light would shine right in the windows of the bedrooms. Yep, you've guessed it. Someone took the planks out of the pit cover (me) In the dark I missed the pit and parked the bike and as I put my foot down, there was the pit! In I went, followed by a bloody heavy Triton, upside down. Broken foot, a very strange gash in my leg and a ruined alloy tank. It was like the world came to an end, pitch black laying in a pit pinned down by a fuel leaking bike and I was desperate for a fag!!  The old man came out and after all the laughing and pi** taking he hauled me out and chain blocked the bike out while I attended hospital. Bloody pit.

Lucky it didn't kill you!

builder starts tommorrow , laying out the shuttering ready ,mr concrete truck,


spent the last 48hrs trying to re-house the garage contents  ::) ::) ::) were leaving a section of garage up to use as a storage shed .

and were putting in provision for a pit to be dug at a later date,, ;)


so really this is just ,,phase,, 1,,

you won't know yourself when it's done,it will be worth the hassle

but it will never be big enough  ::) ::)


,phase 1, is only 14ft 6 inch by 24ft  ;)

yep, your right Mike, it will never be big enough ::) ::)

makes mine look tidy!!!

and mine looks like a bomb has dropped!!! lol

Always remember what car you have when you decide to do a service over a pit, our coach painter Dennis forgot one dinner time at work and drove his Reliant Robin over/down by going front wheel first. A very red faced Dennis appeared round the canteen door asking for a lift but would'nt tell us why until we saw it, it was at about 45 degrees, the tapered body had jammed on the pit edges, we did'nt let him forget about it for a long time.

had a long ,busy, day today  most of site cleade , garage now ==a shed ,,cut it in half and shortened /refitted the end ,, loads n, loads more stuff re-homed some even got as far as the house  ;) ;) )
fence etc gone to improve access,,

sorry ,merv,, but no pictures   as it was dark when we packed up for the day ..

what type of construction did you decide on Mike ?

concrete base ,blockwork walls, plyboard n, felt roof, (this leaves the option to put tin sheets on top of the felt at a later date ) ;)

looking for 2 or 4 ,RSJ,s about 6x4 inch section and 12ft long  now..

site cleared
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and marked out
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now the bloody weathers started to turn bad ,,, got storm force winds tonight  ::)

Think we all have!

well all the shuttering is in place and the levels are set just about ready for mr ,readymix,,but,, the sh1te weather may mean a delay  :o :o

so if the weather isnt good tommorrow then mr readymix may have to come on saturday

sorry ,merv,, no piccie,s,, tonight  :D

you let down merchant  ;D

just wait and keep youre hair on,, ;) ;D ;D ;D

so as it happens,, today and tommorrow was forecast as the best as regards weather that we are likely to see for the next week or so


so ,mr ready mix ( lafarge) was called this morning to order the delivery ,,,,the price had gone up  :o :o so they were promtly ,sacked,, ::)

and more phone calls made,,
which resulted in ,mr batchmix, all the way from doncaster giving the best price (£140 cheaper than lafarge inc delivery over 20 miles)

they said they could send it in a small truck and maybe do two runs  as access is very,,very,, tight down a ten foot entry with a r/h bend partway down
which now measures 9 foot due to a leaning wall that no one dare go near  :o :o and a thick privet/hawthorne hedge and a tree.

so guess what turned up  ::) ::) a 6 wheeler

the driver was a ,diamond ,geezer,, after struggling at the first attemp he reversed all the way down and round
oldmetalhead, on here knows how tight it is  ;) ;)

shuttering going in
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overview from the crows nest  :D :D
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mr batchmix , backed in,
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sorry ,merv, but the pictures of us struggling to get the mixer truck in got deleted  ::) ::) ::)
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and at close of play today around 6pm we had this,, :) :)
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Looking good!  Gotta admire those drivers!

What are you going to do with the 'hole' till you sort the pit?

oh,, thats not the pit,,, thats where i,m going when i pop me clogs  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

That's looking good Mike, I bet your feeling a lot happier, another step nearer

yep,, but my wallets getting lighter  ::)

we had a tremendus storm and high winds last night and i was so worried about the concrete getting spoilt i was up at 3am checking and making things safe,,
luckily we had the vital area sort of covered and the fence,, strategictly placed vehicles, and the old shortened garage kept 99.5% of the weather off

thank god  ::)

so by lunvh time today it was set enough to ,gently,, walk on
going to leave it a couple of days then organise the block work which there maybe a  chance of getting done between christmas and new years eve,,

now, i need to find some RSJ,s to go above the doors  ::)

and some steel (preferably box section) to make the doors out of  and of course it needs to be at the right price  ;)

better photo of the base now the concrete is set
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You missed a bit. ;D

,,,JOB STOPPED,, we didnt get the block delivery this morning as we should have done >:( >:( ==== no more deliverys till 2nd of january ::)

but the brickie,s are due to start another job on 2nd of jan,,,

Deep breaths and relax Mike.
Try to enjoy Christmas and the New Year.

yeah,, but i,v got to be ,nice, to nine people christmas day  ::)

and all my garage ,goodie,s,, are stored in box,s and under tarpualins in the garden and stacked in the old touring caravan and i aint got a garage to escape into  :o

Start digging yourself a Christmas proof bunker where the pit should be.

Any space left in the shed to hide in?

just caught up with the thread Mike, as you say good driver to reverse that around that lane, especially that bend !

may be for the best given the weather thats forecast for the next few days

Looking good Mike. Can't wait to see the walls going up.

if they ever go up,,,==builders are sh1te,,.  small scale to what you saw at ,,wonderland,, ::)

block work started but stopped again,, ::) ::)

but the delivery truck bringing the sand ,,cement,,and 510 blocks couldnt get round where the six wheeler mixer truck had been so we /I had to ferry the materials round from the front of the house
with whatever was available ,  ;)
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and
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we acctually had two bags of sand and two packs of blocks on my f350 at once and she didnt even flinch  ;)

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bad weather n, slow bricky, has stopped progress  ,nothing at all achieved today,,got to see what happens in the next few days

blockwork is continuing  but a little slowly and yep i forgot the camera before it went dark  ::)

You have a wall - whoo hooo, it's getting there

and its growing  ;)
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Its getting there, what is going to happen to the old shed that is in the picture, is that going to be part of it

oohhh, you mean the ,top secret,, labuoratry,,, ;)


builder phoned at 8.45 am this morning and cried of due to heavy rain  ::) ::) we havnt had a spot all day  >:( >:(

latest.
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the bit on the right is nothin to do with me ,,
its my neighbours garage  ::) he decided to cut the end of to alter it ,, or so the story go,s and its been left like that for over 7 years  ::) ::)

comming along nicely those piers look very strong and a good mounting for a bench

lifting beams to be put in at a later date  ;)

basic ,roofing materials ordered and payed for  :o :o :o  £1170,74p ..pocket money is getting low  :'( :'(

maybe one or two extra,s but i hope not,,,,,

soon adds up,i remember thinking i had plenty of money til i was about half way through then i realized maybe not! going to try a get a patio done this year to keep Lesley happy as i seem to spend all the money  ;D

Nice job spanners my garage is about as big as one one of your tool cubords will be!

the old wooden garage bit at the back will eventually be refurbished as a tool cupboard  ;) and stores ,

first truss.
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todays progress.
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When can I move in Mike?

i,ll add you to the ,lodgers, list  ;)

Topping out ceremony needed now :)

your on the home stretch now not be long til you'll bangen' away again

your getting there mike, is there enough room to get inbetween to put guttering etc up?

if you stand on the fence  ::) ::) :D :D :D

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gees Emily sure looks small compared to that f150 or what ever it is,sheds looking good by the way

1988 f350 with just over 6500,miles on the clock ,,genuine,,

and yep ,EMILY, is small ,,i,m starting to struggle to get in and driving her these days ,,

bit more progress today half the roof treated n, felted  but weather is slowing things down/making it harder to apply the adesive coating

sorry ,merv,, no pics,  ::)

the f350's nice but Emily's small and perfectly formed  :)

both for sale  ;)

but ,,EMILY, is actually ,,priceless,, it would take a mega amount of £,s being offered to get me to actually part with her

i was feeling very low/depressed  :( :( yesterday  but i fired ,EMILY, up and she made me feel a little better  :) :)

garage/workshop is progressing slowly but i,ll get ther, eventually ,temporey door/boarded up so secure and almost fully weather tight now

so today/this evening i,v been painting the wall white
i,ll try and remember the camera tommorrow  ::) ::)

pictures  :)
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and one of the outside light i,m restoring to go on the gable end ,, it came out of a skip,, it used to be on the corner of the village school that both my father and i attended its thought to be around 70yrs old they certainly dont make em as good these days .
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That's looking good mike, soon be moving in  :)

Attic bedroom.

priest hole / sanctuary  ;) ;)

I have garage envy!

lol, you may have garage ,envy,, but you wouldn,t ,,envy,, the cost  ::) ::) its cost nearly double what i intended/wanted to spend , but its here for the rest off my life atleast ,,,

latest photo,s.
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i,v been told it looks like a ,church ,, :D
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look's bloddy tidy,makes mine look shoddy and paint will keep the dust down

it looks great mike.

Then it's a fitting place of worship, for the all powerful god, Mo-Tor !
When's the bell tower going on ?  :D

Looks a lot smarter than my house!  Can we move in?
 ;)

you could put a bell tower on it  call it a place of worship and not pay council tax