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« Reply #7905 on: January 20, 2015, 08:52:11 AM »

Chris , long time since I uprated a Rover pump, does it just bolt together ? Reason I ask is Antons has the same style front cover and we had to drill and pin it as part of the process.
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« Reply #7906 on: January 20, 2015, 04:37:21 PM »

Yeh Kev, the gears are longer (1/4 to 3/8 of an inch) and the spacer is that thickness. The spacer is fitted (with a gasket either side) between the front cover (pump housing) and the oil filter housing, with the loner bolts in the kit.
When the SD1 came out, effectively this modification was made at the factory. The front cover had 1/4 to 3/8 inch deeper oil pump body and the longer gears. I'm only saying this because, is not the engine an SD1? and the front cover looks like a P6? Long before Real Steel were doing these, Kenne Bell (olds, buick tuning specialists) were selling them for the 215 GM version. Can't say that Rover would have done this if there was going to be no advantage.
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« Reply #7907 on: January 20, 2015, 06:31:13 PM »

Hi Chris.
The new engine's a Discovery one, (the engine number's a bit confusing cos it seems to crop up twice in Rimmer Brothers' list, but I think it's mid to late 90s). I fitted the front cover, (timing chain, water pump etc), from the old SD1 engine to keep the hoses in the same places.
So that means it'll have the longer SD1 gears doesn't it?

I couldn't open the Real Steel PDF but have been PM'd a copy of it. I see they sell the oil priming tool you mentioned to me a while ago. I've got a feeling mine's the opposite of your Chevy one so will check & buy one from them if needed.
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« Reply #7908 on: January 20, 2015, 06:32:43 PM »

Just a short visit to the workshop today cos it was bitterly cold & Mr Loon was about ready to go home.
New bright zinc engine mount bolts fitted.
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« Reply #7909 on: January 20, 2015, 06:36:46 PM »

I remember looking and querying it at the time now ,it's an SD1 front cover with longer gears as standard and a p6 front pulley and Pop Brown 'kit car' waterpump.
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« Reply #7910 on: January 20, 2015, 06:39:56 PM »

Didn't know it was a non standard water pump. So we're good then?
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« Reply #7911 on: January 20, 2015, 07:46:18 PM »

Standard pump for SD1 which equates to P6 version with longer gears fitted ie upgrade carried out at factory. rRev limit on P6 was 5200 and SD1 6000 so probably would run out of volume on original P6 cover.
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« Reply #7912 on: January 20, 2015, 08:58:02 PM »

So-o-o  ...we're good then?
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« Reply #7913 on: January 20, 2015, 09:05:45 PM »

Oil pump cover needs taking off  and filling to the max with Vaseline , otherwise good to go. hav eyou thought of writing a blog of sorts so you can check back on what stuff you've used or done ? ...oh wait...
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« Reply #7914 on: January 20, 2015, 09:12:31 PM »

 Grin I don't need a memory -I've got a team of specially trained Monkeys to do that for me.
All lubed up when I put the housing back on the other day. Also fitted the pump housing gasket that was missing.
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« Reply #7915 on: January 21, 2015, 07:45:27 AM »

hav eyou thought of writing a blog of sorts so you can check back on what stuff you've used or done ?
I find it handy to have a notes board. When fitting bits together over a period of time it's easy to forget that, you haven't actually torqued down bolts, filled with oil or set clearances etc.
Omitting to refit the pushrods makes an engine very difficult to start  Embarrassed
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« Reply #7916 on: January 21, 2015, 05:18:17 PM »

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« Reply #7917 on: January 23, 2015, 09:09:32 PM »

Carb dried out, (rain water in the front float chamber after a torrential hailstorm blew the tarpaulin off last week), blown through with an airline & re-fitted.
My day off today but had some errands to do this morning, delivering a fuel tank to Mr Oily Bike, (nice to see you again Tony), & collecting & delivering parts for Chris's Chevy pick-up, so didn't get long at the workshop before it got too damn cold to work outside. Need to put a second coat of paint on all the chassis parts I missed the first time round then flat it back, but too cold for that too. Hopefully it'll be warmer over the weekend.
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« Reply #7918 on: January 24, 2015, 07:51:03 PM »

Open toed trainers, ready for the Summer.
Treated myself to a new pair of workshop safety shoes, so cut the steel toe caps out of the old ones before I binned them. Well, you never know, they might come in handy for something. I don't know what colour I was expecting the steels to be, but definitely wasn't expecting bright blue.
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« Reply #7919 on: January 24, 2015, 07:55:17 PM »

my last work boots had blue steels in!!!
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